Penn State hazing death

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Absolutely disgusting. I hope these kids' futures are ruined.

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Awful. His poor parents.

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So sad. I get that kids drink when they shouldn't. And whether this was a hazing thing or not- they will get sloppy drunk and get hurt. CALL 911!! W T F
So worried about themselves, they let this kid die.

All I can hope for is he was too intoxicated to know what was even happening and he didn't suffer. His family on the other hand... their suffering will never end.

And hopefully these asshole "kids" involved get what deserve for being so friggin arrogant that it cost a life. Khakis and buton downs don't hide the fact that they are evil. Animals. Only animals would do this. Animals that should be locked up in a cage.

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This is heartbreaking. How can you do NOTHING????

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If you read the entire 81 pages of the Grand Jury report, he absolutely DID suffer and even after they tried to hide it. Disgusting excuses for humans.......how do you let someone DIE?????

There was one kid who kept telling the Frat President (I think) that they need to call 911. They shoved him into a wall and told him he was overreacting. I dont know, if I was that kid, I would have left and called 911 on my own. How you know he needs help and DO NOTHING is incomprehensible to me.

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Stuff like this probably happens all the time, and the drunk kids don't die...but cowards and subhumans let them languish drunk and injured.

I hate how people save and sacrifice their whole lives to send their kids to college so that they can spend most of it drunk and torturing other kids. DISGUSTING. And it's not just these kids.

This whole country has a problem with alcohol...and lack of humanity.

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Definitely a lack of humanity in this case for sure. These "kids" are sheep. Whatever to fit in.

It starts when they are small. Teaching kids to be independent thinkers is so important.

I cannot believe that not one of these animals had the heart to say, shit-he's probably really hurt and just call 911. anonymously if you're so afraid of what your boys may say.

Disgusting.

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We really need to teach kids today to think for themselves and stand up for themselves and others. This is horrible but like others said, I'm sure its not as uncommon as it should be.

I was just reading some articles this morning on AP news about sexual assaults in schools and on sports teams (talking middle and high school here) and how common it really is, not to mention the lack of consequences most of the time.

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I have always been amazed that colleges allow these pledge events and hazings to continue. These houses should be shut down. We put kids in a situation where they are stinkin drunk and surrounded by peer pressure and then expect them to make sound decisions? Very sad.

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So sad. This is probably my greatest fears as a parent of boys. 1) That never get too drunk that they completely lose control of their body and get hurt 2) That they do not stand up against "friends" and make the right choice when they see someone else hurt.

I don't know about the case, but any one of those people in that house could've left and made an anonymous call. They didn't even have to leave. Step into a damn bathroom.

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I too just read the entire Grand Jury report. I couldn't believe what I was reading. Not one person did anything. Hitting him, pouring liquids on his face, punching him, sitting on him, put a backpack of texts books on his back to keep him from choking....no words. It just kept getting worse and worse. I hope the courts do the right thing and these boys do some time for this. Disgusting.

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I've been following the story b/c I live in Pa. I didnt read the link but what I had read previously is that there is video footage showing the victim getting up a few times after he had fallen at various times. like he was going in and out of conciousness. NO ONE helped him. Its really disgusting that everyone feared for themselves, tried waking him several times and still left him there hoping for the best.. and now he's dead.

such a senseless tragedy.

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It was completely avoidable. These vile kids should have called 911 the first time he fell. Instead of waiting till the morning then googling what to do for a head injury. Common sense and common courtesy. I can't wrap my head around this. Those poor parents.

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That poor boy and his poor parents. I read this comment on The NY Times coverage of this piece and it terrified me. I was not in a sorority but always thought I missed out and probably would've let my boys join a frat if they wanted to. Until reading this story and this comment:
This particular frat from all outward appearances was a model one. Multimillion dollar renovation investment from national. Leadership training... advertised as a dry fraternity. the whole works. If anyone did their research they would give this one a big thumbs up. In this case, it was a big lie. People who toured it was impressed by the house and members. How many others are a lie? I know I thought this was one of the "good ones" from my experience at Penn State.

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I have always been amazed that colleges allow these pledge events and hazings to continue. These houses should be shut down. We put kids in a situation where they are stinkin drunk and surrounded by peer pressure and then expect them to make sound decisions? Very sad.

I know this is going to be an unpopular opinion, but I see no reason for these fraternities to even exist.
Your'e in school to learn. Period.
They are nothing but trouble.
And yes, I know, kids will party and drink regardless.
But this hazing bulllshit- it has to stop

I agree.

I will never understand the infatuation with fraternities and sororities. Seems like there is a lot of no good shiit that goes on behind closed doors while they put up a front of 'goody two shoes' up front.

I 100% agree. The ONLY positive I can see is networking once you graduate though even that will usually only get you so far.

It never made sense to me, even when I was in college. I have to stay awake for a week straight or drink my weight in vodka to have "sisters?" Yeah, no thanks. I can make friends without that bs. Ones who don't dictate what I wear or how I do my makeup. And the whole volunteering/charity aspect is crap. If you want to volunteer for a cause important to you or give to charity, go right ahead. You don't need a sorority/fraternity to do that.

I have a co-worker who is a 'sister' in a sorority. We were walking back one day from getting lunch and she made this 'cackle' like call to another female that was crossing the street. The other female responded back in the same 'cackle'. When I asked her what that was about her response was 'its a sorority thing, I can't tell you'. It was the stupidest thing I had witnessed from two grown woman close to 40 and then to say you can't talk about anything that you do regarding your 'house' is so childlike and only confirms that there is so much shady shiit that goes on behind closed doors.

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Binge drinking in college is a problem that just will never go away. Ever. It is not limited to Greek life. It happens regardless. It needs to be aggressively addressed in colleges and even high schools. The only thing that can be done to decrease these types of occurrences is to provide more education that alcohol can be just as deadly as drugs and what the signs are of a true medical problem in the face of excessive drinking so that college kids are readily aware and, hopefully, respond appropriately if they recognize someone is having a real problem.

It's tragic on so many levels. This poor kid is dead. His family is destroyed. I don't think these other guys intended on this outcome but their lives are ruined.

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This country has a real problem with alcohol.

Everywhere from bowling alleys to golf courses to baseball stadiums, it's like no one can enjoy a pastime without having to "alter" or obliterate themselves. It's really sad.

And then people try to mitigate their behavior by saying how drunk they were and how they had no idea what they were doing.

How/why does an adult feel the need to allow that to happen to themselves? Regularly? And then freely admit that they black out? No stigma?

This country needs to get honest about alcohol and what it's doing to us.