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Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
I have the Britax frontier 90 for my 6.5 year old and she wear it with the hi back and seat belt. However I have to say I'm less than impressed with this seat. She says it's extremely uncomfortable and she's right. The padding on the seat moves around so much. I just don't think it's as great as everyone says.
At that age what kind should I get? Any recommendations ?
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Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
I agree the bottom seat cover is all over the place
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| Posted 1/6/16 8:59 PM |
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ElizaRags35
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Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
http://csftl.org/recommended-seats/#highbackbooster
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mommy2B3
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Re: Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
We have the graco affix. It's great bc it's installed with latch instead of moving around after they unbuckle. My DS is also 90th percentile for height and the adjustable back support is perfect for him still at 7, I'm hoping to keep the back on as long as possible.
Edited: typed wrong name.
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KangaMom
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Re: Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
Our 6 y/o is in the Britax Frontier 85 Booster with the 5 point harness. No complaints..
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| Posted 1/7/16 10:15 AM |
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Re: Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
Posted by KangaMom
Our 6 y/o is in the Britax Frontier 85 Booster with the 5 point harness. No complaints..
When she was in the harness it was fine. I'm not loving it in the seatbelt mode
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| Posted 1/7/16 4:44 PM |
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Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
We have the Britax Pinnacle it has a lot more padding than the frontier. My kids love it.
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Lillykat
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Re: Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
We have the affix. My kids found it comfortable. It laches to the seat too. Very easy to move if needed.
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| Posted 1/7/16 9:58 PM |
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Re: Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
Posted by mommy2B3
We have the graco affix. It's great bc it's installed with latch instead of moving around after they unbuckle. My DS is also 90th percentile for height and the adjustable back support is perfect for him still at 7, I'm hoping to keep the back on as long as possible.
Edited: typed wrong name.
I don't understand that seat bc with the other seats all you hear about is "don't use latch and the seat belts at the same time". So how come in this case it's ok? I was looking at this seat bc we also have a sliding around problem.
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| Posted 1/8/16 8:37 AM |
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Re: Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
Posted by WonderLady
Posted by mommy2B3
We have the graco affix. It's great bc it's installed with latch instead of moving around after they unbuckle. My DS is also 90th percentile for height and the adjustable back support is perfect for him still at 7, I'm hoping to keep the back on as long as possible.
Edited: typed wrong name.
I don't understand that seat bc with the other seats all you hear about is "don't use latch and the seat belts at the same time". So how come in this case it's ok? I was looking at this seat bc we also have a sliding around problem.
I thought it was that you can't use the latch system on a seat that the seat is what is restraining the child (so the case of a 5 point harness booster) where the child is over the weight limit for the latch. But if you are using the latch system to just anchor the seat but using a seat belt to restrain the child not the harness then it's ok.
That is my understanding. Can anyone clarify
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Re: Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
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| Posted 1/8/16 10:30 AM |
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Lillykat
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Re: Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
Posted by WonderLady
Posted by mommy2B3
We have the graco affix. It's great bc it's installed with latch instead of moving around after they unbuckle. My DS is also 90th percentile for height and the adjustable back support is perfect for him still at 7, I'm hoping to keep the back on as long as possible.
Edited: typed wrong name.
I don't understand that seat bc with the other seats all you hear about is "don't use latch and the seat belts at the same time". So how come in this case it's ok? I was looking at this seat bc we also have a sliding around problem.
This is just a hook that holds the seat to the car, esp when the child is not in it. You cannot use latch and seat belts when using a 5 point harness. Also you don't use latch ver a certain weight with convertible seats. Two different things. In this case the seat is not holding the child in the seatbelt is. The booster is more like sitting on a pillow. It does not hold the child in, it simply raises them to allow the belt to work properly. I actually prefer that my seat is latches. The backless booster is attached to the seat and not a projectile. Also the kid is not sliding it is fixed to the seat.
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| Posted 1/8/16 12:15 PM |
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Re: Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
Posted by mommy2B3
We have the graco affix. It's great bc it's installed with latch instead of moving around after they unbuckle. My DS is also 90th percentile for height and the adjustable back support is perfect for him still at 7, I'm hoping to keep the back on as long as possible.
Edited: typed wrong name.
This is what we have too. DD is 8 and is still in it (we have the backless version though) I bought it when she was 6.5. We chose this one specifically because it had latch. DH drives alone a lot of the time and God forbid he got into an accident I didn't want DDs booster to be a flying object.
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| Posted 1/8/16 12:24 PM |
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ny55angel
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Re: Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
Posted by Lillykat
This is just a hook that holds the seat to the car, esp when the child is not in it. You cannot use latch and seat belts when using a 5 point harness. Also you don't use latch ver a certain weight with convertible seats. Two different things. In this case the seat is not holding the child in the seatbelt is. The booster is more like sitting on a pillow. It does not hold the child in, it simply raises them to allow the belt to work properly. I actually prefer that my seat is latches. The backless booster is attached to the seat and not a projectile. Also the kid is not sliding it is fixed to the seat.
^^^^^^ exactly this
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| Posted 1/8/16 12:52 PM |
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Re: Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
Posted by ny55angel
Posted by Lillykat
This is just a hook that holds the seat to the car, esp when the child is not in it. You cannot use latch and seat belts when using a 5 point harness. Also you don't use latch ver a certain weight with convertible seats. Two different things. In this case the seat is not holding the child in the seatbelt is. The booster is more like sitting on a pillow. It does not hold the child in, it simply raises them to allow the belt to work properly. I actually prefer that my seat is latches. The backless booster is attached to the seat and not a projectile. Also the kid is not sliding it is fixed to the seat.
^^^^^^ exactly this
I read something like the latch changes the dynamics during a crash and could interfere with the belt. There was one really long detailed Amazon review about it. I think on the high back affix. Idk. Parenthood is so stinking complicated.
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ny55angel
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Re: Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
Posted by WonderLady
Posted by ny55angel
Posted by Lillykat
This is just a hook that holds the seat to the car, esp when the child is not in it. You cannot use latch and seat belts when using a 5 point harness. Also you don't use latch ver a certain weight with convertible seats. Two different things. In this case the seat is not holding the child in the seatbelt is. The booster is more like sitting on a pillow. It does not hold the child in, it simply raises them to allow the belt to work properly. I actually prefer that my seat is latches. The backless booster is attached to the seat and not a projectile. Also the kid is not sliding it is fixed to the seat.
^^^^^^ exactly this
I read something like the latch changes the dynamics during a crash and could interfere with the belt. There was one really long detailed Amazon review about it. I think on the high back affix. Idk. Parenthood is so stinking complicated.
I just checked withe other techs, we're going to look into it more but no one has ever heard of that when in booster mode. That is the reasoning behind not using both when using in harness mode.
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| Posted 1/8/16 3:18 PM |
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Re: Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
Posted by ny55angel
Posted by WonderLady
Posted by ny55angel
Posted by Lillykat
This is just a hook that holds the seat to the car, esp when the child is not in it. You cannot use latch and seat belts when using a 5 point harness. Also you don't use latch ver a certain weight with convertible seats. Two different things. In this case the seat is not holding the child in the seatbelt is. The booster is more like sitting on a pillow. It does not hold the child in, it simply raises them to allow the belt to work properly. I actually prefer that my seat is latches. The backless booster is attached to the seat and not a projectile. Also the kid is not sliding it is fixed to the seat.
^^^^^^ exactly this
I read something like the latch changes the dynamics during a crash and could interfere with the belt. There was one really long detailed Amazon review about it. I think on the high back affix. Idk. Parenthood is so stinking complicated.
I just checked withe other techs, we're going to look into it more but no one has ever heard of that when in booster mode. That is the reasoning behind not using both when using in harness mode.
I'm going to find the review for you. It coulda been some schmoe just talking nonsense but it sounded fancy and technical so it freaked me out, lol
It was actually two reviews, I'm pasting them-
Huge Design Flaw
By Beanomly - March 28, 2013
Vine Customer Review of Free Product
I was a child passenger safety technician for 9 years so I have had experience with tons of different car seats and boosters. I am a big fan of latchable boosters and was very happy to see one come on the market with a lower price point. Unfortunately, this seat has a huge design flaw. The two LATCH attachments each have their own straps to pull to tighten them. They are placed one on top of the other with a single push button to release both. Problem is, the push button doesn't press tight enough to hold both straps tight so the side that runs on the bottom doesn't lock in place. The end result is that when you install the seat and tighten the LATCH attachments, one side stays tight, but if you pull gently on the other side, it will pull away from the vehicle seat about 5 inches. It is essentially the same as installing the booster with only one LATCH anchor, which most of us would never do because it isn't safe. How will this perform in a crash? Who knows? My guess is, when the child and the seat start to move forward (which they will before the seatbelts fully engage), the LATCH on one side will engage causing the seat to pivot toward that side which will put the child completely out of position behind the vehicle seatbelt. Or, it might function fine. Unfortunately, I'm not comfortable letting my child be Graco's crash test dummy.
I called Graco and the rep was absolutely useless. She just kept telling me the seat could be used without LATCH and that LATCH was only to make it easier for the child to buckle himself in and that the seatbelt is what holds the child in. I kept trying to explain that I knew the seatbelt held the child in, but that the crash dynamics can change when one side comes loose in a crash and the other doesn't and I guarantee Graco hasn't crash tested a seat with LATCH that is not functioning properly. I was very bothered when she went to talk to someone else and came back and sounded out the word "projectile" like it was something she had never heard. My level of faith in Graco and their customer service just went way down.
The other-
Using LATCH and the seatbelt at the same time is NOT advised in Graco Affix's Instruction Manual
By MH - June 30, 2014
I've been researching boosters and thought this was the best option because of the LATCH system until I was discussing its functionality with a booster/car seat sales clerk. Apparently, this booster hasn't been crashed tested with the LATCH system AND the seat belt used simultaneously. It's undetermined what would happen during a crash with both systems securing the seat (and the child), mostly due to oppositional forces from both anchoring systems. This is discussed in various car seat safety/baby product message boards, and using both simultaneously is not advised in the Graco Affix Instruction Manual on page 27.
Therefore, the great safety ratings only apply when this booster is fixed to the car only with the seat belt, which seems to defeat the purpose of the using the LATCH system AT ALL TIMES. Apparently, what you're supposed to do is unlatch the LATCH system completely whenever your child is sitting in the car seat and rely only on the seat belt to secure them and the booster. The LATCH system is only used to secure the booster and keep it from sliding around when a child is not in it. Wow, what a lot of extra work, undoing and reconnecting the LATCH system every time your kid gets in the seat.
I've read that you could use the LATCH system at all times but keep it VERY loose, such that if you were in a crash with a child in the booster, only the seat belt would affect the booster and the child. In this case, if the child wasn't in the booster, the LATCH system would only keep the booster from becoming a projectile and it would just slide around 5-6" with the loose tethers.
I guess I'm just wondering why this booster wasn't tested using both the LATCH system and the seat belt in the first place? Really, what's the point of having the LATCH if it's just a hassle to use and renders the booster "dangerous" or "untested" if used--as most parents would assume to be an extra safety feature--with the seat belt? If anyone knows more about this, chime in. Based on a reading a good number of reviews, this hasn't been mentioned when it is probably the most important issue when buying this booster being that most of us are looking at it because it has the LATCH system, which, we assume, to mean greater safety.
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ny55angel
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Re: Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
I'd she was a tech for 9 years she should know that customer service is there to read off a script for answers and she should have asked for a technician.
I personally don't have experience with the affix but I will ask about the release. My opinion though is that the seatbelt is going to lock upon crash because the retractor will engage. A properly functioning seatbelt will not take long to engage, certainly not for a child to move inches like being described.
As far as the 2nd review - page 27 of the affix manual states the following -- Use the vehicles lap AND shoulder belt system when restraining the child in the booster seat. AFFIX connectors are ONLY to secure the booster seat to the vehicle seat. When using the AFFIX connectors DO NOT place booster seat off-center of the vehicle anchors.
So - using both IS advised, it is saying TO use the seatbelt for the child that the anchors are only to secure it to the seat. Then it is saying that if there are an off center set of anchors (which they usually are in 3 row vehicles ) that the lower anchors can not be used (since they need to be used straight on and not at an angle)
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| Posted 1/9/16 2:43 PM |
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mommy2B3
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Re: Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
Posted by ny55angel
I'd she was a tech for 9 years she should know that customer service is there to read off a script for answers and she should have asked for a technician.
I personally don't have experience with the affix but I will ask about the release. My opinion though is that the seatbelt is going to lock upon crash because the retractor will engage. A properly functioning seatbelt will not take long to engage, certainly not for a child to move inches like being described.
As far as the 2nd review - page 27 of the affix manual states the following -- Use the vehicles lap AND shoulder belt system when restraining the child in the booster seat. AFFIX connectors are ONLY to secure the booster seat to the vehicle seat. When using the AFFIX connectors DO NOT place booster seat off-center of the vehicle anchors.
So - using both IS advised, it is saying TO use the seatbelt for the child that the anchors are only to secure it to the seat. Then it is saying that if there are an off center set of anchors (which they usually are in 3 row vehicles ) that the lower anchors can not be used (since they need to be used straight on and not at an angle)
Thank you so much for this, I started to freak out a bit since I thought I did my research before I bought it, but it's hard to be sure. We haven't seen the release button do what the above person stated, so maybe they had an older model.
But I didn't know about that off center anchor and I'm not sure if the odyssey in the 3rd row has that. I have my 2 older kids in the 3rd row on opposite sides. I'm going to go look at anchor spots now, thanks.
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| Posted 1/9/16 3:29 PM |
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ny55angel
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Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
The odyssey has lower anchors in the third row for the passenger and drivers side exclusively. So you don't need to worry. You're good.
The techs that answered me all said the same or slight variations of what I did above. Also if the mechanism had crumbs stuck in it, the anchor belt had a kink or twist or some other oddity, that could also cause that.
That's why it's recommended and beSt to periodically check over your seats to be sure that everything is functioning properly. And if something like that happens to call the manufacturer ASAP
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| Posted 1/10/16 10:01 AM |
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Re: Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
Posted by ny55angel
The odyssey has lower anchors in the third row for the passenger and drivers side exclusively. So you don't need to worry. You're good.
The techs that answered me all said the same or slight variations of what I did above. Also if the mechanism had crumbs stuck in it, the anchor belt had a kink or twist or some other oddity, that could also cause that.
That's why it's recommended and beSt to periodically check over your seats to be sure that everything is functioning properly. And if something like that happens to call the manufacturer ASAP
Do you think it's actually more safe with the latch then? Or is the latch purely to keep the seat from moving around?
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| Posted 1/10/16 10:39 AM |
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ny55angel
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Booster seat for a 6-7 year old
It's purely to keep the seat from being a projectile in a short stop/crash when unoccupied. Otherwise the seat needs to be buckled even when unoccupied
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