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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
I saw this the other day on the news. Great info!
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
the artical doesnt offend me one bit. i was dead set agaisnt BF for my own personal reasons. i applaud any woman who decides to BF, just as much as i would a woman who decides to FF. with that say to answer the question asked, i think it touches a nerve (not the artical the topic of bf vs. ff) for me personally because i dont like being made to feel that im harming my baby, some have made me feel like im selfish and have reacted as if i have tossed abby infront of a bus. It was a choice that dh and i made for us as a family and we felt it was the best for her and just want my decision to be just as respected as if i chose to BF. not that i feel it should really be anyone elses business besides my dh or i (but thats a whole other topic that i wont touch with a 10 foot pole!)
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| Posted 4/13/10 10:24 PM |
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Dear Cailen...
Yet another reason you will hate your mommy who decided having a smaller breast size at age 20, thereby severing her milk ducts, was more important than the brain and immune system of a child she may or may not have someday 
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| Posted 4/13/10 10:35 PM |
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
Posted by beachgirl
I always wonder and maybe some of you moms who tried to BF and it did not work out for you or those of you who went straight to FF.....why do you get so upset over articles like this?
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I am not upset at the article at all...I think it makes alot of vallid points. I DO believe breast is best and I enjoy BFing my kids so for ME, any article or discussion about BF vs FF stirs up alot of emotions...I am not exaggerating when I say that I am still upset over what we went through - I was so determined to BF and when the time came, I could not do it for more than 6 weeks, emotionally OR physically
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| Posted 4/13/10 10:37 PM |
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
I'm not upset - I was joking - I knew when I had my breast reduction I would never be able to breast feed. If I could, I would.
BUT - I do want to out out there this:
My son, FF his entire life - AND on a vegetarian diet, is the healthiest, sturdiest, smartest little boy. I do not regret one thing. I really don't think he would have been any healthier, smarter, or more perfect if I BF'd him. So never feel bad about your decisions- whether they were your choice or not....
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| Posted 4/13/10 10:45 PM |
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Posted by Ophelia
Posted by munchkinfacemama
However, I think that it places a lot of fault on those who FF.
I think that is true for anything.
at the end of the day, there is a BEST of everything and then there are varying degrees of "does the job" "good enough" "is almost as good"
I think most formula feeders acknowlege this and accept it and call it a day. I don't think most fail to realize that breast milk has properties that make it superior to formula.
anyway, I gotta go. hopefully this won't require a visit from the Pontiff.
I miss the Pontiff
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| Posted 4/13/10 10:46 PM |
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
The title of the article is " Another Reason We Must Support Nursing Moms"...
As a nursing mom I can say SUPPORT is everything!!!! Support from Dr.'s, employers, friends, family even strangers...
Without support from my boss, my Dr's, my family and most of all my DH- I wouldnt be able to give my son 10+ months of nothing but my milk!!! Unfortunately not everyone is as lucky...
As a BFing mom, you are often made to feel like you should be hiden in a closet and articles like these shout the complete opposite...
These kinda articles are to inform people about how great breast milk is for our children, so that maybe- just maybe BFing moms can get the necessary support!!!
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| Posted 4/14/10 7:58 AM |
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
Posted by maybesoon
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Meh..
This like all of these studies is basically just highlighting to effect of more people doing one thing. That same breastfeeding mom might be driving a gas guzzling car and not recycling.
Some people breastfeed, some drive hybrids, some use disposable diapers, some just make sure to recycle ... we all do what we can.
I agree, meh.
kind of tired of hearing rah rah breastfeeding. 10 years ago this wasn't even spoken about.
I agree. Everyone does what works best for them. I dont like being made to feel like I did something wrong because I FF. I tried to BF both boys...didn't work. I was upset but I am not going to beat myself up over it for the next 25 years. Chances are they have as good of a shot going to a good college as a BF baby, although I'm sure some would beg to differ 
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
Posted by Disneygirl
Hence why the breastfeeding rate in the US was so low then and only slowly increases now.
Honestly, I dont think the BF rate is increasing solely due to the health benefits. I think a lot of it has to do with the cost of formula and the money they save BF. I hear more people talk about how "cheap" it is to BF than I hear them talk about the benefits.
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
Posted by beachgirl
As a mom of an 8 month old who has been EBF since birth and who still wakes 3 times a night to feed, I am tired and reading this made me smile so please dont get upset if you could not / did not BF but take this as a shout out to moms who do BF and who may have had to drag pumps to work in order to BF, have had bouts of mastitis, thrush, blocked ducts etc etc...just once can we just say Yeah to the moms who BF, well done and not see it as a BF V FM debate. The end.
I agree....
Why are these kinds of articles taken as a "judgement" to FF moms, instead of the it is BFing moms...
Dont feel like its to put guilt on FF moms- every mom wants/does the best for thier children
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| Posted 4/14/10 8:23 AM |
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
thanks for posting!
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| Posted 4/14/10 9:07 AM |
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
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Nice- except it puts even more pressure on the poor moms who would love to exclusively breastfeed but cannot, no matter WHAT they do, make enough milk to do so.
Sorry but this is a sore point for me. I would have LOVED to exclusively breastfed my babies for six months. I was happy to be able to supplement and at least give them a little bit of protection.
I have to supplement as well, not by choice. I think this article is great for some information, but it places a lot of mom guilt. Some woman simply can't EBF, and some simply choose not to. There is nothing wrong with either.
I have to say, I felt like sh** when I saw this report last week. I am one of those Moms who did not breastfeed, not because I didn't have milk, but because I needed to take medication for a medical condition when DS was young and it was not at all clear that the medication was safe and it definitely crossed over into breast milk. So after months of agonizing over this while pregnant, I finally decided that I did need the medication and I did not feel there was enough information out there to feel safe breastfeeding while taking it. Guess my issue is that I feel too few studies are done on the effect of various drugs on breastfed babies, but it is hard to study this. My sister adopted recently and also uses formula, and we agreed, we do feel kind of crappy not doing it, eventhough we have good reasons for not doing it.
On the other hand, I can say this information is probably good to share with someone who is considering breastfeeding but on the fence about it. And it's good information that shouldn't be withheld. But I do feel that there is a lot of pressure to breastfeed already, and women who cannot for various reasons often wind up feeling as if our kids are doomed.
I do realize this is my issue--I don't think I'll ever feel great about not BFing, though I still think it was the responsible decision for us.
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
I would love to see articles like this used to provide insight in to the need of better maternity/paternity mandates with in the US. Maternity/paternity leave is deplorable in this country as compared to other industrialized countries and articles like this provide insight in to the needs of revamping.
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| Posted 4/14/10 9:20 AM |
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
Posted by shamrock124
I would love to see articles like this used to provide insight in to the need of better maternity/paternity mandates with in the US. Maternity/paternity leave is deplorable in this country as compared to other industrialized countries and articles like this provide insight in to the needs of revamping.
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
I don't get offended at articles like this -- I think we all can agree that breastmilk is best -- of that there is no question.
My twins had latching issues -- I tried several methods that the LLL woman taught me and I couldn't do it. I had special twins BF pillow and everything....I used the "SSI" method as a last resort and it didn't work. I would try to nurse one, but the other was SCREAMING....Emotionally, physically, I was completely drained. I was determined to give them my milk so I pumped. I did that for 6 weeks (but I still had to supplement because I didn't make enough). I am happy I was able to give them my milk, even for a short time. But I do feel a pang of guilt here and there that I couldn't do it longer. I don't care if other mothers judge me. I did everything that I could.
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
Posted by eddiesmommy
great so the fact that I was unable to BF DS, could mean its possibly my fault that he has asthma, eczema and his allergies. That was an awesome article.....Im already aware thatif available BM is best, but I could seriously do without that added guilt that its at least partially my fault that my son has the issues he does, and Oh, that Im also then responsible for the rising cost of healthcare.
 not your fault.
I BF my DS , actually I had to Pump bc he didn't latch , tortured myself with it bc I thought it would be better for him. well guess what, at 18 months old He has terrible allergies, and has been sick so many times I can not even count. so with all the research and pressure, I feel like I did it all for nothing
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| Posted 4/14/10 9:32 AM |
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
I bf'ed/pumped for 6 weeks before I had to stop bc of multiple severe cases of mastitis.
I have to say that it is only recently that I can say that the article does not upset me.
I know it's not meant to, nor was it Ophelia's intent to say that BF moms are better than FF moms, but it is definitely an issue that really hurts for those of us who tried to or didn't try to but couldn't for various reasons.
Posted by beachgirl
I always wonder and maybe some of you moms who tried to BF and it did not work out for you or those of you who went straight to FF.....why do you get so upset over articles like this?
Is it because you believe breast milk is better and you are genuinely upset that you could not BF?
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Is it because you feel guilty because you are being told that you should have BF?
I am genuinely wondering what gets people so up in arms over the BF issue.
If a study came out tomorrow saying that FF was better than BF I would still BF as I really enjoy BF and its so much more than just feeding my child for me.
I think this is 2 fold.
The first part of it is that noone is going to argue the fact that BM is best. And as moms, we all want to do the best for our children. By not being able to provide BM, it is automatically assumed that you are not doing what is best for your child.
The second part, which is what had me in tears, and so upset for months about not being able to bf, is that somehow you failed.
All these articles make is seem that bf is soooo convenient, so easy, so natural, and that every woman did it before formula so why can't you? Like you are less of a woman because you do no bf.
And then there's the lactation consultants, and pro-bf moms and groups who constantly push the fact that "you have to be truly committed to be successful at bf, that is not easy, that it is a sacrifice, and if you REALLY want it, then you can do it. This really eats at you when you are the one that has to make the decision to stop, whether it be for your health, your sanity, or just because it is more convenient for you to BF. Somehow, you feel like you were not committed enough. you didn't make enough of an effort like ebf moms do.
That is what stings the most for me. That somehow I did something wrong. I didn't try enough. I failed my baby.
So yes, while I agree that it is important to educate people that bm is best, I think sometimes the push is so strong that it makes those of us who were not successful feel really horrible, to the point of ppd.
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
Posted by beachgirl
I always wonder and maybe some of you moms who tried to BF and it did not work out for you or those of you who went straight to FF.....why do you get so upset over articles like this?
Is it because you believe breast milk is better and you are genuinely upset that you could not BF?
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Is it because you feel guilty because you are being told that you should have BF?
I am genuinely wondering what gets people so up in arms over the BF issue.
If a study came out tomorrow saying that FF was better than BF I would still BF as I really enjoy BF and its so much more than just feeding my child for me.
because i had a lactaction consultant make me feel like sh** about it and an ER dr. berate me as well. DS was 4 days old when we brough him to the ER and on formula b/c nothing was coming in and i was barely able to get an oz from pumping. I said to the dr..."i guess he's supposed to starve then while i wait for something to come in?" Please..alot of these lactation consultants are so high up on their horse that im totally turned off to them now.
So its a sore point for me.
I was FF, my brother, husband, were all FF etc. and we're all fine. DS is thriving, healthy chunky little boy and im happy for that.
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
I think this is 2 fold.
The first part of it is that noone is going to argue the fact that BM is best. And as moms, we all want to do the best for our children. By not being able to provide BM, it is automatically assumed that you are not doing what is best for your child.
The second part, which is what had me in tears, and so upset for months about not being able to bf, is that somehow you failed.
All these articles make is seem that bf is soooo convenient, so easy, so natural, and that every woman did it before formula so why can't you? Like you are less of a woman because you do no bf.
And then there's the lactation consultants, and pro-bf moms and groups who constantly push the fact that "you have to be truly committed to be successful at bf, that is not easy, that it is a sacrifice, and if you REALLY want it, then you can do it. This really eats at you when you are the one that has to make the decision to stop, whether it be for your health, your sanity, or just because it is more convenient for you to BF. Somehow, you feel like you were not committed enough. you didn't make enough of an effort like ebf moms do.
That is what stings the most for me. That somehow I did something wrong. I didn't try enough. I failed my baby.
So yes, while I agree that it is important to educate people that bm is best, I think sometimes the push is so strong that it makes those of us who were not successful feel really horrible, to the point of ppd.
Very nicely stated, Holly. You said what I was thinking, but couldn't write.
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
No one wanted to BF more than I did. I literally read every book about and mentally prepared myself til no end. Lactation consultants etc
BUT--doing it is WAY harder than I EVER expected. I didnt have much family support and my son didnt latch and the hospital told me me might need to go to NICU if he didnt pee ---
THIS WAS HARD and I WISH I could have done it
BUT---I couldnt (ok--I did for 3 weeks and then couldnt)---so articles like this make me happy I tried---but sad it didnt work
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| Posted 4/14/10 9:42 AM |
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
nice morning read...
fighting thrush this week, so trying to keep baby off bottles and pacifiers, creaming and airing out my nips, while i am swabbing her mouth...getting prepared to nurse in front of library class in a bit.
no dairy or soy, again for God knows how long. I needed to read this.
As far as health, I am a HUGE believer. #1 was bf 18 mos, never sick. Just well care visits.
5 days after he was completely weaned, bam, first asthma attack out of no where.
Whatever I was providing him was working, never a single respiratory issue till I weaned.
I wish article went more into the mother's benefits to nursing...decreasing cancer rates...that is huge.
My heart always breaks for those who wanted to nurse but were unable to. But I found this as a great article to pass onto mothers who are on the fence.
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
Posted by leighdvm
I think this is 2 fold.
The first part of it is that noone is going to argue the fact that BM is best. And as moms, we all want to do the best for our children. By not being able to provide BM, it is automatically assumed that you are not doing what is best for your child.
The second part, which is what had me in tears, and so upset for months about not being able to bf, is that somehow you failed.
All these articles make is seem that bf is soooo convenient, so easy, so natural, and that every woman did it before formula so why can't you? Like you are less of a woman because you do no bf.
And then there's the lactation consultants, and pro-bf moms and groups who constantly push the fact that "you have to be truly committed to be successful at bf, that is not easy, that it is a sacrifice, and if you REALLY want it, then you can do it. This really eats at you when you are the one that has to make the decision to stop, whether it be for your health, your sanity, or just because it is more convenient for you to BF. Somehow, you feel like you were not committed enough. you didn't make enough of an effort like ebf moms do.
That is what stings the most for me. That somehow I did something wrong. I didn't try enough. I failed my baby.
So yes, while I agree that it is important to educate people that bm is best, I think sometimes the push is so strong that it makes those of us who were not successful feel really horrible, to the point of ppd.
Very nicely stated, Holly. You said what I was thinking, but couldn't write.
I agree!
If I'm being honest...
I HATED BFing...HATED it. I HATED having DD attached to my boob 24/7. I RESENTED the fact her care was all on me, all my responsibility. Call me selfish, but that's how I felt.
We did have BFing issues though, I was not allowed to BF or give her breast milk for the first 10 days, so she was already used to the bottle.
I will honestly say, BFing was the tramatic experience ever in my life. I am not exaggerating when I say that.
As it is, DH and I have been arguing over this since I got pregnant with #2. He is adament I give BFing a try again, and I have NO desire to go through what I went through the first time around.
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
I wonder if perhaps each person's response to this article has more to do with the environment you live in, than the actual article, meaning if you are a BF mom and you don't feel like you are getting support from those around you, or your having a difficult time, then articles like these will help you to make it through the rough times. You need a little cheering to keep doing what you doing in the face of difficulty.
On the other hand, if your a mom who FF, because for some reason you couldn't BF, especially one who is surrounded by people that BF or think BF is the only way, family, moms, DH, whomever, then you probably have a ton of mommy guilt for whatever reason and like me are more acutely aware of every place it says breast is best (I mean for godness sake it even says it on the can of formula, so every time I make a bottle I feel like I'm reminded of being a failure for DD). If that is the case then articles like this touch a nerve, hence the reaction of many on here.
Just my 2 cents.
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LoriH
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
These articles that vaguely speak of a study done at some big university and do not give any detail, get me a bit annoyed. Are all the children in the survey from the same ethnic backgrounds, health profiles, neighborhoods, socioeconomic conditions and do their parents have similar educational backgrounds? How large was the sample size? Was there a significant decrease in the ailments listed to show a distinct correlation between breastfed and formula fed infants? Anyone can look at a research study and right a vague article supporting the benefits of one thing over the other.
I know there are many benefits to breastfeeding. I am not putting down the article for what it is, a pat on the back for those who EBF. I think we all occasionally need reassurance that what we are doing is right for our children, especially when it is inconvenient or time consuming.
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Re: Interesting article/study re: breastfeeding
Posted by MrsRbk
I will honestly say, BFing was the tramatic experience ever in my life. I am not exaggerating when I say that.
As it is, DH and I have been arguing over this since I got pregnant with #2. He is adament I give BFing a try again, and I have NO desire to go through what I went through the first time around.
I'm going through the same exact thing right now also.
DH is adamant that I try again.
I said I would, but that I would NOT beat myself up if it didn't work, and go straight to ff when I felt overwhelmed.
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