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LisaW
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Cablevison channels
So, last night I was flipping through the channels in my bedroom where I don't have a box, and I notice that A&E, History, E!, and Animal Planet are all blocked out now if you don't have a box
I am annoyed 
Just adding- I don't have a box in there b/c something is wrong with the wire and the signal is not strong enough... the exact reason has yet to be figured out
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kerrycec03
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Re: Cablevison channels
I KNOW!!! We get free cable where we live and as of yesterday certain channels we cannot get because we don't have a IO. That bites!!!!
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| Posted 5/14/08 1:44 PM |
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Babe49
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Re: Cablevison channels
I think we got an announcement in the mail or in our last cable bill about that. Bites!
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| Posted 5/14/08 1:45 PM |
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fins
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Re: Cablevison channels
we got a notice in the mail, the chanels became digital channels or something like that, so if you do not have a digital io box you will not be able to view the channels even though they are part of your cable plan
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| Posted 5/14/08 1:59 PM |
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Shorty
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Re: Cablevison channels
yup, we got a postcard too.
TLC, HGTV, and a few others are also included in the change. Glad we have boxes on all tvs - those are my favorite channels!
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| Posted 5/14/08 2:00 PM |
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evnme
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Re: Cablevison channels
we got the postcard too.
you have to get a digital box to see those channels.
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| Posted 5/14/08 2:08 PM |
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Grrrrrrrr!!!! We're trying to cut back and save money and they want us to buy another box!!!!!! 
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| Posted 5/14/08 2:12 PM |
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Bellabear
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Re: Cablevison channels
i saw a special on the news like last week about this....they are basically making people go digital. i happen to have digital cable now...but for those who don't...you will soon be forced to
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| Posted 5/14/08 2:15 PM |
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ave1024
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Re: Cablevison channels
Posted by fins
we got a notice in the mail, the chanels became digital channels or something like that, so if you do not have a digital io box you will not be able to view the channels even though they are part of your cable plan
They are in the process of moving all the channels over to digital. By February 2009 everything will be moved over.
To the people saying they are getting "free cable", i'll tell you for a fact if Cablevision finds out you are stealing cable they will come after you.
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| Posted 5/14/08 2:23 PM |
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LittleBlueBug
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Re: Cablevison channels
Posted by ave1024
Posted by fins
we got a notice in the mail, the chanels became digital channels or something like that, so if you do not have a digital io box you will not be able to view the channels even though they are part of your cable plan
They are in the process of moving all the channels over to digital. By February 2009 everything will be moved over.
To the people saying they are getting "free cable", i'll tell you for a fact if Cablevision finds out you are stealing cable they will come after you.
I don't think she meant she was "stealing" cable. It's rare, but some places include cable as a utility covered by rent.
I heard about this too, but did not think much of it until DH saw the missing channels. It stinks. I refuse to get another box though. So we will only use one TV instead of 2. Cablevision can kiss off. I have gasoline and food to pay for, watching TV in the bedroom isn't that important.
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| Posted 5/14/08 2:33 PM |
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Chrisnamy
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Re: Cablevison channels
Another reason to charge us more money
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| Posted 5/14/08 2:37 PM |
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ave1024
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Re: Cablevison channels
Posted by LittleBlueBug
I don't think she meant she was "stealing" cable. It's rare, but some places include cable as a utility covered by rent.
I understand. I wasn't directing this at any particular poster. I just know that Cablevision does go after people if they are using the existing cable lines to get channels 1-80 or whatever it is without paying them. This tends to happen a lot with people who happen to be renting and are using the landlord's cable.
I think Cablevision has a $15 plan or something along those lines for just using the existing cable lines with no cable boxes. I was just giving a heads up.
I heard about this too, but did not think much of it until DH saw the missing channels. It stinks. I refuse to get another box though. So we will only use one TV instead of 2. Cablevision can kiss off. I have gasoline and food to pay for, watching TV in the bedroom isn't that important.
They actually started removing channels a while ago. They are doing a few at a time. I guess you just noticed since they moved a few channels you watch. 
If you have an HDTV that has a "QAM Tuner" you can plug your cable line into this TV and get all your locals and a few cable channels. The benefits to QAM is it allows your HDTV to get these channels, and get them in HDTV like having a cable box. Cablevision is QAM ready. You don't need a cable box. It's also compatible with all the digital stuff they are doing so it will continue to work after Feb. 2009. The only downside is they don't have a lot of channels on QAM (maybe 20?).
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| Posted 5/14/08 2:43 PM |
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TreAnt427
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Re: Cablevison channels
Just an FYI for everyone, this is is regulated by the FCC. Cablevision has nothing to do with it. FCC is forcing everything to go digital by 2009.
ETA: Here is a link for more info. HTH!
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| Posted 5/14/08 2:45 PM |
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Blazesyth
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Re: Cablevison channels
Posted by TreAnt427
Just an FYI for everyone, this is is regulated by the FCC. Cablevision has nothing to do with it. FCC is forcing everything to go digital by 2009.
ETA: Here is a link for more info. HTH!
This is not correct. The FCC is changing the regulation that broadcast channels are not going to be delivered 'over the air' or 'via antenna' anymore. That means you need basic (NON-IO) cable in order to get 2,4,7,9, etc. Them moving channels to their IO tier is NOT regulated by the FCC.
What they are doing is moving channels from basic cable to IO cable. Channels that were previously offered in your basic package are now only on your IO package. This is why you would need an IO box to recieve them.
People who were using analog signals do not need to upgrade to an IO box, they just needed basic cable itself, connecting to a cable ready TV. No extra 10 dollars a month IO box needed.
Cablevision is actually coming under a lot of fire about this, because the way they are wording their documentation and CSR reps are speaking to people is scaring them into thinking that they must have the IO box to keep TV.
Here is an article about this on the Consumerist
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| Posted 5/14/08 3:27 PM |
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It annoys me taht you have to pay to HAVE a box
you are already paying alot of money for cablevision to begin and to have to pay over $6 for the box and a remote is crazy kwim
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| Posted 5/14/08 3:32 PM |
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oneday
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Re: Cablevison channels
This really ticked me off when we noticed it last night. I told DH we should just think about changing to satalite. It's ridiculous.
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| Posted 5/14/08 3:35 PM |
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kahlua716
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Re: Cablevison channels
Really?!?! I didn't know that! Now I'm 
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| Posted 5/14/08 3:35 PM |
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ave1024
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Re: Cablevison channels
Posted by Blazesyth
This is not correct. The FCC is changing the regulation that broadcast channels are not going to be delivered 'over the air' or 'via antenna' anymore. That means you need basic (NON-IO) cable in order to get 2,4,7,9, etc. Them moving channels to their IO tier is NOT regulated by the FCC.
The FCC rule is not just about over the air broadcasts. I thought it also has to do with analog cable through the line (NTSC). This does affect companies like Cablevision.
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| Posted 5/14/08 3:42 PM |
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TreAnt427
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Re: Cablevison channels
Posted by Blazesyth
Posted by TreAnt427
Just an FYI for everyone, this is is regulated by the FCC. Cablevision has nothing to do with it. FCC is forcing everything to go digital by 2009.
ETA: Here is a link for more info. HTH!
This is not correct. The FCC is changing the regulation that broadcast channels are not going to be delivered 'over the air' or 'via antenna' anymore. That means you need basic (NON-IO) cable in order to get 2,4,7,9, etc. Them moving channels to their IO tier is NOT regulated by the FCC.
What they are doing is moving channels from basic cable to IO cable. Channels that were previously offered in your basic package are now only on your IO package. This is why you would need an IO box to recieve them.
People who were using analog signals do not need to upgrade to an IO box, they just needed basic cable itself, connecting to a cable ready TV. No extra 10 dollars a month IO box needed.
Cablevision is actually coming under a lot of fire about this, because the way they are wording their documentation and CSR reps are speaking to people is scaring them into thinking that they must have the IO box to keep TV.
Here is an article about this on the Consumerist
Well, that is true too. Cablevision is moving channels to digital now, but it is inevitable that you will soon need a cable box for all channels.
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| Posted 5/14/08 3:47 PM |
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ave1024
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Re: Cablevison channels
Posted by TreAnt427
Well, that is true too. Cablevision is moving channels to digital now, but it is inevitable that you will soon need a cable box for all channels.
One reason I heard why Cablevision is doing this now "in stages" with the channels is to prevent an all-out catastrophy on February 17th.
Apparently a lot of people still have the Analog cable boxes, and they are trying to get customers off them sooner than later. They feel the only way to do this effectively is to start moving channels to the digital tier. Once the customer sees "something is wrong" that gets them to call up and then they get a new box. I don't think there is an up-charge to have your regular cable box converted to a digital one (at least I don't think there is - if it is it's small).
Better to do a bunch of people here and there now... as compared to trying to fix 100,000 on Feb 17th (or however many customers they have).
If you are one of those customers that doesn't have a cable box period, Cablevision really doesn't care about you since you may not be paying.
If its for a TV in a spare bedroom where you already have a Cablevision account then yes you would need a cable box. That's the disadvantage. Or get a TV with a QAM tuner like I said earlier. Then you don't need a cable box.
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| Posted 5/14/08 3:52 PM |
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kerrycec03
Mom of 2 beautiful boys!!
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Re: Cablevison channels
Posted by ave1024
To the people saying they are getting "free cable", i'll tell you for a fact if Cablevision finds out you are stealing cable they will come after you.
Ok I don't STEAL cable as you are referring to. I pay a monthly homeowner's fee at my Townhouse Village (AND we own, don't rent). I really don't appreciate you jumping the gun and thinking that and making a rash comment.
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| Posted 5/14/08 3:57 PM |
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ave1024
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Re: Cablevison channels
Posted by kerrycec03
Posted by ave1024
To the people saying they are getting "free cable", i'll tell you for a fact if Cablevision finds out you are stealing cable they will come after you.
Ok I don't STEAL cable as you are referring to. I pay a monthly homeowner's fee at my Townhouse Village (AND we own, don't rent). I really don't appreciate you jumping the gun and thinking that and making a rash comment.
It's not a rash comment. You said you were getting "free cable" and did not say anywhere you lived in a HOA.
Here is your post.
Posted by kerrycec03
I KNOW!!! We get free cable where we live and as of yesterday certain channels we cannot get because we don't have a IO. That bites!!!!
Cablevision does not give "free cable" to anybody. Not even the employees.
Does your homeowners association provide you with a cable box as part of your deal with them? If they do then it's not an issue you are covered.
Second... since you say it's in your homeowners fees, then it isn't free and the comment can't be directed at you since you do pay for it through your fees.
My comment was valid and true. You sent me a FM demanding that I "remove my post". Why should I remove my post when you didn't clarify yourself better? You said you were getting "free cable". Your cable isn't free. You pay for it through your HOA fees.
I think you need to lighten up.
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| Posted 5/14/08 4:07 PM |
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Blazesyth
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Re: Cablevison channels
Posted by ave1024
Posted by Blazesyth
This is not correct. The FCC is changing the regulation that broadcast channels are not going to be delivered 'over the air' or 'via antenna' anymore. That means you need basic (NON-IO) cable in order to get 2,4,7,9, etc. Them moving channels to their IO tier is NOT regulated by the FCC.
The FCC rule is not just about over the air broadcasts. I thought it also has to do with analog cable through the line (NTSC). This does affect companies like Cablevision.
Cablevision is not affected by this, whether you have IO box or you don't have an IO box. If you already use Cablevision period, there is no need to change. FCC regulations are not forcing you to switch from regular basic cable to digital cable. The FCC regulation forces you to get an analog to digital box (IF your TV is not cable ready) and then basic cable.
See this FAQ from Cablevision
Quote from that page:
Cablevision will continue to provide an analog signal. Cablevision intends to provide a version of broadcasters' digital signals in analog to its customers. As a result, customers connecting a cable line directly to the back of a cable-ready analog TV, without the use of a digital cable box, will continue to receive the analog signal of such broadcasters on that TV.
Only those customers using an over-the-air antenna in combination with a older analog TV will be affected by the DTV broadcast transition change.
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| Posted 5/14/08 4:10 PM |
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ave1024
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Re: Cablevison channels
Posted by Blazesyth
Quote from that page:
Cablevision will continue to provide an analog signal. Cablevision intends to provide a version of broadcasters' digital signals in analog to its customers. As a result, customers connecting a cable line directly to the back of a cable-ready analog TV, without the use of a digital cable box, will continue to receive the analog signal of such broadcasters on that TV.
Only those customers using an over-the-air antenna in combination with a older analog TV will be affected by the DTV broadcast transition change.
I hope this is true because I have an LCD TV in my kitchen that has an NTSC analog tuner, as well as a slingbox that has the same type of tuner.
If both of these will work after the conversion that would really help. So we don't need the cheap $20 digital to analog converter box for this?
I wonder how many channels they will provide on this.
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| Posted 5/14/08 4:12 PM |
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kerrycec03
Mom of 2 beautiful boys!!
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Re: Cablevison channels
Actually we don't have a cable box, being the entire complex is wired (we are attached). And yes, it is considered free cable from cablevision. I get a statement every month for my internet and it says TV $0 (in quotes HOA). So I was correct.
As for telling me lighten up, I am generally a happy person, but if somebody accused you of stealing without knowing everything you'd be ticked off too.
And I didn't demand you to remove your post in FM. P.S. the point of FM is to discuss things outside a posting enviroment.
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