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windyweather21
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.

This is the result.



If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.



And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.



Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?

Posted 8/3/21 2:32 PM
 
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ChilisWife

And yet when “conspiracy theorists” said this exact thing would happen last year, they were blasted for their tin foil hats.

When numbers do not go down because vaccinated people are still infecting each other, who will be blamed then?

People may applaud this but to think this government control ends at vaccines is ignorant and terrifying.




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Exactly so 100% people get vaccinated and are still getting sick, then what??????




People get sick regardless, this comment doesn't make a lot of sense. Health data shows being vaccinated means it is FAR less likely you will even get sick from this.

And in the end it's either do this, or they shut down indoor dining in the winter and destroy small businesses once again. As a PP said over 70% of NYC is vaccinated. It will be nice to enjoy things knowing I am surrounded by other vaccinated individuals. If this bothers you, get vaccinated.



Their goal is to get 100% of people vaccinated. My point being is people will STILL get sick so it should be THEIR choice, not the governments.





No because it's the unvaccinated people who are getting sick left and right. If vaccinated individuals are only 10% likely to get sick there will be more VOLUME of vaccinated people getting sick because we are still catering to the unvaccinated.

100 vaccinated people have exposure to 10 unvaccinated people = maybe 1 or 2 vaccinated get sick tops.

100 vaccinated people have exposure to 100 unvaccinated people = potential for at least 5 to 10 vaccinated people get sick.

Please tell me why should I (vaccinated) have to deal with this?



80% of the group in Providence were vaccinated that got sick.
Who is to say the vaccinated are not making the vaccinated sick? Are their stats on that?




When was it stated that 80% of the vaccinated people actually got sick? Maybe you are misinterpreting that 80% of the people that got INFECTED are vaccinated. Basic math tells you that the more vaccinated people there are, the higher of a percentage that vaccinated people can get Covid. That is a no-brainer.

The unvaccinated are making the vaccinated more sick because the numbers don't lie. If you are vaccinated you have an approximate 10% chance of getting sick. Every time you roll that dice you have a chance of getting sick and thankfully when you are vaccinated the probability is low, but NOT impossible.

It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/30/provincetown-covid-outbreak-vaccinated/

https://www.aha.org/news/headline/2021-07-30-cdc-74-infected-massachusetts-covid-19-outbreak-were-vaccinated

Posted 8/3/21 2:37 PM
 

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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.

This is the result.



If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.



And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.



Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?




A greater percentage of them are. Do I have to repeat the same statistical numbers to you? Viral loads in the unvaccinated are significantly higher than vaccinated people. If they weren't cases would be exponentially going up everywhere. They aren't because the vaccinated aren't spreading it as easily (thank god).

Posted 8/3/21 2:38 PM
 

windyweather21
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.

This is the result.



If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.




Once again I'll say the same thing.

The unvaccinated are making the vaccinated more sick because the numbers don't lie. If you are vaccinated you have an approximate 10% chance of getting sick. Every time you roll that dice you have a chance of getting sick and thankfully when you are vaccinated the probability is low, but NOT impossible. It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.




Are their stats on whom are making the vaccinated sick?

Message edited 8/3/2021 2:40:00 PM.

Posted 8/3/21 2:39 PM
 

ave1024
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ChilisWife

And yet when “conspiracy theorists” said this exact thing would happen last year, they were blasted for their tin foil hats.

When numbers do not go down because vaccinated people are still infecting each other, who will be blamed then?

People may applaud this but to think this government control ends at vaccines is ignorant and terrifying.




Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Exactly so 100% people get vaccinated and are still getting sick, then what??????




People get sick regardless, this comment doesn't make a lot of sense. Health data shows being vaccinated means it is FAR less likely you will even get sick from this.

And in the end it's either do this, or they shut down indoor dining in the winter and destroy small businesses once again. As a PP said over 70% of NYC is vaccinated. It will be nice to enjoy things knowing I am surrounded by other vaccinated individuals. If this bothers you, get vaccinated.



Their goal is to get 100% of people vaccinated. My point being is people will STILL get sick so it should be THEIR choice, not the governments.





No because it's the unvaccinated people who are getting sick left and right. If vaccinated individuals are only 10% likely to get sick there will be more VOLUME of vaccinated people getting sick because we are still catering to the unvaccinated.

100 vaccinated people have exposure to 10 unvaccinated people = maybe 1 or 2 vaccinated get sick tops.

100 vaccinated people have exposure to 100 unvaccinated people = potential for at least 5 to 10 vaccinated people get sick.

Please tell me why should I (vaccinated) have to deal with this?



80% of the group in Providence were vaccinated that got sick.
Who is to say the vaccinated are not making the vaccinated sick? Are their stats on that?




When was it stated that 80% of the vaccinated people actually got sick? Maybe you are misinterpreting that 80% of the people that got INFECTED are vaccinated. Basic math tells you that the more vaccinated people there are, the higher of a percentage that vaccinated people can get Covid. That is a no-brainer.

The unvaccinated are making the vaccinated more sick because the numbers don't lie. If you are vaccinated you have an approximate 10% chance of getting sick. Every time you roll that dice you have a chance of getting sick and thankfully when you are vaccinated the probability is low, but NOT impossible.

It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/30/provincetown-covid-outbreak-vaccinated/

https://www.aha.org/news/headline/2021-07-30-cdc-74-infected-massachusetts-covid-19-outbreak-were-vaccinated





What's your point?

CDC study shows three-fourths of people infected in Massachusetts coronavirus outbreak were vaccinated but few required hospitalization



This is nothing new. More vaccinated people = more possibilities for vaccinated to get infected.

Do you not understand basic math?

Posted 8/3/21 2:40 PM
 

windyweather21
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.

This is the result.



If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.



And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.



Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?




A greater percentage of them are. Do I have to repeat the same statistical numbers to you? Viral loads in the unvaccinated are significantly higher than vaccinated people. If they weren't cases would be exponentially going up everywhere. They aren't because the vaccinated aren't spreading it as easily (thank god).



Again we don't know that. It would all depend on each individual and whom they have been in contact with. If vaccinated people can give to other vaccinated people and the percentage of efficiency is only 84% after 4-6 months, we don't know how well the vaccine is working not to infect the vaccinated.

Posted 8/3/21 2:42 PM
 

windyweather21
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ChilisWife

And yet when “conspiracy theorists” said this exact thing would happen last year, they were blasted for their tin foil hats.

When numbers do not go down because vaccinated people are still infecting each other, who will be blamed then?

People may applaud this but to think this government control ends at vaccines is ignorant and terrifying.




Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Exactly so 100% people get vaccinated and are still getting sick, then what??????




People get sick regardless, this comment doesn't make a lot of sense. Health data shows being vaccinated means it is FAR less likely you will even get sick from this.

And in the end it's either do this, or they shut down indoor dining in the winter and destroy small businesses once again. As a PP said over 70% of NYC is vaccinated. It will be nice to enjoy things knowing I am surrounded by other vaccinated individuals. If this bothers you, get vaccinated.



Their goal is to get 100% of people vaccinated. My point being is people will STILL get sick so it should be THEIR choice, not the governments.





No because it's the unvaccinated people who are getting sick left and right. If vaccinated individuals are only 10% likely to get sick there will be more VOLUME of vaccinated people getting sick because we are still catering to the unvaccinated.

100 vaccinated people have exposure to 10 unvaccinated people = maybe 1 or 2 vaccinated get sick tops.

100 vaccinated people have exposure to 100 unvaccinated people = potential for at least 5 to 10 vaccinated people get sick.

Please tell me why should I (vaccinated) have to deal with this?



80% of the group in Providence were vaccinated that got sick.
Who is to say the vaccinated are not making the vaccinated sick? Are their stats on that?




When was it stated that 80% of the vaccinated people actually got sick? Maybe you are misinterpreting that 80% of the people that got INFECTED are vaccinated. Basic math tells you that the more vaccinated people there are, the higher of a percentage that vaccinated people can get Covid. That is a no-brainer.

The unvaccinated are making the vaccinated more sick because the numbers don't lie. If you are vaccinated you have an approximate 10% chance of getting sick. Every time you roll that dice you have a chance of getting sick and thankfully when you are vaccinated the probability is low, but NOT impossible.

It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/30/provincetown-covid-outbreak-vaccinated/

https://www.aha.org/news/headline/2021-07-30-cdc-74-infected-massachusetts-covid-19-outbreak-were-vaccinated





What's your point?

CDC study shows three-fourths of people infected in Massachusetts coronavirus outbreak were vaccinated but few required hospitalization



This is nothing new. More vaccinated people = more possibilities for vaccinated to get infected.

Do you not understand basic math?




??????

Posted 8/3/21 2:43 PM
 

ave1024
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.

This is the result.



If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.



And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.



Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?




A greater percentage of them are. Do I have to repeat the same statistical numbers to you? Viral loads in the unvaccinated are significantly higher than vaccinated people. If they weren't cases would be exponentially going up everywhere. They aren't because the vaccinated aren't spreading it as easily (thank god).



Again we don't know that. It would all depend on each individual and whom they have been in contact with. If vaccinated people can give to other vaccinated people and the percentage of efficiency is only 84% after 4-6 months, we don't know how well the vaccine is working not to infect the vaccinated.




We do know that because the cases everywhere would be skyrocketing. If the vaccinated could give the vaccinated the virus just as easily the hospitalization rates would be way up because of the sheer volume of the people being part of the unlucky 10%.

The fact is the government wants people to get the vaccination as they are trying to protect small businesses and in the end protect lives. I am all for that.

Nobody is forcing anybody to get vaccinated. If you still don't want the vaccine, don't get it! Nobody is holding a gun to your head.

Posted 8/3/21 2:45 PM
 

ave1024
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ChilisWife

And yet when “conspiracy theorists” said this exact thing would happen last year, they were blasted for their tin foil hats.

When numbers do not go down because vaccinated people are still infecting each other, who will be blamed then?

People may applaud this but to think this government control ends at vaccines is ignorant and terrifying.




Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Exactly so 100% people get vaccinated and are still getting sick, then what??????




People get sick regardless, this comment doesn't make a lot of sense. Health data shows being vaccinated means it is FAR less likely you will even get sick from this.

And in the end it's either do this, or they shut down indoor dining in the winter and destroy small businesses once again. As a PP said over 70% of NYC is vaccinated. It will be nice to enjoy things knowing I am surrounded by other vaccinated individuals. If this bothers you, get vaccinated.



Their goal is to get 100% of people vaccinated. My point being is people will STILL get sick so it should be THEIR choice, not the governments.





No because it's the unvaccinated people who are getting sick left and right. If vaccinated individuals are only 10% likely to get sick there will be more VOLUME of vaccinated people getting sick because we are still catering to the unvaccinated.

100 vaccinated people have exposure to 10 unvaccinated people = maybe 1 or 2 vaccinated get sick tops.

100 vaccinated people have exposure to 100 unvaccinated people = potential for at least 5 to 10 vaccinated people get sick.

Please tell me why should I (vaccinated) have to deal with this?



80% of the group in Providence were vaccinated that got sick.
Who is to say the vaccinated are not making the vaccinated sick? Are their stats on that?




When was it stated that 80% of the vaccinated people actually got sick? Maybe you are misinterpreting that 80% of the people that got INFECTED are vaccinated. Basic math tells you that the more vaccinated people there are, the higher of a percentage that vaccinated people can get Covid. That is a no-brainer.

The unvaccinated are making the vaccinated more sick because the numbers don't lie. If you are vaccinated you have an approximate 10% chance of getting sick. Every time you roll that dice you have a chance of getting sick and thankfully when you are vaccinated the probability is low, but NOT impossible.

It's the unvaccinated people that are causing the vaccinated to roll the dice more than they should.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/30/provincetown-covid-outbreak-vaccinated/

https://www.aha.org/news/headline/2021-07-30-cdc-74-infected-massachusetts-covid-19-outbreak-were-vaccinated





What's your point?

CDC study shows three-fourths of people infected in Massachusetts coronavirus outbreak were vaccinated but few required hospitalization



This is nothing new. More vaccinated people = more possibilities for vaccinated to get infected.

Do you not understand basic math?




??????




Pretty much my thoughts whenever I read one your posts on this topic. Chat Icon

Posted 8/3/21 2:46 PM
 

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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.

This is the result.



If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.



And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.



Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?



Are you seriously that daft? It doesn't matter. Unvaxxed people are a RISK. YOU are risk to anyone immunocompromised, elderly, or children.

Posted 8/3/21 2:48 PM
 

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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.

This is the result.



If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.



And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.



Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?



Are you seriously that daft? It doesn't matter. Unvaxxed people are a RISK. YOU are risk to anyone immunocompromised, elderly, or children.



Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

To add, the more people who are vaccinated the less likely we are to see further mutations of this virus. The more resilient the population the less virulent the virus.

Being vaccinated matters. Period. How anyone can continue to argue this point is mind numbing at his point.

Posted 8/3/21 2:52 PM
 

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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.

This is the result.



If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.



And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.



Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?



Are you seriously that daft? It doesn't matter. Unvaxxed people are a RISK. YOU are risk to anyone immunocompromised, elderly, or children.



Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

To add, the more people who are vaccinated the less likely we are to see further mutations of this virus. The more resilient the population the less virulent the virus.

Being vaccinated matters. Period. How anyone can continue to argue this point is mind numbing at his point.



RIGHT?
It's fine if you don't want to get vaccinated, but you cannot DENY that the vaccination has helped and the unvaccinated are more of a risk- to spread, mutation, etc. How can someone really deny that?

Posted 8/3/21 2:55 PM
 

windyweather21
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.

This is the result.



If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.



And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.



Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?




A greater percentage of them are. Do I have to repeat the same statistical numbers to you? Viral loads in the unvaccinated are significantly higher than vaccinated people. If they weren't cases would be exponentially going up everywhere. They aren't because the vaccinated aren't spreading it as easily (thank god).



Again we don't know that. It would all depend on each individual and whom they have been in contact with. If vaccinated people can give to other vaccinated people and the percentage of efficiency is only 84% after 4-6 months, we don't know how well the vaccine is working not to infect the vaccinated.




We do know that because the cases everywhere would be skyrocketing. If the vaccinated could give the vaccinated the virus just as easily the hospitalization rates would be way up because of the sheer volume of the people being part of the unlucky 10%.

The fact is the government wants people to get the vaccination as they are trying to protect small businesses and in the end protect lives. I am all for that.

Nobody is forcing anybody to get vaccinated. If you still don't want the vaccine, don't get it! Nobody is holding a gun to your head.




"The fact is the government wants people to get the vaccination as they are trying to protect small businesses and in the end protect lives. I am all for that.

Nobody is forcing anybody to get vaccinated. If you still don't want the vaccine, don't get it! Nobody is holding a gun to your head.


Yeah, you keep thinking that. Chat Icon

Posted 8/3/21 3:02 PM
 

windyweather21
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.

This is the result.



If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.



And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.



Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?



Are you seriously that daft? It doesn't matter. Unvaxxed people are a RISK. YOU are risk to anyone immunocompromised, elderly, or children.



Vaccinated and unvaccinated are a risk it seems if they want them to mask up again. Right?

Posted 8/3/21 3:07 PM
 

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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by Deeluvsvinny

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.

This is the result.



If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.



And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.



Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?



Are you seriously that daft? It doesn't matter. Unvaxxed people are a RISK. YOU are risk to anyone immunocompromised, elderly, or children.



Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

To add, the more people who are vaccinated the less likely we are to see further mutations of this virus. The more resilient the population the less virulent the virus.

Being vaccinated matters. Period. How anyone can continue to argue this point is mind numbing at his point.



RIGHT?
It's fine if you don't want to get vaccinated, but you cannot DENY that the vaccination has helped and the unvaccinated are more of a risk- to spread, mutation, etc. How can someone really deny that?



Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

These ridiculous, repetitive, daily conversations - which again, I cannot believe are allowed - are for the sole purpose of certain unvaccinated to desperately justify their decision.

They must, with great fervor, launch an argument against the basic truth that is clear to almost everyone - the vaccine, while not 100%, is safe and effective and is our way out of this.

Maybe a few months ago I could buy someone who was on the fence asking questions about the data. But those questions, at this point and on this board, are not being asked in good faith. They are being asked in the spirit of confirmation bias.

If (certain) unvaccinated people were that confident in their decision, they wouldn't be on here every single day trying to discredit the vaccine.

Posted 8/3/21 3:10 PM
 

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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by JennP

Posted by Deeluvsvinny

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by mrsrainbow

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.

This is the result.



If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.



And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.



Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?



Are you seriously that daft? It doesn't matter. Unvaxxed people are a RISK. YOU are risk to anyone immunocompromised, elderly, or children.



Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

To add, the more people who are vaccinated the less likely we are to see further mutations of this virus. The more resilient the population the less virulent the virus.

Being vaccinated matters. Period. How anyone can continue to argue this point is mind numbing at his point.



RIGHT?
It's fine if you don't want to get vaccinated, but you cannot DENY that the vaccination has helped and the unvaccinated are more of a risk- to spread, mutation, etc. How can someone really deny that?



Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

These ridiculous, repetitive, daily conversations - which again, I cannot believe are allowed - are for the sole purpose of certain unvaccinated to desperately justify their decision.

They must, with great fervor, launch an argument against the basic truth that is clear to almost everyone - the vaccine, while not 100%, is safe and effective and is our way out of this.

Maybe a few months ago I could buy someone who was on the fence asking questions about the data. But those questions, at this point and on this board, are not being asked in good faith. They are being asked in the spirit of confirmation bias.

If (certain) unvaccinated people were that confident in their decision, they wouldn't be on here every single day trying to discredit the vaccine.




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Posted 8/3/21 3:26 PM
 

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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by ave1024

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Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.

This is the result.



If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.



And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.



Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?




A greater percentage of them are. Do I have to repeat the same statistical numbers to you? Viral loads in the unvaccinated are significantly higher than vaccinated people. If they weren't cases would be exponentially going up everywhere. They aren't because the vaccinated aren't spreading it as easily (thank god).



Again we don't know that. It would all depend on each individual and whom they have been in contact with. If vaccinated people can give to other vaccinated people and the percentage of efficiency is only 84% after 4-6 months, we don't know how well the vaccine is working not to infect the vaccinated.




We do know that because the cases everywhere would be skyrocketing. If the vaccinated could give the vaccinated the virus just as easily the hospitalization rates would be way up because of the sheer volume of the people being part of the unlucky 10%.

The fact is the government wants people to get the vaccination as they are trying to protect small businesses and in the end protect lives. I am all for that.

Nobody is forcing anybody to get vaccinated. If you still don't want the vaccine, don't get it! Nobody is holding a gun to your head.




YOU ARE WRONG!! NYC is forcing their employees to get the shot. As someone who had a horrible reaction to the shot and went to the ER I question the safety of the shot. I was also told by more than one health care professional at the hospital that my reaction will be deemed "mild" and if a booster is required I am highly unlikely to be exempt!!

Many employers in NYC are forcing their employees to get the vaccine. First we are forced to return to the office after over a year at home and then we are told you must be vaccinated. We were also told that if you don't get the vaccination then you can't come back to the office and likely to to be fired. My husband has the antibodies (we were shocked because he was asymptomatic) and was told that he still needs the vaccine. WHY?

Don't tell me that no one is forcing you to get the vaccine. Many employers in NYC are making it a requirement to return to work in the city. I work downtown-near city hall and I can tell you it's like a ghost town. There are plenty of openings for jobs but no one wants to be forced to take a shot just for a job.

I wish I wasn't bulled into getting the shot and I seriously worry about the long term side effect which I feel no one if talking about.

But you are wrong-people are forcing you to get vaccinated.

Posted 8/3/21 3:45 PM
 

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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by JennP

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Posted by Hofstra26

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Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.

This is the result.



If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.



And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.



Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?



Are you seriously that daft? It doesn't matter. Unvaxxed people are a RISK. YOU are risk to anyone immunocompromised, elderly, or children.



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To add, the more people who are vaccinated the less likely we are to see further mutations of this virus. The more resilient the population the less virulent the virus.

Being vaccinated matters. Period. How anyone can continue to argue this point is mind numbing at his point.



RIGHT?
It's fine if you don't want to get vaccinated, but you cannot DENY that the vaccination has helped and the unvaccinated are more of a risk- to spread, mutation, etc. How can someone really deny that?



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These ridiculous, repetitive, daily conversations - which again, I cannot believe are allowed - are for the sole purpose of certain unvaccinated to desperately justify their decision.

They must, with great fervor, launch an argument against the basic truth that is clear to almost everyone - the vaccine, while not 100%, is safe and effective and is our way out of this.

Maybe a few months ago I could buy someone who was on the fence asking questions about the data. But those questions, at this point and on this board, are not being asked in good faith. They are being asked in the spirit of confirmation bias.

If (certain) unvaccinated people were that confident in their decision, they wouldn't be on here every single day trying to discredit the vaccine.




HALLE- FREAKIN-LUJAH!!!

Posted 8/3/21 3:48 PM
 

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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by JDandMe

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.

This is the result.



If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.



And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.



Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?




A greater percentage of them are. Do I have to repeat the same statistical numbers to you? Viral loads in the unvaccinated are significantly higher than vaccinated people. If they weren't cases would be exponentially going up everywhere. They aren't because the vaccinated aren't spreading it as easily (thank god).



Again we don't know that. It would all depend on each individual and whom they have been in contact with. If vaccinated people can give to other vaccinated people and the percentage of efficiency is only 84% after 4-6 months, we don't know how well the vaccine is working not to infect the vaccinated.




We do know that because the cases everywhere would be skyrocketing. If the vaccinated could give the vaccinated the virus just as easily the hospitalization rates would be way up because of the sheer volume of the people being part of the unlucky 10%.

The fact is the government wants people to get the vaccination as they are trying to protect small businesses and in the end protect lives. I am all for that.

Nobody is forcing anybody to get vaccinated. If you still don't want the vaccine, don't get it! Nobody is holding a gun to your head.




YOU ARE WRONG!! NYC is forcing their employees to get the shot. As someone who had a horrible reaction to the shot and went to the ER I question the safety of the shot. I was also told by more than one health care professional at the hospital that my reaction will be deemed "mild" and if a booster is required I am highly unlikely to be exempt!!

Many employers in NYC are forcing their employees to get the vaccine. First we are forced to return to the office after over a year at home and then we are told you must be vaccinated. We were also told that if you don't get the vaccination then you can't come back to the office and likely to to be fired. My husband has the antibodies (we were shocked because he was asymptomatic) and was told that he still needs the vaccine. WHY?

Don't tell me that no one is forcing you to get the vaccine. Many employers in NYC are making it a requirement to return to work in the city. I work downtown-near city hall and I can tell you it's like a ghost town. There are plenty of openings for jobs but no one wants to be forced to take a shot just for a job.

I wish I wasn't bulled into getting the shot and I seriously worry about the long term side effect which I feel no one if talking about.

But you are wrong-people are forcing you to get vaccinated.



Thank you for sharing your experience.

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Posted 8/3/21 3:49 PM
 

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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by JDandMe

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.

This is the result.



If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.



And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.



Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?




A greater percentage of them are. Do I have to repeat the same statistical numbers to you? Viral loads in the unvaccinated are significantly higher than vaccinated people. If they weren't cases would be exponentially going up everywhere. They aren't because the vaccinated aren't spreading it as easily (thank god).



Again we don't know that. It would all depend on each individual and whom they have been in contact with. If vaccinated people can give to other vaccinated people and the percentage of efficiency is only 84% after 4-6 months, we don't know how well the vaccine is working not to infect the vaccinated.




We do know that because the cases everywhere would be skyrocketing. If the vaccinated could give the vaccinated the virus just as easily the hospitalization rates would be way up because of the sheer volume of the people being part of the unlucky 10%.

The fact is the government wants people to get the vaccination as they are trying to protect small businesses and in the end protect lives. I am all for that.

Nobody is forcing anybody to get vaccinated. If you still don't want the vaccine, don't get it! Nobody is holding a gun to your head.




YOU ARE WRONG!! NYC is forcing their employees to get the shot. As someone who had a horrible reaction to the shot and went to the ER I question the safety of the shot. I was also told by more than one health care professional at the hospital that my reaction will be deemed "mild" and if a booster is required I am highly unlikely to be exempt!!

Many employers in NYC are forcing their employees to get the vaccine. First we are forced to return to the office after over a year at home and then we are told you must be vaccinated. We were also told that if you don't get the vaccination then you can't come back to the office and likely to to be fired. My husband has the antibodies (we were shocked because he was asymptomatic) and was told that he still needs the vaccine. WHY?

Don't tell me that no one is forcing you to get the vaccine. Many employers in NYC are making it a requirement to return to work in the city. I work downtown-near city hall and I can tell you it's like a ghost town. There are plenty of openings for jobs but no one wants to be forced to take a shot just for a job.

I wish I wasn't bulled into getting the shot and I seriously worry about the long term side effect which I feel no one if talking about.

But you are wrong-people are forcing you to get vaccinated.



Current NYC employees need to be vaccinated or be tested every week. Only new hires will be required to be vaccinated- which isn't bullying, it's their choice to take a job requiring a vaccine they don't want.
As for NYC Restaurant & Gym, Theater employees being required- it makes sense. If the patrons need to be vaccinated to be able to participate in these things, then it would be counterproductive if employees of those establishments weren't required.

Question- not to start drama- were you required to get the vaccine?

Posted 8/3/21 4:15 PM
 

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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by Deeluvsvinny

Posted by JDandMe

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.

This is the result.



If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.



And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.



Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?




A greater percentage of them are. Do I have to repeat the same statistical numbers to you? Viral loads in the unvaccinated are significantly higher than vaccinated people. If they weren't cases would be exponentially going up everywhere. They aren't because the vaccinated aren't spreading it as easily (thank god).



Again we don't know that. It would all depend on each individual and whom they have been in contact with. If vaccinated people can give to other vaccinated people and the percentage of efficiency is only 84% after 4-6 months, we don't know how well the vaccine is working not to infect the vaccinated.




We do know that because the cases everywhere would be skyrocketing. If the vaccinated could give the vaccinated the virus just as easily the hospitalization rates would be way up because of the sheer volume of the people being part of the unlucky 10%.

The fact is the government wants people to get the vaccination as they are trying to protect small businesses and in the end protect lives. I am all for that.

Nobody is forcing anybody to get vaccinated. If you still don't want the vaccine, don't get it! Nobody is holding a gun to your head.




YOU ARE WRONG!! NYC is forcing their employees to get the shot. As someone who had a horrible reaction to the shot and went to the ER I question the safety of the shot. I was also told by more than one health care professional at the hospital that my reaction will be deemed "mild" and if a booster is required I am highly unlikely to be exempt!!

Many employers in NYC are forcing their employees to get the vaccine. First we are forced to return to the office after over a year at home and then we are told you must be vaccinated. We were also told that if you don't get the vaccination then you can't come back to the office and likely to to be fired. My husband has the antibodies (we were shocked because he was asymptomatic) and was told that he still needs the vaccine. WHY?

Don't tell me that no one is forcing you to get the vaccine. Many employers in NYC are making it a requirement to return to work in the city. I work downtown-near city hall and I can tell you it's like a ghost town. There are plenty of openings for jobs but no one wants to be forced to take a shot just for a job.

I wish I wasn't bulled into getting the shot and I seriously worry about the long term side effect which I feel no one if talking about.

But you are wrong-people are forcing you to get vaccinated.



Current NYC employees need to be vaccinated or be tested every week. Only new hires will be required to be vaccinated- which isn't bullying, it's their choice to take a job requiring a vaccine they don't want.
As for NYC Restaurant & Gym, Theater employees being required- it makes sense. If the patrons need to be vaccinated to be able to participate in these things, then it would be counterproductive if employees of those establishments weren't required.

Question- not to start drama- were you required to get the vaccine?



My husband's job is requiring vaccinations to work in the office, all employees, not just new hires. Those allowed to work from home need an approved reason too and not just because they do not want to get the vaccine.

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Posted 8/3/21 4:31 PM
 

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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by KarenK122

Posted by Deeluvsvinny

Posted by JDandMe

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.

This is the result.



If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.



And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.



Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?




A greater percentage of them are. Do I have to repeat the same statistical numbers to you? Viral loads in the unvaccinated are significantly higher than vaccinated people. If they weren't cases would be exponentially going up everywhere. They aren't because the vaccinated aren't spreading it as easily (thank god).



Again we don't know that. It would all depend on each individual and whom they have been in contact with. If vaccinated people can give to other vaccinated people and the percentage of efficiency is only 84% after 4-6 months, we don't know how well the vaccine is working not to infect the vaccinated.




We do know that because the cases everywhere would be skyrocketing. If the vaccinated could give the vaccinated the virus just as easily the hospitalization rates would be way up because of the sheer volume of the people being part of the unlucky 10%.

The fact is the government wants people to get the vaccination as they are trying to protect small businesses and in the end protect lives. I am all for that.

Nobody is forcing anybody to get vaccinated. If you still don't want the vaccine, don't get it! Nobody is holding a gun to your head.




YOU ARE WRONG!! NYC is forcing their employees to get the shot. As someone who had a horrible reaction to the shot and went to the ER I question the safety of the shot. I was also told by more than one health care professional at the hospital that my reaction will be deemed "mild" and if a booster is required I am highly unlikely to be exempt!!

Many employers in NYC are forcing their employees to get the vaccine. First we are forced to return to the office after over a year at home and then we are told you must be vaccinated. We were also told that if you don't get the vaccination then you can't come back to the office and likely to to be fired. My husband has the antibodies (we were shocked because he was asymptomatic) and was told that he still needs the vaccine. WHY?

Don't tell me that no one is forcing you to get the vaccine. Many employers in NYC are making it a requirement to return to work in the city. I work downtown-near city hall and I can tell you it's like a ghost town. There are plenty of openings for jobs but no one wants to be forced to take a shot just for a job.

I wish I wasn't bulled into getting the shot and I seriously worry about the long term side effect which I feel no one if talking about.

But you are wrong-people are forcing you to get vaccinated.



Current NYC employees need to be vaccinated or be tested every week. Only new hires will be required to be vaccinated- which isn't bullying, it's their choice to take a job requiring a vaccine they don't want.
As for NYC Restaurant & Gym, Theater employees being required- it makes sense. If the patrons need to be vaccinated to be able to participate in these things, then it would be counterproductive if employees of those establishments weren't required.

Question- not to start drama- were you required to get the vaccine?



My husband's job is requiring vaccinations to work in the office, all employees, not just new hires. Those allowed to work from home need an approved reason too and not just because they do not want to get the vaccine.



but, that's a private company, right?
Not saying it's right or wrong, just saying, that's not the City or State requiring him to do, it's his company policy.

Posted 8/3/21 4:45 PM
 

Pomegranate5
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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by Deeluvsvinny

Posted by KarenK122

Posted by Deeluvsvinny

Posted by JDandMe

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.

This is the result.



If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.



And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.



Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?




A greater percentage of them are. Do I have to repeat the same statistical numbers to you? Viral loads in the unvaccinated are significantly higher than vaccinated people. If they weren't cases would be exponentially going up everywhere. They aren't because the vaccinated aren't spreading it as easily (thank god).



Again we don't know that. It would all depend on each individual and whom they have been in contact with. If vaccinated people can give to other vaccinated people and the percentage of efficiency is only 84% after 4-6 months, we don't know how well the vaccine is working not to infect the vaccinated.




We do know that because the cases everywhere would be skyrocketing. If the vaccinated could give the vaccinated the virus just as easily the hospitalization rates would be way up because of the sheer volume of the people being part of the unlucky 10%.

The fact is the government wants people to get the vaccination as they are trying to protect small businesses and in the end protect lives. I am all for that.

Nobody is forcing anybody to get vaccinated. If you still don't want the vaccine, don't get it! Nobody is holding a gun to your head.




YOU ARE WRONG!! NYC is forcing their employees to get the shot. As someone who had a horrible reaction to the shot and went to the ER I question the safety of the shot. I was also told by more than one health care professional at the hospital that my reaction will be deemed "mild" and if a booster is required I am highly unlikely to be exempt!!

Many employers in NYC are forcing their employees to get the vaccine. First we are forced to return to the office after over a year at home and then we are told you must be vaccinated. We were also told that if you don't get the vaccination then you can't come back to the office and likely to to be fired. My husband has the antibodies (we were shocked because he was asymptomatic) and was told that he still needs the vaccine. WHY?

Don't tell me that no one is forcing you to get the vaccine. Many employers in NYC are making it a requirement to return to work in the city. I work downtown-near city hall and I can tell you it's like a ghost town. There are plenty of openings for jobs but no one wants to be forced to take a shot just for a job.

I wish I wasn't bulled into getting the shot and I seriously worry about the long term side effect which I feel no one if talking about.

But you are wrong-people are forcing you to get vaccinated.



Current NYC employees need to be vaccinated or be tested every week. Only new hires will be required to be vaccinated- which isn't bullying, it's their choice to take a job requiring a vaccine they don't want.
As for NYC Restaurant & Gym, Theater employees being required- it makes sense. If the patrons need to be vaccinated to be able to participate in these things, then it would be counterproductive if employees of those establishments weren't required.

Question- not to start drama- were you required to get the vaccine?



My husband's job is requiring vaccinations to work in the office, all employees, not just new hires. Those allowed to work from home need an approved reason too and not just because they do not want to get the vaccine.



but, that's a private company, right?
Not saying it's right or wrong, just saying, that's not the City or State requiring him to do, it's his company policy.



How would this make any difference to the person being required to get the vaccine?

Posted 8/3/21 4:47 PM
 

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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by Deeluvsvinny

Posted by KarenK122

Posted by Deeluvsvinny

Posted by JDandMe

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.

This is the result.



If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.



And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.



Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?




A greater percentage of them are. Do I have to repeat the same statistical numbers to you? Viral loads in the unvaccinated are significantly higher than vaccinated people. If they weren't cases would be exponentially going up everywhere. They aren't because the vaccinated aren't spreading it as easily (thank god).



Again we don't know that. It would all depend on each individual and whom they have been in contact with. If vaccinated people can give to other vaccinated people and the percentage of efficiency is only 84% after 4-6 months, we don't know how well the vaccine is working not to infect the vaccinated.




We do know that because the cases everywhere would be skyrocketing. If the vaccinated could give the vaccinated the virus just as easily the hospitalization rates would be way up because of the sheer volume of the people being part of the unlucky 10%.

The fact is the government wants people to get the vaccination as they are trying to protect small businesses and in the end protect lives. I am all for that.

Nobody is forcing anybody to get vaccinated. If you still don't want the vaccine, don't get it! Nobody is holding a gun to your head.




YOU ARE WRONG!! NYC is forcing their employees to get the shot. As someone who had a horrible reaction to the shot and went to the ER I question the safety of the shot. I was also told by more than one health care professional at the hospital that my reaction will be deemed "mild" and if a booster is required I am highly unlikely to be exempt!!

Many employers in NYC are forcing their employees to get the vaccine. First we are forced to return to the office after over a year at home and then we are told you must be vaccinated. We were also told that if you don't get the vaccination then you can't come back to the office and likely to to be fired. My husband has the antibodies (we were shocked because he was asymptomatic) and was told that he still needs the vaccine. WHY?

Don't tell me that no one is forcing you to get the vaccine. Many employers in NYC are making it a requirement to return to work in the city. I work downtown-near city hall and I can tell you it's like a ghost town. There are plenty of openings for jobs but no one wants to be forced to take a shot just for a job.

I wish I wasn't bulled into getting the shot and I seriously worry about the long term side effect which I feel no one if talking about.

But you are wrong-people are forcing you to get vaccinated.



Current NYC employees need to be vaccinated or be tested every week. Only new hires will be required to be vaccinated- which isn't bullying, it's their choice to take a job requiring a vaccine they don't want.
As for NYC Restaurant & Gym, Theater employees being required- it makes sense. If the patrons need to be vaccinated to be able to participate in these things, then it would be counterproductive if employees of those establishments weren't required.

Question- not to start drama- were you required to get the vaccine?



My husband's job is requiring vaccinations to work in the office, all employees, not just new hires. Those allowed to work from home need an approved reason too and not just because they do not want to get the vaccine.



but, that's a private company, right?
Not saying it's right or wrong, just saying, that's not the City or State requiring him to do, it's his company policy.



See, I feel like if a private company decides on it's own to mandate anything, that's their prerogative. What I'm taking issue with is the city FORCING private businesses to mandate something when the private business may not want to.
If a restaurant says, we only want vaccinated people in here, fine, they can do that.
But if they don't want to do that, they shouldn't be forced.
That is what I have issue with.

Posted 8/3/21 4:47 PM
 

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Re: Nyc requiring all customers vaccinated: “Keys to NY”

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Deeluvsvinny

Posted by KarenK122

Posted by Deeluvsvinny

Posted by JDandMe

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by ave1024

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by BFNY516

1 in 3 covid cases were from people in Texas and Florida the other day. I wouldn’t want those people hanging around visiting NYC spreading it, not sorry. I think NYC is doing the right thing, especially as a huge hub. People have had plenty of time to get vaccinated. They aren’t and they are hanging around without masks. Look at Louisiana. They have a federal response team in place now.

This is the result.



If you are vaccinated then you shouldn't worry.



And if people want to visit NYC and enjoy dining, concerts, and theater, then they should get vaccinated.



Why? Not all unvaccinated people are infecting vaccinated, correct?




A greater percentage of them are. Do I have to repeat the same statistical numbers to you? Viral loads in the unvaccinated are significantly higher than vaccinated people. If they weren't cases would be exponentially going up everywhere. They aren't because the vaccinated aren't spreading it as easily (thank god).



Again we don't know that. It would all depend on each individual and whom they have been in contact with. If vaccinated people can give to other vaccinated people and the percentage of efficiency is only 84% after 4-6 months, we don't know how well the vaccine is working not to infect the vaccinated.




We do know that because the cases everywhere would be skyrocketing. If the vaccinated could give the vaccinated the virus just as easily the hospitalization rates would be way up because of the sheer volume of the people being part of the unlucky 10%.

The fact is the government wants people to get the vaccination as they are trying to protect small businesses and in the end protect lives. I am all for that.

Nobody is forcing anybody to get vaccinated. If you still don't want the vaccine, don't get it! Nobody is holding a gun to your head.




YOU ARE WRONG!! NYC is forcing their employees to get the shot. As someone who had a horrible reaction to the shot and went to the ER I question the safety of the shot. I was also told by more than one health care professional at the hospital that my reaction will be deemed "mild" and if a booster is required I am highly unlikely to be exempt!!

Many employers in NYC are forcing their employees to get the vaccine. First we are forced to return to the office after over a year at home and then we are told you must be vaccinated. We were also told that if you don't get the vaccination then you can't come back to the office and likely to to be fired. My husband has the antibodies (we were shocked because he was asymptomatic) and was told that he still needs the vaccine. WHY?

Don't tell me that no one is forcing you to get the vaccine. Many employers in NYC are making it a requirement to return to work in the city. I work downtown-near city hall and I can tell you it's like a ghost town. There are plenty of openings for jobs but no one wants to be forced to take a shot just for a job.

I wish I wasn't bulled into getting the shot and I seriously worry about the long term side effect which I feel no one if talking about.

But you are wrong-people are forcing you to get vaccinated.



Current NYC employees need to be vaccinated or be tested every week. Only new hires will be required to be vaccinated- which isn't bullying, it's their choice to take a job requiring a vaccine they don't want.
As for NYC Restaurant & Gym, Theater employees being required- it makes sense. If the patrons need to be vaccinated to be able to participate in these things, then it would be counterproductive if employees of those establishments weren't required.

Question- not to start drama- were you required to get the vaccine?



My husband's job is requiring vaccinations to work in the office, all employees, not just new hires. Those allowed to work from home need an approved reason too and not just because they do not want to get the vaccine.



but, that's a private company, right?
Not saying it's right or wrong, just saying, that's not the City or State requiring him to do, it's his company policy.



See, I feel like if a private company decides on it's own to mandate anything, that's their prerogative. What I'm taking issue with is the city FORCING private businesses to mandate something when the private business may not want to.
If a restaurant says, we only want vaccinated people in here, fine, they can do that.
But if they don't want to do that, they shouldn't be forced.
That is what I have issue with.




We are not in the city (but all of NY is probably going to follow suit - especially on the island) we will NOT force our employees to be vaccinated nor will we deny service to the unvaccinated. If there are fine, they’ll be fining a boat load of small businesses and we’ll be spending any free time we have fighting it in court.

We reopened during the height of all of this. We had masks, we did a lot of drop offs and pick ups outside, we had deep cleaning every couple of hours and were able to keep everyone safe (DH and I got it either from my dentist appt or from his asymptomatic mom - though his mom tested + after us- we’ll never truly know)

If it gets that bad again, we’ll just go back to that. This is maddening

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