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ko123
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Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

I am planning my wedding and MAY not have a Catholic priest officiate it (if we want to have the ceremony outdoors), and a relative is telling me we can never baptize our children then. I have close friends who aren't even married and have still baptized their children in a Roman Catholic Church. I was present at the baptisms. Was I imagining their baptisms?
I assume some churches maybe ask for the marriage certificate? I don't know. All stressed now. Any insight?
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Posted 1/16/08 10:15 AM
 
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Christine
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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

One of my friends was married at city hall and baptized her their children.

Posted 1/16/08 10:16 AM
 

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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

I'm catholic and as far as I know, one has nothing to do with the other...

Posted 1/16/08 10:16 AM
 

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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

I think it depends on how strict the church is. You can always check with your church. Technically if you get married outside you cannot have a priest officiate...So if the church is strict, they may care that you didn't have a Catholic wedding ceremony.

Posted 1/16/08 10:17 AM
 

JenniferEver
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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

I'm pretty sure you can still baptize your baby (why "punish" the children?). You will still have to attend the pre-baptism classes though.

They may ask you to convalidate your marriage. Would you be willing to do that?

Posted 1/16/08 10:17 AM
 

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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

Children do not pay for the "sins" of the parents. All babies can be baptized, and it doesn't have to be done by a priest.

My parents baptized my niece in the bathroom sink.

Message edited 1/16/2008 10:18:54 AM.

Posted 1/16/08 10:18 AM
 

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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

The catholic church will always accept babies (baptise). One doesn't have anything to do with the other.

Posted 1/16/08 10:19 AM
 

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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

Posted by karacg

Children do not pay for the "sins" of the parents. All babies can be baptized, and it doesn't have to be done by a priest.

My parents baptized my niece in the bathroom sink.



Can a child be baptized even if the parent wasn't (does the church care)?

I'm a godparent (unofficially I guess, because I was never baptized myself), and they called me something other than godparent since I refused to be baptized. Just wondering how they would treat that.

Message edited 1/16/2008 10:20:57 AM.

Posted 1/16/08 10:20 AM
 

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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

depends on the church and how flexible they are

Posted 1/16/08 10:20 AM
 

JenniferEver
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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

Posted by nov04libride

Posted by karacg

Children do not pay for the "sins" of the parents. All babies can be baptized, and it doesn't have to be done by a priest.

My parents baptized my niece in the bathroom sink.



Can a child be baptized even if the parent wasn't (does the church care)?

I'm a godparent (unofficially I guess, because I was never baptized myself), and they called me something other than godparent since I refused to be baptized.



Godparents must have received all customary sacraments and must be in "good standing" in the church.

Posted 1/16/08 10:21 AM
 

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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

I'm pretty sure that's not true. I go to an extremely conservative church and they have not asked for a wedding license for DS' baptism.

Posted 1/16/08 10:21 AM
 

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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

Posted by JenniferEver

Posted by nov04libride

Posted by karacg

Children do not pay for the "sins" of the parents. All babies can be baptized, and it doesn't have to be done by a priest.

My parents baptized my niece in the bathroom sink.



Can a child be baptized even if the parent wasn't (does the church care)?

I'm a godparent (unofficially I guess, because I was never baptized myself), and they called me something other than godparent since I refused to be baptized.



Godparents must have received all customary sacraments and must be in "good standing" in the church.



But what about the parents? Do they need the sacraments too?

Posted 1/16/08 10:22 AM
 

ko123
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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

I don't want to sound as if I'm turning my back on my religion, we just really want to have our wedidng a certain way. I don't consider that a sin. We do have a Catholic priest (family friend) who will officiate the wedding if we want (but it won't be recognized by the Vatican). I will have to research more. Thanks for all the responses...

Edited to say...fiance and I have received all of our sacraments...

Message edited 1/16/2008 10:24:45 AM.

Posted 1/16/08 10:22 AM
 

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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

Posted by ko123

I don't want to sound as if I'm turning my back on my religion, we just really want to have our wedidng a certain way. I don't consider that a sin. We do have a Catholic priest (family friend) who will officiate the wedding if we want (but it won't be recognized by the Vatican). I will have to research more. Thanks for all the responses...



I had a beautiful outdoor ceremony that I wouldn't have traded for anything, and the officiant made note of how God is around us everywhere, in the trees, in the wind...I felt it was just as religious as if it was inside a church, for what it's worth!

Posted 1/16/08 10:23 AM
 

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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

As long as one parent is Roman Catholic then the baby can be baptized in the church. Some are stricter than others, but there's no way to pre-determine as it varies from priest to priest.

Posted 1/16/08 10:24 AM
 

JenniferEver
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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

Posted by nov04libride

Posted by JenniferEver

Posted by nov04libride

Posted by karacg

Children do not pay for the "sins" of the parents. All babies can be baptized, and it doesn't have to be done by a priest.

My parents baptized my niece in the bathroom sink.



Can a child be baptized even if the parent wasn't (does the church care)?

I'm a godparent (unofficially I guess, because I was never baptized myself), and they called me something other than godparent since I refused to be baptized.



Godparents must have received all customary sacraments and must be in "good standing" in the church.



But what about the parents? Do they need the sacraments too?



I don't think they have to be.

Posted 1/16/08 10:24 AM
 

JenniferEver
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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

Posted by ko123

I don't want to sound as if I'm turning my back on my religion, we just really want to have our wedidng a certain way. I don't consider that a sin. We do have a Catholic priest (family friend) who will officiate the wedding if we want (but it won't be recognized by the Vatican). I will have to research more. Thanks for all the responses...

Edited to say...fiance and I have received all of our sacraments...



Have the outdoor wedding, then schedule a convalidation. Chat Icon

Posted 1/16/08 10:26 AM
 

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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

The two have nothing to do with each other.

Children are welcome into any RC congregation to be baptized - at any age regardless of their parent's wedding.

To get married in the RCC, you have to show you were baptized - that's the only connection.

Posted 1/16/08 10:27 AM
 

ko123
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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

Posted by JenniferEver

Posted by ko123

I don't want to sound as if I'm turning my back on my religion, we just really want to have our wedidng a certain way. I don't consider that a sin. We do have a Catholic priest (family friend) who will officiate the wedding if we want (but it won't be recognized by the Vatican). I will have to research more. Thanks for all the responses...

Edited to say...fiance and I have received all of our sacraments...



Have the outdoor wedding, then schedule a convalidation. Chat Icon



We may just do that! I was even thinking of having the "rehearsal" at a church in the area (we're doing a destination wedding)...and then telling everyone there (the bridal party and our parents)..."hey we're really getting married now...but don't tell any of the guests tomorrow at the wedding!" lol...
Thanks again....to be honest this is more an issue with our parents than us...

Message edited 1/16/2008 10:33:25 AM.

Posted 1/16/08 10:32 AM
 

JenniferEver
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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

Posted by ko123

Posted by JenniferEver

Posted by ko123

I don't want to sound as if I'm turning my back on my religion, we just really want to have our wedidng a certain way. I don't consider that a sin. We do have a Catholic priest (family friend) who will officiate the wedding if we want (but it won't be recognized by the Vatican). I will have to research more. Thanks for all the responses...

Edited to say...fiance and I have received all of our sacraments...



Have the outdoor wedding, then schedule a convalidation. Chat Icon



We may just do that! I was even thinking of having the "rehearsal" at a church in the area (we're doing a destination wedding)...and then telling everyone there (the bridal party and our parents)..."hey we're really getting married now...but don't tell any of the guests tomorrow at the wedding!" lol...
Thanks again....to be honest this is more an issue with our parents than us...



That's a GREAT idea. Have an intimate wedding in the chruch w/ close family and friends before you go away. That way you'll be married in the eyes of the church, and I'm sure it would make your parents very very happy.

ETA: You can have lots of guilt-free honeymoon sex Chat Icon

Message edited 1/16/2008 10:37:13 AM.

Posted 1/16/08 10:34 AM
 

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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

well since at the church I was thinking of doing dd's baptism at, they needed proof that the godparents were married in a catholic church, I would say yes, you would need to be married in a church to have your baby baptised

I wound up using a different church that did not require any proof from the godparents but Dh and I did have a convalidation wedding ceremony so that our union was recognized by the church...HTH

Message edited 1/16/2008 10:35:39 AM.

Posted 1/16/08 10:35 AM
 

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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

I was a single mother and baptized my son...

I think you just have to be CATHOLIC. (My son's father is Jewish.. but he's not involved in my son's life...) so I'm not entirely sure if you BOTH have to be Catholic.

Message edited 1/16/2008 10:38:36 AM.

Posted 1/16/08 10:35 AM
 

pinkandblue
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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

Posted by JenniferEver



They may ask you to convalidate your marriage.



this is what we did before the baby was born Chat Icon

Posted 1/16/08 10:36 AM
 

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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

I was not married at ALL - Not in a church, a synagogue or city hall - and the church happily baptized my children.

They did SUGGEST that marriage would be a good way to complete our family - but they did not demand it.

They ask that you be mindful of the fact that you are agreeing to raise your child in a faith that you are not necessarily adhering to by having children out of wedlock, but they do demand that you get your baby gone!

Posted 1/16/08 10:37 AM
 

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Re: Pls help settle an argument re: baptizing a baby

Posted by Jennie0898

I'm catholic and as far as I know, one has nothing to do with the other...



ITA. We're baptizing our son next month and our church is pretty conservative...nobody asked if we were married...although the last name kind of asnwers that. But I have attended baptisms where the parents of the children were not married.

Posted 1/16/08 10:37 AM
 
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