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Lymes Vaccination

Does your dog have the Lymes Vaccination?

If so, do you have your dog tested for Lymes an a regular basis?

Message edited 11/4/2007 9:24:21 PM.

Posted 11/4/07 3:03 PM
 
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Re: Lymes Vaccination

Funny you ask this!

I just got my dog tested for lyme the other day, b/c he is young and has been limping for no real reason.

He has not been vaccinated. So I asked my vet why. He said having the vaccine makes it very hard to test a dog for exposure should he become suspectedly exposed. B/c then the docs can't tell if they have been exposed or just the vaccine at work. And the vaccine doesn't always work...soo.....

Frontline and the tick collar are probably our best bets, as well as inpsecting our pets and keeping them out of areas in high risk. Vet also said dogs are much easier to treat than humans should theyr become infected.

So funny you ask this, I have been so worried about my dog. Luckily he came back negative so the limp is due to sprain most likely.

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Posted 11/5/07 12:38 AM
 

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Re: Lymes Vaccination

I give Misty all vaccinations including Lyme. I know that the dog can test false positive when they get the vaccine, but I walk her every day in woods and parks where there are deer and raccoon. She has picked up enough ticks for me to be concerned about Lyme disease. So, I use the vaccination along with Frontline.

Remember, although Lyme is easier to treat in a dog - it's almost impossible to tell they have it until it's very advanced. A dog isn't like a person who will tell you he/she doesn't feel good - the dog will hide symptoms as long as it can.

My opinion is that if you are going to expose the animal to the woods or other animals it's safer to do the vaccines than not. I know of one person who didn't give their dog the kennel cough vaccine and their dog died of kennel cough.Chat Icon

Posted 11/5/07 6:18 AM
 

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Re: Lymes Vaccination

we used to get all our dogs thier annual rabies& leptosperosis shots. Never got them thier Lymes disease shot. One day my sheltie was limping around, we thought she jumped off the deck instead of using the staris and landed wrong. I immediately took her to the vet. She had 103 fever. My vet tested for Lymes and she had it. I ofund a tick on her about a year before this and my vet said that could have done it. Lymes disease can harbour in the body for a long time before revealing any symptoms. SO now all my dogs get every shot imaginable and Frontline

Posted 11/5/07 7:41 AM
 

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Re: Lymes Vaccination

No my breeder asked me when I got her not to give her one. My vet doesn't really push it either.

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Posted 11/5/07 8:31 AM
 

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Re: Lymes Vaccination

Posted by luckysmom

we used to get all our dogs thier annual rabies& leptosperosis shots. Never got them thier Lymes disease shot. One day my sheltie was limping around, we thought she jumped off the deck instead of using the staris and landed wrong. I immediately took her to the vet. She had 103 fever. My vet tested for Lymes and she had it. I ofund a tick on her about a year before this and my vet said that could have done it. Lymes disease can harbour in the body for a long time before revealing any symptoms. SO now all my dogs get every shot imaginable and Frontline



Wow, thanks for sharing that story. So my suspicision was not odd when my dog was limping....

I do not live in a high risk area, and I don't take them to high risk areas. I should have mentioned that....that is probably more likely the reason that for us my vet felt it wasn't worth it.

That is probably a valuable peice of info, sorry I left that out! If I move (planning to) and it is more wooded, I guess I might consider it too as he said we will look at all the options then.

I did get the lepto b/c my vet said it has been found in our area.

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Posted 11/5/07 8:31 AM
 

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Re: Lymes Vaccination

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No my breeder asked me when I got her not to give her one. My vet doesn't really push it either.



Do you know why?

Posted 11/5/07 8:32 AM
 

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Re: Lymes Vaccination

Posted by Goobster

Posted by BlessedMommy

No my breeder asked me when I got her not to give her one. My vet doesn't really push it either.



Do you know why?



Potential secondary side effects--Lyme nephritis/poly arthritis and
titer interference.

Posted 11/5/07 8:36 AM
 

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Re: Lymes Vaccination

Posted by Gertyrae

I give Misty all vaccinations including Lyme. I know that the dog can test false positive when they get the vaccine, but I walk her every day in woods and parks where there are deer and raccoon. She has picked up enough ticks for me to be concerned about Lyme disease. So, I use the vaccination along with Frontline.

A dog isn't like a person who will tell you he/she doesn't feel good - the dog will hide symptoms as long as it can.



I agree about it being harder to tell if a dog has it...so true. And I should have said in my earlier post, my vet was probably mostly recommending not getting it for my dog b/c we are not in high risk areas (and he knows what animals come in for, his office is not far from us). So I agree with his reasoning for us. But we do plan to move to Suffolk, a more wooded area and he agreed then we can reevaulate the situation.

Can I ask you when you found the ticks, were you inspecting her? How hard/easy was it to see? How did you remove them? And do you inspect yourself like crazy in addition? Ticks and the mere thought of them/lyme really make me nervous.

Also, in your opinion, do you feel if you keep a dog in short grass and out of the woods, that the dog would be at a huge risk? I am really worried about this when we move to a more wooded area, although I don't plan to let them in the woods.

I agree in a case where the dog goes in teh woods, high risk areas by all means the vaccine is the way to go. Sorry if I did not make my post/vet's advice clearer!

And do you have any thoughts on the Preventix collar? Just curious on YO.

Thanks

Message edited 11/5/2007 8:43:01 AM.

Posted 11/5/07 8:37 AM
 

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Re: Lymes Vaccination

Posted by BlessedMommy

Posted by Goobster

Posted by BlessedMommy

No my breeder asked me when I got her not to give her one. My vet doesn't really push it either.



Do you know why?



Potential secondary side effects--Lyme nephritis/poly arthritis and
titer interference.



Well I knew the first part but the second part I am not sure if he said but I am sure that was his reason b/c he advocates all other vaccines, including heartworm protection year round, lepto and kennel cough.

Thanks

Message edited 11/5/2007 8:39:23 AM.

Posted 11/5/07 8:38 AM
 

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Re: Lymes Vaccination

This is definitely a vaccination to do your research on. Here's a link to an interesting article. This is nothing against anyone that has given their dog the vaccine already. Just another perspective....

Lyme Disease and Vaccination


The Lyme vaccine can cause an untreatable form of Lyme disease and, like all bacterial diseases, provides short term immunity. It is not recommended at any of the vet schools in the United States. The human Lyme vaccine was withdrawn from the market. For all the reasons, I think that it's best avoided. But I have one more, very compelling reason.

There are other tick borne diseases that are much more serious than Lyme, for which we have no vaccines. So even if a very safe and effective Lyme vaccine were developed for dogs, having your dog vaccinated for Lyme isn't going to lessen the need for tick prevention. So it's hard to make the risk vs. benefit analysis for Lyme vaccination come out on the benefit side, no matter how you work the math.

Message edited 11/5/2007 8:45:55 AM.

Posted 11/5/07 8:42 AM
 

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Re: Lymes Vaccination

Posted by BlessedMommy

This is definitely a vaccination to do your research on. Here's a link to an interesting article. This is nothing against anyone that has given their dog the vaccine already. Just another perspective....

Lyme Disease and Vaccination


The Lyme vaccine can cause an untreatable form of Lyme disease and, like all bacterial diseases, provides short term immunity. It is not recommended at any of the vet schools in the United States. The human Lyme vaccine was withdrawn from the market. For all the reasons, I think that it's best avoided. But I have one more, very compelling reason.

There are other tick borne diseases that are much more serious than Lyme, for which we have no vaccines. So even if a very safe and effective Lyme vaccine were developed for dogs, having your dog vaccinated for Lyme isn't going to lessen the need for tick prevention. So it's hard to make the risk vs. benefit analysis for Lyme vaccination come out on the benefit side, no matter how you work the math.




Wow that is some article. THANK YOU

Posted 11/5/07 8:47 AM
 

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Re: Lymes Vaccination

Posted by Goobster

Posted by luckysmom

we used to get all our dogs thier annual rabies& leptosperosis shots. Never got them thier Lymes disease shot. One day my sheltie was limping around, we thought she jumped off the deck instead of using the staris and landed wrong. I immediately took her to the vet. She had 103 fever. My vet tested for Lymes and she had it. I ofund a tick on her about a year before this and my vet said that could have done it. Lymes disease can harbour in the body for a long time before revealing any symptoms. SO now all my dogs get every shot imaginable and Frontline



Wow, thanks for sharing that story. So my suspicision was not odd when my dog was limping....

I do not live in a high risk area, and I don't take them to high risk areas. I should have mentioned that....that is probably more likely the reason that for us my vet felt it wasn't worth it.

That is probably a valuable peice of info, sorry I left that out! If I move (planning to) and it is more wooded, I guess I might consider it too as he said we will look at all the options then.

I did get the lepto b/c my vet said it has been found in our area.



Just be careful. Keep a watch on your dog if she is still limping and she seems to get a little moppy, make sure she doesn't get a fever. We don't live in a high risk area either and as soon as i brought her into the vet she said she either has mountain fever, or something like that or lymes disease. She felt stronger about the lymes disease and she was right. I am sure your baby is fine. But better to be safe than sorry Chat Icon

Posted 11/5/07 9:13 AM
 

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Re: Lymes Vaccination

She has the vaccination but has never been tested for it.

Posted 11/5/07 9:13 AM
 

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Posted by luckysmom

Just be careful. Keep a watch on your dog if she is still limping and she seems to get a little moppy, make sure she doesn't get a fever. We don't live in a high risk area either and as soon as i brought her into the vet she said she either has mountain fever, or something like that or lymes disease. She felt stronger about the lymes disease and she was right. I am sure your baby is fine. But better to be safe than sorry Chat Icon



Thank you. I will. He was tested for Rocky Mtn, Lyme, Erlichiosis, etc. All negative. All other things normal (no fever) so it is likely a sprain but it did get me thinking. I agree.

Did the treatment cure your sheltie? How long of tx did she take?

Posted 11/5/07 12:42 PM
 

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Re: Lymes Vaccination

Posted by Goobster

Posted by luckysmom

Just be careful. Keep a watch on your dog if she is still limping and she seems to get a little moppy, make sure she doesn't get a fever. We don't live in a high risk area either and as soon as i brought her into the vet she said she either has mountain fever, or something like that or lymes disease. She felt stronger about the lymes disease and she was right. I am sure your baby is fine. But better to be safe than sorry Chat Icon



Thank you. I will. He was tested for Rocky Mtn, Lyme, Erlichiosis, etc. All negative. All other things normal (no fever) so it is likely a sprain but it did get me thinking. I agree.

Did the treatment cure your sheltie? How long of tx did she take?



Rocky Mtn, thats the other thing they thought. And yes the treatment did cure her. She had a series of 2 shots when she was diagnosed almost 3 years ago and thankfully today she is just fine. A little crazy in the head, but thats her normal self Chat Icon

Posted 11/5/07 12:50 PM
 

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Re: Lymes Vaccination

Thanks Everyone.

I spoke to the vet - usually when dogs have the vaccination they do not have to be tested on a regular basis.

They usually only test if they have signs of something wrong.

We just found out that Casey's best friend Maggie has Lymes Disease and in the highest stage Chat Icon Chat Icon

So now she will be put on antibotics and she will be watched now to see if she is getting better Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Now I just want to do research on it - but I don't even know where to start Chat Icon

Posted 11/6/07 11:47 AM
 

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Re: Lymes Vaccination

Our vet recommended it since we have a small dog and she can fit under bushes, brush where ticks normally hide, so she's fully vaccinated on everything.

Posted 11/6/07 11:52 AM
 
 

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