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nicrae
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Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
A co-worker and I were having a conversation today about Global Warming. I told her that some people in my family think it is a myth....her response: They must be Republicans! Just wondering if this is the general consensus???
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donegal419
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
I think ti's definitely true, but to the actual amount, I believe that may be extremely exagerrated.
One of the meterologists was on the radio the other night... I forget who it was??? SAm Champion? and he made a great point... how do we know that the climate is changing significantly. he made a good point about climate and weather going through cycles. Yes, things are warmer than they have been in our lifetimes, but that is normal... it may have been like that years ago and it's just going through it's normal cycle. also, there were years and years of weather and climate patterns that we have no record of because there wasn't the technology to do it.
Do i believe that we MUST reduce waste, use less oil, come up with alternative fuels, recycle, etc. OF COURSE! but i am not naive enoough to think that the world is going to severely change in the next 100 years like the liberal media, Gore and the like, lead some to believe.
ETA: I am an Independent.
Message edited 6/12/2008 9:36:18 PM.
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| Posted 6/12/08 9:28 PM |
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browneyedgirl
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
100% fact and i am a democrat.
DH on the other hand believes it's a democratic conspiracy 
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| Posted 6/12/08 9:35 PM |
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itkocak
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
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| Posted 6/12/08 9:37 PM |
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seaside
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
Fact. No matter what you are. 
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| Posted 6/12/08 9:37 PM |
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CAMCaps
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
Posted by donegal419
One of the meteorologists was on the radio the other night... I forget who it was??? Sam Champion? and he made a great point... how do we know that the climate is changing significantly. he made a good point about climate and weather going through cycles. Yes, things are warmer than they have been in our lifetimes, but that is normal... it may have been like that years ago and it's just going through it's normal cycle. also, there were years and years of weather and climate patterns that we have no record of because there wasn't the technology to do it.
I do agree with this train of thought. I think the Earth goes through climate changes in a cyclical pattern. Our actions may be influencing the pattern, but I do believe it would happen regardless. Fossil records prove that climates all over the Earth at one point or another were completely different than what they are now and global warming has only been a factor since industrialization.
This, however, does not mean I think we should neglect the environment. Humans have the greatest effect on ecosystems even though they are not the most numerous organisms. It is important to reduce, reuse, and recycle and to start finding alternative energy sources since it is estimated naturally occurring fossil fuels will only be around for the next 100 years or so.
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| Posted 6/12/08 9:49 PM |
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juanvi
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
WHAT? Who actually thinks it's a myth? I just can't believe there are people out there that actually don't believe it or think it's not as serious as it really is. 
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| Posted 6/12/08 9:53 PM |
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nbc188
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
DH is an Earth Science teacher and his degree is in Meteorology, he's obviously very knowledgeable in the field. He is also Republican. But according to his research, while global warming exists to certain extents, there are underlying factors and natural cyclical changes that occur in the environment that we are seeing, according to him.
I irk DH to no end when I tell him how knowledgeable Al Gore really seemed on the subject on Oprah a few times 
I'm interested to see if Waterspout (Kelly) responds to this too, as this is her field as well.
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| Posted 6/12/08 9:53 PM |
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nbc188
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
Posted by imthekevinofcindyandkevin
Posted by donegal419
I think ti's definitely true, but to the actual amount, I believe that may be extremely exagerrated.
One of the meterologists was on the radio the other night... I forget who it was??? SAm Champion? and he made a great point... how do we know that the climate is changing significantly. he made a good point about climate and weather going through cycles. Yes, things are warmer than they have been in our lifetimes, but that is normal... it may have been like that years ago and it's just going through it's normal cycle. also, there were years and years of weather and climate patterns that we have no record of because there wasn't the technology to do it.
Do i believe that we MUST reduce waste, use less oil, come up with alternative fuels, recycle, etc. OF COURSE! but i am not naive enoough to think that the world is going to severely change in the next 100 years like the liberal media, Gore and the like, lead some to believe.
I agree with this. Also I think it's the natural progression of our planet. I don't think anything lasts forever. Have there been things to accelerate the process? Sure. But I think the time line as you stated is severely exaggerated.
As I posted, DH feels the same, and would likely agree with both of these posts word for word.
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| Posted 6/12/08 9:54 PM |
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dm24angel
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
I think that people who think its a myth like to live in a bubble of cant happen to me.
I think " An Inconvienent Truth" should be shown to EVERYONE and then they decide.
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| Posted 6/12/08 10:17 PM |
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DaniJude
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
Posted by niikki-8-18-06
A co-worker and I were having a conversation today about Global Warming. I told her that some people in my family think it is a myth....her response: They must be Republicans! Just wondering if this is the general consensus???
oh nicole this cracks me up!!! 
when kenneth is better he'll get a kick out of it too. i'm sure you know how he feels about global warming lol and you know where he sits on the political fence too maybe that helps your poll, lol!
I think the whole idea of global warming is a little blown out of proportion and, in general, there are a lot of myths behind the idea. I happen to be a registered conservative not that I think one has anything to do with the other but it is a funny idea to try and make a connection between the two!
I love our environment, love animals so it is not that I don't care or don't want to think that there may be a problem it's just that I think the whole idea is a way for SOME people (not naming names lol) to get attention politically and socially. I believe non-partisan groups that have the best interest of the world at hand - no one else's. And that group would be NASA - they are scientists who discovered that during the past year our earth actually COOLED a degree so the whole idea really goes out of the window once they conducted that study.
The other problem is that a lot of our warming gasses and things that are causing the temps to increase are NATURAL phenoms like volcanoes that are pumping out more greenhouse gases than are created by people every single year. Plus, the sun is giving off more heat than it has ever given off in the past - we can't do a darn thing about it, it is a natural thing and we have gone through cycles like this in the past -- cooling periods and warming periods. Other planets have been effected by the sun giving off more heat too: mercury, pluto and venus have all experienced it. Yet, even with those factors, our earth still cooled a full degree from 2007-2008... And to show that there have been warming periods in the past our earth actually warmed two full degrees from 1907-2007. and, interestingly enough, afghanistan had its first recorded snow fall EVER this past year! pretty cool... lol no pun intended.
overall, since the beginning of time and scientists recording temps our earth's temp has been the most stable once "modern man" started to come into existence than it has EVER been before -- before us, our climate changes were like a freaking rollercoaster! so, i guess that's a good thing.
I think us watching what we consume, how much gas we use, how we recycle and all that jazz is great, for the good of our environment and air quality, etc... definitely keep it all up for those reasons - but to go on this crusade about global warming - ehh, I'm just not buying it.
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VirginiaDeb
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
Dem and I believe it's a fact.
FIL blames global warming on Al Gore. He says without Al, we wouldn't know about it ;)
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| Posted 6/13/08 6:43 AM |
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MrsFlatbread
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
Extreme climate changes are not a new concept. Some believe the dinosaurs became extinct due to climate changes. It's just that we hear about it more.
I do believe it is happening right now.
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| Posted 6/13/08 6:54 AM |
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Erica
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
100% true (independent)
While I do believe this could be a natural climate change, I think humans are helping it along.
If you have ever driven from Eastern CA into LA, you would see the blanket of smog trapped by the mountains - it's just like the solar cover on my pool.
and LA isn't alone, the smog I saw in Beijing was 1000x worse. You can even see it in NYC, but the weathermen like to call it "haze"
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| Posted 6/13/08 7:17 AM |
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Goobster
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
Posted by Erica
100% true
While I do believe this could be a natural climate change, I think humans are helping it along.
I totally agree. Naturally our ozone will suffer with all of our industry and technological advances, and resulting polution. Nature can't always make up for what we as humans create.
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| Posted 6/13/08 7:24 AM |
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Wendy
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
So funny!! Memorial Day weekend we were with IL's and one of my niece's friends was interviewing us for a science project and it was about Global Warming and my SIL thinks it a myth and I was like 
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| Posted 6/13/08 7:47 AM |
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SweetTooth
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
OK the fact that anyone things global warming is a myth boggles my mind, and I don't see how it has anything to do with political association.
YES the earth's climate changes cyclically. HOWEVER, if you look at climate changes for the past 150 years and compare it to climate changes from the past MILLION years, you will see that global temperature, and the amount of carbon dioxide, methane, and other greenhouse gases have increased dramatically over the past 150 years (since the industrial revolution). There has never been a temperature rise like this in MILLIONS of years. And yes, there were no thermometers or other instruments to measure these conditions a million years ago, however, by drilling in ice cores scientists can use evidence that shows what the temperature of the earth was at the time the ice was deposited. So whoever thinks global warming is a myth lives in a bubble that needs to be popped.
If anyone thinks its not real, try watching An Inconvinent Truth. It has nothing to do with Al Gore being a democrat, the whole program is based on scientific FACT.
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| Posted 6/13/08 7:59 AM |
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SweetTooth
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
Posted by DaniRella
overall, since the beginning of time and scientists recording temps our earth's temp has been the most stable once "modern man" started to come into existence than it has EVER been before -- before us, our climate changes were like a freaking rollercoaster! so, i guess that's a good thing.
I am sorry but where did you get this information, because it is not true at all. And what do you mean by "modern man?"
You don't see a trend here?
And my questions to those who think its a myth or overexaggerated, what would be the point in scientists doing that? Why would they say something is true if in fact it is not?
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| Posted 6/13/08 8:16 AM |
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
Posted by MrsFlatbread
Extreme climate changes are not a new concept. Some believe the dinosaurs became extinct due to climate changes. It's just that we hear about it more.
I do believe it is happening right now.
ITA
ice age anyone?
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| Posted 6/13/08 8:26 AM |
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Bxgell2
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
First of all, the dinosaur extinction was triggered by a massive meteorite, which in turn, caused the climate changes.
Second, yes, during the history of earth there have been MANY MANY cycles. True, we didn't have thermometers to guage temperatures say, 1 billion years ago. But, as someone above mentioned, by looking at the geological record, scientists have a fairly accurate picture of how these cyclical changes occured, how often, and how quickly.
The truth of the matter is that we may very well be entering a new climatic era. HOWEVER, the evidence shows that the damage we have done to the earth has rapidly progressed that cylical change at a rate that we have never EVER seen before during the hsitory of earth.
That kind of rapid progression is what will cause MAJOR disruptions to our environment and MAJOR natural disasters as the planet makes a feeble attempt at regulating itself.
And one more thing - climatic changes aren't the only concern with global warming. All the chemicals and pollutants we are pumping into our air and ground are having a very real impact on our health overall (i.e. cancer, asthma, etc).
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| Posted 6/13/08 8:36 AM |
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SweetTooth
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by MrsFlatbread
Extreme climate changes are not a new concept. Some believe the dinosaurs became extinct due to climate changes. It's just that we hear about it more.
I do believe it is happening right now.
ITA
ice age anyone?
There have been many ice ages over geologic time. In fact, we are in an interglacial period right now. The evidence behind global warming does not argue that climat changes cyclicaly, what it shows is that temperature has risen DRAMATICALLY over the past 150 years, which in geologic time is the blink of an eye. When we look at the cycles from the past the warming and cooling happened over tens, hundreds of thousands or millions of years, not 150.
If we look at the trends, you would probably even see that we are in a cooler time right now than we have seen in the geologic past. (Hence interglacial period) HOWEVER, the rise we have seen since the industrial revolution is what we are looking at.
As for the dinosaurs and other massl extinctions - yes one of the theories is climate change. Actually the dinosaur theory at the moment is that a huge meteor crashed into earth and sent so much debris into the air it caused the climate to change.
Message edited 6/13/2008 8:40:25 AM.
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| Posted 6/13/08 8:39 AM |
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Bxgell2
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by MrsFlatbread
Extreme climate changes are not a new concept. Some believe the dinosaurs became extinct due to climate changes. It's just that we hear about it more.
I do believe it is happening right now.
ITA
ice age anyone?
There have been many ice ages over geologic time. In fact, we are in an interglacial period right now. The evidence behind global warming does not argue that climat changes cyclicaly, what it shows is that temperature has risen DRAMATICALLY over the past 150 years, which in geologic time is the blink of an eye. When we look at the cycles from the past the warming and cooling happened over tens, hundreds of thousands or millions of years, not 150.
If we look at the trends, you would probably even see that we are in a cooler time right now than we have seen in the geologic past. (Hence interglacial period) HOWEVER, the rise we have seen since the industrial revolution is what we are looking at.
As for the dinosaurs and other global extinctions - yes one of the theories is climate change. Actually the dinosaur theory at the moment is that a huge meteor crashed into earth and sent so much debris into the air it caused the climate to change.
I think we just wrote an identical post Great minds....
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| Posted 6/13/08 8:40 AM |
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SweetTooth
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
Posted by Bxgell2
Posted by SweetTooth
Posted by SweetestOfPeas
Posted by MrsFlatbread
Extreme climate changes are not a new concept. Some believe the dinosaurs became extinct due to climate changes. It's just that we hear about it more.
I do believe it is happening right now.
ITA
ice age anyone?
There have been many ice ages over geologic time. In fact, we are in an interglacial period right now. The evidence behind global warming does not argue that climat changes cyclicaly, what it shows is that temperature has risen DRAMATICALLY over the past 150 years, which in geologic time is the blink of an eye. When we look at the cycles from the past the warming and cooling happened over tens, hundreds of thousands or millions of years, not 150.
If we look at the trends, you would probably even see that we are in a cooler time right now than we have seen in the geologic past. (Hence interglacial period) HOWEVER, the rise we have seen since the industrial revolution is what we are looking at.
As for the dinosaurs and other global extinctions - yes one of the theories is climate change. Actually the dinosaur theory at the moment is that a huge meteor crashed into earth and sent so much debris into the air it caused the climate to change.
I think we just wrote an identical post Great minds....
I just saw that!
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| Posted 6/13/08 8:41 AM |
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Diane
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
100% fact.
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| Posted 6/13/08 8:46 AM |
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Songwriter76
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Re: Global Warming...Myth or Fact??
Posted by DaniRella
I believe non-partisan groups that have the best interest of the world at hand - no one else's. And that group would be NASA - they are scientists who discovered that during the past year our earth actually COOLED a degree so the whole idea really goes out of the window once they conducted that study.
Actually NASA posted this on their web site about the "cooling ocean"
Update as of 5/30/07: Recent analyses have revealed that results from some of the ocean float and shipboard sensor data used in this study were incorrect. As a result, the study's conclusion that the oceans cooled between 2003 and 2005 can not be substantiated at this time. The study authors are currently working to correct these data errors and recompute ocean temperature changes.
Although the average temperature of the upper oceans has significantly cooled since 2003, the decline is a fraction of the total ocean warming over the previous 48 years.
The oceans today are still warmer than they were during the 1980s, and most scientists expect the oceans will eventually continue to warm in response to human-induced climate change."
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