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Whats your Household income

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EclecticEsq10810
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Re: Whats your median Household income

Posted by Mrs213

Posted by EclecticEsq10810

I answered based on pre tax incomes of both DH and I. For ex: Husband makes $85K and wife makes $60K, 85+60 = $ 145K. Now, $ 145K may sound like a high HHI to some of you but once you factor the high cost of living, crazy property taxes, etc in Long Island, its actually peanuts..Chat Icon




It's not peanuts to people who make a lt less



Very true! Its all relative! HHI can also account for just one person working which penalizes the whole number (ie husband working and claiming $85K income while wife stays at home, then it seems like the HHI is lower although its a temporary situation until kids are in school, etc). Like Suze Orman says, its not so much what you make that matters, but how much of it you KEEP. Living within you means is a big one too - the challenge is that COI in NY metro area makes it challenging to stretch every dollar.

Posted 1/15/15 11:29 AM
 

ThreeforTea
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Re: Whats your median Household income

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by EclecticEsq10810

I answered based on pre tax incomes of both DH and I. For ex: Husband makes $85K and wife makes $60K, 85+60 = $ 145K. Now, $ 145K may sound like a high HHI to some of you but once you factor the high cost of living, crazy property taxes, etc in Long Island, its actually peanuts..Chat Icon



but, the MEDIAN is not $145. The median of the example you gave is $72.5K



correct..that's not the median. The OP stated median HH income.

Posted 1/15/15 11:29 AM
 

hopingforbaby
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Whats your median Household income

I totally answered the poll wrong. Chat Icon But I will say our MEDIAN salary is NOT $93k! I wish!

Posted 1/15/15 11:34 AM
 

Seawolf
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Re: Whats your median Household income

LOL i answered it wrong also, and, sadly, our TOTAL is still less than most of your medians Chat Icon

Posted 1/15/15 11:36 AM
 

Hofstra26
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Re: Whats your median Household income

Posted by ali120206

Posted by JDubs

Posted by KittyShops

Yikes lots of youse is rich.



That's what I was thinking!



Me too - I wonder if people answered for their total household income - instead of median? Just thinking based on the posts of the tax refunds that the number would be skewed lower...



You're suppose to answer based on your TOTAL household income. When the article mentions a median income it means that is what the average household makes however, half the people will fall below and above that number. I'm assuming the OP wants to know where people fall relative to what the article considers to be a median income.

You're not suppose to answer based on your median, you answer based on your total income and that will give you an idea of what YOUR household brings in relative to what the article considers to be an AVERAGE household income.

Message edited 1/15/2015 11:40:37 AM.

Posted 1/15/15 11:38 AM
 

chilltocam
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Re: Whats your median Household income

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by ali120206

Posted by JDubs

Posted by KittyShops

Yikes lots of youse is rich.



That's what I was thinking!



Me too - I wonder if people answered for their total household income - instead of median? Just thinking based on the posts of the tax refunds that the number would be skewed lower...



You're suppose to answer based on your TOTAL household income. When the article mentions a median income it means that is what the average household makes however, half the people will fall below and above that number. I'm assuming the OP wants to know where people fall relative to what the article considers to be a median income.




I get what you are saying, but the OP did not ask for total HHI, but the median -2 very different things.

OP - were you truly asking for median HHI or asking about total HHI?

Posted 1/15/15 11:40 AM
 

EclecticEsq10810
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Re: Whats your median Household income

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by EclecticEsq10810

I answered based on pre tax incomes of both DH and I. For ex: Husband makes $85K and wife makes $60K, 85+60 = $ 145K. Now, $ 145K may sound like a high HHI to some of you but once you factor the high cost of living, crazy property taxes, etc in Long Island, its actually peanuts..Chat Icon



but, the MEDIAN is not $145. The median of the example you gave is $72.5K



Oops. This is why I suck at math. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

OP needs to start a new thread. Our MEDIAN HHI is definitely much lower - slightly under $100K.

Message edited 1/15/2015 11:43:58 AM.

Posted 1/15/15 11:41 AM
 

ThreeforTea
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Re: Whats your median Household income

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by ali120206

Posted by JDubs

Posted by KittyShops

Yikes lots of youse is rich.



That's what I was thinking!



Me too - I wonder if people answered for their total household income - instead of median? Just thinking based on the posts of the tax refunds that the number would be skewed lower...



You're suppose to answer based on your TOTAL household income. When the article mentions a median income it means that is what the average household makes however, half the people will fall below and above that number. I'm assuming the OP wants to know where people fall relative to what the article considers to be a median income.




I get what you are saying, but the OP did not ask for total HHI, but the median -2 very different things.

OP - were you truly asking for median HHI or asking about total HHI?



ok now I'm confused.

Posted 1/15/15 11:42 AM
 

ThreeforTea
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Re: Whats your median Household income

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by ali120206

Posted by JDubs

Posted by KittyShops

Yikes lots of youse is rich.



That's what I was thinking!



Me too - I wonder if people answered for their total household income - instead of median? Just thinking based on the posts of the tax refunds that the number would be skewed lower...



You're suppose to answer based on your TOTAL household income. When the article mentions a median income it means that is what the average household makes however, half the people will fall below and above that number. I'm assuming the OP wants to know where people fall relative to what the article considers to be a median income.

You're not suppose to answer based on your median, you answer based on your total income and that will give you an idea of what YOUR household brings in relative to what the article considers to be an AVERAGE household income.



Ok I just looked it up and Hofstra you are correct.

We do answer based on our total household.

Message edited 1/15/2015 11:43:35 AM.

Posted 1/15/15 11:43 AM
 

Hofstra26
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Re: Whats your median Household income

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by ali120206

Posted by JDubs

Posted by KittyShops

Yikes lots of youse is rich.



That's what I was thinking!



Me too - I wonder if people answered for their total household income - instead of median? Just thinking based on the posts of the tax refunds that the number would be skewed lower...



You're suppose to answer based on your TOTAL household income. When the article mentions a median income it means that is what the average household makes however, half the people will fall below and above that number. I'm assuming the OP wants to know where people fall relative to what the article considers to be a median income.




I get what you are saying, but the OP did not ask for total HHI, but the median -2 very different things.

OP - were you truly asking for median HHI or asking about total HHI?



She's asking what your household makes relative to what this article says is the median, median is just an average. If the average household brings in $93K........where does YOUR household fall relative to that number. NOT your median, that makes NO sense. If your household brings in $110K you're above the median. So you look at the stats from the poll and you're able to ascertain how many households fall above and below where this article considers the median household income.

It's the median of all people polled, not PER household.

Message edited 1/15/2015 11:43:52 AM.

Posted 1/15/15 11:43 AM
 

ThreeforTea
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Re: Whats your median Household income

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by ali120206

Posted by JDubs

Posted by KittyShops

Yikes lots of youse is rich.



That's what I was thinking!



Me too - I wonder if people answered for their total household income - instead of median? Just thinking based on the posts of the tax refunds that the number would be skewed lower...



You're suppose to answer based on your TOTAL household income. When the article mentions a median income it means that is what the average household makes however, half the people will fall below and above that number. I'm assuming the OP wants to know where people fall relative to what the article considers to be a median income.




I get what you are saying, but the OP did not ask for total HHI, but the median -2 very different things.

OP - were you truly asking for median HHI or asking about total HHI?



She's asking what your household makes relative to what this article says is the median, median is just an average. If the average household brings in $93K........where does YOUR household fall relative to that number. NOT your median, that makes NO sense. If your household brings in $110K you're above the median. So you look at the stats from the poll and you're able to ascertain how many households fall above and below where this article considers the median household income.

It's the median of all people polled, not PER household.



Ok I now understand - yes, you're correct

Posted 1/15/15 11:44 AM
 

Hofstra26
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Re: Whats your median Household income

Posted by ThreeforTea

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by ali120206

Posted by JDubs

Posted by KittyShops

Yikes lots of youse is rich.



That's what I was thinking!



Me too - I wonder if people answered for their total household income - instead of median? Just thinking based on the posts of the tax refunds that the number would be skewed lower...



You're suppose to answer based on your TOTAL household income. When the article mentions a median income it means that is what the average household makes however, half the people will fall below and above that number. I'm assuming the OP wants to know where people fall relative to what the article considers to be a median income.




I get what you are saying, but the OP did not ask for total HHI, but the median -2 very different things.

OP - were you truly asking for median HHI or asking about total HHI?



She's asking what your household makes relative to what this article says is the median, median is just an average. If the average household brings in $93K........where does YOUR household fall relative to that number. NOT your median, that makes NO sense. If your household brings in $110K you're above the median. So you look at the stats from the poll and you're able to ascertain how many households fall above and below where this article considers the median household income.

It's the median of all people polled, not PER household.



Ok I now understand - yes, you're correct



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Posted 1/15/15 11:45 AM
 

chilltocam
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Re: Whats your median Household income

Posted by ThreeforTea

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by ali120206

Posted by JDubs

Posted by KittyShops

Yikes lots of youse is rich.



That's what I was thinking!



Me too - I wonder if people answered for their total household income - instead of median? Just thinking based on the posts of the tax refunds that the number would be skewed lower...



You're suppose to answer based on your TOTAL household income. When the article mentions a median income it means that is what the average household makes however, half the people will fall below and above that number. I'm assuming the OP wants to know where people fall relative to what the article considers to be a median income.




I get what you are saying, but the OP did not ask for total HHI, but the median -2 very different things.

OP - were you truly asking for median HHI or asking about total HHI?



ok now I'm confused.



Total HHI is simple addition of all income for the household. To simplify it median income is literally the "middle" number in a sequence of numbers - so if there are 2 sources of income, add them together and divide by 2. If there are 3 numbers, it is literally the middle number in the sequence, so that half the numbers are above and half are below the median (ex. 1,2,3,5,7 - 3 is the median). When there are only 2 numbers in the sequence, the median is the average of the 2

Posted 1/15/15 11:48 AM
 

Hofstra26
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Re: Whats your median Household income

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by ThreeforTea

Posted by chilltocam

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by ali120206

Posted by JDubs

Posted by KittyShops

Yikes lots of youse is rich.



That's what I was thinking!



Me too - I wonder if people answered for their total household income - instead of median? Just thinking based on the posts of the tax refunds that the number would be skewed lower...



You're suppose to answer based on your TOTAL household income. When the article mentions a median income it means that is what the average household makes however, half the people will fall below and above that number. I'm assuming the OP wants to know where people fall relative to what the article considers to be a median income.




I get what you are saying, but the OP did not ask for total HHI, but the median -2 very different things.

OP - were you truly asking for median HHI or asking about total HHI?



ok now I'm confused.



Total HHI is simple addition of all income for the household. To simplify it median income is literally the "middle" number in a sequence of numbers - so if there are 2 sources of income, add them together and divide by 2. If there are 3 numbers, it is literally the middle number in the sequence, so that half the numbers are above and half are below the median (ex. 1,2,3,5,7 - 3 is the median). When there are only 2 numbers in the sequence, the median is the average of the 2



NM.

ETA - Basically, if you answered this poll based on your TOTAL household income, you answered CORRECTLY. Chat Icon

Message edited 1/15/2015 12:02:05 PM.

Posted 1/15/15 11:54 AM
 

Seawolf
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Re: Whats your median Household income

I don't remember MUCH about math, but isn't the median the MIDDLE - the "mean" is the average? right?

Posted 1/15/15 12:01 PM
 

MrsB12614
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Whats your median Household income

If 93k is before tax I say it's average... Post tax I'm sure for done but definitely not us!!!

Posted 1/15/15 12:03 PM
 

Hofstra26
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Re: Whats your median Household income

Posted by KittyShops

I don't remember MUCH about math, but isn't the median the MIDDLE - the "mean" is the average? right?



Yes, it's the middle however, that's still basically an average. If the median income number is $93K (that's the middle number of ALL the salaries if you lined them up) than EXACTLY HALF of all people sampled make more than that number and EXACTLY HALF make less than that.

Whenever you read an article that refers to a median household income or a median home price they are referring to what the average income/price is for whatever area they sampled whether it is local or nationwide.

Message edited 1/15/2015 12:08:11 PM.

Posted 1/15/15 12:04 PM
 

EclecticEsq10810
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Re: Whats your median Household income

Mean v. Median:

The "mean" is the "average" you're used to, where you add up all the numbers and then divide by the number of numbers.

The "median" is the "middle" value in the list of numbers. To find the median, your numbers have to be listed in numerical order, so you may have to rewrite your list first.

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Mean_vs_Median

Posted 1/15/15 12:06 PM
 

alli3131
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Re: Whats your median Household income

Posted by Jenn79

Posted by JDubs

Posted by KittyShops

Yikes lots of youse is rich.



That's what I was thinking!



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Me too!



Rich is a relative term.

Posted 1/15/15 12:15 PM
 

NervousNell
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Re: Whats your median Household income

Posted by alli3131

Posted by Jenn79

Posted by JDubs

Posted by KittyShops

Yikes lots of youse is rich.



That's what I was thinking!



Chat Icon

Me too!



Rich is a relative term.



Exactly. We fall on the higher end of the scale but we are FAR FAR from rich. We drive old cars, we barely go on vacations, I have like zero designer bags or shoes. we live comfortably but not like "rich" people. by any stretch.

Posted 1/15/15 12:25 PM
 

mommy2Alex
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Re: Whats your median Household income

I'm a SAHM with no income so I guess, our mean, median and HHI is all the same Chat Icon

Posted 1/15/15 12:37 PM
 

Sash
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Re: Whats your median Household income

Posted by EclecticEsq10810

Mean v. Median:

The "mean" is the "average" you're used to, where you add up all the numbers and then divide by the number of numbers.

The "median" is the "middle" value in the list of numbers. To find the median, your numbers have to be listed in numerical order, so you may have to rewrite your list first.

http://www.diffen.com/difference/Mean_vs_Median




And if there is no middle number you take the average of the two. So if you only have two incomes in your household, the median is the average of the two.

Eta: this is for even number sets.

Message edited 1/15/2015 12:44:23 PM.

Posted 1/15/15 12:43 PM
 

kahlua716
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Re: Whats your median Household income

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by ali120206

Posted by JDubs

Posted by KittyShops

Yikes lots of youse is rich.



That's what I was thinking!



Me too - I wonder if people answered for their total household income - instead of median? Just thinking based on the posts of the tax refunds that the number would be skewed lower...



You're suppose to answer based on your TOTAL household income. When the article mentions a median income it means that is what the average household makes however, half the people will fall below and above that number. I'm assuming the OP wants to know where people fall relative to what the article considers to be a median income.

You're not suppose to answer based on your median, you answer based on your total income and that will give you an idea of what YOUR household brings in relative to what the article considers to be an AVERAGE household income.



Exactly.

Posted 1/15/15 12:44 PM
 

Serendipity
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Re: Whats your median Household income

OP just titled the post wrong. She means "HHI". And she wants to compare it to what to the article mentioned as the average.

Message edited 1/15/2015 12:48:00 PM.

Posted 1/15/15 12:47 PM
 

Hofstra26
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Re: Whats your median Household income

Posted by Serendipity

OP just titled the post wrong. She means "HHI". And she wants to compare it to what to the article mentioned as the average.



Yes, exactly. Just remove the median from the title.

Posted 1/15/15 12:50 PM
 
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