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Do you agree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio at the funeral again?

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Yes they absolutely should 128 58.45%
No they should have honored what was asked of them to show respect to Diblasio 50 22.83%
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Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

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Goobster
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Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

I have to say I personally agree with what they did, by turning their backs on Diblasio again. What do you think?

Posted 1/5/15 11:53 AM
 

BaseballWidow
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

I agree. I feel they have very few ways of getting their voices heard and point across. The NYPD does not have the same political power that Nassau/Suffolk cops do. I do not think they disrespected the fallen officers, at all, as they were at full attention for them and their families.
DiBlasio was disrespectful, period. You get what you give.

Posted 1/5/15 11:58 AM
 

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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

Posted by BaseballWidow

I agree. I feel they have very few ways of getting their voices heard and point across. The NYPD does not have the same political power that Nassau/Suffolk cops do. I do not think they disrespected the fallen officers, at all, as they were at full attention for them and their families.
DiBlasio was disrespectful, period. You get what you give.



Chat Icon I think to give Diblasio the sign of respect was trivializing the death of these two brave men. Diblasio crossed a big line that cannot ever be done again. He has a LOT of proving to do after his disgusting remarks and actions.

Posted 1/5/15 12:00 PM
 

Mom0710
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

100% agree. They have to stand up for what they believe in.

Posted 1/5/15 12:12 PM
 

DiamondGirl
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Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

I don't know. I dislike DiBlasio but I also don't think stooping his level proves anything. Then again they are angry and hurt, very rightfully so, so I totally get it. I guess I am undecided.

Posted 1/5/15 12:20 PM
 

MrsA1012
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Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

I get where they are coming from and they've certainly got a right to free expression,just like the protestors. Yes, I do support them.

Posted 1/5/15 12:23 PM
 

CSK
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Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

free expression? Come on. Do you get free expression where you work? can you go up to anyone and state your piece and expect to be employed tomorrow?

I don't know where any of you guys work, but I've had bosses, CEOs, CFOS, make bad decisions, unrealistic goals, say unhelpful things and provide a message that my (departments) function isn't valued in the past. Yes its demotivating.

If I disrespected him, how exactly would that go down? My boss would tell me, you disrespected the CEO, he is our top level BOSS, it was totally inappropriate, I don't know if I'd get the opportunity to ask/beg for my job back.....

Message edited 1/5/2015 12:34:44 PM.

Posted 1/5/15 12:33 PM
 

StaceyWill
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Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

I'm on the fence. I mean, the 1st time they did it, it got their point across. But, now it just seems a little childish, maybe? I'm torn.

Posted 1/5/15 12:48 PM
 

MrsV41511
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

This man is the MAYOR of NYC. He isn't a CEO of a company. He is supposed to show support for the police officers....and honestly he didn't and doesn't. They have every right to be disrespectful to that man and they should continue to be disrespectful to him.

Posted 1/5/15 12:52 PM
 

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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

Posted by CSK

free expression? Come on. Do you get free expression where you work? can you go up to anyone and state your piece and expect to be employed tomorrow?

I don't know where any of you guys work, but I've had bosses, CEOs, CFOS, make bad decisions, unrealistic goals, say unhelpful things and provide a message that my (departments) function isn't valued in the past. Yes its demotivating.

If I disrespected him, how exactly would that go down? My boss would tell me, you disrespected the CEO, he is our top level BOSS, it was totally inappropriate, I don't know if I'd get the opportunity to ask/beg for my job back.....



I understand where you're coming from. The problem here is DeBlasio ran on an anti-cop agenda and a lot of his remarks threatened the safety of his police officers. Now two officers are dead. If your CEO said those things, would you ever question your safety? Might others feel empowered or emboldened to kill you?

I can understand the officers giving the mayor their backs and support them 100%.

Message edited 1/5/2015 1:00:16 PM.

Posted 1/5/15 12:52 PM
 

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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

Posted by StaceyWill

I'm on the fence. I mean, the 1st time they did it, it got their point across. But, now it just seems a little childish, maybe? I'm torn.



I agree and for the record I can't stand diblasio

Posted 1/5/15 12:55 PM
 

lilqtny
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

Posted by Goobster

I have to say I personally agree with what they did, by turning their backs on Diblasio again. What do you think?



I agree. And DiBlasio should step down.

Posted 1/5/15 12:55 PM
 

limomof2
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

GOOD FOR THEM! This is their "protest". He still has not apologized for anything, he let protesters chant that they wanted "dead cops" and then expects them to respect him? And his wife wearing jeans to Liu's funeral is beyond disrespectful IMO.

Posted 1/5/15 12:59 PM
 

McSullivan
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

Posted by limomof2

GOOD FOR THEM! This is their "protest". He still has not apologized for anything, he let protesters chant that they wanted "dead cops" and then expects them to respect him? And his wife wearing jeans to Liu's funeral is beyond disrespectful IMO.



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Posted 1/5/15 1:00 PM
 

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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

Posted by StaceyWill

I'm on the fence. I mean, the 1st time they did it, it got their point across. But, now it just seems a little childish, maybe? I'm torn.



me too, part of me thinks no, they could have done it in a better way.

Posted 1/5/15 1:02 PM
 

LMFitz
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

If my CEO, CFO or boss makes a bad decision that de-motivates myself or my colleagues, it doesn't put my life in jeopardy. DiBlasio's words and actions undeniably put police officers' lives in jeopardy - in my opinion. That's not really an accurate comparison.

I support their silent demonstration of their frustration.

Posted 1/5/15 1:17 PM
 

KevinNKristin8-15-08
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Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

Yes 100% agree. Good for them honestly!

Posted 1/5/15 1:23 PM
 

alli3131
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Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

Time and a place and IMO a funeral is not the time or the place to do anything but morn!

Posted 1/5/15 1:50 PM
 

alli3131
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Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

Time and a place and IMO a funeral is not the time or the place to do anything but morn!

Posted 1/5/15 1:50 PM
 

Chai77
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

Posted by CSK

free expression? Come on. Do you get free expression where you work? can you go up to anyone and state your piece and expect to be employed tomorrow?

I don't know where any of you guys work, but I've had bosses, CEOs, CFOS, make bad decisions, unrealistic goals, say unhelpful things and provide a message that my (departments) function isn't valued in the past. Yes its demotivating.

If I disrespected him, how exactly would that go down? My boss would tell me, you disrespected the CEO, he is our top level BOSS, it was totally inappropriate, I don't know if I'd get the opportunity to ask/beg for my job back.....



I agree with you.

Posted 1/5/15 2:05 PM
 

MarisaK
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

Posted by CSK

free expression? Come on. Do you get free expression where you work? can you go up to anyone and state your piece and expect to be employed tomorrow?

I don't know where any of you guys work, but I've had bosses, CEOs, CFOS, make bad decisions, unrealistic goals, say unhelpful things and provide a message that my (departments) function isn't valued in the past. Yes its demotivating.

If I disrespected him, how exactly would that go down? My boss would tell me, you disrespected the CEO, he is our top level BOSS, it was totally inappropriate, I don't know if I'd get the opportunity to ask/beg for my job back.....



A CEO of a private company isn't the same as a public, elected official -
And working for profit in the private sector, is NOT the same as working civil service

Also, even as a CEO, you don't stand up publicly and throw YOUR management and staff under the bus - You back them, you do whatever you need to do to swing things in your (their) favor - You are on the SAME side .......at the very least, publicly.

Then again, I'm biased b/c I think this mayor is a TERRIBLE and an embarassment. I am in the city every day and since he's taken office you can already see the decline. - I am counting the days until he's gone -

Posted 1/5/15 2:11 PM
 

MrsB12614
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Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

I agree. The cops are peacefully and respectfully showing their opinion. These police officers deserve respect.

Posted 1/5/15 2:14 PM
 

Pomegranate5
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

I completely see their point, but I think someone's funeral is not the time or the place to make that kind of a statement. Then again, my opinion might change depending on how the grieving families felt about it. If they wanted the cops to turn their backs, fine.

Posted 1/5/15 2:29 PM
 

nrthshgrl
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Re: Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

I checked no they should have turned their back but disagree with having to show their respect to DiBlasio.

They shouldn't be turning their backs. It wasn't the time or the place. They don't have to respect him but they needed to have respect for the family of the deceased who invited DiBlasio to the funeral.

This about sums up my belief on the whole thing:
http://samuel-warde.com/2014/12/open-letter-nypd/

Copy & Paste:

First of all, I would like to say that I am pro-cop. I do believe that most of the police officers in this country are good people who do their best every day to protect the lives of the citizens they serve. But, my belief that most cops are good, does not diminish the fact that there are some who abuse their power or the fact that the entire system should be evaluated and improved.

Now having said that, I would like to talk about your disgraceful behavior on Saturday at the funeral for Officer Rafael Ramos.

Personally I found it appalling that you would use a funeral service for one of your own to make some kind of political statement. Especially after the city demanded that the protesters stop all political demonstrations until AFTER the funeral. A big deal was made that any protesting during the funeral would be absolutely disrespectful to the family of the officer killed. And you were right about that.

Now I realize that you have your issues with Mayor de Blasio, and that they started before any of these #AllLivesMatter demonstrations. Not only are you in an ongoing contentious contract dispute with City Hall, but the Mayor also openly ran on a platform of ending Stop and Frisk, and ending police corruption. So I guess I can understand how you could feel protective of your own men in blue. But what I don’t understand is why that should make you so hate-filled toward the Mayor. I mean, if you are a good honest cop, then why wouldn’t you want the bad apples removed?? And if this really is more about your contract negotiations, then shame on you for dividing the city, and much of the nation, under false pretenses.

NYPD union officials have said that the Mayor has “blood on his hands” following the murder of these two officers, and they have accused him of siding with the protesters instead of the cops. But what I fail to see here is why you have turned this into a dangerous game of ‘us against them’ when that is the very thing for which you condemn the protesters. It seems obvious to the rest of us that Mayor de Blasio was merely trying show empathy for people upset about recent cases of police brutality causing the deaths of African American citizens.

Empathizing with peaceful protesters or giving his own personal experience of what it’s like to raise a black son in New York City does NOT make him anti-cop.

You also tried to make the case that Mayor de Blasio should not even be allowed to attend funerals for fallen police officers. Why? Especially in this case of Officer Ramos, where the cop’s family actually said that they wanted the Mayor there. The family also asked that the funeral service be just about Ramos, and NOT about politics.

And so what did you do? You turned a funeral service for one of your own into a ridiculous spectacle for the world to see.. You chose to make a funeral all about you instead of the murdered cop being laid to rest. Turning your backs to Mayor de Blasio as he delivered the eulogy for Officer Ramos made you look like petty children throwing a tempter tantrum. And it did absolutely nothing to improve your image for those people who really do mistrust or dislike the police.

I have heard it over and over again that the cops blame the protesters for not only creating an atmosphere conducive to cop killings, but for also causing the divide and hatred throughout the city. So what exactly do you think your little stunt on Saturday did?? I can tell you for sure that it did nothing to calm the heated situation down or to heal the division between law enforcement and the public. But what it DID do is to exacerbate the entire situation.

Shame on you NYPD….you have literally embarrassed your entire profession and the city of New York.

Posted 1/5/15 2:32 PM
 

PaddysGirl
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Do you agree with or disagree with the police officers turning their backs on Diblasio again?

I think they did what they felt was right. Good for them. DiBlasio turned their backs on them awhile ago. They did not disrespect these familes, they stood there in the cold and rain to show their support. I can't see anyone arguing that fact.

Posted 1/5/15 2:54 PM
 
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