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SweetestOfPeas
J'taime Paris!

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How do you feel about this practice?
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Posted 4/30/07 11:28 AM |
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Lisa
I'm a PANK!!!

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Name: Professional Aunts No Kids
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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
I dont agree with it at all.
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Posted 4/30/07 11:29 AM |
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SweetestOfPeas
J'taime Paris!

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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
Posted by Lisa
I dont agree with it at all. neither do I!
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Posted 4/30/07 11:30 AM |
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Stefanie
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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
What??? Why do women have to feel this way about their virginity? It's okay for men to have sex but not women? I would NEVER pay for the surgery...gross...
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Posted 4/30/07 11:31 AM |
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KGools
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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
I think it's insane... IMO, it's the act of sex that makes you loose your virginity, not breaking the hymen.
Message edited 4/30/2007 11:31:54 AM.
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Posted 4/30/07 11:31 AM |
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SweetTooth
I'm a tired mommy!

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Name: Lauren
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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
to me its silly, once you've done it, you've done it
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Posted 4/30/07 11:32 AM |
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jxnoscar
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Name: Nancy
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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
I think it's archaic and disgusting.
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Posted 4/30/07 11:34 AM |
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MrsMerlot
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Name: Chrissy
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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
I don't see a problem with it. It's based on their morals (or change of) and who am I to judge?
At least it's not for "aestetic" reasons like those that have their vageen (Jenna Jameson) reconstructed b/c they've worn it out so much!
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Posted 4/30/07 11:35 AM |
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jxnoscar
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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
Posted by ChrissynRicky
I don't see a problem with it. It's based on their morals (or change of) and who am I to judge?
At least it's not for "aestetic" reasons like those that have their vageen (Jenna Jameson) reconstructed b/c they've worn it out so much!
I see no difference in what Jameson did verus these women.
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Posted 4/30/07 11:36 AM |
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SweetestOfPeas
J'taime Paris!

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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
Posted by ChrissynRicky
I don't see a problem with it. It's based on their morals (or change of) and who am I to judge?
At least it's not for "aestetic" reasons like those that have their vageen (Jenna Jameson) reconstructed b/c they've worn it out so much! not to stir the pot or anything, but how do you feel about the cultural belief that a woman's clitoris be removed?
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Posted 4/30/07 11:36 AM |
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SweetestOfPeas
J'taime Paris!

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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
Posted by jxnoscar
Posted by ChrissynRicky
I don't see a problem with it. It's based on their morals (or change of) and who am I to judge?
At least it's not for "aestetic" reasons like those that have their vageen (Jenna Jameson) reconstructed b/c they've worn it out so much!
I see no difference in what Jameson did verus these women. I do. what jenna did was a personal preference. these women are doing it because it is expected that they are virgins when they get married, or they could be "honor killed" by a family member! SICK SICK SICK!!!!!!
Message edited 4/30/2007 11:38:22 AM.
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Posted 4/30/07 11:38 AM |
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MrsMerlot
Unconditional Love

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Name: Chrissy
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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by ChrissynRicky
I don't see a problem with it. It's based on their morals (or change of) and who am I to judge?
At least it's not for "aestetic" reasons like those that have their vageen (Jenna Jameson) reconstructed b/c they've worn it out so much! not to stir the pot or anything, but how do you feel about the cultural belief that a woman's clitoris be removed?
These are two different events. The women that have their clitoris removed do not have a choice. It is based on the practices of their culture - I do not agree with it at all.
This incident has everything to do with choice - they knowingly lose their virginity and then knowingly have the reconstructive surgery.
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Posted 4/30/07 11:38 AM |
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KGools
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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
Even though this is a totally voluntary procedure, can we compare this to countries that make women undergo female circumcisions?
I just feel like the pressure coming from family members to make sure the girls hymen is in tact in similar to women being forced to have female circumcisions... am I totally off on this one?
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Posted 4/30/07 11:40 AM |
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DebG
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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
to each her own. These are grown women making decisions, I am no one to judge...especially since they aren't hurting anyone.
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Posted 4/30/07 11:41 AM |
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MrsMerlot
Unconditional Love

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Name: Chrissy
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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by jxnoscar
Posted by ChrissynRicky
I don't see a problem with it. It's based on their morals (or change of) and who am I to judge?
At least it's not for "aestetic" reasons like those that have their vageen (Jenna Jameson) reconstructed b/c they've worn it out so much!
I see no difference in what Jameson did verus these women. I do. what jenna did was a personal preference. these women are doing it because it is expected that they are virgins when they get married, or they could be "honor killed" by a family member! SICK SICK SICK!!!!!!
There are MANY cultures where a woman is expected to be a virgin before she is married. She is expected to lose her virginity to her husband...not her boyfriend.
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Posted 4/30/07 11:41 AM |
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KGools
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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
Posted by ChrissynRicky
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by ChrissynRicky
I don't see a problem with it. It's based on their morals (or change of) and who am I to judge?
At least it's not for "aestetic" reasons like those that have their vageen (Jenna Jameson) reconstructed b/c they've worn it out so much! not to stir the pot or anything, but how do you feel about the cultural belief that a woman's clitoris be removed?
These are two different events. The women that have their clitoris removed do not have a choice. It is based on the practices of their culture - I do not agree with it at all.
This incident has everything to do with choice - they knowingly lose their virginity and then knowingly have the reconstructive surgery.
After reading all of these posts, IMO the similarity lies in the expectation. Women in this culture are expected to be virgins at marriage therefore they MUST have this procedure done to uphold the honor of their families... in other nations it's expected that the women have their clitoris removed just because it's what they do and what they believe.
ETA: When I say "this culture" I mean the one where women are being "re-virginized".. just wanted to clear that up.
Message edited 4/30/2007 11:43:17 AM.
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Posted 4/30/07 11:42 AM |
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DebG
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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
Posted by ChrissynRicky
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by ChrissynRicky
I don't see a problem with it. It's based on their morals (or change of) and who am I to judge?
At least it's not for "aestetic" reasons like those that have their vageen (Jenna Jameson) reconstructed b/c they've worn it out so much! not to stir the pot or anything, but how do you feel about the cultural belief that a woman's clitoris be removed?
These are two different events. The women that have their clitoris removed do not have a choice. It is based on the practices of their culture - I do not agree with it at all.
This incident has everything to do with choice - they knowingly lose their virginity and then knowingly have the reconstructive surgery.
Big difference. This particular article was about ADULT women who decided for themselves that they would have this done. Female Mutilation happens at a very young age, it's not done in a nice sterile office and in most cases scars a child (mentally and physically for life.
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Posted 4/30/07 11:43 AM |
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Tany
Becoming a different woman

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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
I don't get it.
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Posted 4/30/07 11:43 AM |
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jxnoscar
Baby Delicious!

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Name: Nancy
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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
Posted by DebG
Posted by ChrissynRicky
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by ChrissynRicky
I don't see a problem with it. It's based on their morals (or change of) and who am I to judge?
At least it's not for "aestetic" reasons like those that have their vageen (Jenna Jameson) reconstructed b/c they've worn it out so much! not to stir the pot or anything, but how do you feel about the cultural belief that a woman's clitoris be removed?
These are two different events. The women that have their clitoris removed do not have a choice. It is based on the practices of their culture - I do not agree with it at all.
This incident has everything to do with choice - they knowingly lose their virginity and then knowingly have the reconstructive surgery.
Big difference. This particular article was about ADULT women who decided for themselves that they would have this done. Female Mutilation happens at a very young age, it's not done in a nice sterile office and in most cases scars a child (mentally and physically for life.
It's horrific. It is the worst possible female torment IMO.
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Posted 4/30/07 11:44 AM |
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Blu-ize
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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
It's a false pretense. They are not virgins..it's just a piece of tissue being sewn back. It's a lie. They have had sex. It's just an antotomical change.
It means nothing to me. She did the deed already. The guy she is marrying will not be the first. Technically to me she is not a virgin whether she has the surgery or not.
What crack do you have to be smoking to think that because you have surgery to restore a piece of tissue that the sex you had 10 years ago didn't happen?
Why subject a woman to unnecessary surgery that carries risks? There is no health benefit therefore I do not agree with it at all.
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Posted 4/30/07 11:45 AM |
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mtdr1106
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Member since 3/06 2268 total posts
Name: tricia
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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
Posted by ChrissynRicky
I don't see a problem with it. It's based on their morals (or change of) and who am I to judge?
At least it's not for "aestetic" reasons like those that have their vageen (Jenna Jameson) reconstructed b/c they've worn it out so much!
i have to agree. i dont feel this is violating them in anyway - especially because it is an outpatient thing and voluntary. it is their personal choice to uphold these traditions.
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Posted 4/30/07 11:47 AM |
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SweetestOfPeas
J'taime Paris!

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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
Posted by ChrissynRicky
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by jxnoscar
Posted by ChrissynRicky
I don't see a problem with it. It's based on their morals (or change of) and who am I to judge?
At least it's not for "aestetic" reasons like those that have their vageen (Jenna Jameson) reconstructed b/c they've worn it out so much!
I see no difference in what Jameson did verus these women. I do. what jenna did was a personal preference. these women are doing it because it is expected that they are virgins when they get married, or they could be "honor killed" by a family member! SICK SICK SICK!!!!!!
There are MANY cultures where a woman is expected to be a virgin before she is married. She is expected to lose her virginity to her husband...not her boyfriend. if these women weren't so afraid of "disgracing their families" or WORSE (being honor killed), do you really think they would do it?
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Posted 4/30/07 11:49 AM |
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DebG
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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
Posted by Blu-ize
It's a false pretense. They are not virgins..it's just a piece of tissue being sewn back. It's a lie. They have had sex. It's just an antotomical change.
It means nothing to me. She did the deed already. The guy she is marrying will not be the first. Technically to me she is not a virgin whether she has the surgery or not.
What crack do you have to be smoking to think that because you have surgery to restore a piece of tissue that the sex you had 10 years ago didn't happen?
Why subject a woman to unnecessary surgery that carries risks? There is no health benefit therefore I do not agree with it at all.
How is this any different than woman in america who LIE about their "lists" to their boyfriend/FH or DH? LOTS of women leave a number or two off...
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Posted 4/30/07 11:51 AM |
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jxnoscar
Baby Delicious!

Member since 8/06 4156 total posts
Name: Nancy
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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by ChrissynRicky
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by jxnoscar
Posted by ChrissynRicky
I don't see a problem with it. It's based on their morals (or change of) and who am I to judge?
At least it's not for "aestetic" reasons like those that have their vageen (Jenna Jameson) reconstructed b/c they've worn it out so much!
I see no difference in what Jameson did verus these women. I do. what jenna did was a personal preference. these women are doing it because it is expected that they are virgins when they get married, or they could be "honor killed" by a family member! SICK SICK SICK!!!!!!
There are MANY cultures where a woman is expected to be a virgin before she is married. She is expected to lose her virginity to her husband...not her boyfriend. if these women weren't so afraid of "disgracing their families" or WORSE (being honor killed), do you really think they would do it?
This is such a great question bc it leads us to whether or not thier religion/culture/morals have shaped them to believe this is the 'right' thing to do. So to answer your question, I think in their hearts they do not want to do it, but feel they must or they will be unaccepted and disgrace their family.
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Posted 4/30/07 11:51 AM |
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KGools
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Re: How do you feel about this practice?
Posted by DebG
Posted by Blu-ize
It's a false pretense. They are not virgins..it's just a piece of tissue being sewn back. It's a lie. They have had sex. It's just an antotomical change.
It means nothing to me. She did the deed already. The guy she is marrying will not be the first. Technically to me she is not a virgin whether she has the surgery or not.
What crack do you have to be smoking to think that because you have surgery to restore a piece of tissue that the sex you had 10 years ago didn't happen?
Why subject a woman to unnecessary surgery that carries risks? There is no health benefit therefore I do not agree with it at all.
How is this any different than woman in america who LIE about their "lists" to their boyfriend/FH or DH? LOTS of women leave a number or two off...
The women who lie aren't paying thousands of dollars and having surgery on their va-jay-jay for no reason...
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Posted 4/30/07 11:53 AM |
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