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1stimemom
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And THIS is what is wrong with our legal system!

what a shame

On April 10, 2010, Raquel Nelson lost her 4-year-old son. Nelson was crossing a busy Marietta, Georgia, street with her son and his two siblings when they were struck by a hit-and-run driver. Police were able to track down the driver, Jerry Guy, who later admitted he had been drinking and had taken painkillers the night of the accident. He was also mostly blind in one eye. Guy had already been convicted of two prior hit-and-runs. He pleaded guilty, served six months of his five-year sentence, and was released last October.

If it ended there, this story would merely be tragic. But it gets worse. Last week Nelson herself was convicted on three charges related to her son's death: reckless conduct, improperly crossing a roadway and second-degree homicide by vehicle. Each is a misdemeanor, punishable by up to 12 months in prison. Nelson could spend up to six times as many months in jail as the man who struck her son and then fled the scene. Nelson's crime: jaywalking.

Nelson had taken her children with her to shop for groceries and supplies for her upcoming birthday party. The working mother and college student regularly took public transportation, but she and her kids missed their intended bus that night, putting them an hour behind schedule. The bus they caught pulled up to their stop after nightfall, and Nelson stepped off, clutching her kids' hands through the shopping bags wrapped around her wrists. Nelson's apartment complex sits across the street from the bus stop, but the nearest crosswalk is three-tenths of a mile away. So Nelson did what everyone who uses that bus stop does, and what the other disembarking passengers all did that night: She crossed one side of the divided highway to the median, where she waited for a break in the traffic.

Several people then crossed the street before Nelson thought it was safe. She waited with her kids. But when others started to move towards the road, Nelson's son must taken it as a cue it was time to go. She felt his grip on her hand loosen and he darted out into the road. She followed. Guy's car struck Nelson, her son and her daughter, and the boy died.

Over the next month, as Guy was processed by Georgia's criminal justice system, Nelson buried and grieved for her son. But on May 14, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution ran a long story under the headline, "Jaywalkers take deadly risks." The article mentioned Nelson and her son, pointing out that she hadn't been charged with any crime. Three days later, the Georgia Solicitor General's office charged Nelson with the three misdemeanors.

Nelson was convicted last week, and she'll be sentenced on July 26.

Nelson, a black woman, was convicted by an all-white jury. She relies on public transportation; she is a pedestrian in a car-oriented Atlanta suburb. During jury questioning, none of the jurors who would eventually convict Nelson raised their hands when asked if they relied on public transportation. Just one juror admitted to ever having ridden a public bus, though in response to a subsequent question, a few said they'd taken a bus to Braves games.

Nelson was not judged by a jury of her peers; she was convicted by a jury that had no understanding of the circumstances that compelled her to cross the street where she did.

According to the Daily Mail, other tenants in Nelson's apartment complex had complained to the city about their difficulties getting home from the bus stop. The Transportation in America blog shows a photo of the stretch of highway where Nelson crossed as evidence city planners are guilty of "poor planning and dangerous designs."

No one forced Raquel Nelson to jaywalk the night of her son's death. The suggestion here isn't that the city owes Nelson anything for the consequences of her actions. But there is something to be said for designing cities with an eye toward how people actually behave, not how urban planners wish they would. Putting a bus stop in the middle of a busy highway, three-tenths of a mile away from the nearest crosswalk -- while zoning for apartments and businesses on the other side of the same street -- is poor planning.

But it's really the decision to prosecute Nelson that's outrageous. That the state can prosecute someone doesn't mean that it should. And it seems that a little empathy would be in order here.

Prosecutors have a great deal of discretion over when to bring charges, and over what charges they bring. If those in the office of Solicitor General Barry Morgan are charging Nelson to punish her for her jaywalking, they're misguided -- it's hard to conceive of a more potent punishment than the loss of a child. If their aim was to make an example of a devastated mother to prevent others from jaywalking, they're delusional.

But this isn't even the first time they've done it. According to the Journal-Constitution, in 2010, Morgan's office charged another woman whose child was struck and killed while the two were jaywalking.

A recent Pro Publica/Frontline investigation found prosecutors seem especially prone to find criminality -- then over-charge once they do -- in instances of child death, even when the evidence suggests the death was an accident.

Earlier this month, I wrote a column criticizing the so-called Caylee's Law, the bill sweeping state legislatures across the country in response to the Casey Anthony verdict. I mentioned a number of scenarios in which innocent parents or caretakers might be prosecuted under the law. The response from the law's supporters was that a prosecutor would never charge a grieving parent under those circumstances. This case shows that such prosecutions can and do certainly happen.

There are nearly always strong incentives for prosecutors to over-charge defendants. Prosecutors receive praise, and are reelected and promoted based on their ability to win convictions. They're rarely punished or held accountable for over-charging, or committing misconduct en route to a conviction. They're also rarely praised or credited when they decline to bring charges in the interest of justice.

There are a couple of solutions here. Lawmakers should anticipate ways laws might be abused or misapplied -- even in scenarios that seem unlikely -- and craft laws in ways that minimize the chance that they'll be abused. The justice system should not rely on the goodwill of prosecutors.

Another solution: We need to start holding prosecutors accountable for bringing unjust charges like those brought against Nelson -- even if they may technically be legally permissible.

In nearly all jurisdictions, "prosecutor" is a political position. That means voters can realign the incentives. If Cobb County residents want to make it clear that the prosecution of Raquel Nelson is an abuse of power and a waste of resources, they could let Solicitor General Barry Morgan know, both now and next Election Day.

Posted 7/24/11 6:18 PM
 
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Re: And THIS is what is wrong with our legal system!

How awful! Chat Icon That poor mom. It is disgusting that the man that actually killed her child might serve less time the she will. What will happen to her other children while she is in jail? Terrible!!

Posted 7/24/11 7:20 PM
 

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What was the point of pressing charges against her? Isn't it enough that she lost her child? Stories like this make me sick Chat Icon

Posted 7/24/11 7:41 PM
 

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So horrible mmuChat Icon

Posted 7/24/11 8:19 PM
 

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Re: And THIS is what is wrong with our legal system!

i wonder if they regularly prosecute (or at least ticket) people for jaywalking around there.

Posted 7/24/11 8:45 PM
 

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Re: And THIS is what is wrong with our legal system!

What does the fact that no one on the jury depended on public transportation have to do with anything? And an all white jury against a black woman? So is this a racist thing?


Either way the fact that they actually brought charges against her is disgusting. Chat Icon

Posted 7/24/11 10:01 PM
 

1stimemom
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Re: And THIS is what is wrong with our legal system!

Posted by cds58019

What does the fact that no one on the jury depended on public transportation have to do with anything? And an all white jury against a black woman? So is this a racist thing?


Either way the fact that they actually brought charges against her is disgusting. Chat Icon



Not sure what the black/white has to do with anything... maybe it is still divided in the south?

The point of the jury not using public transport was because apparently around there, the roads where you can cross are like 1/2 mile long. The woman would have had to walk a 1/2 mile with her young kids to the intersection, and then walked back to her apartment complex in order not to j-walk, which is essentially what they are charging this poor woman with - and she will serve more time then her child's killer who was not only high AND drunk AND legally blind, but had been convicted of other hit-and-runs before!Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 7/24/11 11:09 PM
 

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Re: And THIS is what is wrong with our legal system!

Out right disgusting!!! I am so pisssed off about this story.

We should be ashamed for having a legal system like this. Chat Icon

Posted 7/25/11 9:08 AM
 

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Re: And THIS is what is wrong with our legal system!

no one else is outraged by this, really?Chat Icon

Posted 7/25/11 8:48 PM
 

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Re: And THIS is what is wrong with our legal system!

W
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I am completely disgusted by so many details of this story. That poor mother!

Posted 7/25/11 9:00 PM
 

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Posted by 1stimemom

no one else is outraged by this, really?Chat Icon



COMPLELTY!!!This is INSANE andI cannot believe, I just cannot that it is even happening. Its INSANE!

Posted 7/25/11 9:06 PM
 

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Posted by 1stimemom

Posted by cds58019

What does the fact that no one on the jury depended on public transportation have to do with anything? And an all white jury against a black woman? So is this a racist thing?


Either way the fact that they actually brought charges against her is disgusting. Chat Icon



Not sure what the black/white has to do with anything... maybe it is still divided in the south?




Atlanta has an enormous African-American population, that not one AA was sitting on the jury is a little odd. And yes, there are still issues with racism there, just like here.

Posted 7/25/11 9:17 PM
 

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Re: And THIS is what is wrong with our legal system!

Posted by 1stimemom

no one else is outraged by this, really?Chat Icon



I am definitely. Granted she shouldn't have jay walked, but a DRUNK DRIVER does NOT belong on the road, PERIOD.

Message edited 7/25/2011 9:37:02 PM.

Posted 7/25/11 9:36 PM
 

1stimemom
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Re: And THIS is what is wrong with our legal system!

Posted by JDC112010

Posted by 1stimemom

no one else is outraged by this, really?Chat Icon



I am definitely. Granted she shouldn't have jay walked, but a DRUNK DRIVER does NOT belong on the road, PERIOD.



drunk, high, and legally blind!!Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 7/25/11 10:58 PM
 

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Posted by Kahuna

Posted by 1stimemom

Posted by cds58019

What does the fact that no one on the jury depended on public transportation have to do with anything? And an all white jury against a black woman? So is this a racist thing?


Either way the fact that they actually brought charges against her is disgusting. Chat Icon



Not sure what the black/white has to do with anything... maybe it is still divided in the south?




Atlanta has an enormous African-American population, that not one AA was sitting on the jury is a little odd. And yes, there are still issues with racism there, just like here.




It is WAY worse down there. Way worse. I worked with very souther GA folks, and not knowing me from a hole in the wall dropped the N word like saying hello.

This story is disgusting. This poor woman.

Posted 7/26/11 8:11 AM
 

Little-J-Mommy
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just playing devil's advocate here for a second....what if it was the nanny/babysitter illegally crossing the child? Would people still be outraged that they pressed jaywalking charges or would people be calling her a killer, saying that she increased the likelihood of an accident by not crossing the child the safest way?? I clearly get that they were hit by someone who should NEVER have been on the road, but who knows if he would've stopped at a light or cross-walk.

It's a devastating story all around, but I kind of get why they pressed charges on her. She neglected to be safe and broke the law at the risk of her child.

eta: I do not necessarily agree with the charges, I'm just trying to understand how they came to be

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Posted 7/26/11 8:22 AM
 

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Re: And THIS is what is wrong with our legal system!

Wow, because losing your son isn't punishment enough for jaywalking. That is incredibly sad and disgusting.

Posted 7/26/11 8:26 AM
 

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Posted by Little-J-Mommy

just playing devil's advocate here for a second....what if it was the nanny/babysitter illegally crossing the child? Would people still be outraged that they pressed jaywalking charges or would people be calling her a killer, saying that she increased the likelihood of an accident by not crossing the child the safest way?? I clearly get that they were hit by someone who should NEVER have been on the road, but who knows if he would've stopped at a light or cross-walk.

It's a devastating story all around, but I kind of get why they pressed charges on her. She neglected to be safe and broke the law at the risk of her child.

eta: I do not necessarily agree with the charges, I'm just trying to understand how they came to be



I also get why they charged & convicted her. IMO the only sentence is the one she's facing for the rest of her life. No time served necessary.


Posted by Kahuna

Atlanta has an enormous African-American population, that not one AA was sitting on the jury is a little odd. And yes, there are still issues with racism there, just like here.



I think it's a little strange too given the population.

I haven't seen the road but people cross Jericho Turnpike & Hempstead Turnpike in the same way.

Posted 7/26/11 9:08 AM
 

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Re: And THIS is what is wrong with our legal system!

Posted by Little-J-Mommy

just playing devil's advocate here for a second....what if it was the nanny/babysitter illegally crossing the child? Would people still be outraged that they pressed jaywalking charges or would people be calling her a killer, saying that she increased the likelihood of an accident by not crossing the child the safest way?? I clearly get that they were hit by someone who should NEVER have been on the road, but who knows if he would've stopped at a light or cross-walk.

It's a devastating story all around, but I kind of get why they pressed charges on her. She neglected to be safe and broke the law at the risk of her child.

eta: I do not necessarily agree with the charges, I'm just trying to understand how they came to be



While I am outraged at the possible jailing of this poor mother, I have to admit this is a good question. Had it been a nanny or babysitter crossing the child where the accident happened, would we be as outraged? Especially if it was by someone who was completely sober?

I hope this poor mother, who I am sure never thought in a million years that crossing her child where she did would cause him to lose his life, does not serve a single day in any jail. She will live the rest of her life with this pain.

Posted 7/26/11 11:53 AM
 

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This is absolutely DISGUSTING! I cannot believe this is the world we live in. I feel heart broken for her! Our system is so messed up. All too often I hear stories of people who murder someone serving less time than someone who robbed a bank. Really... how is murder less of a crime than robbing a bank? So sad Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 7/26/11 3:31 PM
 

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I just read she received probation. She will not be going to jail.

I still think probation is a little extreme for jaywalking....

Posted 7/26/11 3:35 PM
 

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Posted by 1stimemom

no one else is outraged by this, really?Chat Icon



I am! This is ludicrous

Posted 7/27/11 10:43 AM
 

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Just an update to this story: the mother is not going to do jail time. It was in this mornings Newsday.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/07/26/georgia.mother.sentencing/index.html?iref=allsearch

Posted 7/27/11 1:44 PM
 

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Posted by Bearcat

i wonder if they regularly prosecute (or at least ticket) people for jaywalking around there.



Not eally at all. I'm from GA. This is disgusting. The guy admitted to drinking earlier to. The judge actually granted a retrial to clear her name. It's digesting it even went this far.

Posted 7/27/11 2:12 PM
 

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Posted by 1stimemom

Posted by cds58019

What does the fact that no one on the jury depended on public transportation have to do with anything? And an all white jury against a black woman? So is this a racist thing?


Either way the fact that they actually brought charges against her is disgusting. Chat Icon



Not sure what the black/white has to do with anything... maybe it is still divided in the south?




Atlanta has an enormous African-American population, that not one AA was sitting on the jury is a little odd. And yes, there are still issues with racism there, just like here.



I am surprised as well about the jury. It's very out of character for here.

Posted 7/27/11 2:15 PM
 
 

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