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Kissy331
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
Coming from a family filled with Correction Officers that all work in Maximum Security Prisons, I can tell you this, the care packages they are receiving are truly nothing. Some of the people that are in there serving time are actually getting a better life then they did outside of jail. It use to disgust me when I heard from family members all the "perks" the inmates get & it has nothing to do with rehabilitation. I understand these people are human & some have not committed the crimes they are in there for but lets face it, it is JAIL. There is no reason why our tax dollars should go to schooling them & giving them the same perks that a person outside of jail has. If you think about it, the only thing missing in a inmates life is their families & being free.
Sending letters is one thing, but sending food & clothing is another.
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
Posted by Janice
I bet his mom feels so good for a few minutes each month about the situation at the thought of her son receiving this.
His mom must be in hell over this...all the gosspiers, missing her son, conflicted feelings-I think she deserves a nice moment once a month.
actually---i think a lot of times she (and others that come in) hate it. because often the prisoners are like "don't send me generic chips--i want ruffles next time" and such like that.
i have one customer that has been sending since 1989 (doubt her son will ever leave prison)---and he COMPLAINS when she buys the no frills brand stuff. that bothers me a lot.
i didn't say how i felt--like others--i'm on the fence. like customers who send packages and then the person gets out--and then gets arrested again--it makes me feel like their loved one isn't going to be "rehabilitated"--while others i know that they feel so terrible for their loved one and want to make them have a moment of happiness once a month
its tough
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EckoRed81504
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
My theory--if they allow it...send it.
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Kara
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
Posted by MrsPJB2007
i didn't say how i felt--like others--i'm on the fence. like customers who send packages and then the person gets out--and then gets arrested again--it makes me feel like their loved one isn't going to be "rehabilitated"--while others i know that they feel so terrible for their loved one and want to make them have a moment of happiness once a month
its tough
I highly doubt the care packages contributed to their run-ins with the law after they got out of prison. JMHO.
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| Posted 2/14/08 12:33 PM |
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
The prepackaged food from care packages or from earned money for commissary is the only food some of the prisoners will eat.
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MrsPJB2007
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
Posted by Kara
Posted by MrsPJB2007
i didn't say how i felt--like others--i'm on the fence. like customers who send packages and then the person gets out--and then gets arrested again--it makes me feel like their loved one isn't going to be "rehabilitated"--while others i know that they feel so terrible for their loved one and want to make them have a moment of happiness once a month
its tough
I highly doubt the care packages contributed to their run-ins with the law after they got out of prison. JMHO.
oh no--i'm not sayign that the care pkges have anything to do with that. i mean that some people are saying "well they need to be treated humane cause this is about rehabilitation." but when i see customers have boyfriends, girlfriends, sons, daughters, etc. who are CONSTANTLY getting arrested and put away for things---that is when i think "this person is learning nothing from being in jail---why should they get the perks of a package if they aren't being rehabilitated?"
That's why i get on the fence about it sometimes.
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
Posted by Mssissy
As long as the family pays for it I don't see anything wrong with it. I wouldn't want anymore of my tax money going to them for these little "extras".
ditto.
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| Posted 2/14/08 12:36 PM |
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Kara
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
Posted by MrsPJB2007
Posted by Kara
Posted by MrsPJB2007
i didn't say how i felt--like others--i'm on the fence. like customers who send packages and then the person gets out--and then gets arrested again--it makes me feel like their loved one isn't going to be "rehabilitated"--while others i know that they feel so terrible for their loved one and want to make them have a moment of happiness once a month
its tough
I highly doubt the care packages contributed to their run-ins with the law after they got out of prison. JMHO.
oh no--i'm not sayign that the care pkges have anything to do with that. i mean that some people are saying "well they need to be treated humane cause this is about rehabilitation." but when i see customers have boyfriends, girlfriends, sons, daughters, etc. who are CONSTANTLY getting arrested and put away for things---that is when i think "this person is learning nothing from being in jail---why should they get the perks of a package if they aren't being rehabilitated?"
That's why i get on the fence about it sometimes.
I see. I agree actually. The prisons need to be reformed big time -- The focus needs to return to rehabilitation.
But that won't happen - and this thread shows why. It would be too unpopular to focus attention and more resources on prisons, even when the end result would be decreasing prison populations over time and making more people contributing, productive membesr of society. People don't want to see it that way. They don't want to focus on the 1,000s of people who aren't in prison for murder or rape - the people who are there for theft and other crimes that are likely a direct result of poverty. (I'm NOT saying that they are stealing to feed their families. Let's be clear. I mean that there are studies proving that crime is linked to poverty in many ways.) These are the people with few life skills who know no other way to survive than crime. So they are the ones who are in and out of prison constantly.
We need to focus on the big picture if we want to make big changes.
Apparently, though, it appears that most people don't want any changes in the prison system... at least not ones that would actually do any good.
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PotofLuck06
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
Posted by Kara
Another thing - Prisoners are doing jobs that have to be done. We aren't paying them 25 cents an hour to twiddle their thumbs. They are doing things that would otherwise cost the government a lot of money to accomplish. They'd have to pay anyone else at LEAST minimum wage to do the job -- so while you see it as a waste of taxpayer money, it's actually a savings of taxpayer money.
I didn't state it was a waste of tax dollars, I just know some of our tax dollars go towards prisons - for what, I don't have all the specifics/knowledge.
Your statement opened up some things that I didn't know about - the only thing I've ever researched is the cost of death penalty in a thesis about the subject.
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Kara
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
Posted by PotofLuck06
Posted by Kara
Another thing - Prisoners are doing jobs that have to be done. We aren't paying them 25 cents an hour to twiddle their thumbs. They are doing things that would otherwise cost the government a lot of money to accomplish. They'd have to pay anyone else at LEAST minimum wage to do the job -- so while you see it as a waste of taxpayer money, it's actually a savings of taxpayer money.
I didn't state it was a waste of tax dollars, I just know some of our tax dollars go towards prisons - for what, I don't have all the specifics/knowledge.
Your statement opened up some things that I didn't know about - the only thing I've ever researched is the cost of death penalty in a thesis about the subject.
I'm sorry. You were asking in a general sense. I didn't mean to put words in your mouth. I believe I may have read your post too quickly. My apologies!
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PotofLuck06
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
Posted by Kara
Posted by PotofLuck06
Posted by Kara
Another thing - Prisoners are doing jobs that have to be done. We aren't paying them 25 cents an hour to twiddle their thumbs. They are doing things that would otherwise cost the government a lot of money to accomplish. They'd have to pay anyone else at LEAST minimum wage to do the job -- so while you see it as a waste of taxpayer money, it's actually a savings of taxpayer money.
I didn't state it was a waste of tax dollars, I just know some of our tax dollars go towards prisons - for what, I don't have all the specifics/knowledge.
Your statement opened up some things that I didn't know about - the only thing I've ever researched is the cost of death penalty in a thesis about the subject.
I'm sorry. You were asking in a general sense. I didn't mean to put words in your mouth. I believe I may have read your post too quickly. My apologies!
No issues. It's difficult to ascertain tone off the internet. I wasn't offended - just clarifying.
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PrincessP
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
In a positive light....
it probably does less for the prisoner then it does for the family. The family probably feels that they can do at least a little something for their child. I truly believe the prisoner is already being punished by sitting in jail. If it gives the family a little ease...I think its fine.
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pinkandblue
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
yes definitely
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saraH
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
Yes, I don't see how a snickers bar is going to make a huge difference anyway. I don't see why people get heated about the inates family spending their money to send their child something.
Jail is an awful place, and if there is anything to make an inmates day a little brighter, then I see nothing wrong with that.
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MarisaK
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
I look at it from the opposite side - Not the fact that it makes the prisoner happy/comfortable etc, but it gives that person's family and/or friends the opportunity to reach out to them and "help" in a situation where they are otherwise helpless -
I'm sure people don't have a child or marry a man or woman HOPING he/she will one day be locked up for the better part of their life .........
Can you imagine being the mother of a MURDERER ?? It's still your child - How do you even attempt to deal with or 'fix' something like that ??
So, No - I don't have a problem with it
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chikita315
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
I hate to break it to some of you, but not all people in prison are actually guilty of the crime they were convicted of.
That aside, having an in-law who was in and out of the penal system, receiving cookies/goodies, a sweatshirt, doesn't exactly turn prision from hell to club med.
They are there to be rehabilitated to re-enter our society so they can live amongst non-criminals, not against us.
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DaniJude
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
Posted by CathyB
I can see his point, but sending them oreos doesn't really bother me.
It did make me really angry when it was disclosed in the paper that Amy Fisher was able to get her undergraduate degree for free while in jail. She's the same age as DH and I are, she was in his class a few years in elementary school and middle school. It really hit home since we knew a few people from high school who barely were able to pay for college or couldn't go until they were older due to financial reasons. They were good people, and they couldn't get what she got after being convicted of trying to murder someone. It's not right.
while awaiting trial - amy fisher was at the jail my dad worked in - she used to request and get a special meal - sometimes vegan, sometimes kosher only, etc. each meal that she specially requested and received cost TRIPLE the amount of any other meal they normally give to the prisoners.
they also had HBO - i didn't even have that in my home 
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stayandjohn
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
As someone who currently has a close relative serving time in a federal correction camp AKA white collar country club prison.
Nothing about it is country club. Well maybe there arent any barb wire fences and no cells, he sleeps in a army barrack 300 to a room in bunk beds. He works from 7am-4pm. His meals consist of cereal and juice, bolonga sandwiches and maybe chicken at night.
He takes classes, and teaches an accounting class as well. He is just trying to finish out his 1 year 1 day sentence and get back to life. We can send him mail and magazines but thats it. No goodies what so ever. He can only have 20 pictures in his locker.
To visit him I can only take a clear bag with my license, insurance card and registration, my keys and $1 & $5 bills totaling no more than $20. We can buy him lunch and snacks at the visitors center, but he cannot touch the machines at all.
I've met a lot of nice people in this place and regardless of what crimes they committed (not one person in there has commited a violent act), they are men, men with families who love them dearly. The state takes care of their BASIC NEEDS, there are no free rides. They arent sitting back and taking advantage of anything. They are working and being paid, if you call .12 an hour being put into their commisary account so they can buy clothing toiletries, haircuts etc being paid. We put money in it as well but he can have no more than $500.
I dont think that the general population really knows what goes on in prison, only what they see and hear on TV & the movies.
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nrthshgrl
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
Posted by Kara
As long as we're not using taxpayer money to do it and as long as they aren't sending in contraband, they should be allowed to receive care packages. And I think the costs of having someone inspect the packages is de minimis.
Everyone, even the most heinous criminal, deserves to have at least one person who loves them. It doesn't have to be me or you, but who are we to judge if someone wants to send them a care package? As much as we like to think criminals are on vacation b/c they have cable and can get care packages, they are STIILL IN PRISON -- and prison, despite what you may think, is NOT a nice place to be.
ITA.
I'm conflicted on getting their degrees for free though...great spinoff.
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Ophelia
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
Posted by Kissy331
If you think about it, the only thing missing in a inmates life is their families & being free.
being "free" is what our country is based on. so that in and of itself IS the punishment. no amount of snacks is going to change that. your family is your life. imagine not being able to hold your loved one for YEARS.
THAT is the punishment.
yes, they commited a crime. but our penal system is one of rehabilitation and punishment.
everyone is talking about the degrees prisoners earn, but they still have to check off the "yes" box after the words convicted felon. that can close MANY a door.
many states give free college educations at state run universities...just not ours.
I have to say though, that I wouldn't send another CHIP if my ingrate of an inmate son complained. I'd tell him to chew on the one on his shoulder! 
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saraH
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by Kissy331
If you think about it, the only thing missing in a inmates life is their families & being free.
no amount of snacks is going to change that.
Very well said.
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dm24angel
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
I think being cared about is actually a good thing when talking about rehabilitation.
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Ltdentway99
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
It's a tough situation. Some poor mom who loves her son, whose convicted of murder, is probably thinking this is the only thing she could do for her "baby." I don't know, some people in jail are mentally sick and should be in mental hospitals for life, others make mistakes, and others are cruel sick deviants who derive pleasure from others pain. To be honest I don't care if they receive packages as long as they are not walking the streets. On a separate note, I don't mind spending my tax money to keep murderers and rapists in jail, it's like paying for my safety.
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Mommy2Boys
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
I think they should be able to recieve care packages as long as its not being paid for with my tax dollars.
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MrsERod
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Re: Should prisoners be able to receive care packages?
i think whoever is sending him SPAM should do some hard time! 
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