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soontobemommyof2
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
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My assumption is you wouldn't be gathering in someone's home in a small group with a bunch of strangers. I have friends and family members that are fully vaccinated and we will start seeing each other in small groups unmasked. They told me they got vaccinated. If one of my friends didn't want to tell me if they got the vaccine or not, I would treat them as they hadn't been and still only see them outdoors with a mask.
Wow really? Do they have to tell you who they voted for too and maybe hoe much they weigh?
Sorry but no one needs to tell you something private like that and if you are at the point you are still afraid to see people, then stay home.
Yes, really. I am not afraid to see people. I would still see them, outdoors with a mask.
EVERY person I am friends with has spoken about vaccines. I know exactly who is fully vaccinated. I never asked anyone to tell me, they told me on their own. But everyone I am close with is getting the vaccine. I don't know any of those "1 in 4".
This weekend, my best friend and I will be seeing each other in person for the first time since February 2020. She had her daughter in July and I will finally be able to meet her and hold her.
You know, you spend an awful lot of time telling people who are scared to say home. But if someone tells you if you don't take the vaccine stay home, you flip a shit.
Vaccines are not covered under HIPPA. They aren't asking you if you have diabetes or if you ever had cancer. If you read the law, it says medical information can be disclosed without the individual's permission if it pertains to public health.
Vaccines are considered medical procedures so they’d fall under medical information.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
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This thread made me recall that I was reading something that said that employers may mandate vaccines for employees who are returning to work. It sounds like there are ways around it… Like if you decline, then you’d have to work from home. But essentially, employers can require it.
It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out in the various industries.
Well 1 out of 4 workers will probably be requesting to work from home.
Where are you getting your stats? You love to mention OVER and OVER again that 1 out of 4 people won't get the vaccine but every time I look into that stat it specifically refers to Republicans. 1in 4 REPUBLICANS won't take the vaccine, not general population. If that figure is true it would come as no surprise seeing as how Republicans were also the ones who denied the virus and never had an interest in taking safety measures the last year. I think you need to stop quoting this figure as it is not accurate, at least from what I am seeing.
1 in 4 Repulicans Won't Take Vaccine
I saw it originally on News12 but these other news sources have the same story, which can be googled:
Monmouth.edu
NY Post
Forbes
Wnstv
Oregon Live
USA News
Post links.
I don't have a link but actually right before the vaccine rollout began they polled NYFD and only half said they would be willing to take the vaccine. This was on the Today show. My source for all factual information.
Actually here's the link
She can easily google it. She thinks I am making it up.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by lululu
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by BFNY516
This thread made me recall that I was reading something that said that employers may mandate vaccines for employees who are returning to work. It sounds like there are ways around it… Like if you decline, then you’d have to work from home. But essentially, employers can require it.
It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out in the various industries.
Well 1 out of 4 workers will probably be requesting to work from home.
Where are you getting your stats? You love to mention OVER and OVER again that 1 out of 4 people won't get the vaccine but every time I look into that stat it specifically refers to Republicans. 1in 4 REPUBLICANS won't take the vaccine, not general population. If that figure is true it would come as no surprise seeing as how Republicans were also the ones who denied the virus and never had an interest in taking safety measures the last year. I think you need to stop quoting this figure as it is not accurate, at least from what I am seeing.
1 in 4 Repulicans Won't Take Vaccine
I saw it originally on News12 but these other news sources have the same story, which can be googled:
Monmouth.edu
NY Post
Forbes
Wnstv
Oregon Live
USA News
Post links.
I don't have a link but actually right before the vaccine rollout began they polled NYFD and only half said they would be willing to take the vaccine. This was on the Today show. My source for all factual information.
Actually here's the link
The same goes for the police dept, and believe it or not there are a good amount of teachers that also don’t feel comfortable taking a vaccine in order for them to be able to return to schools. I believe there’s a group that’s advocating for this in the city.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by soontobemommyof2
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My assumption is you wouldn't be gathering in someone's home in a small group with a bunch of strangers. I have friends and family members that are fully vaccinated and we will start seeing each other in small groups unmasked. They told me they got vaccinated. If one of my friends didn't want to tell me if they got the vaccine or not, I would treat them as they hadn't been and still only see them outdoors with a mask.
Wow really? Do they have to tell you who they voted for too and maybe hoe much they weigh?
Sorry but no one needs to tell you something private like that and if you are at the point you are still afraid to see people, then stay home.
Yes, really. I am not afraid to see people. I would still see them, outdoors with a mask.
EVERY person I am friends with has spoken about vaccines. I know exactly who is fully vaccinated. I never asked anyone to tell me, they told me on their own. But everyone I am close with is getting the vaccine. I don't know any of those "1 in 4".
This weekend, my best friend and I will be seeing each other in person for the first time since February 2020. She had her daughter in July and I will finally be able to meet her and hold her.
You know, you spend an awful lot of time telling people who are scared to say home. But if someone tells you if you don't take the vaccine stay home, you flip a shit.
Vaccines are not covered under HIPPA. They aren't asking you if you have diabetes or if you ever had cancer. If you read the law, it says medical information can be disclosed without the individual's permission if it pertains to public health.
Vaccines are considered medical procedures so they’d fall under medical information.
They still don't fall under HIPPA when it's a matter of public health.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Let's be honest, the majority will be vaccinated. That's just fact. Even if VB stat is true, that would mean 75% WILL get the vaccine, that's a high majority. Those who won't are the outliers. To each his own but for myself, 95% efficacy sounds great to me.
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Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Even Trump and Melania got vaccines.
He also told everyone in a speech at CPAC to get their vaccines.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Naturalmama
My assumption is you wouldn't be gathering in someone's home in a small group with a bunch of strangers. I have friends and family members that are fully vaccinated and we will start seeing each other in small groups unmasked. They told me they got vaccinated. If one of my friends didn't want to tell me if they got the vaccine or not, I would treat them as they hadn't been and still only see them outdoors with a mask.
Wow really? Do they have to tell you who they voted for too and maybe hoe much they weigh?
Sorry but no one needs to tell you something private like that and if you are at the point you are still afraid to see people, then stay home.
Yes, really. I am not afraid to see people. I would still see them, outdoors with a mask.
EVERY person I am friends with has spoken about vaccines. I know exactly who is fully vaccinated. I never asked anyone to tell me, they told me on their own. But everyone I am close with is getting the vaccine. I don't know any of those "1 in 4".
This weekend, my best friend and I will be seeing each other in person for the first time since February 2020. She had her daughter in July and I will finally be able to meet her and hold her.
You know, you spend an awful lot of time telling people who are scared to say home. But if someone tells you if you don't take the vaccine stay home, you flip a shit.
Vaccines are not covered under HIPPA. They aren't asking you if you have diabetes or if you ever had cancer. If you read the law, it says medical information can be disclosed without the individual's permission if it pertains to public health.
Vaccines are considered medical procedures so they’d fall under medical information.
They still don't fall under HIPPA when it's a matter of public health.
First, it is HIPAA. Second, this information, as per the CDC can only be can only be shared with public health official for public health purposes. I don't think the ticket collector at CitiField will fall under public health official, but that's just a guess.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
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HIPAA laws don't apply to stores and other non-medical venues.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/hipaa-wont-stop-stores-asking-about-your-health-11592152890
A June 3 letter suggests that conditioning access to shops or malls on presenting negative Covid-19 results is somehow a violation of the privacy provisions of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996, commonly known as HIPAA. This is legally incorrect. HIPAA only applies to “covered entities,” which consist of certain health-care providers, health plans (e.g., health insurers, Medicare) and health-care clearinghouses. HIPAA also applies to a covered entity’s business associates, e.g., those providing certain services to the covered entity. It does not apply to individuals, who are always free to reveal to anyone their health information, nor does it prevent a store owner, nursing home, theme park or restaurateur from requesting Covid-19 information as a condition of admission. Other laws, however, may come into play here, but not HIPAA.
Robert Charrow
General Counsel
U.S. Department of Health and Human Services
That's from the head lawyer from HHS.
HIPAA protects you a lot less than some people think.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
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Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
I would have a major problem with that, even if I did get vaccinated.
We are allowing others to control everything about our lives and now our bodies.
What happened to my body, my choice? Is that only for some things?
It's a global pandemic, sometimes strict public health measures need to be taken. If you're vaccinated, this really shouldn't bother anyone.
Again that is why we have Hippa laws to protect us. You are basically throwing that all out the window.
No, you wouldn't be throwing anything out of the window. Your full medical history would not be available to all, just proof of the vaccine which everyone who has received it now has. Like I said, if it kept the majority safer and helped push the pandemic to its end then I am all in.
You know how you keep telling everyone to stay home so you can live your best life? Well maybe if you don't want to be vaccinated you should just "stay home" or at the very least avoid large public gatherings for the safety of others. Unvaccinated individuals will pose a greater threat to everyone.
And if anyone feels fine disclosing medical history like vaccinations to whoever they want, then good for u, I’m happy for u but there are people who just do not feel comfortable doing that and it should also be fine for them too, and it should not cause them to not being allowed to do things. I was afraid this was gonna happen and that this whole thing was gonna further cause a bigger division among the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, with the unvaccinated always being blamed for everything when in reality this issue is not as black and white as it’s being made to be.
Nobody is "blaming" unvaccinated people but it's a little silly to pretend like those who won't be vaccinated against this virus don't pose a greater risk to others.
All I am saying is, given the worldwide spread of COVID and the way it crippled us globally, it would not shock me if for large gatherings such as a concert, proof of vaccination wasn't required. We shall see.
If you are vaccinated you need not worry about others who are not since you say it is 95% effective.
I really feel like you need to better educate yourself on vaccines. I don't get the sense that you really know what you're talking about.
You talk in circles. You give me stats, I use the stats and then tell me I need to educate myself. Either you believe you are 95% safe or you don’t.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
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Posted by soontobemommyof2
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Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
I would have a major problem with that, even if I did get vaccinated.
We are allowing others to control everything about our lives and now our bodies.
What happened to my body, my choice? Is that only for some things?
It's a global pandemic, sometimes strict public health measures need to be taken. If you're vaccinated, this really shouldn't bother anyone.
Again that is why we have Hippa laws to protect us. You are basically throwing that all out the window.
No, you wouldn't be throwing anything out of the window. Your full medical history would not be available to all, just proof of the vaccine which everyone who has received it now has. Like I said, if it kept the majority safer and helped push the pandemic to its end then I am all in.
You know how you keep telling everyone to stay home so you can live your best life? Well maybe if you don't want to be vaccinated you should just "stay home" or at the very least avoid large public gatherings for the safety of others. Unvaccinated individuals will pose a greater threat to everyone.
And if anyone feels fine disclosing medical history like vaccinations to whoever they want, then good for u, I’m happy for u but there are people who just do not feel comfortable doing that and it should also be fine for them too, and it should not cause them to not being allowed to do things. I was afraid this was gonna happen and that this whole thing was gonna further cause a bigger division among the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, with the unvaccinated always being blamed for everything when in reality this issue is not as black and white as it’s being made to be.
Nobody is "blaming" unvaccinated people but it's a little silly to pretend like those who won't be vaccinated against this virus don't pose a greater risk to others.
All I am saying is, given the worldwide spread of COVID and the way it crippled us globally, it would not shock me if for large gatherings such as a concert, proof of vaccination wasn't required. We shall see.
If you are vaccinated you need not worry about others who are not since you say it is 95% effective.
I really feel like you need to better educate yourself on vaccines. I don't get the sense that you really know what you're talking about.
You talk in circles. You give me stats, I use the stats and then tell me I need to educate myself. Either you believe you are 95% safe or you don’t.
LOL I don't actually. At all. You just don't listen to ANYONE because you're a know-it-all who is constantly running off at the mouth on here.
Have a good afternoon, I've reached my VB tolerance level for today.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
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Let's be honest, the majority will be vaccinated. That's just fact. Even if VB stat is true, that would mean 75% WILL get the vaccine, that's a high majority. Those who won't are the outliers. To each his own but for myself, 95% efficacy sounds great to me.
Well considering children make up roughly 24% of the US population and they are not yet authorized to take the vaccine, I think it's unlikely that we will get to 75%. But if you mean 75% of the adult population, I think that's a stretch. I know so many people unwilling to take it who I would never have guessed would be unwilling. I am guessing we fall out at about 60% if we are lucky.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by NervousNell
I am still not even close to being eligible for a vaccine nor is my husband. I am amazed that whole extended families are already almost fully vaccinated. Is everyone essential workers/teachers etc? Or does everyone in the world have comorbidities? I feel like nobody I know is vaccinated other than my parents because they are over 75.
My husband's side is all vaccinated. He has a small family, and the only local relatives are over 65 & he works in healthcare. They don't seem to get the fact that I am not eligible.
I have seen them without masks before anyone was vaccinated but now that they are out & about more, I am hesitant about see them for Easter.
I have seen a few younger non teachers post that they got vaccinated, I assume they have conditions on the list. A lot of the conditions are fairly common, asthma, high blood pressure, obesity, and pregnancy.
Also, a lot of my friends are in NYC, and there are more spots there now.
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Let's be honest, the majority will be vaccinated. That's just fact. Even if VB stat is true, that would mean 75% WILL get the vaccine, that's a high majority. Those who won't are the outliers. To each his own but for myself, 95% efficacy sounds great to me.
Well considering children make up roughly 24% of the US population and they are not yet authorized to take the vaccine, I think it's unlikely that we will get to 75%. But if you mean 75% of the adult population, I think that's a stretch. I know so many people unwilling to take it who I would never have guessed would be unwilling. I am guessing we fall out at about 60% if we are lucky.
Exactly as like others have stated, many can’t even take it for other medical reasons.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
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Let's be honest, the majority will be vaccinated. That's just fact. Even if VB stat is true, that would mean 75% WILL get the vaccine, that's a high majority. Those who won't are the outliers. To each his own but for myself, 95% efficacy sounds great to me.
Well considering children make up roughly 24% of the US population and they are not yet authorized to take the vaccine, I think it's unlikely that we will get to 75%. But if you mean 75% of the adult population, I think that's a stretch. I know so many people unwilling to take it who I would never have guessed would be unwilling. I am guessing we fall out at about 60% if we are lucky.
Oh but VB said so, OVER and OVER again. In her world, 1 in 4 adults will refuse the vaccine which would mean 75% will take it. My comment is based on your buddy's stats and information.
I do think given the circumstances and how life altering this was, the percentage of those who get the vaccine will be considerably higher than probably any other vaccines that we've had for years. People are scared, mentally exhausted, lonely, and they miss their lives. The vaccine really is our only solution for normalcy.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
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Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
I would have a major problem with that, even if I did get vaccinated.
We are allowing others to control everything about our lives and now our bodies.
What happened to my body, my choice? Is that only for some things?
It's a global pandemic, sometimes strict public health measures need to be taken. If you're vaccinated, this really shouldn't bother anyone.
Again that is why we have Hippa laws to protect us. You are basically throwing that all out the window.
No, you wouldn't be throwing anything out of the window. Your full medical history would not be available to all, just proof of the vaccine which everyone who has received it now has. Like I said, if it kept the majority safer and helped push the pandemic to its end then I am all in.
You know how you keep telling everyone to stay home so you can live your best life? Well maybe if you don't want to be vaccinated you should just "stay home" or at the very least avoid large public gatherings for the safety of others. Unvaccinated individuals will pose a greater threat to everyone.
And if anyone feels fine disclosing medical history like vaccinations to whoever they want, then good for u, I’m happy for u but there are people who just do not feel comfortable doing that and it should also be fine for them too, and it should not cause them to not being allowed to do things. I was afraid this was gonna happen and that this whole thing was gonna further cause a bigger division among the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, with the unvaccinated always being blamed for everything when in reality this issue is not as black and white as it’s being made to be.
Nobody is "blaming" unvaccinated people but it's a little silly to pretend like those who won't be vaccinated against this virus don't pose a greater risk to others.
All I am saying is, given the worldwide spread of COVID and the way it crippled us globally, it would not shock me if for large gatherings such as a concert, proof of vaccination wasn't required. We shall see.
If you are vaccinated you need not worry about others who are not since you say it is 95% effective.
I really feel like you need to better educate yourself on vaccines. I don't get the sense that you really know what you're talking about.
You talk in circles. You give me stats, I use the stats and then tell me I need to educate myself. Either you believe you are 95% safe or you don’t.
LOL I don't actually. At all. You just don't listen to ANYONE because you're a know-it-all who is constantly running off at the mouth on here.
Have a good afternoon, I've reached my VB tolerance level for today.
Why am I a know it all? Because I googled the 1 and 4 and you see that is trrue? That I have said exactly what you have but when I say it, it is wrong?
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by lululu
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
But what about people who can't receive the vaccine for health reasons? I have a friend who suffers from guillain barre syndrome and is not able to take vaccines without serious risk of relapse. Do we make exceptions for people like her or is she just SOL, she can no longer travel, attend concerts, etc?
My friend with GBS was one of the first people I know who was vaccinated. His dr told him Pfizer only and he was watched a little closer to side effects. He was fine and is fully vaccinated now. Having GBS puts you in greater risk if you get Covid. Worse than side effects from the vaccine. I would encourage your friend to be sure about the consequence of not getting vaccinated
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Let's be honest, the majority will be vaccinated. That's just fact. Even if VB stat is true, that would mean 75% WILL get the vaccine, that's a high majority. Those who won't are the outliers. To each his own but for myself, 95% efficacy sounds great to me.
Well considering children make up roughly 24% of the US population and they are not yet authorized to take the vaccine, I think it's unlikely that we will get to 75%. But if you mean 75% of the adult population, I think that's a stretch. I know so many people unwilling to take it who I would never have guessed would be unwilling. I am guessing we fall out at about 60% if we are lucky.
Oh but VB said so, OVER and OVER again. In her world, 1 in 4 adults will refuse the vaccine which would mean 75% will take it. My comment is based on your buddy's stats and information.
I do think given the circumstances and how life altering this was, the percentage of those who get the vaccine will be considerably higher than probably any other vaccines that we've had for years. People are scared, mentally exhausted, lonely, and they miss their lives. The vaccine really is our only solution for normalcy.
Why am I getting attacked when you simply asked where I got that stat from and I showed you multiple sources?
Not all are scared, stop assuming that. Unless you have a stat or link on that too.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by lululu
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
But what about people who can't receive the vaccine for health reasons? I have a friend who suffers from guillain barre syndrome and is not able to take vaccines without serious risk of relapse. Do we make exceptions for people like her or is she just SOL, she can no longer travel, attend concerts, etc?
My friend with GBS was one of the first people I know who was vaccinated. His dr told him Pfizer only and he was watched a little closer to side effects. He was fine and is fully vaccinated now. Having GBS puts you in greater risk if you get Covid. Worse than side effects from the vaccine. I would encourage your friend to be sure about the consequence of not getting vaccinated
I second this.
I have thyroid issues but my endo still recommended I get the vaccine. I think many drs fear the risks of COVID when you have underlying issues is worse than the vaccine risks. That's been my experience thus far with all of my doctors. I would definitely encourage anyone with underlying issues to speak with their doctor to be on the safe side.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Can anyone claiming that HIPAA can interfere with the ability of the government or private entities to collect information necessary for public health please explain their understanding of the law and how it works?
Or at least how their understanding differs from this: https://www.cdc.gov/nhsn/hipaa/index.html
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Because there's a lot of misinformation flying around.
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
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Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Naturalmama
My assumption is you wouldn't be gathering in someone's home in a small group with a bunch of strangers. I have friends and family members that are fully vaccinated and we will start seeing each other in small groups unmasked. They told me they got vaccinated. If one of my friends didn't want to tell me if they got the vaccine or not, I would treat them as they hadn't been and still only see them outdoors with a mask.
Wow really? Do they have to tell you who they voted for too and maybe hoe much they weigh?
Sorry but no one needs to tell you something private like that and if you are at the point you are still afraid to see people, then stay home.
Yes, really. I am not afraid to see people. I would still see them, outdoors with a mask.
EVERY person I am friends with has spoken about vaccines. I know exactly who is fully vaccinated. I never asked anyone to tell me, they told me on their own. But everyone I am close with is getting the vaccine. I don't know any of those "1 in 4".
This weekend, my best friend and I will be seeing each other in person for the first time since February 2020. She had her daughter in July and I will finally be able to meet her and hold her.
You know, you spend an awful lot of time telling people who are scared to say home. But if someone tells you if you don't take the vaccine stay home, you flip a shit.
Vaccines are not covered under HIPPA. They aren't asking you if you have diabetes or if you ever had cancer. If you read the law, it says medical information can be disclosed without the individual's permission if it pertains to public health.
Vaccines are considered medical procedures so they’d fall under medical information.
They still don't fall under HIPPA when it's a matter of public health.
First, it is HIPAA. Second, this information, as per the CDC can only be can only be shared with public health official for public health purposes. I don't think the ticket collector at CitiField will fall under public health official, but that's just a guess.
I was typing quick, sorry. 
There have been several articles pertaining to this subject. This is a major discussion all over the world, not just the US. Biden, Fauci, and leaders from around the world have said there will be pieces of public life that only vaccinated people can participate in.
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| Posted 3/7/21 8:42 PM |
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soontobemommyof2
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by tourist
Posted by NervousNell
I am still not even close to being eligible for a vaccine nor is my husband. I am amazed that whole extended families are already almost fully vaccinated. Is everyone essential workers/teachers etc? Or does everyone in the world have comorbidities? I feel like nobody I know is vaccinated other than my parents because they are over 75.
My husband's side is all vaccinated. He has a small family, and the only local relatives are over 65 & he works in healthcare. They don't seem to get the fact that I am not eligible.
I have seen them without masks before anyone was vaccinated but now that they are out & about more, I am hesitant about see them for Easter.
I have seen a few younger non teachers post that they got vaccinated, I assume they have conditions on the list. A lot of the conditions are fairly common, asthma, high blood pressure, obesity, and pregnancy.
Also, a lot of my friends are in NYC, and there are more spots there now.
Is pregnancy one of the conditions that would allow soemone to get the vaccine??  . Wow, I’m asking cause these pharmaceutical companies do not have sufficient data that would allow them to determine the safety of the vaccine for this subpopulation. That’s why they have not recommended it for pregnant women.
Message edited 3/7/2021 8:46:24 PM.
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| Posted 3/7/21 8:44 PM |
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seaside
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by lululu
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by Naturalmama
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by Naturalmama
My assumption is you wouldn't be gathering in someone's home in a small group with a bunch of strangers. I have friends and family members that are fully vaccinated and we will start seeing each other in small groups unmasked. They told me they got vaccinated. If one of my friends didn't want to tell me if they got the vaccine or not, I would treat them as they hadn't been and still only see them outdoors with a mask.
Wow really? Do they have to tell you who they voted for too and maybe hoe much they weigh?
Sorry but no one needs to tell you something private like that and if you are at the point you are still afraid to see people, then stay home.
Yes, really. I am not afraid to see people. I would still see them, outdoors with a mask.
EVERY person I am friends with has spoken about vaccines. I know exactly who is fully vaccinated. I never asked anyone to tell me, they told me on their own. But everyone I am close with is getting the vaccine. I don't know any of those "1 in 4".
This weekend, my best friend and I will be seeing each other in person for the first time since February 2020. She had her daughter in July and I will finally be able to meet her and hold her.
You know, you spend an awful lot of time telling people who are scared to say home. But if someone tells you if you don't take the vaccine stay home, you flip a shit.
Vaccines are not covered under HIPPA. They aren't asking you if you have diabetes or if you ever had cancer. If you read the law, it says medical information can be disclosed without the individual's permission if it pertains to public health.
Vaccines are considered medical procedures so they’d fall under medical information.
They still don't fall under HIPPA when it's a matter of public health.
First, it is HIPAA. Second, this information, as per the CDC can only be can only be shared with public health official for public health purposes. I don't think the ticket collector at CitiField will fall under public health official, but that's just a guess.
I was typing quick, sorry.
There have been several articles pertaining to this subject. This is a major discussion all over the world, not just the US. Biden, Fauci, and leaders from around the world have said there will be pieces of public life that only vaccinated people can participate in.
This is my understanding too. And while the scope of exemptions, if any, isn't hammered out yet, no one here has explained exactly how any existing law would be able to stop that from happening.
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| Posted 3/7/21 8:46 PM |
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by tourist
Posted by NervousNell
I am still not even close to being eligible for a vaccine nor is my husband. I am amazed that whole extended families are already almost fully vaccinated. Is everyone essential workers/teachers etc? Or does everyone in the world have comorbidities? I feel like nobody I know is vaccinated other than my parents because they are over 75.
My husband's side is all vaccinated. He has a small family, and the only local relatives are over 65 & he works in healthcare. They don't seem to get the fact that I am not eligible.
I have seen them without masks before anyone was vaccinated but now that they are out & about more, I am hesitant about see them for Easter.
I have seen a few younger non teachers post that they got vaccinated, I assume they have conditions on the list. A lot of the conditions are fairly common, asthma, high blood pressure, obesity, and pregnancy.
Also, a lot of my friends are in NYC, and there are more spots there now.
Is pregnancy one of the conditions that would allow soemone to get the vaccine?? . Wow, I’m asking cause these pharmaceutical companies do not have data that would allow them to determine the safety of the vaccine for this subpopulation.
The CDC does not recommend it.
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| Posted 3/7/21 8:46 PM |
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lululu
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Hofstra26
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by lululu
Posted by beachbabe
Posted by Hofstra26
Quite honestly, and this is just my opinion, I really wouldn't have a problem with being required to show vaccination papers for certain things until we know for sure the pandemic is behind us. If you don't like it, get vaccinated or forgo large public gatherings like concerts where your unvaccinated self would present a possible risk to others.
I agree with this
But what about people who can't receive the vaccine for health reasons? I have a friend who suffers from guillain barre syndrome and is not able to take vaccines without serious risk of relapse. Do we make exceptions for people like her or is she just SOL, she can no longer travel, attend concerts, etc?
My friend with GBS was one of the first people I know who was vaccinated. His dr told him Pfizer only and he was watched a little closer to side effects. He was fine and is fully vaccinated now. Having GBS puts you in greater risk if you get Covid. Worse than side effects from the vaccine. I would encourage your friend to be sure about the consequence of not getting vaccinated
I second this.
I have thyroid issues but my endo still recommended I get the vaccine. I think many drs fear the risks of COVID when you have underlying issues is worse than the vaccine risks. That's been my experience thus far with all of my doctors. I would definitely encourage anyone with underlying issues to speak with their doctor to be on the safe side.
My friend who has GBS is married to a very successful surgeon and her brother is also an MD as well. She has been advised by multiple doctors not to get any vaccines. They also advise her not to get the flu shot. I am fairly certain she is getting better advice from her husband, her brother as well as the doctors who have been treating her GBS for years. Thyroid issues are very different than GBS.
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| Posted 3/7/21 8:51 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Fully vaccinated people can gather without masks, CDC says
Posted by Valentinesbaby73
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by tourist
Posted by NervousNell
I am still not even close to being eligible for a vaccine nor is my husband. I am amazed that whole extended families are already almost fully vaccinated. Is everyone essential workers/teachers etc? Or does everyone in the world have comorbidities? I feel like nobody I know is vaccinated other than my parents because they are over 75.
My husband's side is all vaccinated. He has a small family, and the only local relatives are over 65 & he works in healthcare. They don't seem to get the fact that I am not eligible.
I have seen them without masks before anyone was vaccinated but now that they are out & about more, I am hesitant about see them for Easter.
I have seen a few younger non teachers post that they got vaccinated, I assume they have conditions on the list. A lot of the conditions are fairly common, asthma, high blood pressure, obesity, and pregnancy.
Also, a lot of my friends are in NYC, and there are more spots there now.
Is pregnancy one of the conditions that would allow soemone to get the vaccine?? . Wow, I’m asking cause these pharmaceutical companies do not have data that would allow them to determine the safety of the vaccine for this subpopulation.
The CDC does not recommend it.
Not true.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/recommendations/pregnancy.html
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People who are pregnant and part of a group recommended to receive the COVID-19 vaccine may choose to be vaccinated. If they have questions about getting vaccinated, a discussion with a healthcare provider might help them make an informed decision.
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They don't have enough data to recommend it, but they are definitely not "not recommending" it.
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