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Re: More priest molestation charges
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There's even a movement among some Catholics to let priests marry and have familys, since it's not "The Word of God" that dictates they be celibate, it was a Vatican I mandate to help the priests "focus on the vocation."
This is a prime example of what I mean!
good job!
you have your facts a little mixed up
really?
the debate whether or not priests should marry is PARTLY due to biblical interpretation, like you said
However, the main part of the debate is the legal issues involved. The Catholic Church takes care of the priests financially. If you start letting priests marry, you'll undoubtedly begin to get involved with divorces, families, estates, and all of that stuff. The Church doesn't want to be financially responsible for people outside of the priests.
I don't know how it works with Catholic Churches, but with our temple, the temple owns the house that the rabbi lives in. If the rabbi got divorced, his wife would not have any rights to the house b/c the temple owns it. I don't think the Church would be involved in the divorces just as an employer is not really involved in the divorces of employees except perhaps to disclose the employees' financial records and perhaps garnish wages.
I'd be surprised if the Catholic Church bgean allowing priests to marry. I don't see the Church changing its policies any time soon.
This is right. The priests don't own the property, so their heirs have zero right to it. Otherwise family members of the pope would be laying claim to Vatican artifacts when ever one passes away while still sitting. I've spoken at length to a priest on the not being able to marry issue and he said it really comes down to Vatican I. But maybe he's getting his facts wrong.
And I don't see them making radical changes, but I think that they see they need to make some changes in order to hold onto their congregation in the industrialized world. There has been real growth in the church in 3rd world countries, but a decline in most other areas of the world.
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Re: More priest molestation charges
No, it does not but I think the lack of any sexual contact IMO has a lot to do with it.
Pedophilia -the raping and molesting of children- has nothing to do with sexual deprivation and urgencies. Marriage won't cure pedophilia just as it doesn't cure affairs. You're talking apples and oranges.
You are right, but IMO it can be associated. I don't know....the whoe thigs is just sick & sad.
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Re: More priest molestation charges
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They should just allow them to get married and have normal relationships!
AMEN to that!!!
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Re: More priest molestation charges
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No, it does not but I think the lack of any sexual contact IMO has a lot to do with it.
Pedophilia -the raping and molesting of children- has nothing to do with sexual deprivation and urgencies. Marriage won't cure pedophilia just as it doesn't cure affairs. You're talking apples and oranges.
You are right, but IMO it can be associated. I don't know....the whoe thigs is just sick & sad.
Saying that means that any of us are capable of raping children when we aren't "getting any" at home. I'm sorry - I'm not looking to argue - I just don't see the connection...and I think it's dangerous to say there is. (It's that same philosophy that the church uses against having gay priests...imo.)
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Re: More priest molestation charges
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whatttt?!?!
THAT is exactly why I don't attend mass anymore.
no offense nic, but the actions of a sick few, is not indicative of the ENTIRE catholic church.
If you got food poisoning from McDonald's, would you condemn all McDonald's everywhere?
No, I'm talking about the money comment.
AND every priest at my church gives a "money homily" every week.
I can't take it anymore, I don't attend.
I am very much a Catholic - but I just DON'T agree with many decisions the institution of the church makes.
if you don't like your church, switch churches
and if you don't agree with MANY of the decisions, then perhaps you should evaluate which religion you want to follow
i mean, i disagree with a few, but not enough to consider switching
but, if there are many you disagree with, it's time to look elsewhere
sorry to be harsh, but this is a sore subject
I was raised Catholic and attended Catholic school for twelve years. I believe in several of the tenants of the religion but for various reasons, including the above, I have switched where I practice to a Unitarian Fellowship that is an inclusive religious community.
I also chose to give my charitable contributions directly. I still write a nice donation every year to my Catholic high school, give to a Catholic charity that helps single, young mothers but will NOT give to the general fund or church collection basket.
I have also had to decline relatives requests for charitable Church solicitations... Bishop's Annual Appeal etc.. I had to look at my sweet Uncle George in the eye and for the first time in my life have to say no to him.
Oh, and marriage will not cure it. People who molest children are sick. They would still be molesting children if they were married.
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LadyMaravilla
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Re: More priest molestation charges
You are right, but IMO it can be associated. I don't know....the whoe thigs is just sick & sad.
Saying that means that any of us are capable of raping children when we aren't "getting any" at home. I'm sorry - I'm not looking to argue - I just don't see the connection...and I think it's dangerous to say there is. (It's that same philosophy that the church uses against having gay priests...imo.)
I'm not saying it's conncted.
ETS: I think that if more priests were allowed to marry I don't think this would happen as often in the Catholic church. I'm not connecting the two, but I feel it can be associated, that's all.
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Re: More priest molestation charges
Posted by dpli
I am no expert but I think in the early days of the church, priests were allowed to be married. One of the reasons they took a vow of celibacy goes along with what Don said, and it had to do with heirs of the priest. I think the church was concerned with the family of priests inheriting property and assets that belonged to the church.
This too is what I read and heard...
It's very disheartening to hear that it all boils down to money, things, property...Aren't we suppose to believe these things don't go with us when we pass on.
and Yes...I understand the two circumstances are unrelated, but it's ashame that well respected priests have to leave the church that they love and respect if they end up falling in love or cannot be celibate because of a stupid man made law of the church.
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Re: More priest molestation charges
Posted by CaptainCharisma424
no offense nic, but the actions of a sick few, is not indicative of the ENTIRE catholic church.
If you got food poisoning from McDonald's, would you condemn all McDonald's everywhere?
I don't think that it is merely the act of a few sick Priests that is causing the majority of the problem. It is the lack of response by the Church. I would have a hard time listening to my religious leaders about how to uphold the laws of God when they can't even come clean about their own issuses.
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Re: More priest molestation charges
Posted by heidla
I don't think that it is merely the act of a few sick Priests that is causing the majority of the problem. It is the lack of response by the Church. I would have a hard time listening to my religious leaders about how to uphold the laws of God when they can't even come clean about their own issuses.
I see that as the greater issue as well. When you have Cardinal's perpetuating the problem by transferring pedophiliac priests around to cover up what they've done...how does one respect what they have to say? How do you reconcile the two? You have them preaching about the good and respect and love of God but they don't respect the innocent children being taken advantage of by pedophiles.
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