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JDandMe
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ORganic food not healthier
Does this change your opinion about buying organic foods?
I ask b/c my sister buys organic only and says she buys it for her kids. I pointed out this article and she said that it would not make her stop buying organic. Her position is that a lot of food add hormones and since she has daughters, she feels that organic is free of hormones as well as pesticides and therefore, better for her girls. She believes that some kids can develop earlier due to all the hormones in food. My sister is an RN, if that makes a difference.
WASHINGTON -- Patient after patient asked: Is eating organic food, which costs more, really better for me?
Unsure, Stanford University doctors dug through reams of research to find out – and concluded there's little evidence that going organic is much healthier, citing only a few differences involving pesticides and antibiotics.
Eating organic fruits and vegetables can lower exposure to pesticides, including for children – but the amount measured from conventionally grown produce was within safety limits, the researchers reported Monday.
Nor did the organic foods prove more nutritious.
"I was absolutely surprised," said Dr. Dena Bravata, a senior research affiliate at Stanford and long-time internist who began the analysis because so many of her patients asked if they should switch.
"There are many reasons why someone might choose organic foods over conventional foods," from environmental concerns to taste preferences, Bravata stressed. But when it comes to individual health, "there isn't much difference."
Her team did find a notable difference with antibiotic-resistant germs, a public health concern because they are harder to treat if they cause food poisoning.
Specialists long have said that organic or not, the chances of bacterial contamination of food are the same, and Monday's analysis agreed. But when bacteria did lurk in chicken or pork, germs in the non-organic meats had a 33 percent higher risk of being resistant to multiple antibiotics, the researchers reported Monday in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine.
That finding comes amid debate over feeding animals antibiotics, not because they're sick but to fatten them up. Farmers say it's necessary to meet demand for cheap meat. Public health advocates say it's one contributor to the nation's growing problem with increasingly hard-to-treat germs. Caroline Smith DeWaal, food safety director at the Center for Science in the Public Interest, counted 24 outbreaks linked to multidrug-resistant germs in food between 2000 and 2010.
The government has begun steps to curb the nonmedical use of antibiotics on the farm.
Organic foods account for 4.2 percent of retail food sales, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. It certifies products as organic if they meet certain requirements including being produced without synthetic pesticides or fertilizers, or routine use of antibiotics or growth hormones.
Consumers can pay a lot more for some organic products but demand is rising: Organic foods accounted for $31.4 billion sales last year, according to a recent Obama administration report. That's up from $3.6 billion in 1997.
The Stanford team combed through thousands of studies to analyze the 237 that most rigorously compared organic and conventional foods. Bravata was dismayed that just 17 compared how people fared eating either diet while the rest investigated properties of the foods themselves.
Organic produce had a 30 percent lower risk of containing detectable pesticide levels. In two studies of children, urine testing showed lower pesticide levels in those on organic diets. But Bravata cautioned that both groups harbored very small amounts – and said one study suggested insecticide use in their homes may be more to blame than their food.
Still, some studies have suggested that even small pesticide exposures might be risky for some children, and the Organic Trade Association said the Stanford work confirms that organics can help consumers lower their exposure.
CSPI's DeWaal noted that difference, but added that the issue is more complicated. Some fruits and vegetables can harbor more pesticide residue than others – she listed peaches from Chile as topping a recent testing list. Overall levels have dropped in North American produce over the last decade as farms implemented some new standards addressing child concerns, she said.
"Parents with young children should consider where their produce is coming from," DeWaal said, calling types grown in the U.S. or Canada "a safer bet" for lower pesticide levels.
As for antibiotics, some farms that aren't certified organic have begun selling antibiotic-free meat or hormone-free milk, to address specific consumer demands, noted Bravata. Her own preference is to buy from local farmers in hopes of getting the ripest produce with the least handling.
That kind of mixed approach was evident in a market in the nation's capital Thursday, where Liz Pardue of Washington said she buys organic "partially for environmental reasons." Pardue said she doesn't go out of her way to shop organic, but if she does, it's to buy mostly things that are hard to wash like berries and lettuce.
Michelle Dent of Oxon Hill, Md., said she buys most of her groceries from regular chain stores but gets her fruit from organic markets: "It's fresh; you can really taste it."
Anna Hamadyk of Washington said she buys only organic milk because she has a young son.
"I would love to buy everything organic, but it's just too much money," said Hamadyk, who also shops at local farmers markets.
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From Huffington Post http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/04/organic-food-health-produce-food_n_1853995.html
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
The calories, vitamins, etc are not healthier - the content is the same. However, organic is not genetically modified, pumped with hormones, sprayed with pesticides, or full of antibiotics.
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
Posted by TheDivineMrsM
The calories, vitamins, etc are not healthier - the content is the same. However, organic is not genetically modified, pumped with hormones, sprayed with pesticides, or full of antibiotics.
This. I don't buy organic because it has more "good stuff," I buy it because it has less "bad stuff."
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
Posted by wingsofsong
Posted by TheDivineMrsM
The calories, vitamins, etc are not healthier - the content is the same. However, organic is not genetically modified, pumped with hormones, sprayed with pesticides, or full of antibiotics.
This. I don't buy organic because it has more "good stuff," I buy it because it has less "bad stuff."
Exactly. I thought the article was foolish.
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
Here is a response to the Stanford study
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
This stood out to me: "Eating organic fruits and vegetables can lower exposure to pesticides, including for children – but the amount measured from conventionally grown produce was within safety limits, the researchers reported Monday."
I don't trust that the government adequately regulates what is considered safe, and within safe limits. Look at things like BPA - gov't still insists the data is unclear and that BPA is safe.
I feed my son organic bc I believe it's a way to reduce his exposure to pesticides and hormones.
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
I never thought it was healthier. I buy it because I don't want hormones, pesticides and antibiotics in my family's food. I also think it tastes better.
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
Posted by TheDivineMrsM
The calories, vitamins, etc are not healthier - the content is the same. However, organic is not genetically modified, pumped with hormones, sprayed with pesticides, or full of antibiotics.
Yes. This is why I buy organic.
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
Posted by Katareen
Posted by wingsofsong
Posted by TheDivineMrsM
The calories, vitamins, etc are not healthier - the content is the same. However, organic is not genetically modified, pumped with hormones, sprayed with pesticides, or full of antibiotics.
This. I don't buy organic because it has more "good stuff," I buy it because it has less "bad stuff."
Exactly. I thought the article was foolish.
Same here. The article I read said that organic milk and produce had on average 30% fewer pesticides and that is enough of a difference for me to continue to buy organic milk and certain produce. Also this was not a long terms study rather they read other studies so I don't really feel as if it holds as much weight.
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
I think the definition of "healthier" is the issue here.
Organic food is not "more nutritious". So an organic apple and a non-organic apple will probably have the same amounts of vitamins, fiber, etc. So in that respect they are equally healthy.
Organic food IS "purer", which I imagine is better for our health. So in that respect I do think that organic food is healthier.
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
Posted by wingsofsong
Posted by TheDivineMrsM
The calories, vitamins, etc are not healthier - the content is the same. However, organic is not genetically modified, pumped with hormones, sprayed with pesticides, or full of antibiotics.
This. I don't buy organic because it has more "good stuff," I buy it because it has less "bad stuff."
same
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MrsA1012
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
Posted by TheDivineMrsM
The calories, vitamins, etc are not healthier - the content is the same. However, organic is not genetically modified, pumped with hormones, sprayed with pesticides, or full of antibiotics.
Yes, exactly. I don't buy organics because they are more nutritious. I do it to avoid all the crap put in regular food! So in short this won't change my buying habits.
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MrsA1012
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
Posted by SweetTooth
I never thought it was healthier. I buy it because I don't want hormones, pesticides and antibiotics in my family's food. I also think it tastes better.
I agree about the taste too.
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
Posted by wingsofsong
Posted by TheDivineMrsM
The calories, vitamins, etc are not healthier - the content is the same. However, organic is not genetically modified, pumped with hormones, sprayed with pesticides, or full of antibiotics.
This. I don't buy organic because it has more "good stuff," I buy it because it has less "bad stuff."
Yes.
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
Posted by Katareen
Posted by wingsofsong
Posted by TheDivineMrsM
The calories, vitamins, etc are not healthier - the content is the same. However, organic is not genetically modified, pumped with hormones, sprayed with pesticides, or full of antibiotics.
This. I don't buy organic because it has more "good stuff," I buy it because it has less "bad stuff."
Exactly. I thought the article was foolish.
ITA all around.
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
Posted by SweetTooth
I never thought it was healthier. I buy it because I don't want hormones, pesticides and antibiotics in my family's food. I also think it tastes better.
Exactly!
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
Posted by pnbplus1
This stood out to me: "Eating organic fruits and vegetables can lower exposure to pesticides, including for children – but the amount measured from conventionally grown produce was within safety limits, the researchers reported Monday."
This. I buy organic b/c I don't want all the extra crap (pesticides, hormones, gmo, etc) in my food. Organic or not, fruit is healthy for you, but I like just the nutrients not the other non natural stuff.
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
Posted by pnbplus1
This stood out to me: "Eating organic fruits and vegetables can lower exposure to pesticides, including for children – but the amount measured from conventionally grown produce was within safety limits, the researchers reported Monday."
I don't trust that the government adequately regulates what is considered safe, and within safe limits. Look at things like BPA - gov't still insists the data is unclear and that BPA is safe.
I feed my son organic bc I believe it's a way to reduce his exposure to pesticides and hormones.
ITTTTTTA Government limits are laughable.
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
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Here is a response to the Stanford study
Article
Great and informative article!
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MrsA1012
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
Posted by DRMom
Posted by pnbplus1
This stood out to me: "Eating organic fruits and vegetables can lower exposure to pesticides, including for children – but the amount measured from conventionally grown produce was within safety limits, the researchers reported Monday."
I don't trust that the government adequately regulates what is considered safe, and within safe limits. Look at things like BPA - gov't still insists the data is unclear and that BPA is safe.
I feed my son organic bc I believe it's a way to reduce his exposure to pesticides and hormones.
ITTTTTTA Government limits are laughable.
Yup. This is the same entity that allows meat/ dairy to be pumped with antibiotics that are linked to the current rise in antibiotic resistant infections and MRSA. Don't get me on my !
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
Posted by DRMom
Posted by pnbplus1
This stood out to me: "Eating organic fruits and vegetables can lower exposure to pesticides, including for children – but the amount measured from conventionally grown produce was within safety limits, the researchers reported Monday."
I don't trust that the government adequately regulates what is considered safe, and within safe limits. Look at things like BPA - gov't still insists the data is unclear and that BPA is safe.
I feed my son organic bc I believe it's a way to reduce his exposure to pesticides and hormones.
ITTTTTTA Government limits are laughable.
Agreed! And I wonder who sponsored this study. Monsanto? I wouldn't be surprised.
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
Posted by TheDivineMrsM
The calories, vitamins, etc are not healthier - the content is the same. However, organic is not genetically modified, pumped with hormones, sprayed with pesticides, or full of antibiotics.
thank you.
I thought this "finding" was pretty pathetic actually.
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
Posted by pnbplus1
This stood out to me: "Eating organic fruits and vegetables can lower exposure to pesticides, including for children – but the amount measured from conventionally grown produce was within safety limits, the researchers reported Monday."
I don't trust that the government adequately regulates what is considered safe, and within safe limits. Look at things like BPA - gov't still insists the data is unclear and that BPA is safe.
I feed my son organic bc I believe it's a way to reduce his exposure to pesticides and hormones.
This exactly.
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
YES to all of the above comments.
This is really the reason why I try to buy as much organic as I can:
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MrsA1012
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Re: ORganic food not healthier
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YES to all of the above comments.
This is really the reason why I try to buy as much organic as I can:
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