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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
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Posted by BFNY516
This thread made me recall that I was reading something that said that employers may mandate vaccines for employees who are returning to work. It sounds like there are ways around it… Like if you decline, then you’d have to work from home. But essentially, employers can require it.
It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out in the various industries.
Someone asked about this on a company call last week and HR and the legal team almost had a heart attack saying they cannot mandate vaccines for us to return to work as there would be many legal ramifications and it could lead to lawsuits. They were uncomfortable even talking about it. They said they definitely would not be doing it.
My company (50,000 employees) emailed us saying they will not require the vaccine because choosing whether to receive a vaccine or not is a personal choice. I applaud them.
That is wonderful, they get it.
Like someone else posted above, most big companies don't want to touch this with a 10 foot pole. Too many legal issues. My company didn't even want to discuss it too much, they sounded uncomfortable when it was brought up on the call.....just said they can't and won't require it
I agree, I don't think any companies would mandate a vaccine. My DH is an executive in his company and I know they already squashed that. I think where you might see a possible mandate is with public venues as those companies might not want the liability of large gatherings which could lead to a possible superspreader event.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by shadows
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by BFNY516
This thread made me recall that I was reading something that said that employers may mandate vaccines for employees who are returning to work. It sounds like there are ways around it… Like if you decline, then you’d have to work from home. But essentially, employers can require it.
It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out in the various industries.
Someone asked about this on a company call last week and HR and the legal team almost had a heart attack saying they cannot mandate vaccines for us to return to work as there would be many legal ramifications and it could lead to lawsuits. They were uncomfortable even talking about it. They said they definitely would not be doing it.
My company (50,000 employees) emailed us saying they will not require the vaccine because choosing whether to receive a vaccine or not is a personal choice. I applaud them.
That is wonderful, they get it.
Like someone else posted above, most big companies don't want to touch this with a 10 foot pole. Too many legal issues. My company didn't even want to discuss it too much, they sounded uncomfortable when it was brought up on the call.....just said they can't and won't require it
Probably many won’t.
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Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
I don't think it matters. I am still going to wear a mask as it is my understanding that the vaccine may not be 100% effective
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Mrs213
I don't think it matters. I am still going to wear a mask as it is my understanding that the vaccine may not be 100% effective
Everyone should be able to choose their own level of comfort.
I have seen friends for 10 months inside and outside, homes and restaurants, no masks.
Will wear a mask wherever I am told I need one but ready to get rid of it as soon as I can.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Mrs213
I don't think it matters. I am still going to wear a mask as it is my understanding that the vaccine may not be 100% effective
Agreed. Plus, the more this thing spreads, the more potential for it to mutate into variants that are vaccine-resistant, and we won't know about those until they're already in circulation.
We will know whether the vaccinations are helping us to outrun this thing to normality when the numbers dip way down.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by seaside
Posted by Mrs213
I don't think it matters. I am still going to wear a mask as it is my understanding that the vaccine may not be 100% effective
Agreed. Plus, the more this thing spreads, the more potential for it to mutate into variants that are vaccine-resistant, and we won't know about those until they're already in circulation.
We will know whether the vaccinations are helping us to outrun this thing to normality when the numbers dip way down.
The numbers have been going down. I do agree we need to see how low it will go with vaccines. LI is 4% right now the highest in NY. Not as bad as the 12% we were at a few months ago.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by seaside
Can anyone claiming that HIPAA can interfere with the ability of the government or private entities to collect information necessary for public health please explain their understanding of the law and how it works?
Or at least how their understanding differs from this: https://www.cdc.gov/nhsn/hipaa/index.html
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Because there's a lot of misinformation flying around.
There are so many inaccuracies posted on this thread. But VB is only looking to make her point and attempt to get people to agree with her, so I will not comment on anything else but this. HIPAA prohibits covered medical providers from disclosing your medical information to third parties (with some exceptions). It prohibits providers from disclosing medical information that would identify YOU. It does not prevent disclosure of information from which the individual cannot be identified. It does not prevent any individual from disclosing their own medical information. If a private company (whether it be a sports arena, concert venue, etc) requires proof of vaccination for entry, then they are within their rights to do so. Anyone wanting to go to those places has a choice to share their own information, or not patronize those locations. I am not sure how this would apply to private companies that are highly regulated by the government- such as the transportation industry (airlines, trains etc.). I hope this answers your question. Feel free to PM me if you have more questions
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by seaside
Can anyone claiming that HIPAA can interfere with the ability of the government or private entities to collect information necessary for public health please explain their understanding of the law and how it works?
Or at least how their understanding differs from this: https://www.cdc.gov/nhsn/hipaa/index.html
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Because there's a lot of misinformation flying around.
There are so many inaccuracies posted on this thread. But VB is only looking to make her point and attempt to get people to agree with her, so I will not comment on anything else but this. HIPAA prohibits covered medical providers from disclosing your medical information to third parties (with some exceptions). It prohibits providers from disclosing medical information that would identify YOU. It does not prevent disclosure of information from which the individual cannot be identified. It does not prevent any individual from disclosing their own medical information. If a private company (whether it be a sports arena, concert venue, etc) requires proof of vaccination for entry, then they are within their rights to do so. Anyone wanting to go to those places has a choice to share their own information, or not patronize those locations. I am not sure how this would apply to private companies that are highly regulated by the government- such as the transportation industry (airlines, trains etc.). I hope this answers your question. Feel free to PM me if you have more questions
 And thank you.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by seaside
Can anyone claiming that HIPAA can interfere with the ability of the government or private entities to collect information necessary for public health please explain their understanding of the law and how it works?
Or at least how their understanding differs from this: https://www.cdc.gov/nhsn/hipaa/index.html
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Because there's a lot of misinformation flying around.
There are so many inaccuracies posted on this thread. But VB is only looking to make her point and attempt to get people to agree with her, so I will not comment on anything else but this. HIPAA prohibits covered medical providers from disclosing your medical information to third parties (with some exceptions). It prohibits providers from disclosing medical information that would identify YOU. It does not prevent disclosure of information from which the individual cannot be identified. It does not prevent any individual from disclosing their own medical information. If a private company (whether it be a sports arena, concert venue, etc) requires proof of vaccination for entry, then they are within their rights to do so. Anyone wanting to go to those places has a choice to share their own information, or not patronize those locations. I am not sure how this would apply to private companies that are highly regulated by the government- such as the transportation industry (airlines, trains etc.). I hope this answers your question. Feel free to PM me if you have more questions
I think in the long run it will all come down to money. People who won’t get the vaccine won’t get it to go to a concert or travel. I have a vacation planned and will cancel if they require the vaccine. My money might not be a big deal but times that by say 100 people and then they will lose out a lot.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Mrs213
I don't think it matters. I am still going to wear a mask as it is my understanding that the vaccine may not be 100% effective
Agree, NO vaccine is 100% effective.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Diane
Posted by Mrs213
I don't think it matters. I am still going to wear a mask as it is my understanding that the vaccine may not be 100% effective
Agree, NO vaccine is 100% effective.
This is exactly why I'm a little hesitant about this message going out.
I think masks should still be encouraged for a bit longer.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Diane
Posted by Mrs213
I don't think it matters. I am still going to wear a mask as it is my understanding that the vaccine may not be 100% effective
Agree, NO vaccine is 100% effective.
But does that mean masks will never go away? The flu shot is not 100% and you can get sick from someone else if they have it. No one is walking around with a mask on for that.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by MissJones
Posted by Diane
Posted by Mrs213
I don't think it matters. I am still going to wear a mask as it is my understanding that the vaccine may not be 100% effective
Agree, NO vaccine is 100% effective.
This is exactly why I'm a little hesitant about this message going out.
I think masks should still be encouraged for a bit longer.
I think people should decide at this point, especially after being vaccinated.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Diane
Posted by Mrs213
I don't think it matters. I am still going to wear a mask as it is my understanding that the vaccine may not be 100% effective
Agree, NO vaccine is 100% effective.
But does that mean masks will never go away? The flu shot is not 100% and you can get sick from someone else if they have it. No one is walking around with a mask on for that.
Probably because the flu isn't as deadly. The flu never killed almost 600,000 Americans in one year.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by seaside
Can anyone claiming that HIPAA can interfere with the ability of the government or private entities to collect information necessary for public health please explain their understanding of the law and how it works?
Or at least how their understanding differs from this: https://www.cdc.gov/nhsn/hipaa/index.html
???
Because there's a lot of misinformation flying around.
There are so many inaccuracies posted on this thread. But VB is only looking to make her point and attempt to get people to agree with her, so I will not comment on anything else but this. HIPAA prohibits covered medical providers from disclosing your medical information to third parties (with some exceptions). It prohibits providers from disclosing medical information that would identify YOU. It does not prevent disclosure of information from which the individual cannot be identified. It does not prevent any individual from disclosing their own medical information. If a private company (whether it be a sports arena, concert venue, etc) requires proof of vaccination for entry, then they are within their rights to do so. Anyone wanting to go to those places has a choice to share their own information, or not patronize those locations. I am not sure how this would apply to private companies that are highly regulated by the government- such as the transportation industry (airlines, trains etc.). I hope this answers your question. Feel free to PM me if you have more questions
I think in the long run it will all come down to money. People who won’t get the vaccine won’t get it to go to a concert or travel. I have a vacation planned and will cancel if they require the vaccine. My money might not be a big deal but times that by say 100 people and then they will lose out a lot.
I think people will. This is what convinced my DH to get it - he was on the fence otherwise. Many people who are unsure will get the vaccine if they feel it's the path to resuming normal life.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by ali120206
I think people will. This is what convinced my DH to get it - he was on the fence otherwise. Many people who are unsure will get the vaccine if they feel it's the path to resuming normal life.
Vaccine hesitancy has dropped significantly since November. People see that millions of people have been vaccinated with minor side effects post injection and that there might indeed be a light at the end of this tunnel.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Diane
Posted by Mrs213
I don't think it matters. I am still going to wear a mask as it is my understanding that the vaccine may not be 100% effective
Agree, NO vaccine is 100% effective.
But does that mean masks will never go away? The flu shot is not 100% and you can get sick from someone else if they have it. No one is walking around with a mask on for that.
Probably because the flu isn't as deadly. The flu never killed almost 600,000 Americans in one year.
But the flu kills, just like every other virus kills. Covid numbers are added into other issues so only 6% die ONLY of covid. People who have cancer are many times put down as died from pneumonia. Is that number wrong too as they should be only cancer?
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by ali120206
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by chilltocam
Posted by seaside
Can anyone claiming that HIPAA can interfere with the ability of the government or private entities to collect information necessary for public health please explain their understanding of the law and how it works?
Or at least how their understanding differs from this: https://www.cdc.gov/nhsn/hipaa/index.html
???
Because there's a lot of misinformation flying around.
There are so many inaccuracies posted on this thread. But VB is only looking to make her point and attempt to get people to agree with her, so I will not comment on anything else but this. HIPAA prohibits covered medical providers from disclosing your medical information to third parties (with some exceptions). It prohibits providers from disclosing medical information that would identify YOU. It does not prevent disclosure of information from which the individual cannot be identified. It does not prevent any individual from disclosing their own medical information. If a private company (whether it be a sports arena, concert venue, etc) requires proof of vaccination for entry, then they are within their rights to do so. Anyone wanting to go to those places has a choice to share their own information, or not patronize those locations. I am not sure how this would apply to private companies that are highly regulated by the government- such as the transportation industry (airlines, trains etc.). I hope this answers your question. Feel free to PM me if you have more questions
I think in the long run it will all come down to money. People who won’t get the vaccine won’t get it to go to a concert or travel. I have a vacation planned and will cancel if they require the vaccine. My money might not be a big deal but times that by say 100 people and then they will lose out a lot.
I think people will. This is what convinced my DH to get it - he was on the fence otherwise. Many people who are unsure will get the vaccine if they feel it's the path to resuming normal life.
Yes maybe some but I would not get it to go to a concert and I honestly don’t think they will make you do that as they have fans in places now without it.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by PitterPatter11
Posted by ali120206
I think people will. This is what convinced my DH to get it - he was on the fence otherwise. Many people who are unsure will get the vaccine if they feel it's the path to resuming normal life.
Vaccine hesitancy has dropped significantly since November. People see that millions of people have been vaccinated with minor side effects post injection and that there might indeed be a light at the end of this tunnel.
That’s only 4 months and most are just getting their 1st or 2nd now so not long term at all.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Diane
Posted by Mrs213
I don't think it matters. I am still going to wear a mask as it is my understanding that the vaccine may not be 100% effective
Agree, NO vaccine is 100% effective.
But does that mean masks will never go away? The flu shot is not 100% and you can get sick from someone else if they have it. No one is walking around with a mask on for that.
Probably because the flu isn't as deadly. The flu never killed almost 600,000 Americans in one year.
But the flu kills, just like every other virus kills. Covid numbers are added into other issues so only 6% die ONLY of covid. People who have cancer are many times put down as died from pneumonia. Is that number wrong too as they should be only cancer?
A year later and you're still stupidly comparing COVID to the flu??????? The flu doesn't kill over 600K people a season.
Also, please realize the significant number of people that have pre-existing conditions, many of which are undiagnosed, and which greatly increase the risk factor of COVID. Using your example, if someone had cancer, contracts COVID and subsequently dies they did NOT die from cancer, they died from complications of COVID. Maybe they would have lived another year even with their cancer but COVID complicated their condition. Another example, you can live a long, healthy life with diabetes however, contracting COVID can complicate that condition and possibly kill you. I know everyone thinks they are super healthy and invincible but anyone can have an underlying condition they are unaware of and that can complicate COVID, that's what makes it potentially more deadly.
ETA - Most people aren't dying ONLY of COVID. Most people have health issues that put them at a greater risk for mortality.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Diane
Posted by Mrs213
I don't think it matters. I am still going to wear a mask as it is my understanding that the vaccine may not be 100% effective
Agree, NO vaccine is 100% effective.
But does that mean masks will never go away? The flu shot is not 100% and you can get sick from someone else if they have it. No one is walking around with a mask on for that.
Probably because the flu isn't as deadly. The flu never killed almost 600,000 Americans in one year.
But the flu kills, just like every other virus kills. Covid numbers are added into other issues so only 6% die ONLY of covid. People who have cancer are many times put down as died from pneumonia. Is that number wrong too as they should be only cancer?
A year later and you're still stupidly comparing COVID to the flu??????? The flu doesn't kill over 600K people a season.
Also, please realize the significant number of people that have pre-existing conditions, many of which are undiagnosed, and which greatly increase the risk factor of COVID. Using your example, if someone had cancer, contracts COVID and subsequently dies they did NOT die from cancer, they died from complications of COVID. Maybe they would have lived another year even with their cancer but COVID complicated their condition. Another example, you can live a long, healthy life with diabetes however, contracting COVID can complicate that condition and possibly kill you. I know everyone thinks they are super healthy and invincible but anyone can have an underlying condition they are unaware of and that can complicate COVID, that's what makes it potentially more deadly.
ETA - Most people aren't dying ONLY of COVID. Most people have health issues that put them at a greater risk for mortality.
Obviously anything I say will be disregarded as sticking up for VB or whatever but here I go anyway....
I think comparing Covid to the flu is the most logical thing to do. For all of the viruses that we know of, covid and the flu do have a lot of similarities. Covid has clearly been more deadly than the flu (although way less deadly for young people) and it definitely seems to be much more contagious than the flu. However, I would think that part of the reason for both of those things is that this is something that is completely new and we have never been exposed to before. The flu is something that we have no cure for although now we have vaccines and treatments. We now have both for Covid as well. Just like the Flu, I don't think that we will be able to get rid of Covid completely since we are already seeing variants. Also, just like the flu, covid is worse for people with comorbidities but in general is fairly low risk without comorbidities. I am not sure why comparing Covid and the Flu is "stupid." Just like the flu, covid is most likely something that we will have to learn to live with and accept that it will be a risk that we are taking.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Diane
Posted by Mrs213
I don't think it matters. I am still going to wear a mask as it is my understanding that the vaccine may not be 100% effective
Agree, NO vaccine is 100% effective.
But does that mean masks will never go away? The flu shot is not 100% and you can get sick from someone else if they have it. No one is walking around with a mask on for that.
Probably because the flu isn't as deadly. The flu never killed almost 600,000 Americans in one year.
But the flu kills, just like every other virus kills. Covid numbers are added into other issues so only 6% die ONLY of covid. People who have cancer are many times put down as died from pneumonia. Is that number wrong too as they should be only cancer?
A year later and you're still stupidly comparing COVID to the flu??????? The flu doesn't kill over 600K people a season.
Also, please realize the significant number of people that have pre-existing conditions, many of which are undiagnosed, and which greatly increase the risk factor of COVID. Using your example, if someone had cancer, contracts COVID and subsequently dies they did NOT die from cancer, they died from complications of COVID. Maybe they would have lived another year even with their cancer but COVID complicated their condition. Another example, you can live a long, healthy life with diabetes however, contracting COVID can complicate that condition and possibly kill you. I know everyone thinks they are super healthy and invincible but anyone can have an underlying condition they are unaware of and that can complicate COVID, that's what makes it potentially more deadly.
ETA - Most people aren't dying ONLY of COVID. Most people have health issues that put them at a greater risk for mortality.
Obviously anything I say will be disregarded as sticking up for VB or whatever but here I go anyway....
I think comparing Covid to the flu is the most logical thing to do. For all of the viruses that we know of, covid and the flu do have a lot of similarities. Covid has clearly been more deadly than the flu (although way less deadly for young people) and it definitely seems to be much more contagious than the flu. However, I would think that part of the reason for both of those things is that this is something that is completely new and we have never been exposed to before. The flu is something that we have no cure for although now we have vaccines and treatments. We now have both for Covid as well. Just like the Flu, I don't think that we will be able to get rid of Covid completely since we are already seeing variants. Also, just like the flu, covid is worse for people with comorbidities but in general is fairly low risk without comorbidities. I am not sure why comparing Covid and the Flu is "stupid." Just like the flu, covid is most likely something that we will have to learn to live with and accept that it will be a risk that we are taking.
Agreed
I always compare it to the flu. Yes it’s showing to be way more deadly but so was the flu until they had vaccines and therapeutics. Covid will be the “new flu” that started in 2020. Let’s hope it’s the last in our lifetimes
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Diane
Posted by Mrs213
I don't think it matters. I am still going to wear a mask as it is my understanding that the vaccine may not be 100% effective
Agree, NO vaccine is 100% effective.
But does that mean masks will never go away? The flu shot is not 100% and you can get sick from someone else if they have it. No one is walking around with a mask on for that.
Probably because the flu isn't as deadly. The flu never killed almost 600,000 Americans in one year.
But the flu kills, just like every other virus kills. Covid numbers are added into other issues so only 6% die ONLY of covid. People who have cancer are many times put down as died from pneumonia. Is that number wrong too as they should be only cancer?
A year later and you're still stupidly comparing COVID to the flu??????? The flu doesn't kill over 600K people a season.
Also, please realize the significant number of people that have pre-existing conditions, many of which are undiagnosed, and which greatly increase the risk factor of COVID. Using your example, if someone had cancer, contracts COVID and subsequently dies they did NOT die from cancer, they died from complications of COVID. Maybe they would have lived another year even with their cancer but COVID complicated their condition. Another example, you can live a long, healthy life with diabetes however, contracting COVID can complicate that condition and possibly kill you. I know everyone thinks they are super healthy and invincible but anyone can have an underlying condition they are unaware of and that can complicate COVID, that's what makes it potentially more deadly.
ETA - Most people aren't dying ONLY of COVID. Most people have health issues that put them at a greater risk for mortality.
Obviously anything I say will be disregarded as sticking up for VB or whatever but here I go anyway....
I think comparing Covid to the flu is the most logical thing to do. For all of the viruses that we know of, covid and the flu do have a lot of similarities. Covid has clearly been more deadly than the flu (although way less deadly for young people) and it definitely seems to be much more contagious than the flu. However, I would think that part of the reason for both of those things is that this is something that is completely new and we have never been exposed to before. The flu is something that we have no cure for although now we have vaccines and treatments. We now have both for Covid as well. Just like the Flu, I don't think that we will be able to get rid of Covid completely since we are already seeing variants. Also, just like the flu, covid is worse for people with comorbidities but in general is fairly low risk without comorbidities. I am not sure why comparing Covid and the Flu is "stupid." Just like the flu, covid is most likely something that we will have to learn to live with and accept that it will be a risk that we are taking.
Hope you don’t get reemed out too much for agreeing even slightly with me lol.
Funny as I was just watching Unpolished last week and a healthcare professional was coming to test the mother at home and he said Covid flu as it is just like the flu. I know that was in the beginning but if you look up they called it Covid pneumonia when it first appeared. Funny how the symptoms are the same as both.
Just like with any other illness, some get it worse than others.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Diane
Posted by Mrs213
I don't think it matters. I am still going to wear a mask as it is my understanding that the vaccine may not be 100% effective
Agree, NO vaccine is 100% effective.
But does that mean masks will never go away? The flu shot is not 100% and you can get sick from someone else if they have it. No one is walking around with a mask on for that.
Probably because the flu isn't as deadly. The flu never killed almost 600,000 Americans in one year.
But the flu kills, just like every other virus kills. Covid numbers are added into other issues so only 6% die ONLY of covid. People who have cancer are many times put down as died from pneumonia. Is that number wrong too as they should be only cancer?
A year later and you're still stupidly comparing COVID to the flu??????? The flu doesn't kill over 600K people a season.
Also, please realize the significant number of people that have pre-existing conditions, many of which are undiagnosed, and which greatly increase the risk factor of COVID. Using your example, if someone had cancer, contracts COVID and subsequently dies they did NOT die from cancer, they died from complications of COVID. Maybe they would have lived another year even with their cancer but COVID complicated their condition. Another example, you can live a long, healthy life with diabetes however, contracting COVID can complicate that condition and possibly kill you. I know everyone thinks they are super healthy and invincible but anyone can have an underlying condition they are unaware of and that can complicate COVID, that's what makes it potentially more deadly.
ETA - Most people aren't dying ONLY of COVID. Most people have health issues that put them at a greater risk for mortality.
Exactly what I said and they stated only 6% die ONLY from Covid.
Most people have preexisting conditions, overweight and diabetics get it worse many times. As well as smokers as they can’t breath as well.
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| Posted 3/8/21 2:51 PM |
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Naturalmama
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Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
I am not debating whether or not it is similar to the flu. Like the flu, it is a respiratory virus. Someone asked about the reasoning for masks and my answer was because it is more deadly than the flu, as well as more contagious. That is probably why people don't wear masks for the flu. As an aside, the flu is almost nonexistent this year. So masks do help with the flu as well.
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