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Summergirl
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Re: Thoughts on this re: Steve Bannon

Posted by lululu

Posted by Chai77

Posted by lululu

Chai77 - just wondering what your thoughts on the ENTIRE article are? Did it ease your fears a little on his character? There are numerous sources that adamantly refuse claims that he is a racist or anti-Semitic.



Um, no not at all.

Like the pp said. Rates of home ownership are lowest in the AA community. Highest in whites. He said that himself first- voting should be based on property ownership. He was not lead or baited into that. What a god awful, backward, economically and racially biased idea.

More than ever, I think Bannon is a dangerous vile, despicable person. What I took away was he is a master manipulator using Trump who is stupid and clueless to further his own agenda.

Frankly, I'm shocked anyone here could defend this POS.



But just out of curiosity, are you certain he said this? How can you trust the source 100%? Everyone else quoted in the article said things to the contrary.



They aren't sure. But no matter what you say or how you say it they will continue to read what they want and then bash you and/or name call.

Posted 12/2/16 1:51 PM
 
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Re: Thoughts on this re: Steve Bannon

Posted by stinger

Posted by eroxgirl

Posted by Summergirl

Posted by eroxgirl

Posted by Xelindrya

I'm not reading this..
Because I think it's bullsh!t. Why.. here's why. Because to believe this you would have to believe the author, yes?

So for me to believe the author, I would have to believe in her character. Her own words were “I said, ‘That would exclude a lot of African-Americans,’” Ms. Jones recalled. So that means to me that she is racist. Why would anyone think that African-Americans would be excluded for property ownership? Not just excluded but as in her first thought as if that’s a fact? Enough to be a factor in voting. Not just some but a “LOT” of.

So you want me to believe a racist calling out another person?

I won’t say he is or isn’t. Nor do I think he’s innocent of implying these things at other times or whatever. I wasn’t there. But her choice of words for recollection (as shown here) makes me not want to read a single word more. And not want to believe a single thing.

Those were HER words.
That’s how SHE chose to recall them.
That’s the way SHE chose to publish it publically.



Is it racist or statistically proven?

Home-Ownership in the United States

Even if we want to assume that he likes the idea of limiting voting (which - HI, HOW IS ANYONE NOT OUTRAGED BY THIS IN AND OF ITSELF??) by property ownership, that's still a belief that should not be held by anyone in our goverment which is supposed to be FOR the people.

But this is how we're taking our news now, apparently. If it doesn't totally support what we already believe we won't even read it. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



No, I think when articles are posted in Huff Po, NYT or stories are put out on CNN and time and time again are exposed for half truths and their spin, I think you get a little tired of continuing to read it. ( Which before I get flamed, I've watched and read over and over again to see their side. CNN on election night was particularly interesting to say the least , but I digress..)

I could also post links from Breitbart and comments from other people saying he isn't anti semetic or a racist , including Alan Dershowitz, but would you read those? I'm sorry, I don't believe even half of anything the NYT states anymore. This to me is a total reach. Just like, how interesting is it that now that the election is over, all of Gloria Allred's clients have suddenly stopped coming forward on a daily basis? So now that he's won, they will just bash all of his picks.



YES, I would and I do read from EVERYWHERE.

Because I will not limit the information I receive. Because I am not too arrogant to realize there is slant. Because I want to be informed, not just be 'right'. Becuase I will not be ignorant.

But are you kidding me with Breitbart?? Is his OWN PUBLICATION going to say he's a neo-nazi? I mean come on with that.. but I have read it and will continue to do so just to find the truth in the middle.

It is absolutely terrifying how people refuse to take in anything negative about Trump's camp.

And honestly, moreso about the Times than the rest - there's slant, sure. But it's not fiction.

As a society, we really deserve what we get with these monsters because we're all so ignorant, arrogant and downright foolish nowadays. We don't believe anything anymore unless it's exactly what we want to hear. Terrifying.



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I also wanted to get Trump supporters views so I now read the Breibart posts on FB. They are 100% one-sided as are the comments under each post.



You are absolutely correct and it's very much like when I read Huff Po. That was my point.

Posted 12/2/16 1:54 PM
 

stinger
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Re: Thoughts on this re: Steve Bannon

Posted by Summergirl

Posted by stinger

Posted by eroxgirl

Posted by Summergirl

Posted by eroxgirl

Posted by Xelindrya

I'm not reading this..
Because I think it's bullsh!t. Why.. here's why. Because to believe this you would have to believe the author, yes?

So for me to believe the author, I would have to believe in her character. Her own words were “I said, ‘That would exclude a lot of African-Americans,’” Ms. Jones recalled. So that means to me that she is racist. Why would anyone think that African-Americans would be excluded for property ownership? Not just excluded but as in her first thought as if that’s a fact? Enough to be a factor in voting. Not just some but a “LOT” of.

So you want me to believe a racist calling out another person?

I won’t say he is or isn’t. Nor do I think he’s innocent of implying these things at other times or whatever. I wasn’t there. But her choice of words for recollection (as shown here) makes me not want to read a single word more. And not want to believe a single thing.

Those were HER words.
That’s how SHE chose to recall them.
That’s the way SHE chose to publish it publically.



Is it racist or statistically proven?

Home-Ownership in the United States

Even if we want to assume that he likes the idea of limiting voting (which - HI, HOW IS ANYONE NOT OUTRAGED BY THIS IN AND OF ITSELF??) by property ownership, that's still a belief that should not be held by anyone in our goverment which is supposed to be FOR the people.

But this is how we're taking our news now, apparently. If it doesn't totally support what we already believe we won't even read it. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



No, I think when articles are posted in Huff Po, NYT or stories are put out on CNN and time and time again are exposed for half truths and their spin, I think you get a little tired of continuing to read it. ( Which before I get flamed, I've watched and read over and over again to see their side. CNN on election night was particularly interesting to say the least , but I digress..)

I could also post links from Breitbart and comments from other people saying he isn't anti semetic or a racist , including Alan Dershowitz, but would you read those? I'm sorry, I don't believe even half of anything the NYT states anymore. This to me is a total reach. Just like, how interesting is it that now that the election is over, all of Gloria Allred's clients have suddenly stopped coming forward on a daily basis? So now that he's won, they will just bash all of his picks.



YES, I would and I do read from EVERYWHERE.

Because I will not limit the information I receive. Because I am not too arrogant to realize there is slant. Because I want to be informed, not just be 'right'. Becuase I will not be ignorant.

But are you kidding me with Breitbart?? Is his OWN PUBLICATION going to say he's a neo-nazi? I mean come on with that.. but I have read it and will continue to do so just to find the truth in the middle.

It is absolutely terrifying how people refuse to take in anything negative about Trump's camp.

And honestly, moreso about the Times than the rest - there's slant, sure. But it's not fiction.

As a society, we really deserve what we get with these monsters because we're all so ignorant, arrogant and downright foolish nowadays. We don't believe anything anymore unless it's exactly what we want to hear. Terrifying.



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I also wanted to get Trump supporters views so I now read the Breibart posts on FB. They are 100% one-sided as are the comments under each post.



You are absolutely correct and it's very much like when I read Huff Po. That was my point.



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Posted 12/2/16 2:21 PM
 

chilltocam
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Re: Thoughts on this re: Steve Bannon

Posted by Xelindrya

Posted by stinger

Posted by eroxgirl

Posted by Summergirl

Posted by eroxgirl

Posted by Xelindrya

I'm not reading this..
Because I think it's bullsh!t. Why.. here's why. Because to believe this you would have to believe the author, yes?

So for me to believe the author, I would have to believe in her character. Her own words were “I said, ‘That would exclude a lot of African-Americans,’” Ms. Jones recalled. So that means to me that she is racist. Why would anyone think that African-Americans would be excluded for property ownership? Not just excluded but as in her first thought as if that’s a fact? Enough to be a factor in voting. Not just some but a “LOT” of.

So you want me to believe a racist calling out another person?

I won’t say he is or isn’t. Nor do I think he’s innocent of implying these things at other times or whatever. I wasn’t there. But her choice of words for recollection (as shown here) makes me not want to read a single word more. And not want to believe a single thing.

Those were HER words.
That’s how SHE chose to recall them.
That’s the way SHE chose to publish it publically.



Is it racist or statistically proven?

Home-Ownership in the United States

Even if we want to assume that he likes the idea of limiting voting (which - HI, HOW IS ANYONE NOT OUTRAGED BY THIS IN AND OF ITSELF??) by property ownership, that's still a belief that should not be held by anyone in our goverment which is supposed to be FOR the people.

But this is how we're taking our news now, apparently. If it doesn't totally support what we already believe we won't even read it. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



No, I think when articles are posted in Huff Po, NYT or stories are put out on CNN and time and time again are exposed for half truths and their spin, I think you get a little tired of continuing to read it. ( Which before I get flamed, I've watched and read over and over again to see their side. CNN on election night was particularly interesting to say the least , but I digress..)

I could also post links from Breitbart and comments from other people saying he isn't anti semetic or a racist , including Alan Dershowitz, but would you read those? I'm sorry, I don't believe even half of anything the NYT states anymore. This to me is a total reach. Just like, how interesting is it that now that the election is over, all of Gloria Allred's clients have suddenly stopped coming forward on a daily basis? So now that he's won, they will just bash all of his picks.



YES, I would and I do read from EVERYWHERE.

Because I will not limit the information I receive. Because I am not too arrogant to realize there is slant. Because I want to be informed, not just be 'right'. Becuase I will not be ignorant.

But are you kidding me with Breitbart?? Is his OWN PUBLICATION going to say he's a neo-nazi? I mean come on with that.. but I have read it and will continue to do so just to find the truth in the middle.

It is absolutely terrifying how people refuse to take in anything negative about Trump's camp.

And honestly, moreso about the Times than the rest - there's slant, sure. But it's not fiction.

As a society, we really deserve what we get with these monsters because we're all so ignorant, arrogant and downright foolish nowadays. We don't believe anything anymore unless it's exactly what we want to hear. Terrifying.



Chat Icon

I also wanted to get Trump supporters views so I now read the Breibart posts on FB. They are 100% one-sided as are the comments under each post.



This isn't about supporting Trump
*sigh*

I said he was dirty in every post.
*MY* message was *SHE* was racist

are you saying THAT is ok??!??

is everyone ok with that?

I'm not reading a racist's point of view on ANYTHING period. Why give her any validation? Isn't that how it all starts to go downward.

I said he can start his own sauna
I called him dirty

I have repeatedly said I voted for Bernie but couldn't vote for Hilary. So that lumps me into Supporting Trump boo-hoo. This is why we have issues in this country. Its not all black and white.

WE NEEDED BETTER CHOICES!

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You discounted the entire article without even knowing whether the person you affirmatively state is a racist was basing her statement on known facts. You automatically assumed SHE is a racist, with ZERO factual basis for your statement.

Yet, you seem to have little concern that a man who will have THE PRESIDENT's ear on a daily basis is making BLATANTLY STRAIGTHFORWARD RACIST STATEMENTS! Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

I don't care who you voted for or who you supported, you are coming across as someone who will defend something that is so wrong just for the sake of defending it - when there should be NO argument that Bannon's statement is disgusting!

Posted 12/2/16 2:46 PM
 

Xelindrya
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Re: Thoughts on this re: Steve Bannon

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by Xelindrya

Posted by stinger

Posted by eroxgirl

Posted by Summergirl

Posted by eroxgirl

Posted by Xelindrya

I'm not reading this..
Because I think it's bullsh!t. Why.. here's why. Because to believe this you would have to believe the author, yes?

So for me to believe the author, I would have to believe in her character. Her own words were “I said, ‘That would exclude a lot of African-Americans,’” Ms. Jones recalled. So that means to me that she is racist. Why would anyone think that African-Americans would be excluded for property ownership? Not just excluded but as in her first thought as if that’s a fact? Enough to be a factor in voting. Not just some but a “LOT” of.

So you want me to believe a racist calling out another person?

I won’t say he is or isn’t. Nor do I think he’s innocent of implying these things at other times or whatever. I wasn’t there. But her choice of words for recollection (as shown here) makes me not want to read a single word more. And not want to believe a single thing.

Those were HER words.
That’s how SHE chose to recall them.
That’s the way SHE chose to publish it publically.



Is it racist or statistically proven?

Home-Ownership in the United States

Even if we want to assume that he likes the idea of limiting voting (which - HI, HOW IS ANYONE NOT OUTRAGED BY THIS IN AND OF ITSELF??) by property ownership, that's still a belief that should not be held by anyone in our goverment which is supposed to be FOR the people.

But this is how we're taking our news now, apparently. If it doesn't totally support what we already believe we won't even read it. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



No, I think when articles are posted in Huff Po, NYT or stories are put out on CNN and time and time again are exposed for half truths and their spin, I think you get a little tired of continuing to read it. ( Which before I get flamed, I've watched and read over and over again to see their side. CNN on election night was particularly interesting to say the least , but I digress..)

I could also post links from Breitbart and comments from other people saying he isn't anti semetic or a racist , including Alan Dershowitz, but would you read those? I'm sorry, I don't believe even half of anything the NYT states anymore. This to me is a total reach. Just like, how interesting is it that now that the election is over, all of Gloria Allred's clients have suddenly stopped coming forward on a daily basis? So now that he's won, they will just bash all of his picks.



YES, I would and I do read from EVERYWHERE.

Because I will not limit the information I receive. Because I am not too arrogant to realize there is slant. Because I want to be informed, not just be 'right'. Becuase I will not be ignorant.

But are you kidding me with Breitbart?? Is his OWN PUBLICATION going to say he's a neo-nazi? I mean come on with that.. but I have read it and will continue to do so just to find the truth in the middle.

It is absolutely terrifying how people refuse to take in anything negative about Trump's camp.

And honestly, moreso about the Times than the rest - there's slant, sure. But it's not fiction.

As a society, we really deserve what we get with these monsters because we're all so ignorant, arrogant and downright foolish nowadays. We don't believe anything anymore unless it's exactly what we want to hear. Terrifying.



Chat Icon

I also wanted to get Trump supporters views so I now read the Breibart posts on FB. They are 100% one-sided as are the comments under each post.



This isn't about supporting Trump
*sigh*

I said he was dirty in every post.
*MY* message was *SHE* was racist

are you saying THAT is ok??!??

is everyone ok with that?

I'm not reading a racist's point of view on ANYTHING period. Why give her any validation? Isn't that how it all starts to go downward.

I said he can start his own sauna
I called him dirty

I have repeatedly said I voted for Bernie but couldn't vote for Hilary. So that lumps me into Supporting Trump boo-hoo. This is why we have issues in this country. Its not all black and white.

WE NEEDED BETTER CHOICES!

Chat Icon



You discounted the entire article without even knowing whether the person you affirmatively state is a racist was basing her statement on known facts. You automatically assumed SHE is a racist, with ZERO factual basis for your statement.

Yet, you seem to have little concern that a man who will have THE PRESIDENT's ear on a daily basis is making BLATANTLY STRAIGTHFORWARD RACIST STATEMENTS! Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

I don't care who you voted for or who you supported, you are coming across as someone who will defend something that is so wrong just for the sake of defending it - when there should be NO argument that Bannon's statement is disgusting!



DEFEND it?
are you kidding.. I called him dirty and all but a smoking steaming pile of crap

that's defending him?
Man if that's what you call your friends why bother having enemies!

I actually agree that being racist is wrong, period. I don't even need to bother to prove that because *I* never think to go to calling anyone by a hyphenated status to begin with.

But to say I defend him because I'm saying the speaker of this stupidity is a racist is a stretch. Especially after I made sure to say he was dirty in each of my two stand alone statements and actually in each statement thereafter.

#1 I wasn't there to hear the words so you are 100% I have NO FACTUAL basis
#2 I never once said I am ok or agree with the statements he's made
#3 I can't speak to the words she implies because I already admit I didn't the article and explained why.

I'm not going to be baited into some petty argument that I am for Bannon or any one who is racist. Because that's crazy. I don't need to try to justify myself. Are we becoming so crazy that we have to start a McCarthy era witch hunt in reverse? Are you looking for racist in every corner? Do we have to start showing our allegiances to our beliefs (are you pro-choice, who did you vote for? are you a vegan, do you recycle, did you vote at all? for or against death penalty? for or against the wall?) and be classified into cute little categories that define who we are and therefore how we feel about every little thing?

I said I don't trust this woman based on what she said. I mean it.

I didn't even care who posted her story. NYT or the Enquirer. I stand by my opinion as is my AMERICAN right to do so. But that does NOT mean I'm just blasé about the entire damned government!

That's a heck of a leap!

Posted 12/2/16 2:58 PM
 

eroxgirl
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Re: Thoughts on this re: Steve Bannon

Posted by Summergirl

Posted by eroxgirl

Posted by Summergirl

Posted by eroxgirl

Posted by Xelindrya

I'm not reading this..
Because I think it's bullsh!t. Why.. here's why. Because to believe this you would have to believe the author, yes?

So for me to believe the author, I would have to believe in her character. Her own words were “I said, ‘That would exclude a lot of African-Americans,’” Ms. Jones recalled. So that means to me that she is racist. Why would anyone think that African-Americans would be excluded for property ownership? Not just excluded but as in her first thought as if that’s a fact? Enough to be a factor in voting. Not just some but a “LOT” of.

So you want me to believe a racist calling out another person?

I won’t say he is or isn’t. Nor do I think he’s innocent of implying these things at other times or whatever. I wasn’t there. But her choice of words for recollection (as shown here) makes me not want to read a single word more. And not want to believe a single thing.

Those were HER words.
That’s how SHE chose to recall them.
That’s the way SHE chose to publish it publically.



Is it racist or statistically proven?

Home-Ownership in the United States

Even if we want to assume that he likes the idea of limiting voting (which - HI, HOW IS ANYONE NOT OUTRAGED BY THIS IN AND OF ITSELF??) by property ownership, that's still a belief that should not be held by anyone in our goverment which is supposed to be FOR the people.

But this is how we're taking our news now, apparently. If it doesn't totally support what we already believe we won't even read it. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



No, I think when articles are posted in Huff Po, NYT or stories are put out on CNN and time and time again are exposed for half truths and their spin, I think you get a little tired of continuing to read it. ( Which before I get flamed, I've watched and read over and over again to see their side. CNN on election night was particularly interesting to say the least , but I digress..)

I could also post links from Breitbart and comments from other people saying he isn't anti semetic or a racist , including Alan Dershowitz, but would you read those? I'm sorry, I don't believe even half of anything the NYT states anymore. This to me is a total reach. Just like, how interesting is it that now that the election is over, all of Gloria Allred's clients have suddenly stopped coming forward on a daily basis? So now that he's won, they will just bash all of his picks.



YES, I would and I do read from EVERYWHERE.

Because I will not limit the information I receive. Because I am not too arrogant to realize there is slant. Because I want to be informed, not just be 'right'. Becuase I will not be ignorant.

But are you kidding me with Breitbart?? Is his OWN PUBLICATION going to say he's a neo-nazi? I mean come on with that.. but I have read it and will continue to do so just to find the truth in the middle.

It is absolutely terrifying how people refuse to take in anything negative about Trump's camp.

And honestly, moreso about the Times than the rest - there's slant, sure. But it's not fiction.

As a society, we really deserve what we get with these monsters because we're all so ignorant, arrogant and downright foolish nowadays. We don't believe anything anymore unless it's exactly what we want to hear. Terrifying.



Ok, if you read the rest of my comment below you would understand that you are not the only who takes your information from everywhere. I only posted about Breitbart, because I feel like the opposite of Breitbart is Huff Po. and people are posting stories left and right on here from there, as if they are a legitimate source.

I also said I could post comments from other people including Alan Dershowitz which you didn't acknowledge because you went on your tirade because you couldn't see past the Breitbart comment, though misunderstood my point. . I don't need to be right. So sorry to burst your bubble but Breitbart is NOT where I get my news. And this is why I'm done with responding to you because once again those who scream how educated and tolerant they are in one breath, don't really read, then bash and name call.This is why you don't hear Trump supporters respond to the ridiculous baited questions. Have a wonderful day.



You sure know a lot about what I did sitting at my computer without you anywhere near me at all. Chat Icon

And you sure read into a LOT of what I said. Did I mention education? Did I call you names? Did I bash you??? Seriously I've never encountered so many delicate people in my life. A difference of opinion is not bullying.

Also, your tone is downright hostile and aggressive. I didn't speak to you in that manner, and I've rarely ever spoken to anyone on these boards in that manner. I'd appreciate the same respect.

For clarification, I couldn't see past the "would you read those?" portion of your comment, because you clearly implied that I only get my news from the left. I do not. I haven't finished researching the rest of the what you wrote, because that's what I do. Except I'm at work so I have a job to do first.

While you're up there on your high horse, try not to be a hypocrite, okay? You look kind of foolish... Chat Icon

Have a nice day! Chat Icon

Posted 12/2/16 3:04 PM
 

chilltocam
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Member since 11/11

9141 total posts

Name:

Re: Thoughts on this re: Steve Bannon

Posted by Xelindrya

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by Xelindrya

Posted by stinger

Posted by eroxgirl

Posted by Summergirl

Posted by eroxgirl

Posted by Xelindrya

I'm not reading this..
Because I think it's bullsh!t. Why.. here's why. Because to believe this you would have to believe the author, yes?

So for me to believe the author, I would have to believe in her character. Her own words were “I said, ‘That would exclude a lot of African-Americans,’” Ms. Jones recalled. So that means to me that she is racist. Why would anyone think that African-Americans would be excluded for property ownership? Not just excluded but as in her first thought as if that’s a fact? Enough to be a factor in voting. Not just some but a “LOT” of.

So you want me to believe a racist calling out another person?

I won’t say he is or isn’t. Nor do I think he’s innocent of implying these things at other times or whatever. I wasn’t there. But her choice of words for recollection (as shown here) makes me not want to read a single word more. And not want to believe a single thing.

Those were HER words.
That’s how SHE chose to recall them.
That’s the way SHE chose to publish it publically.



Is it racist or statistically proven?

Home-Ownership in the United States

Even if we want to assume that he likes the idea of limiting voting (which - HI, HOW IS ANYONE NOT OUTRAGED BY THIS IN AND OF ITSELF??) by property ownership, that's still a belief that should not be held by anyone in our goverment which is supposed to be FOR the people.

But this is how we're taking our news now, apparently. If it doesn't totally support what we already believe we won't even read it. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



No, I think when articles are posted in Huff Po, NYT or stories are put out on CNN and time and time again are exposed for half truths and their spin, I think you get a little tired of continuing to read it. ( Which before I get flamed, I've watched and read over and over again to see their side. CNN on election night was particularly interesting to say the least , but I digress..)

I could also post links from Breitbart and comments from other people saying he isn't anti semetic or a racist , including Alan Dershowitz, but would you read those? I'm sorry, I don't believe even half of anything the NYT states anymore. This to me is a total reach. Just like, how interesting is it that now that the election is over, all of Gloria Allred's clients have suddenly stopped coming forward on a daily basis? So now that he's won, they will just bash all of his picks.



YES, I would and I do read from EVERYWHERE.

Because I will not limit the information I receive. Because I am not too arrogant to realize there is slant. Because I want to be informed, not just be 'right'. Becuase I will not be ignorant.

But are you kidding me with Breitbart?? Is his OWN PUBLICATION going to say he's a neo-nazi? I mean come on with that.. but I have read it and will continue to do so just to find the truth in the middle.

It is absolutely terrifying how people refuse to take in anything negative about Trump's camp.

And honestly, moreso about the Times than the rest - there's slant, sure. But it's not fiction.

As a society, we really deserve what we get with these monsters because we're all so ignorant, arrogant and downright foolish nowadays. We don't believe anything anymore unless it's exactly what we want to hear. Terrifying.



Chat Icon

I also wanted to get Trump supporters views so I now read the Breibart posts on FB. They are 100% one-sided as are the comments under each post.



This isn't about supporting Trump
*sigh*

I said he was dirty in every post.
*MY* message was *SHE* was racist

are you saying THAT is ok??!??

is everyone ok with that?

I'm not reading a racist's point of view on ANYTHING period. Why give her any validation? Isn't that how it all starts to go downward.

I said he can start his own sauna
I called him dirty

I have repeatedly said I voted for Bernie but couldn't vote for Hilary. So that lumps me into Supporting Trump boo-hoo. This is why we have issues in this country. Its not all black and white.

WE NEEDED BETTER CHOICES!

Chat Icon



You discounted the entire article without even knowing whether the person you affirmatively state is a racist was basing her statement on known facts. You automatically assumed SHE is a racist, with ZERO factual basis for your statement.

Yet, you seem to have little concern that a man who will have THE PRESIDENT's ear on a daily basis is making BLATANTLY STRAIGTHFORWARD RACIST STATEMENTS! Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

I don't care who you voted for or who you supported, you are coming across as someone who will defend something that is so wrong just for the sake of defending it - when there should be NO argument that Bannon's statement is disgusting!



DEFEND it?
are you kidding.. I called him dirty and all but a smoking steaming pile of crap

that's defending him?
Man if that's what you call your friends why bother having enemies!

I actually agree that being racist is wrong, period. I don't even need to bother to prove that because *I* never think to go to calling anyone by a hyphenated status to begin with.

But to say I defend him because I'm saying the speaker of this stupidity is a racist is a stretch. Especially after I made sure to say he was dirty in each of my two stand alone statements and actually in each statement thereafter.

#1 I wasn't there to hear the words so you are 100% I have NO FACTUAL basis
#2 I never once said I am ok or agree with the statements he's made
#3 I can't speak to the words she implies because I already admit I didn't the article and explained why.

I'm not going to be baited into some petty argument that I am for Bannon or any one who is racist. Because that's crazy. I don't need to try to justify myself. Are we becoming so crazy that we have to start a McCarthy era witch hunt in reverse? Are you looking for racist in every corner? Do we have to start showing our allegiances to our beliefs (are you pro-choice, who did you vote for? are you a vegan, do you recycle, did you vote at all? for or against death penalty? for or against the wall?) and be classified into cute little categories that define who we are and therefore how we feel about every little thing?

I said I don't trust this woman based on what she said. I mean it.

I didn't even care who posted her story. NYT or the Enquirer. I stand by my opinion as is my AMERICAN right to do so. But that does NOT mean I'm just blasé about the entire damned government!

That's a heck of a leap!



Sorry, but no - you don't get to say "I won’t say he is or isn’t. Nor do I think he’s innocent of implying these things at other times or whatever" and call him "dirty - just like any other politician" and think you are calling him out for the disgusting things he said. He is NOT "just like every other politician." He didn't IMPLY anything - he outright SAID IT! He's not just like any other "dirty politician" - HE HAS MADE OUTRIGHT RACIST COMMENTS THAT HAVE NO PLACE IN OUR WHITE HOUSE. So, your meek, wishy washy "admission" that he "is or he isn't" or that he has IMPLIED things, does not get you off the hook for not completely denouncing what HE (a person who will have OUR president's ear every day) said. Your sole focus was on what someone else said. And as you have admitted, you have no idea if her statement was factual -yet that's what you hang your hat on to avoid denouncing what he said

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Posted 12/2/16 3:20 PM
 

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I'm not reading this..
Because I think it's bullsh!t. Why.. here's why. Because to believe this you would have to believe the author, yes?

So for me to believe the author, I would have to believe in her character. Her own words were “I said, ‘That would exclude a lot of African-Americans,’” Ms. Jones recalled. So that means to me that she is racist. Why would anyone think that African-Americans would be excluded for property ownership? Not just excluded but as in her first thought as if that’s a fact? Enough to be a factor in voting. Not just some but a “LOT” of.

So you want me to believe a racist calling out another person?

I won’t say he is or isn’t. Nor do I think he’s innocent of implying these things at other times or whatever. I wasn’t there. But her choice of words for recollection (as shown here) makes me not want to read a single word more. And not want to believe a single thing.

Those were HER words.
That’s how SHE chose to recall them.
That’s the way SHE chose to publish it publically.



Is it racist or statistically proven?

Home-Ownership in the United States

Even if we want to assume that he likes the idea of limiting voting (which - HI, HOW IS ANYONE NOT OUTRAGED BY THIS IN AND OF ITSELF??) by property ownership, that's still a belief that should not be held by anyone in our goverment which is supposed to be FOR the people.

But this is how we're taking our news now, apparently. If it doesn't totally support what we already believe we won't even read it. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



No, I think when articles are posted in Huff Po, NYT or stories are put out on CNN and time and time again are exposed for half truths and their spin, I think you get a little tired of continuing to read it. ( Which before I get flamed, I've watched and read over and over again to see their side. CNN on election night was particularly interesting to say the least , but I digress..)

I could also post links from Breitbart and comments from other people saying he isn't anti semetic or a racist , including Alan Dershowitz, but would you read those? I'm sorry, I don't believe even half of anything the NYT states anymore. This to me is a total reach. Just like, how interesting is it that now that the election is over, all of Gloria Allred's clients have suddenly stopped coming forward on a daily basis? So now that he's won, they will just bash all of his picks.



YES, I would and I do read from EVERYWHERE.

Because I will not limit the information I receive. Because I am not too arrogant to realize there is slant. Because I want to be informed, not just be 'right'. Becuase I will not be ignorant.

But are you kidding me with Breitbart?? Is his OWN PUBLICATION going to say he's a neo-nazi? I mean come on with that.. but I have read it and will continue to do so just to find the truth in the middle.

It is absolutely terrifying how people refuse to take in anything negative about Trump's camp.

And honestly, moreso about the Times than the rest - there's slant, sure. But it's not fiction.

As a society, we really deserve what we get with these monsters because we're all so ignorant, arrogant and downright foolish nowadays. We don't believe anything anymore unless it's exactly what we want to hear. Terrifying.



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I also wanted to get Trump supporters views so I now read the Breibart posts on FB. They are 100% one-sided as are the comments under each post.



This isn't about supporting Trump
*sigh*

I said he was dirty in every post.
*MY* message was *SHE* was racist

are you saying THAT is ok??!??

is everyone ok with that?

I'm not reading a racist's point of view on ANYTHING period. Why give her any validation? Isn't that how it all starts to go downward.

I said he can start his own sauna
I called him dirty

I have repeatedly said I voted for Bernie but couldn't vote for Hilary. So that lumps me into Supporting Trump boo-hoo. This is why we have issues in this country. Its not all black and white.

WE NEEDED BETTER CHOICES!

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You discounted the entire article without even knowing whether the person you affirmatively state is a racist was basing her statement on known facts. You automatically assumed SHE is a racist, with ZERO factual basis for your statement.

Yet, you seem to have little concern that a man who will have THE PRESIDENT's ear on a daily basis is making BLATANTLY STRAIGTHFORWARD RACIST STATEMENTS! Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

I don't care who you voted for or who you supported, you are coming across as someone who will defend something that is so wrong just for the sake of defending it - when there should be NO argument that Bannon's statement is disgusting!



DEFEND it?
are you kidding.. I called him dirty and all but a smoking steaming pile of crap

that's defending him?
Man if that's what you call your friends why bother having enemies!

I actually agree that being racist is wrong, period. I don't even need to bother to prove that because *I* never think to go to calling anyone by a hyphenated status to begin with.

But to say I defend him because I'm saying the speaker of this stupidity is a racist is a stretch. Especially after I made sure to say he was dirty in each of my two stand alone statements and actually in each statement thereafter.

#1 I wasn't there to hear the words so you are 100% I have NO FACTUAL basis
#2 I never once said I am ok or agree with the statements he's made
#3 I can't speak to the words she implies because I already admit I didn't the article and explained why.

I'm not going to be baited into some petty argument that I am for Bannon or any one who is racist. Because that's crazy. I don't need to try to justify myself. Are we becoming so crazy that we have to start a McCarthy era witch hunt in reverse? Are you looking for racist in every corner? Do we have to start showing our allegiances to our beliefs (are you pro-choice, who did you vote for? are you a vegan, do you recycle, did you vote at all? for or against death penalty? for or against the wall?) and be classified into cute little categories that define who we are and therefore how we feel about every little thing?

I said I don't trust this woman based on what she said. I mean it.

I didn't even care who posted her story. NYT or the Enquirer. I stand by my opinion as is my AMERICAN right to do so. But that does NOT mean I'm just blasé about the entire damned government!

That's a heck of a leap!



Boo hoo- A witch hunt for racists? I'm sorry, but yeah! Yeah, you're damn right I am! I AM on a witch hunt for racists. And sexists. And misogynists who want to take away OUR rights. And xenophobes. And homophobes. And NEO-NAZIS. ALWAYS. You're damn right I am.

As for not believing this woman, obviously no one knows for sure. But it altogether makes too much sense given what is known about that POS Bannon. So, I tend to believe it.

Posted 12/2/16 3:52 PM
 

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I'm so confused. Did everyone read the same article that I read? I thought it actually painted him in a pretty good light with the exception of one comment that I would not rely on, only because it's one person's word against another's.

I don't like him to referring to feminists as dykes from the seven sisters schools - I think that was completely inappropriate. But other than that I can't really find any direct publicly spoken quotes of his that make him anti-Semitic or racists.

And I have to be honest, some of the quotes (not in the case of bannon but in the case of a few others) were 20+ years ago. I'm sorry but a lot of people change their views in the course of 20 - 30 years time. Even my very right wing mother who used to be adamantly against gay marriage now supports it. I'm sure if you took a quote from her 10 years ago it would make her appear homophobic and anti-gay marriage. It doesn't mean people can't change.

Posted 12/2/16 4:22 PM
 

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I guess it's going to be a long 4 years for many. I guess as long as it was a long 8 years for the rest of us who did not care for Obama. Buckle up for the ride. Chat Icon

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Thoughts on this re: Steve Bannon

He will be impeached.

Posted 12/2/16 4:28 PM
 

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After making a call to my congresswoman last week I just received a copy of a letter from 12 congress members addressed to DJT urging him to rescind the appointment of Bannon.

At this point I don't even need to see facts...

Posted 12/2/16 5:00 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts on this re: Steve Bannon

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He will be impeached.



Please do tell

Posted 12/2/16 5:05 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts on this re: Steve Bannon

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And I have to be honest, some of the quotes (not in the case of bannon but in the case of a few others) were 20+ years ago. I'm sorry but a lot of people change their views in the course of 20 - 30 years time. Even my very right wing mother who used to be adamantly against gay marriage now supports it. I'm sure if you took a quote from her 10 years ago it would make her appear homophobic and anti-gay marriage. It doesn't mean people can't change.



I actually completely agree with this, however, I have to point out that Hillary Clinton was blasted time and time again this year in this election on this board for things she said 20 years ago.

While I don't recall you personally ever making such a comment and I'll even go so far as to say I'm confident you did not post anything like that at all, it's really hard to swallow now that it's going in the other direction.

Posted 12/2/16 5:08 PM
 

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Re: Thoughts on this re: Steve Bannon

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He will be impeached.



We can only hope.

Posted 12/2/16 5:19 PM
 

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And I have to be honest, some of the quotes (not in the case of bannon but in the case of a few others) were 20+ years ago. I'm sorry but a lot of people change their views in the course of 20 - 30 years time. Even my very right wing mother who used to be adamantly against gay marriage now supports it. I'm sure if you took a quote from her 10 years ago it would make her appear homophobic and anti-gay marriage. It doesn't mean people can't change.



I actually completely agree with this, however, I have to point out that Hillary Clinton was blasted time and time again this year in this election on this board for things she said 20 years ago.

While I don't recall you personally ever making such a comment and I'll even go so far as to say I'm confident you did not post anything like that at all, it's really hard to swallow now that it's going in the other direction.



No I have no idea anything that she said 20 years ago so I definitely did not post about her! I just think that people do change over time and frankly if you take a quote from anyone from 1986 it's highly likely that their views have changed from then to now. The whole world has evolved in an incredible way in the past 10, 20, 30 years and so have the mindsets of most people. Even think about the understanding of the transgender community in just the past year….

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