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http://epa.gov/pesticides/health/flea-tick-control.html

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It doesn't look like a recall. More like they're scrutinizing them more because people are reporting skin reactions, seizures and deaths.

I actually saw a picture of someone's Lab that had a skin reaction, really gross. The poor dog ran around like crazy trying to rub it off. She washed it off and that seemed to calm the dog. Crazy, right?

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Because I keep hearing about issues with Frontline and got to thinking about the chemicals I'm putting on his skin, I looked into more natural alternatives.

I found two main ones - tea tree oil and garlic. The oil would be messy and get all over the place. The garlic, however, sounded interesting.

In another forum I post on, a woman said she uses Bug Off Garlic powder for her dogs, cats and horses for years now. No issues, no fleas and no ticks. I found it here:

Springtime Inc.

And it sounds pretty good. I chatted with her and some others about it who have similar results, and haven't used Frontline in years. The only thing is that garlic is a natural blood thinner, and you would have to get them off it if they were having surgery like for a spay/neuter.

I bought 2 pounds and got another 2 pounds free. It was $30 total for 4 pounds with shipping... I'd pay a heck of a lot more than that if I bought another round of Frontline!

If you're interested, I'll keep you updated on it. We go walking on the wooded paths in Blydenburgh park so I'm sure if he's going to get ticks or fleas, it will be then.

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Oh no! I use Frontline Plus on my pup, and have been since August, and I haven't had a problem. I hope that she doesn't have an adverse affect to this substance one day!

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I stopped using Frontline when I had kids. My kids climb all over our dog and I never really thought that stuff was safe

I've used Neem Oil in the past and it worked well

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I am confused, so what are they saying? Can someone please explain?

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i also wanted to add that my frontline is on the list......i bought it last summer and used it only 1 time on my pup...i used it only once b/c i thought it made him sick.....i put it on him and in the early morning hours he woke up with vomiting and diarhea (sp?)....i am not 100% sure that frontline was the cause but i really feel that he had an allergic reaction to it.....that night i had to rush him to the hospital ($$$) and the next day transfer him to my vet....and i asked my vet if it could be the frontline and he said that there are not many reported incidences of cases against frontline...but he didn't rule it out either....so i never put it on him again.....but now i do need something for him this summer since we moved into our new house and it's more wooded

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Here's the picture I mentioned someone posted on another message board I go on, it's a little gross:

Skin reaction to Frontline

eta: I had to put it in my album for you to see, sorry!

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Posted by greenfreak

Posted by strongisland

i wonder about garlic though--i have read that if dogs eat garlic that it is no good...but i wonder if that also applies to topical as well?

It's the Thiosulphate that is in both garlic and onion that you're talking about. Onion has a lot of it, garlic has minute amounts and could only cause a problem in severe overdoses.

Check it out: http://www.azmira.com/PublicationGarlicTheFacts.htm

Sorry I'm all over this thread but I've been reading so much about this lately, I wanted to share it with y'all.

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that is so scary. when I adopted my cat he had very bad fleas and we front lined him as well as our other 2 dogs. No one had fleas and the ones on him were gone in literally 20 minutes. What is just as effective and not this unsafe?

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i just posted this on my bulldog forum and a bunch of people added that they had problems w/frontline ( rash, not feeling well, etc.)...i am now totally convinced this is what made my dog sick last summer...i should send fronline my emergency vet bill!!!
anyway, some people suggested garlic (as greenfreak did) ---i have also heard that advantix is better/ok to use???? i am nervous to try it though!

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We got the Bug Off Garlic yesterday and I put 1/4 of the full dose in his food last night. He WOLFED it down. I think he likes it.

I could smell it on him for about 10 minutes afterwards, but not terribly. If I get in his face and his mouth is open, I can smell it but it's not horrible. Brinkley's mouth always smelled like fish anyway because of his food, so we don't really care about that.

We'll be adding it to every meal, and slowly bringing him up to the 1 scoop a day. At this rate, it will probably take me a year to go through all of it - and it only cost $30.

eta: His last Frontline was 3 weeks ago, and it's not a danger to do both at the same time. I'm going to have him at full strength within a week to "take over" where Frontline left off.

If he gets even one tick, I will let you all know.

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For anyone interested in Neem Oil...

Neem Oil

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My cat had a bad reaction to frontline. I use advantage now and so far no problems.

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Eek! we use frontline on Hershey!! we havent noticed any of those reactions... but we will talk to our vet about this!!