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mlny
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let's talk autism for a minute
So, my 15 month old nephew is here visiting from California. He just got his MMR shot and it has me thinking a lot about my own DS. I know the risks of autism these days are just so high.. and I know that there are just so many philosophies out there on what causes it.. so I was wondering, what are you going to do to "avoid" (for lack of a better word) autism? Whether it be altering vaccine schedules, lifestyle changes, etc etc.
ETA - in no way am i saying that AUTISM and MMR ARE RELATED. I am saying that my nephew getting his shots got me THINKING about what i want to do with my own DS.. and that there are so many theories out there about autism and what causes it that I wanted to know what you girls plan on doing with your own children. For example, some people say they will only use all natural household cleaners, only buy organic produce, alter vaccine schedules, etc etc etc.
The question that I am asking is what, if anything, you plan to do when your children are here. I feel like everyone is so ready to argue nobody is even seeing that i don't even state an opinion in my post - i want to know what you all are thinking.
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
MMR DOES NOT cause autism. Ask anyone on the parenting board. This "theory" (for lack of a better term) was rebuked over and over again.
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| Posted 3/18/10 12:35 PM |
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NYimport
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
I recently read in Time magazine that they have changed the way in which vaccines are administered, including what is actually in the vaccine (I think they are all now mercury free), and found that it had zero impact on autism rates. That being said, I think doctors these days space out the vaccines. It will definitely be something I will be asking my pediatrician when I reach that point.
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| Posted 3/18/10 12:36 PM |
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NervousNell
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
I honestly don't think there is anything you can do to "prevent' autism.
At least nothing that has been scientifically proven.
I feel like it's one of those things that nobody knows why it occurs- like a gene mutation that causes Down Syndrome, etc.
There isn't much you can do to prevent it IMO
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| Posted 3/18/10 12:42 PM |
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GioiaMia
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
Just prayer
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curliegirl
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
FM pinkiegirl...she can explain more accurately how the whole autism scare was a farce.....the doctor was a sham and put the whole world into a tailspin over npothing.
MMR does not cause autism....and as far as I know there is no preventing it.....
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MaMaTeenie
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
Posted by curliegirl
FM pinkiegirl...she can explain more accurately how the whole autism scare was a farce.....the doctor was a sham and put the whole world into a tailspin over npothing.
MMR does not cause autism....and as far as I know there is no preventing it.....
Well for 1 thing he had developed solo shots to replace the combined MMR. So he had a conflict of interest.
He has been totally discredited. My nephew is autistic, mildly, but I could tell from just a few mos old. I know the red flags from many workshops and such and he had them all, but I still gave my DS all his vaccines as recommended by my pediatrician. Fact is np one knows what's causing it and until theu figure it out we as parents have to do what we are comfortable with.
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jerseygirl
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
My nephew is on the "spectrum" for autism. We were able to tell that something wasn't quite right by the year mark. So, since it is a huge concern for me I am having my pediatrician work with me on a alternate vacine schedule. The shot that people were concerned that was "linked" with Autism is the MMR shot. I do know that plenty of studies have discredited that theory and say that it does not have anything to do with autism. But for me, I am having my child get that shot a little later on....15 months - 24 months. By then, if anything was wrong...I would probably know anyway, and can rest assure that the shot had nothing to do with it. It is a very personal choice though, and you have to do what you feel is best for you!
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
Posted by NervousNell
I honestly don't think there is anything you can do to "prevent' autism.
At least nothing that has been scientifically proven.
I feel like it's one of those things that nobody knows why it occurs- like a gene mutation that causes Down Syndrome, etc.
There isn't much you can do to prevent it IMO
I agree with this.
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mlny
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
Posted by teddysmama1021
MMR DOES NOT cause autism. Ask anyone on the parenting board. This "theory" (for lack of a better term) was rebuked over and over again.
If you read what I wrote I said there are many "theories"... not that I believe MMR causes autism. 
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MrsRbk
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
I would not, not give my DC the MMR because there is a "theory" it may or may not cause autism.
I for one do not believe it does, and my DD will be getting her MMR at her next Drs. appointment.
Every parent has to do what THEY feel is right for THEIR child.
While I have not done any research on autism, I strongly believe it's mostly due to genetics, and not caused by a vaccine.
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
Posted by mlny
, what are you going to do to "avoid" (for lack of a better word) autism? Whether it be altering vaccine schedules, lifestyle changes, etc etc.
I do not believe you can avoid autism. I believe either a child is going to have it or not. There is nothing you can do to avoid it.
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| Posted 3/18/10 1:26 PM |
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
Posted by MrsRbk
Posted by mlny
, what are you going to do to "avoid" (for lack of a better word) autism? Whether it be altering vaccine schedules, lifestyle changes, etc etc.
I do not believe you can avoid autism. I believe either a child is going to have it or not. There is nothing you can do to avoid it.
Yup.
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
Posted by mlny
Posted by teddysmama1021
MMR DOES NOT cause autism. Ask anyone on the parenting board. This "theory" (for lack of a better term) was rebuked over and over again.
If you read what I wrote I said there are many "theories"... not that I believe MMR causes autism.
But that theory was disproven thoroughly. And the complications from measles, mumps, amd rubella are a KNOWN danger to young children.
I work with children who have special needs, many with autism. Some have been vaccinated, some were not. Some are on specialized diets, some are not. Some have an older mom or dad, some have very young parents.
My point is that while there are tons of theories, there are really none you have any control over, and there are ALWAYS exceptions to the rule. It seems the ONE thing that parent's could control was the vaccine schedule- and that theory (at least the MMR) has been refuted.
As a soon to be mom to a son, I COMPLETELY understand the fear. I have it in my face everyday. I have a caseload of 40 children and 80% of them are boys, many on the spectrum. But I cannot get caught up in it because it's really out of my control. I just know that I will be the best mommy possible to this little guy, regardless.
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maymama
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
Posted by teddysmama1021
MMR DOES NOT cause autism. Ask anyone on the parenting board. This "theory" (for lack of a better term) was rebuked over and over again.
agreed. honestly, it comes down to modern medicine and advances in diagnosis and enlargement of the Autism spectrum. We know more, we have increased the spectrum so more are being diagnosed.
I dont think its that the numbers of incidence have increased, we just have a name for it now (same as with cancer and many other diseases).
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
I think a lot about this as well. I even checked out the Dr. Sears book. Then very recently there was a mommy on the parenting board who's dc got sick with something that she had purposely delayed to try and space out the shots. Obviously she was trying to do the best for her lo and no one knows for a fact that the vaccine would have even mattered b/c it would have only been one round- but it really got me rethinking the "it can't hurt to just space them out" theory... DS is only 3 weeks so we're not there yet (although I did decline hep b at the hospital but that's extremely common and really doesn't fall under the category you're bringing up). So, IDK that's where I'm at right now. My ped does 2 at a time standard and so I think that's what we r sticking with. As for MMR fyi if u didn't know they r no longer available separately. Oh also there r people who argue it's not the mercury that has now been corrected but rather the child's body getting overwhelmed by having to make multiple types of antibodies at once.
All these decisions are difficult ones. Some people will say ur irresponsible for spacing/delaying/declining. Other people will say ur irresponsible for blindly following the traditional schedule. I think that ur already a good mommy just for taking this stuff into consideration- and taking the time to look into the facts and educate urself. hth.
eta another thing I considered was the recent appearances of some of these illnesses we don't usually see- for example the little girl who brought measles home to LI from a trip abroad.
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
Posted by mlny
Posted by teddysmama1021
MMR DOES NOT cause autism. Ask anyone on the parenting board. This "theory" (for lack of a better term) was rebuked over and over again.
If you read what I wrote I said there are many "theories"... not that I believe MMR causes autism.
So why even mention the MMR???
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mlny
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
lol yeah okay. way to flame me because you can't read an entire post before jumping down someones throat.
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
Posted by mlny
lol yeah okay. way to flame me because you can't read an entire post before jumping down someones throat.
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
Posted by mlny
lol yeah okay. way to flame me because you can't read an entire post before jumping down someones throat.
She wasn't flaming you...
She just said the "theory" was rebuked.
You asked a question and based on how it was worded, these were the responses you got.
I didn't understand why you eye rolled at teddysmamma in the first place.
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
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Posted by mlny
lol yeah okay. way to flame me because you can't read an entire post before jumping down someones throat.
She wasn't flaming you...
She just said the "theory" was rebuked.
You asked a question and based on how it was worded, these were the responses you got.
I didn't understand why you eye rolled at teddysmamma in the first place.
Eh, I think the caps and some of the wording i.e "ask anyone" and the quotations around "theory" (plus "for lack of a better term") was unnecessarily inflammatory... JMO, not that I really care either way, lol- but it was a sorta harsh response and I think I would have been annoyed too if I was the OP (although I prob woulda just ignored it...)
Also, it was my understanding that the OP was just saying that w/ all the controversy surrounding the MMR (regardless of the outcome/ recent news) her nephew getting the MMR just got her thinking about autism in general and prompted the post/ question she asked.
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mlny
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
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Posted by mlny
lol yeah okay. way to flame me because you can't read an entire post before jumping down someones throat.
She wasn't flaming you...
She just said the "theory" was rebuked.
You asked a question and based on how it was worded, these were the responses you got.
I didn't understand why you eye rolled at teddysmamma in the first place.
I edited my OP in hopes that maybe I can explain myself a little clearer.
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
I work in the field. I have been teaching children with spectrum disorders for over 14 years. If I felt in my heart that there was any sort of correlation, I never would have vaccinated my child. In my experience, MANY (but not all) of my students with ASD's also have siblings with ASD and quite possibly parents with higher functioning Asperger's.
It is my firm belief that this "surge" of children with autism is due to different criteria of diagnoses, mis-diagnoses in the past and quite possibly more of a willingness of parents to get their children services and there has to be a diagnoses to get services.
I will be vaccinating this new baby on the way on time without hesitation. I am not frightened one bit.
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MaMaTeenie
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
I don't think the OP was saying there is a link anyway, but at this point no one knows the cause or any possible links that may exist. We are all just parents (or parents to be)trying to do the best for our kids. And the fact remains that children a little older (2yrs old)do all of a sudden develop signs or lose vocabulary that they once had and something is doing that.
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Re: let's talk autism for a minute
Posted by mlny
lol yeah okay. way to flame me because you can't read an entire post before jumping down someones throat.
I didn't flame, had I flamed you trust me you would have known it. What you did was brought the MMR and autism up in the same post. What I don't think you understand is that when people do things like that some new moms to be will link them automatically. Then it stays with you no matter what. Look it up on the parenting how many people have asked about MMR and Autism because someone posted something similar to what you did. Your the one who threw in the eye roll, so I threw in a few as well.
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