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I think it's wonderful you feel as if you found a great clinic. That is the key...to all of this.

If you are comfortable with the care you are getting then you can release so much of the stress. But why accuse others of making false statements ? I believe we were sharing our experiences. What did you want to accomplish by those accusations ?

Each person has their own experience and opinion. This is an infertility support board, where we should be able to post our concerns.

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Funny How I picked tonight to come check the board and see THIS....

Leelee- You have SOME nerve talking the way you did on this topic. Really...some Nerve to talk down to us about our PERSONAL experiences.

DID you bother to stick around here long enough to read ALL the women's posts? Many of us, myself INCLUDED still go to RSONY and No one, not ONE person put anyone else down or told them they made a bad decision by going there or staying there...so Your WAY off base with the "slander" talk.

Also- you want US to consider their feelings? What about you? Ever hear of TACT?

There obviously is a big group of us who went or go to RSONY and many of us are less then thrilled with their performance, their STATISTICS etc , especially those who have gone elsewhere...

Your opinion would have been likely much appreciated, and calmed the nerves of some questioning RSONY until you came on here with an accusing tone as if we were children that needed to be taught something....

Besides your tone in your post, I think your truths are fabricated to begin with....I hope Im wrong, and I don't like to call anyone a liar, but I do find it very very hard to believe that you have seen crying nurses, and that Dr. Saketos since she's sooo busy found the time to come visit you in the hospital everyday and called you from her home.
I think that would be beyond incredible if true considering the nature of their practice and the ENORMITY of the practice. So if you are not a personal friend or affiliate I would count yourself as one of the lucky few who seem to be getting such great care there.....

And since they are so great to you, why not offer to HELP US struggling with them by maybe finding out why our experiences are so different from yours. Any advice on how we can get them to remember ours names after the 12th visit , like they do yours? Or to call us from home, like they do you? Or cry over our success /failures as you have seen.

THATS something I would like to hear!

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Lisa (leelee) I am offended for the women who post on this board. I think you have some nerve coming in here and posting the way you did.
I have been next to these ladies for months (and some for years) as we stuggled through IF together. HOW DARE YOU come in here and tell someone, who is sharing their experiences, their thoughts and their opionions, (never stating "FACTS") that they are going to get sued (plus I dont think theycan be sued beause there is no obvious "intent). You sure do take all this personal for someone who just happens to be a patient. Next time you come steamrolling into a chat board please think before you type.


To the ladies on this board, if for ANY reason you no longer like your doctor you dont agree with protocol, personality conflict, wait time, lack of tests ect) then find a health care provider that you do like. For the amount of money that we pay you have the right to change and you should NOT be made to feel guilty about it.

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Donna and Deb..... WELL SAID!!!!!

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I do receive exceptional care there. Maybe I am nice to them. I waited at a clinic that you all are speaking about and didnt care for the staff but I am not on a website talking about them.
Where are the statistics that you are speaking of?
All I am saying is this;
If you are not happy with them and what they are doing then leave there, but to come on here and mention the name of the clinic and the specific doctor makes those of us who are going there lose some of the faith that it takes a long time for us to find.
I too have been from hell & back with all this ****, but I am sorry, you are all wrong by mentioning their names.
& for the lady who posted about Dr. Saketos calling me from home, you doubt that, well it is true & I hope you are never in the position that she would need to call you from home.
Best of luck to all.

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Compare the results of "pregnancies resulting in live births" for yourself. This is not our opinion this is fact provided by the CDC.

IVF statistics

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And another thing. This is our support group. We share our experiences good AND bad. Why should we have to learn for ourselves when we can pick up things from others. We share here, all of our experiences (girls-remember the PBDP?). Education is our best weapon and we learn from each other and RESPECT each other.

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I am so impressed by the responses to LeeLee's post. The women on this board have such strength, and conviction. Pauline, you are absolutely right, the statistics speak for themselves. Donna, I think you bring up an excellent point, if LeeLee wanted to truly make those of us who were still questioning whether to continue with the facility….she could have used tact, and reassuring words. Deb, I couldn’t agree with you more, if there is anything that makes you feel you are not getting what you should from your healthcare provider….find ANOTHER.

I am shocked, at the idea, that our opinions should be kept to ourselves.

Very often, when I plan a vacation, I look to TripAdvisors, for help. There are reviews written by other vacationers and I use them to help plan my vacation.

I planned a beautiful wedding because of the help of the women that post on LIW. There were always reviews of vendors. Those reviews, helped me select the vendors that were wonderful to work with.

Why on earth, wouldn't I have the same approach deciding on good healthcare???

Message edited 12/21/2005 11:51:40 PM.

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Very well said ladies...

On another note...does this mean that if we receive particularly good care from a Dr. that we are not supposed to share that experience. We pay thousands of $ for these treatments and this board is truly a way that we can share our experiences so that we can make it easier for other women. I myslef have learned so much from all of you and have greatly appreciated your sharing your opinions. IF is not an easy thing for any of us to deal with and if we can help each other pick the most appropriate clinic to help us than why would we not take advantage of that.

I do believe that there is something called free speech in this country.

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This is honestly the first time on these boards that I have seen this kind of behavior from someone who has infertility issues. I don't post too much but when I do, I have always gotten so much support from all of you.

LeeLee, you should be ashamed of yourself for berating all of us. We are in the same infertility boat as you and as Donna mentioned your support is what we need, not your condescending attitude.

I'm glad to see all the positive posts in response to Leelee's post. We need that kind of positive support on a daily basis to get us through these difficult times we are all experiencing. Oh and I didn't know opinions were considered slanderous.


I guess I was a day late and a dollar short on my reply but I had to do it. BTW, I clicked on LeeLee's name and it says invalid user. Too bad, so sad. We'll miss you and your positive ways.

Message edited 12/22/2005 12:22:36 PM.

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LEELEE

come on defamation of character...relax. It's called an opinion we all have em...as do you...

Infertility is a very touchy subject with us all b/c we all know the heartache one another feels when we can't get pregnant. So honestly if I have a feeling about a practice or Dr and feel like sharing it with other women who go to the same practice then I will.

and come on what's with the caps? feel as though you'll get your point across better.

And you know what, its good for you that you were happy with them...some of us haven't and we appreciate your opinion, but to start talking about lawsuits and that crap...get a grip.

This is an infertility board and we will share our thoughts and feelings about different Dr's and clinics as we please.

and anyway I want to thank all of the women on this board who have given me piece of mind and have let me know about my options and next steps in this long process.

I'm done with this post

I realize my post is late but after reading that I was a little ****** lol

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I just popped on and read this and I have to say WOW...
First of all this LeeLee character, who no longer exists...what the hell was that?!

I really don't understand these people who come on here out of nowhere (and it's all over the site) post ridiculous, argumentative things and then disappear. Either you are a liar, rat or just plain nasty. Whatever it is, keep your ugliness to yourself. People have enough problems as it is without making lives more miserable. I am glad Leelee is gone, but dread who the next nasty poster may be.

To all of you who are trying to find someone you are happy with, I wish you lot's of luck. This is a very trying and emotional process and anything to make it better is like a Gift from God.

Good luck to everyone!

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I'm sorry that you ladies had to deal with this person. Good luck to you all

If this is the leelee I'm thinking of, shame on you for bashing on women who are already carrying a large emotional burden. This is THEIR support network and their place to vent their frustrations.

I hope you feel proud of your accomplishment

Message edited 12/28/2005 10:10:56 AM.