Re: OK...I am stepping in my flame retardant suit, but I need to ask a question about "going organic"

We are not an organic family in that DH and I do not eat organic and I am not 100% consistent with it for DS.

I do get many things organic for him but to be honest...my motivation has been more of the nature ingredients over the pesticide issue. I want to reduce his sugar intake and the preservatives used in shelved food for now. Therefore I will use fruits and vegetables that are not organic. At some point he will have to have exposure to sugars and otehr ingredients since we can't have a 'do as I say, not as I do" mentality. I personally just wanted him to taste the food in as close to a natural flavor as possible for the start.

With that said...I do respect those families that go organic.

Re: OK...I am stepping in my flame retardant suit, but I need to ask a question about "going organic"

I also dont buy into the " well we grew up on this stuff and were fine argument" ...because your ( anyone) one person and there are many others sick.

But again, I hope we can all respect each others parenting styles.

The reason I choose Organic bath products and BPA free plastics is hormonal reasons.

Studies show they affect hormones. they decrease male and female fertility and thats something me and my husband both suffer from. I will do ANYTHING , go in debt to buy organic to save my son from that misery.

The US is the only country in the WORLD with a lowering puberty rate. No where in the entire world has the puberty rate ( age) ever decreased but in the US...we are the worst eating country in the world and we know it, but marketing and food companies run our nation.


As far as Diana and other's questions about eating out etc...

Its all about moderation for me. If Noah is out at a birthday party at Mcdonalds, he can eat Mcdonalds....I dont feel once in a blue moon is gonna hurt, and for our own family events, I already tend to make something for us yes.....

I try to introduce to our family as much as I can( extended family) ...

I will never ever let him eat school food, especially after the beef scare last week, but I will always make sure to never say NO to everything, a kid cant live that way.

Like Ang, I want to control his sugar intake, we have diabetes and obesity in our genes...But Im not gonna ever say he cant have a piece of candy.

He will grow up understanding moderation and hopefully once its a way of life, it wont feel restricting.

They have organic everything these days, its not like hes gonna chew on grass and wheat sprouts for snacks....

Me and my husband do not eat 100% organic, but we have recently been making a lot of changes that way slowly.

Most of it was based on my own research and reading into it....

I still do plenty of bad things...drink tons of non organic coffee and creamer etc....But when it comes to Noah I am much more weary.

Maybe its b/c of my health issues that Im sensitive to this more then others...but I know how much better I feel when I dont eat packaged food , and now I have started investigating the things we breathe and use as skincare etc and I see nothing wrong with making a change for the better.

I feel both sides are defensive and I hope we continue this discussion in the way we are now. Learning from each other.

Im providing a lot of information on whats good for my family and my reasons, but will reitterate again, I do not judge what is right for someone else at all.

Message edited 10/20/2009 11:27:46 AM.

Re: OK...I am stepping in my flame retardant suit, but I need to ask a question about "going organic"

someone mentioned above about preservatives, this is something else that is truly scary to me.

Food is not meant to have a shelf life by means of chemically added preservatives.

I won't bore you, but I am conducting my own science experiment here -
DH came home with a package of Martin's Potato Rolls (long bun Hot Dog kind) on January 2nd - almost 7 weeks later the few rolls left show no signs of growing mold nor are they hard. Soft as the day they came home. I am keeping them around because I am truly curious as to when they will show outward signs of breaking down.

One of the listed preservatives is Calcium Propionate (which is also used as an additive in cow feed.)

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Posted by -DonnaMarie-

someone mentioned above about preservatives, this is something else that is truly scary to me.

Food is not meant to have a shelf life by means of chemically added preservatives.

I won't bore you, but I am conducting my own science experiment here -
DH came home with a package of Martin's Potato Rolls (long bun Hot Dog kind) on January 2nd - almost 7 weeks later the few rolls left show no signs of growing mold nor are they hard. Soft as the day they came home. I am keeping them around because I am truly curious as to when they will show outward signs of breaking down.

One of the listed preservatives is Calcium Propionate (which is also used as an additive in cow feed.)

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Re: OK...I am stepping in my flame retardant suit, but I need to ask a question about "going organic"

Because someone does not believe it's true does not mean it's not true.

I think we did not know a lot of things about what we did/ate when we were kids.

For example, my grand-fathers were heavy smokers. It's was what you did at the time. No warning on cancer. Nobody had a clue about the side effects of smoking. The warning came hundred of years after people started smoking. But we all know that the risk of getting cancer from smoking is very high. They started smoking at 16 without a care in the World. The warning had not even come yet. It came in the 60's I think. They both died because of the cigarettes. One of cancer. The other one of a stroke.

I am buying organic food for DS. Why? I am limiting the amount of "junk" in his system. I won't be able to protect him from everything but I think I can try as much as possible.

I am not as careful for me. Maybe I should.

ETA: by "junk" I mean chemicals/pestisides, etc...

Message edited 2/17/2008 8:26:26 PM.

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Posted by dm24angel

Posted by -DonnaMarie-

someone mentioned above about preservatives, this is something else that is truly scary to me.

Food is not meant to have a shelf life by means of chemically added preservatives.

I won't bore you, but I am conducting my own science experiment here -
DH came home with a package of Martin's Potato Rolls (long bun Hot Dog kind) on January 2nd - almost 7 weeks later the few rolls left show no signs of growing mold nor are they hard. Soft as the day they came home. I am keeping them around because I am truly curious as to when they will show outward signs of breaking down.

One of the listed preservatives is Calcium Propionate (which is also used as an additive in cow feed.)

wow! thats my husbands fav bread. i just read that to him...

Re: OK...I am stepping in my flame retardant suit, but I need to ask a question about "going organic"

OK I just have one question. How do you know what your buying is actually organic? As far as I knew, anything can be labeled organic since there is no regulations on it

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Posted by mcl916

OK I just have one question. How do you know what your buying is actually organic? As far as I knew, anything can be labeled organic since there is no regulations on it

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Posted by mcl916

OK I just have one question. How do you know what your buying is actually organic? As far as I knew, anything can be labeled organic since there is no regulations on it

Message edited 2/17/2008 8:55:38 PM.

Re: OK...I am stepping in my flame retardant suit, but I need to ask a question about "going organic"

Posted by mcl916

OK I just have one question. How do you know what your buying is actually organic? As far as I knew, anything can be labeled organic since there is no regulations on it

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Posted by KateDevine

Posted by mcl916

OK I just have one question. How do you know what your buying is actually organic? As far as I knew, anything can be labeled organic since there is no regulations on it

I actually said that earlier, sometimes the cynic in me really thinks its a way to get people to pay more money for the same squash that is for sale the next aisle over, but what do I know

But, do not get me wrong, I think it is great that everyone is making such a concerted effort to eat well, and teach their children good eating habits.

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I absouletly have to reply to this post....First of all I went organic and straight vegan for 6 & 1/2 years. I ate no diary, no meat, nothing that came from animals. Not only did I not benefit from it but I actually got extremly ill with a stomache bacteria.....all I kept thinking was how could this be I only eat organic. Needless to say I landed in the hospital for six weeks due to that. After speaking to my great aunt who is 96!!!!!.... she told me she has always eaten what ever she wants and has never had so much as a cold. And if cancer is directly linked to the food we eat then why is cancer found more in certain area's rather than others...for instance breast cancer long island. not to include the fact that my brother in law went organic with his son and the baby is a year old and either always has a cold or an ear infection. Where as with my son I don't do anything organic and has never been sick a day in his life....I think the whole organic thing is a way to make money...sorry I am sure alot of people will blow this line up once they read this but I don't care I agree with you on the fact we were raised with worse and are fine now.

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Posted by armeewife0514

I absouletly have to reply to this post....First of all I went organic and straight vegan for 6 & 1/2 years. I ate no diary, no meat, nothing that came from animals. Not only did I not benefit from it but I actually got extremly ill with a stomache bacteria.....all I kept thinking was how could this be I only eat organic. Needless to say I landed in the hospital for six weeks due to that. After speaking to my great aunt who is 96!!!!!.... she told me she has always eaten what ever she wants and has never had so much as a cold. And if cancer is directly linked to the food we eat then why is cancer found more in certain area's rather than others...for instance breast cancer long island. not to include the fact that my brother in law went organic with his son and the baby is a year old and either always has a cold or an ear infection. Where as with my son I don't do anything organic and has never been sick a day in his life....I think the whole organic thing is a way to make money...sorry I am sure alot of people will blow this line up once they read this but I don't care I agree with you on the fact we were raised with worse and are fine now.

Message edited 2/17/2008 8:58:27 PM.

Re: OK...I am stepping in my flame retardant suit, but I need to ask a question about "going organic"

OK so it has to have the USDA organic sticker on it. I didn't realize they had regulations now. That makes me feel a little better about it!!

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Posted by alexlynn7

Posted by dm24angel

On a baby food note...in 1992 the company who sells gerber its chicken was found to be using disgusting conditions to raise the chickens and using hormones and antibiotics at a horrible level to keep the chickens alive. Are kids are eating those antibiotics and I dont want to chance my son becoming antiobiotic resistant b/c of that.

Gerber stage 3 foods were found to have over 110 added ingredients deemed "company secrets" ...meaning they dont have to tell the public what it is so no one steals their recipe.

OMG. EWWWWWW. that is too foul for words.

Message edited 2/17/2008 9:07:07 PM.

Re: OK...I am stepping in my flame retardant suit, but I need to ask a question about "going organic"

For me, I try, as much as possible to give her at least organic eggs, milk and meats, and the fruits/veggies where she is eating the skin. It is the hormones and antibiotics in the milk and meat and eggs that worries me the most. As far as the fruits/veggies, I just think if I can cut down on the pesticides I will. I don't go crazy buying organic cereals, pastas, breads, etc. I just feel like the risk is less with those products so I don't make myself nuts over it. Also if we are out and I can't give her organic, I don't make myself crazy over that either. I just feel like if I can cut down on some of the stuff I don't want her ingesting, I'm helping her.

Re: OK...I am stepping in my flame retardant suit, but I need to ask a question about "going organic"

My husband I do not eat organic foods but I grew up in Europe during the late 70s and 80s where pretty much everything was organic, packaged in glass or other natural fibers. I want my son to be strictly on organic food...to my best ability, bc I believe that exposure to all the pesticides and chemically grown food will sooner or later have some sort of an effect on his health and my DH's family has a long history of cancer, heart disease, stroke, etc. I want my boy to develop healthy eating habits and eat organic foods. But thats my choice, and I would never flame or judge somebody who doesn't do organic. To each its own just as with everything else.

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Re: OK...I am stepping in my flame retardant suit, but I need to ask a question about "going organic"

I am so on the fence with all of this stuff. I am a firm believer in mind over matter. My DH has had some minor health issues and the more he thinks about stuff, the worse he gets. However, I am just curious, if I were to buy organic, do you have to go to special stores? Can you go to a major grocery store chain and get the everyday essentials?

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Message edited 2/18/2008 9:30:16 AM.

Re: OK...I am stepping in my flame retardant suit, but I need to ask a question about "going organic"

Posted by armeewife0514

I absouletly have to reply to this post....First of all I went organic and straight vegan for 6 & 1/2 years. I ate no diary, no meat, nothing that came from animals. Not only did I not benefit from it but I actually got extremly ill with a stomache bacteria.....all I kept thinking was how could this be I only eat organic. Needless to say I landed in the hospital for six weeks due to that. After speaking to my great aunt who is 96!!!!!.... she told me she has always eaten what ever she wants and has never had so much as a cold. And if cancer is directly linked to the food we eat then why is cancer found more in certain area's rather than others...for instance breast cancer long island. not to include the fact that my brother in law went organic with his son and the baby is a year old and either always has a cold or an ear infection. Where as with my son I don't do anything organic and has never been sick a day in his life....I think the whole organic thing is a way to make money...sorry I am sure alot of people will blow this line up once they read this but I don't care I agree with you on the fact we were raised with worse and are fine now.

Re: OK...I am stepping in my flame retardant suit, but I need to ask a question about "going organic"

We don't eat organic. Honestly for one reason-It's way too expensive compartively to it's non organic counterparts. We're not willing to pay $4.99 for a 5lb bag of pototoes.

To each is own.
There's NO RIGHT and NO WRONG about this.