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Re: In your opinion, what is an acceptable age for
You can text on a non-smart phone. Kids are texting more now than calling and this is just the times and it is not going to change.
I think as your kids get older, you will see how things are done. It sounds foreign to someone who has smaller children, as it would be to me too if I didn't have kids who were older.
It is just something you get used to as the norm.
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Re: In your opinion, what is an acceptable age for
Please dont take this the wrong way, but I think the reason it is that way is because it's allowed to be that way. If people wouldn't give their kids Iphones, would they still be texting everything vs talking to someone? Based on what kids do these days with social media and how bullying has changed, I would rather him be a freak during school hours than be bombarded with God knows what in school, after school, etc.
This shouldn't be the norm. Kids are kids...not little adults. They need to stop being treated that way. Maybe my view will change later on, but I can't imagine spending the money on it. I don't even really want to spend it on myself. I don't want him having full access to the internet either.
ETA: Not for nothing, but if DS is going to be judged on what pricey high tech gadgets he has, well he's going have more issues than a phone. Those things are not a financial priority for us. Where do people get all this money to shower fancy ipads and iphones and the like? I don't even have a tablet? At all. For myself!!! Why is this even being judged as important? Why are we telling and SHOWING our kids this is important?
I'm sorry for the rant. It boggles my mind. I see people that don't have a pot to piss in with all this stuff and it drives me nuts! When do people realize they can make their own decisions and make some things a priority and others not? It is this way because people decide it should be that way.
1. You can text on a non-smart phone so it is not just kids having iphones who can text. My oldest did not have an iphone until recently (she will be 16 this year). She started with a non-smartphone and then only got a smartphone when I got a new phone and gave her my old. My youngest who will be in middle school just got a phone as we did upgrades and decided to just get it now. It is a non-smart phone and he only uses it now as an alarm but I will feel better with him having it next year to call me.
2. You can get an iphone for free or very little money so the assumption that iphones are expensive are untrue.
3. Unfortunately, in this aspect of communication, the world has changed and it will not go back to the way it was when we were kids. There are no pay phones anymore to call so you need a phone. We just need to be aware of what our kids are doing, saying to others and stop certain communications and social media if it is going bad.
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| Posted 3/5/14 10:50 AM |
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Re: In your opinion, what is an acceptable age for
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Here's the problem with this: people don't talk on the phone anymore! Adults and kids! Kids text each other if they have a question about hw. Email is even old fashioned now! I had a mom that I never spoke with and don't know what she looks like text me to invite DD to her DDs party.
So although I agree with you and am old fashioned as well it's not today's reality. If we tell our kids in middle school that they MUST call their friend they will feel like a freak and I don't want to do that to my children either.
I agree with this. Many of the people who are quoting high ages are the ones with small children now. I said I wouldn't do it, and here I am. My daughter has an Iphone. The fact is, kids who don't have social media and phones are ousted by the other kids and made fun of. Fortunately, my daughter realizes that what she does on social media is forever. It won't go away. So she is responsible. To me, thats whats lacking, education by parents about the reprecussions that come with social media.
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| Posted 3/5/14 10:51 AM |
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Re: In your opinion, what is an acceptable age for
Posted by LittleBlueBug
Posted by busymomonli
Posted by stinger
Here's the problem with this: people don't talk on the phone anymore! Adults and kids! Kids text each other if they have a question about hw. Email is even old fashioned now! I had a mom that I never spoke with and don't know what she looks like text me to invite DD to her DDs party.
So although I agree with you and am old fashioned as well it's not today's reality. If we tell our kids in middle school that they MUST call their friend they will feel like a freak and I don't want to do that to my children either.
I agree with this. Many of the people who are quoting high ages are the ones with small children now. I said I wouldn't do it, and here I am. My daughter has an Iphone. The fact is, kids who don't have social media and phones are ousted by the other kids and made fun of. Fortunately, my daughter realizes that what she does on social media is forever. It won't go away. So she is responsible. To me, thats whats lacking, education by parents about the reprecussions that come with social media.
I plan on having the discussion with my children about social media. I know it's a reality. There are kids who have social media who get made fun of too...24 hours a day...on social media. Look, that is also up to the parents to educate that no everyone will be allowed to have it because its a responsibility and not all 14 year olds are responsible. I am not letting a bunch of 14 year olds make parenting choices for me either. Why not just also educate your kids, while you are educating them how to use it, that not everyone has it and people should not be judged because of what people do and do not have.
My thoughts exactly.
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Re: In your opinion, what is an acceptable age for
Posted by afternoondelight828
Please dont take this the wrong way, but I think the reason it is that way is because it's allowed to be that way. If people wouldn't give their kids Iphones, would they still be texting everything vs talking to someone? Based on what kids do these days with social media and how bullying has changed, I would rather him be a freak during school hours than be bombarded with God knows what in school, after school, etc.
This shouldn't be the norm. Kids are kids...not little adults. They need to stop being treated that way. Maybe my view will change later on, but I can't imagine spending the money on it. I don't even really want to spend it on myself. I don't want him having full access to the internet either.
ETA: Not for nothing, but if DS is going to be judged on what pricey high tech gadgets he has, well he's going have more issues than a phone. Those things are not a financial priority for us. Where do people get all this money to shower fancy ipads and iphones and the like? I don't even have a tablet? At all. For myself!!! Why is this even being judged as important? Why are we telling and SHOWING our kids this is important?
I'm sorry for the rant. It boggles my mind. I see people that don't have a pot to piss in with all this stuff and it drives me nuts! When do people realize they can make their own decisions and make some things a priority and others not? It is this way because people decide it should be that way.
1. You can text on a non-smart phone so it is not just kids having iphones who can text. My oldest did not have an iphone until recently (she will be 16 this year). She started with a non-smartphone and then only got a smartphone when I got a new phone and gave her my old. My youngest who will be in middle school just got a phone as we did upgrades and decided to just get it now. It is a non-smart phone and he only uses it now as an alarm but I will feel better with him having it next year to call me.
2. You can get an iphone for free or very little money so the assumption that iphones are expensive are untrue.
3. Unfortunately, in this aspect of communication, the world has changed and it will not go back to the way it was when we were kids. There are no pay phones anymore to call so you need a phone. We just need to be aware of what our kids are doing, saying to others and stop certain communications and social media if it is going bad.
Oh I never said DS wasn't going to have a phone. He can text. I just don't want him to have internet access. I have a phone I use as an alarm clock that would be suitable for him when he is old enough and needs a phone. The service will be very limited until they are old enough to work and pay for the upgrade themselves.
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| Posted 3/5/14 10:59 PM |
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In your opinion, what is an acceptable age for
I'd say jr high school and I would require them to be my friend and give me the password or suffer the consequences
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| Posted 3/6/14 3:34 AM |
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Re: In your opinion, what is an acceptable age for
Posted by stinger
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But I also don't think a kid needs a cell phone before then either (maybe a prepaid one with very few minutes, for safety, not for socializing)
This is exactly. No smartphones.
I dont have a smartphone but the last time I got a new cell phone the guy in the store said any day now they will ONLY make smartphones. I guess maybe you can not get a data plan for internet.
This is true, when we tried upgrading our phones we were looking for a no smartphone at the verizon store. They on,y had one and it was more money. The smartphones were cheaper but you couldn't buy one without getting data.we ended up changing companies and getting smartphones with unlimited data...
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Re: In your opinion, what is an acceptable age for
I have to say, as a mom, and a middle school teacher,I just can't allow my kid to use social media without heavy supervision.
I am most concerned with the more secretive forms of social media - Instagram and snapchat. Regardless of whether or not YOU have their password kids can still get around it with private groups and distribution lists.
These kids are SMART about hiding social media. As a result, they often harm themselves. I have seen WAY too many kids wind up in the counselor's office because they didn't understand the consequences and did irreparable damage to their future (posting inappropriate pictures and information).
Oh, and just because YOU might have a password to their FB doesn't mean that they don't have another account. I've seen kids make multiple pages at school. (I make sure I call home if/when I see or hear about it). Kids use other kids' phones and computers during lunch time or after school. Don't be naive! If kids want access they'll find it.
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Re: In your opinion, what is an acceptable age for
Posted by LittleBlueBug
Posted by afternoondelight828
Please dont take this the wrong way, but I think the reason it is that way is because it's allowed to be that way. If people wouldn't give their kids Iphones, would they still be texting everything vs talking to someone? Based on what kids do these days with social media and how bullying has changed, I would rather him be a freak during school hours than be bombarded with God knows what in school, after school, etc.
This shouldn't be the norm. Kids are kids...not little adults. They need to stop being treated that way. Maybe my view will change later on, but I can't imagine spending the money on it. I don't even really want to spend it on myself. I don't want him having full access to the internet either.
ETA: Not for nothing, but if DS is going to be judged on what pricey high tech gadgets he has, well he's going have more issues than a phone. Those things are not a financial priority for us. Where do people get all this money to shower fancy ipads and iphones and the like? I don't even have a tablet? At all. For myself!!! Why is this even being judged as important? Why are we telling and SHOWING our kids this is important?
I'm sorry for the rant. It boggles my mind. I see people that don't have a pot to piss in with all this stuff and it drives me nuts! When do people realize they can make their own decisions and make some things a priority and others not? It is this way because people decide it should be that way.
1. You can text on a non-smart phone so it is not just kids having iphones who can text. My oldest did not have an iphone until recently (she will be 16 this year). She started with a non-smartphone and then only got a smartphone when I got a new phone and gave her my old. My youngest who will be in middle school just got a phone as we did upgrades and decided to just get it now. It is a non-smart phone and he only uses it now as an alarm but I will feel better with him having it next year to call me.
2. You can get an iphone for free or very little money so the assumption that iphones are expensive are untrue.
3. Unfortunately, in this aspect of communication, the world has changed and it will not go back to the way it was when we were kids. There are no pay phones anymore to call so you need a phone. We just need to be aware of what our kids are doing, saying to others and stop certain communications and social media if it is going bad.
Oh I never said DS wasn't going to have a phone. He can text. I just don't want him to have internet access. I have a phone I use as an alarm clock that would be suitable for him when he is old enough and needs a phone. The service will be very limited until they are old enough to work and pay for the upgrade themselves.
That is good, especially with kids just starting out.
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Re: In your opinion, what is an acceptable age for
Posted by justbeachy
I have to say, as a mom, and a middle school teacher,I just can't allow my kid to use social media without heavy supervision.
I am most concerned with the more secretive forms of social media - Instagram and snapchat. Regardless of whether or not YOU have their password kids can still get around it with private groups and distribution lists.
These kids are SMART about hiding social media. As a result, they often harm themselves. I have seen WAY too many kids wind up in the counselor's office because they didn't understand the consequences and did irreparable damage to their future (posting inappropriate pictures and information).
Oh, and just because YOU might have a password to their FB doesn't mean that they don't have another account. I've seen kids make multiple pages at school. (I make sure I call home if/when I see or hear about it). Kids use other kids' phones and computers during lunch time or after school. Don't be naive! If kids want access they'll find it.
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Re: In your opinion, what is an acceptable age for
Posted by justbeachy
I have to say, as a mom, and a middle school teacher,I just can't allow my kid to use social media without heavy supervision.
I am most concerned with the more secretive forms of social media - Instagram and snapchat. Regardless of whether or not YOU have their password kids can still get around it with private groups and distribution lists.
These kids are SMART about hiding social media. As a result, they often harm themselves. I have seen WAY too many kids wind up in the counselor's office because they didn't understand the consequences and did irreparable damage to their future (posting inappropriate pictures and information).
Oh, and just because YOU might have a password to their FB doesn't mean that they don't have another account. I've seen kids make multiple pages at school. (I make sure I call home if/when I see or hear about it). Kids use other kids' phones and computers during lunch time or after school. Don't be naive! If kids want access they'll find it.
My husband a high school teacher and always said nothing good comes from social media with these teenagers. His kids tell him a lot and he hears things when they thing he not listening. It's scary!! I know my friend sister has a middle schooler and high schooler. She is always talking about her kids gets texts and posts on social media of some girl in school boobs ( no shirt) or some other sexy picture. These girls could take the picture fast with their phones and send it to whoever, then delete it real fast. You as a parent may not even know but now it's out there sending to everyone. The kids also make up secret screen names on FB. You might not even know it exsists. I have a teenage niece and I see what goes on. Let's be honest, young kids can be very stupid and not even think about consequences of their actions. I guess the only thing that you can do is hold out on phone and social media as long as you can. Also make sure to talk to your kids a lot about what consequences can happen from social media a use. I know the reality that it's getting younger and younger. I'm okay with a phone but still against FB till yhey are much older.
The whole think scares me as a parent. I will have one rule I will not break especially. No phones at dinner table, when we go to family for special holidays and nothing at night. My husband says the kids are on the computers phones all night long and it's very bad. They get addicted and don't sleep. I know young family members who come to Christmas, thanksgiving, etc.... And sit on the phone the whole time even at dinner table. Could be 4 hours of no socializing. Horrible!!!
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Re: In your opinion, what is an acceptable age for
Posted by justbeachy
Oh, and just because YOU might have a password to their FB doesn't mean that they don't have another account. I've seen kids make multiple pages at school. (I make sure I call home if/when I see or hear about it). Kids use other kids' phones and computers during lunch time or after school. Don't be naive! If kids want access they'll find it.
So true!
In our case, my son has special needs, so I know for a fact he wouldn't create another account behind my back. Not even sure he is savvy enough to create an email account that is required to create a FB account. My daughter will be a different story when she grows up though.
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Re: In your opinion, what is an acceptable age for
In a perfect world.. 15
Realistically, 12.
As with everything else, this really depends on the individual.
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In your opinion, what is an acceptable age for
My Stepdaughters mom allowed her to have an Instagram at NINE. Personally, I don't believe children should be introduced to social media until at least middle school NO MATTER WHAT THEIR FRIENDS ARE DOING. The account was unsupervised and public. Children are naive and don't realize what they are doing sometimes. She requested me, and what my husband and I saw was appalling and frightening! Being public, any Tom, ****, and Harry can see all of her posts, she had over 200 people following her and she was following over 240 people. Why would a college student from Rhode Island who posts half naked pics follow a 9 year old girl???? I would have pulled her right off Instagram, but now her profile is private and she is SUPPOSED TO get approval from her mom whenever she requests or accepts people. She does not. Just about all of her friends have an Instagram.
My point is the internet is a scary place out there with dangerous people. IMO no child should be given access to social media outlets at such an early age. If it were up to me there would be no Instagram, Facebook, snapchat...etc until at least 12/13/14ish and I agree with pp, definitely depends on the individual.
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Re: In your opinion, what is an acceptable age for
I just let my daughter have an account she will be 15 in 3 weeks
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