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LuckyStar
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Re: Preschool/Kindergarten Cutoff
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Thanks all. I understand a lot of parents hold back and if that's what's best for them, that's great. For us, we want her starting along with every other kid born in 2015. Maybe it's our city mentality (they don't allow red shirting). I'm January and was always the oldest (city) and was bored out of my mind.
If she's a year and a half younger than other kids, that's fine by me. The program should be designed for late 4/5 year olds- that's the age the teacher should be teaching to. It makes no difference if there are 6 year olds in there.
You can absolutely Red shirt in the city. My sister almost did. And yes there are a few districts that follow the calendar year but in reality any cut off is arbitrary. There will always be an oldest kid and a youngest. If your daycare is following then 12/1 district cut off looks like your choice is to move to one of the 12/31 areas.
Is the date stupid yes but such is life.
I know several people who have tried and failed to red shirt. I also have a friend who is a city kindergarten teacher and she has told me the city does not allow it.
We were always going to move, that was never a question. We just thought that we had more than a year to do it!
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Re: Preschool/Kindergarten Cutoff
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I know several people who have tried and failed to red shirt. I also have a friend who is a city kindergarten teacher and she has told me the city does not allow it.
We were always going to move, that was never a question. We just thought that we had more than a year to do it!
Nursery school/pre school honestly don't matter so if she is not placed in a 2, 3, or 4 program "on time" it's not a big deal. At my daycare, the nursery and preschool programs are pretty similar (letter and number identification, shape and color recognition, practicing fine motor skills - drawing lines, circles, using scissors, name writing practice).
I actually didn't even know that daycares did rooms like that. All the ones by me have infant 1 (up to 9 months), infant 2 (9 months - 18 months), toddler (18 months - 3 years), nursery school (3-4 years), preschool (4-5 years).
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Re: Preschool/Kindergarten Cutoff
Posted by LuckyStar
I know several people who have tried and failed to red shirt. I also have a friend who is a city kindergarten teacher and she has told me the city does not allow it.
We were always going to move, that was never a question. We just thought that we had more than a year to do it!
Not being snarky, but how does the city not allow it? A genuine question.
YOU have to register your child for school. The City isn't going to come knocking on your door saying "Hey! She needs to go to school!" I have cousins in PA where the cutoff date is August 31. She was shocked that I was "allowed" to hold my son back. I told her the school has no way of knowing whether or not he's signed up - it's my decision to hold him bc he needs the extra year. She had to hold her daughter bc she missed the cut off by 3 weeks.
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LuckyStar
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Preschool/Kindergarten Cutoff
They'll put the kid right into first grade. It goes by birth year. There was a times article about it a couple years ago, how it's become basically impossible.
The point you made though is whats most infuriating to me (not you, just the point!). Parents get all up in arms about not being able to hold their child back because it's THEIR child and THEY make the decisions. Well what about what I think is best for MY child who misses the cutoff by a week? I'm SOL. I don't get the option to do whatever I want. No exceptions for her. But a child 6 months out of the age bracket is fine. It's crazy to me.
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Re: Preschool/Kindergarten Cutoff
Posted by VickiC
Posted by LuckyStar
I know several people who have tried and failed to red shirt. I also have a friend who is a city kindergarten teacher and she has told me the city does not allow it.
We were always going to move, that was never a question. We just thought that we had more than a year to do it!
Not being snarky, but how does the city not allow it? A genuine question.
YOU have to register your child for school. The City isn't going to come knocking on your door saying "Hey! She needs to go to school!" I have cousins in PA where the cutoff date is August 31. She was shocked that I was "allowed" to hold my son back. I told her the school has no way of knowing whether or not he's signed up - it's my decision to hold him bc he needs the extra year. She had to hold her daughter bc she missed the cut off by 3 weeks.
But since Kindergarten isn't mandatory, they might put them straight into 1st grade.
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Re: Preschool/Kindergarten Cutoff
Posted by LuckyStar
They'll put the kid right into first grade. It goes by birth year. There was a times article about it a couple years ago, how it's become basically impossible.
The point you made though is whats most infuriating to me (not you, just the point!). Parents get all up in arms about not being able to hold their child back because it's THEIR child and THEY make the decisions. Well what about what I think is best for MY child who misses the cutoff by a week? I'm SOL. I don't get the option to do whatever I want. No exceptions for her. But a child 6 months out of the age bracket is fine. It's crazy to me.
I agree.
Rules are rules. The school district makes them for a reason. They should be stricter about them and stop this nonsense. Because at the end of the day it isn't fair.
It seems a lot of people in this world feel rules don't apply to them.
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Re: Preschool/Kindergarten Cutoff
I never had a problem with my December baby remaining with the kids born in the same year. I guess the preschools I sent DC to just didn't make an issue of it. When the time came for kindergarten DC was placed in a private kindergarten. In fact, when I compared the private school kindergarten curriculum to DC's sibling (who had just finished public kindergarten the year prior) I was ASTOUNDED by how much better the private school kindergarten was. I had thought to repeat kindergarten in public school, but there is no way I will do that now. My DC is academically more than ready for first grade. Yes, my child will always be the youngest. But to hold a child who is ready back makes no sense to me. Any potential advantage I think would just be washed away by a year of a less stimulating/challenging environment.
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Re: Preschool/Kindergarten Cutoff
Posted by Christine2
I never had a problem with my December baby remaining with the kids born in the same year. I guess the preschools I sent DC to just didn't make an issue of it. When the time came for kindergarten DC was placed in a private kindergarten. In fact, when I compared the private school kindergarten curriculum to DC's sibling (who had just finished public kindergarten the year prior) I was ASTOUNDED by how much better the private school kindergarten was. I had thought to repeat kindergarten in public school, but there is no way I will do that now. My DC is academically more than ready for first grade. Yes, my child will always be the youngest. But to hold a child who is ready back makes no sense to me. Any potential advantage I think would just be washed away by a year of a less stimulating/challenging environment.
Though I think this is straying from the OP topic... a very good reason could be social maturity and fine motor skills. You just can't accelerate those... and they develop differently from academics.
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Re: Preschool/Kindergarten Cutoff
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by LuckyStar
They'll put the kid right into first grade. It goes by birth year. There was a times article about it a couple years ago, how it's become basically impossible.
The point you made though is whats most infuriating to me (not you, just the point!). Parents get all up in arms about not being able to hold their child back because it's THEIR child and THEY make the decisions. Well what about what I think is best for MY child who misses the cutoff by a week? I'm SOL. I don't get the option to do whatever I want. No exceptions for her. But a child 6 months out of the age bracket is fine. It's crazy to me.
I agree.
Rules are rules. The school district makes them for a reason. They should be stricter about them and stop this nonsense. Because at the end of the day it isn't fair.
It seems a lot of people in this world feel rules don't apply to them.
I agree... and if you really feel your child needs to be held back then that can be addressed at their kindergarten screening.
Pretty soon we're going to have people in their 20's in high school. It's gotten out of hand.
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Re: Preschool/Kindergarten Cutoff
Posted by Katareen
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Posted by LuckyStar
They'll put the kid right into first grade. It goes by birth year. There was a times article about it a couple years ago, how it's become basically impossible.
The point you made though is whats most infuriating to me (not you, just the point!). Parents get all up in arms about not being able to hold their child back because it's THEIR child and THEY make the decisions. Well what about what I think is best for MY child who misses the cutoff by a week? I'm SOL. I don't get the option to do whatever I want. No exceptions for her. But a child 6 months out of the age bracket is fine. It's crazy to me.
I agree.
Rules are rules. The school district makes them for a reason. They should be stricter about them and stop this nonsense. Because at the end of the day it isn't fair.
It seems a lot of people in this world feel rules don't apply to them.
I agree... and if you really feel your child needs to be held back then that can be addressed at their kindergarten screening.
Pretty soon we're going to have people in their 20's in high school. It's gotten out of hand.
Just to show you the other side. My twins are Nov 26th. Cutoff here is dec 1st
So when they go to K this year they will turn 5 that November and there is a kid born Dec 3rd who will turn 6
It's a big difference. I saw it in pre k. What other kids could do/maturity.
When I registered them for school they talked to be about kids with Kate birthdays and if parents choose to hold back it is something we could discuss
So sometimes it's not about rules,it's really just about helping the child
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Re: Preschool/Kindergarten Cutoff
Posted by nycgirl
Posted by Christine2
I never had a problem with my December baby remaining with the kids born in the same year. I guess the preschools I sent DC to just didn't make an issue of it. When the time came for kindergarten DC was placed in a private kindergarten. In fact, when I compared the private school kindergarten curriculum to DC's sibling (who had just finished public kindergarten the year prior) I was ASTOUNDED by how much better the private school kindergarten was. I had thought to repeat kindergarten in public school, but there is no way I will do that now. My DC is academically more than ready for first grade. Yes, my child will always be the youngest. But to hold a child who is ready back makes no sense to me. Any potential advantage I think would just be washed away by a year of a less stimulating/challenging environment.
Though I think this is straying from the OP topic... a very good reason could be social maturity and fine motor skills. You just can't accelerate those... and they develop differently from academics.
I agree that being ready for K is a combination of academics, maturity/social skills and other things like fine motor skills. I understand parents waiting because their children need more time to develop in one or more of these areas and don't want them to struggle. What I don't understand is when kids are clearly ready for K and parents hold them back for a perceived advantage whether academically or in sports down the line.
It's such an individual decision. DS1 was born less than 3 weeks before the cutoff in my area. We sent him to K at 4 because he was more than academically ready and his preschool/daycare teachers also felt he was ready. He's going into 4th grade now and doing great. He's with kids who are well over a year older than him. I worried about whether we made the right decision to send him, but so far, he hasn't struggled. It's very common in my area for parents to hold back their Fall babies, especially boys.
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Preschool/Kindergarten Cutoff
My son is 2.5 and a December baby. My district has a December 1st cut off. The cons is I have to pay a whole extra year of daycare. That adds up quick. He is at an in home daycare so he mixes with all of the kids but based on his ability he is mostly with the 3 year olds. My thinking is I get to keep my baby a baby for another year and him being the oldest may give him an advantage academically. I would have been worried about him being the youngest in his class. I'm a teacher and many times the kids with the maturity issues have the later birthdays. In your situation I would talk to the director about when your child can go to the other class. If your child is advanced maybe the director will be opened to the move.
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