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JME78
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work place issue
This happened at my office earlier this year. The building had to shut off their water for the day. We were closed, employees that were able to telework did, those who couldn't did not but were not penalized.
I think its absolutely insane that they would remain open. No water is a health hazard.
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Posted 10/24/18 12:17 PM  |
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Re: work place issue
Posted by Katareen
Posted by SecretlyTTC14
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Jennifer
Here is what osha says:
https://www.osha.gov/SLTC/restrooms_sanitation/
"Employers must maintain restrooms in a sanitary condition. Restrooms must provide hot and cold running water or lukewarm water, hand soap or similar cleansing agent and warm air blowers or individual hand towels (e.g., paper or cloth). Waterless hand cleaner and towels/rags are not adequate substitutes for soap and water."
Interesting.
Sadly many employers feel they are above following OSHA rules and figure nobody will dare report them
I would report them lol. I'm like that though.
For one day??
So it’s a small company, you report them, they get fined, and then nobody gets a year-end bonus to offset the cost of the fine.
Doesn’t seem worth it.
Year end bonus? What's that? 
We've never been fined by OHSA, but we never get a year end bonus! Damn!
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| Posted 10/24/18 12:18 PM |
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BargainMama
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Re: work place issue
Posted by blu6385
In my office they would tell us just to work from home.
I hate porta potties!!! And I don't use them unless I really had no choice. I would not be happy. Are they the blue ones? Those are the worst. However they do make some that are not that bad and actually kind of look like regular bathroom. If its those I wouldn't care as much!
Yes the ones in the trailers are just like real bathrooms, and usually have sinks also. They have those on Governor's Island
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| Posted 10/24/18 12:33 PM |
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Re: work place issue
Posted by Mags1227
the office building we are in was told there will be no water on the whole street tomorrow.
we are an office of 50 people in a 4 floor building.
this morning, i saw them unloading 8 port-potties for the whole building.
if you were the owner, what would you do?
make your workers go out in the cold, to use a porta-potty, or just suck it up and close for the day?
Close for the day unless you were a major essential employee because without water, how are you washing hands in this porta-potty?!? I would be calling in sick if you were open!
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| Posted 10/24/18 12:37 PM |
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Re: work place issue
Posted by Katareen
Posted by SecretlyTTC14
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Jennifer
Here is what osha says:
https://www.osha.gov/SLTC/restrooms_sanitation/
"Employers must maintain restrooms in a sanitary condition. Restrooms must provide hot and cold running water or lukewarm water, hand soap or similar cleansing agent and warm air blowers or individual hand towels (e.g., paper or cloth). Waterless hand cleaner and towels/rags are not adequate substitutes for soap and water."
Interesting.
Sadly many employers feel they are above following OSHA rules and figure nobody will dare report them
I would report them lol. I'm like that though.
For one day??
So it’s a small company, you report them, they get fined, and then nobody gets a year-end bonus to offset the cost of the fine.
Doesn’t seem worth it.
I can't believe someone would report their employer for ONE day without water/bathroom when their were accommodations made
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| Posted 10/24/18 12:50 PM |
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SecretlyTTC14
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Re: work place issue
Posted by Straightarrow
Posted by Katareen
Posted by SecretlyTTC14
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Jennifer
Here is what osha says:
https://www.osha.gov/SLTC/restrooms_sanitation/
"Employers must maintain restrooms in a sanitary condition. Restrooms must provide hot and cold running water or lukewarm water, hand soap or similar cleansing agent and warm air blowers or individual hand towels (e.g., paper or cloth). Waterless hand cleaner and towels/rags are not adequate substitutes for soap and water."
Interesting.
Sadly many employers feel they are above following OSHA rules and figure nobody will dare report them
I would report them lol. I'm like that though.
For one day??
So it’s a small company, you report them, they get fined, and then nobody gets a year-end bonus to offset the cost of the fine.
Doesn’t seem worth it.
I can't believe someone would report their employer for ONE day without water/bathroom when their were accommodations made
The accommodations made are not adequate. They are required to provide running water. If they were doing things as required, there would be nothing to report. There is a reason these types of regulations are in place. It's because if there weren't, who knows what employers would try to get away with.
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| Posted 10/24/18 1:00 PM |
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lululu
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Re: work place issue
I would suck it up and use the porta potty for one day. I am sure they are clean enough. It would be different if there was no heat in the building.
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| Posted 10/24/18 1:03 PM |
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lululu
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Re: work place issue
Posted by SecretlyTTC14
Posted by Straightarrow
Posted by Katareen
Posted by SecretlyTTC14
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Jennifer
Here is what osha says:
https://www.osha.gov/SLTC/restrooms_sanitation/
"Employers must maintain restrooms in a sanitary condition. Restrooms must provide hot and cold running water or lukewarm water, hand soap or similar cleansing agent and warm air blowers or individual hand towels (e.g., paper or cloth). Waterless hand cleaner and towels/rags are not adequate substitutes for soap and water."
Interesting.
Sadly many employers feel they are above following OSHA rules and figure nobody will dare report them
I would report them lol. I'm like that though.
For one day??
So it’s a small company, you report them, they get fined, and then nobody gets a year-end bonus to offset the cost of the fine.
Doesn’t seem worth it.
I can't believe someone would report their employer for ONE day without water/bathroom when their were accommodations made
The accommodations made are not adequate. They are required to provide running water. If they were doing things as required, there would be nothing to report. There is a reason these types of regulations are in place. It's because if there weren't, who knows what employers would try to get away with.
Then prior to reporting them I would make them aware of this policy and ask that they get the trailer porta potties that have running water.
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| Posted 10/24/18 1:05 PM |
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Sash
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Re: work place issue
Posted by lululu
I would suck it up and use the porta potty for one day. I am sure they are clean enough. It would be different if there was no heat in the building.
I'm the opposite, I can deal with no heat for the day and wear a coat. I actually did for a few hours at my job and it did suck. But I could not do the porta potties and no water.
It's funny how everyone has their own tolerances and how different they can be.
Message edited 10/24/2018 1:07:51 PM.
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| Posted 10/24/18 1:07 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: work place issue
I've used porta potties (the plastic ones, not the fancy trailer ones) that had "running water". There was a foot pump and a sink, so you could definitely wash your hands.
I also bet there are loopholes for temporary use, just like the construction site differences. For construction sites, you don't need running water. Hand sanitizer is OK according to the OSHA rules.
I'm not saying it's something I would want to deal with, just that it's probably not something that you can file a complaint with OSHA about.
I would work from home, but I can do that at my job.
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| Posted 10/24/18 1:54 PM |
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mrsrainbow
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work place issue
We have some Petty Patty's here! It's one day - if you are that inconvenienced and can't function then I'd just call out sick and be done with it.
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| Posted 10/24/18 3:35 PM |
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Sash
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Re: work place issue
Posted by mrsrainbow
We have some Petty Patty's here! It's one day - if you are that inconvenienced and can't function then I'd just call out sick and be done with it.
I don't think not wanting to sh!t and piss on others peoples piss and sh!t is being petty.
Yes there are worse things in the world but why do I have to deal with that unless that was part of my job.
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| Posted 10/24/18 3:42 PM |
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NervousNell
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Re: work place issue
Posted by Sash
I don't think not wanting to sh!t and piss on others peoples piss and sh!t is being petty.
Best line of the day!
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| Posted 10/24/18 3:47 PM |
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jlm2008
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Re: work place issue
Posted by Straightarrow
Posted by Katareen
Posted by SecretlyTTC14
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Jennifer
Here is what osha says:
https://www.osha.gov/SLTC/restrooms_sanitation/
"Employers must maintain restrooms in a sanitary condition. Restrooms must provide hot and cold running water or lukewarm water, hand soap or similar cleansing agent and warm air blowers or individual hand towels (e.g., paper or cloth). Waterless hand cleaner and towels/rags are not adequate substitutes for soap and water."
Interesting.
Sadly many employers feel they are above following OSHA rules and figure nobody will dare report them
I would report them lol. I'm like that though.
For one day??
So it’s a small company, you report them, they get fined, and then nobody gets a year-end bonus to offset the cost of the fine.
Doesn’t seem worth it.
I can't believe someone would report their employer for ONE day without water/bathroom when their were accommodations made
I would, in a heartbeat. A port a potty is not an acceptable accommodation. It seems to be against the law to operate a business without running water/bathrooms.
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| Posted 10/24/18 3:54 PM |
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mrsrainbow
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Re: work place issue
Posted by Sash
Posted by mrsrainbow
We have some Petty Patty's here! It's one day - if you are that inconvenienced and can't function then I'd just call out sick and be done with it.
I don't think not wanting to sh!t and piss on others peoples piss and sh!t is being petty.
Yes there are worse things in the world but why do I have to deal with that unless that was part of my job.
I want to know where everyone works that the "not my job" line is acceptable A porta potty wouldn't bother me but to each their own
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| Posted 10/24/18 3:57 PM |
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Re: work place issue
Posted by Sash
Posted by mrsrainbow
We have some Petty Patty's here! It's one day - if you are that inconvenienced and can't function then I'd just call out sick and be done with it.
I don't think not wanting to sh!t and piss on others peoples piss and sh!t is being petty.
Yes there are worse things in the world but why do I have to deal with that unless that was part of my job.
They don't. It's one day, call out sick
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| Posted 10/24/18 4:01 PM |
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Re: work place issue
My office woud probably close & work from home as we did when we got new carpeting over the summer.
We were open with no heat in the past though, but fewer peopel could work form hoem then,a nd that was a differnt boss.
I sit near the bathroom here, and it gets a lot of traffic. Not just a mid-day pee break.
Also, if you a pregnant or have your period, that has to be extra- annoying.
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| Posted 10/24/18 4:03 PM |
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Sash
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Re: work place issue
Posted by mrsrainbow
Posted by Sash
Posted by mrsrainbow
We have some Petty Patty's here! It's one day - if you are that inconvenienced and can't function then I'd just call out sick and be done with it.
I don't think not wanting to sh!t and piss on others peoples piss and sh!t is being petty.
Yes there are worse things in the world but why do I have to deal with that unless that was part of my job.
I want to know where everyone works that the "not my job" line is acceptable A porta potty wouldn't bother me but to each their own
I was implying a job as a construction worker, police officer, or park ranger lol, where this would be the norm.
As for the "not my job", if you are referring to the other thread - I don't believe in outright saying "its not my job" but I am a firm believer in pushing back at work if you need too. There is nothing wrong with saying No at work (within reason of course).
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| Posted 10/24/18 4:03 PM |
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Sash
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Re: work place issue
Posted by Straightarrow
Posted by Sash
Posted by mrsrainbow
We have some Petty Patty's here! It's one day - if you are that inconvenienced and can't function then I'd just call out sick and be done with it.
I don't think not wanting to sh!t and piss on others peoples piss and sh!t is being petty.
Yes there are worse things in the world but why do I have to deal with that unless that was part of my job.
They don't. It's one day, call out sick
Which is exactly what I said I would do.
ETA: I would actually say Im not coming in and not even lie and say I am sick.
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| Posted 10/24/18 4:05 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: work place issue
Posted by Sash
Posted by mrsrainbow
We have some Petty Patty's here! It's one day - if you are that inconvenienced and can't function then I'd just call out sick and be done with it.
I don't think not wanting to sh!t and piss on others peoples piss and sh!t is being petty.
Yes there are worse things in the world but why do I have to deal with that unless that was part of my job.
We had a recent thread about this.... having indoor plumbing and running water doesn't mean you don't have piss and sh!t all over the bathroom... 
I just did a quick Google search. The really nice trailers are between $1000 and $3000 for a day, depending on # of stalls and extra features.
Porta potties are approximately $200 per day.
8 plastic porta potties are roughly $1500 for the day. A 6 toilet, 2 urinal trailer is roughly $2000 for the day.
I would think a company of this size could spring for an extra $500 so their employees could have some comfort.....
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| Posted 10/24/18 4:22 PM |
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PhyllisNJoe
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Re: work place issue
It's one day, I'd use the porta potty.
I would not report my employer for something completely out of their control. There will be no restrooms, so they are bringing in adequate restrooms for the day. They aren't asking you to "hold it" or go to the McDonald's down the street. Use purell to "wash" your hands. And lets be honest... we're lucky if 50% of people actually wash their hands after using the bathroom.
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| Posted 10/24/18 4:25 PM |
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Sash
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Re: work place issue
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Sash
Posted by mrsrainbow
We have some Petty Patty's here! It's one day - if you are that inconvenienced and can't function then I'd just call out sick and be done with it.
I don't think not wanting to sh!t and piss on others peoples piss and sh!t is being petty.
Yes there are worse things in the world but why do I have to deal with that unless that was part of my job.
We had a recent thread about this.... having indoor plumbing and running water doesn't mean you don't have piss and sh!t all over the bathroom...
Ofcourse the bathrooms can be unsanitary as I used public bathrooms before. But you should be able to flush it, where as porta potties you don't. Im talking about the regular small ones.
I just really hate porta potties as you can tell & had a traumatic experience when I was little. Trust me, my DH makes fun of me all the time. The lengths I have gone through to not use them is insane.
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| Posted 10/24/18 5:19 PM |
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NervousNell
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Re: work place issue
LOL we used to go to an outdoor concert every year in a state park and they had porta potties and me and my cousin always chose to go deep in the woods to pee.
It was cleaner!
The ticks be damned.
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| Posted 10/24/18 5:23 PM |
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Sash
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Re: work place issue
Posted by NervousNell
LOL we used to go to an outdoor concert every year in a state park and they had porta potties and me and my cousin always chose to go deep in the woods to pee.
It was cleaner!
The ticks be damned.
LOL!
During my Sparta races, I have peed in the woods to avoid them as well. One runner warned me there might be poison ivy and it was a risk I was very willing to take.
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| Posted 10/24/18 5:33 PM |
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