Congressman's "plan" for healthcare

This is only this one man's idea, and not an actual "plan", but it's just scary how people with the power to make laws can think...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-huizenga-health-care-reform_us_585b0513e4b0d9a5945716c2

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Posted by GoldenRod

This is only this one man's idea, and not an actual "plan", but it's just scary how people with the power to make laws can think...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bill-huizenga-health-care-reform_us_585b0513e4b0d9a5945716c2

WASHINGTON ? Rep. Bill Huizenga (R-Mich.) says there’s “definitely” going to be changes in health care delivery after Republicans repeal the Affordable Care Act, and people are going to need to take more responsibility for the cost of their treatment.

He gave a personal example of how do this: When his 10-year-old son recently fell on the driveway one evening and injured his arm, Huizenga waited until the next day to take him to the doctor because it cost less than bringing him to the emergency room that night.

“We weren’t sure what was going on,” the GOP lawmaker said in a Monday interview with a local news outlet, MLive.com. “So I splinted it up, and we wrapped it up, and the decision was, okay, do we go to the E.R.? We thought it was a sprain, but weren’t sure. Took every precaution and decided to go in the next morning.”

It turned out his son’s arm was broken.
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That is appalling. WTF is wrong with people. I hope that poor child wasn't in too much pain waiting to visit the hospital. Isn't it dangerous to not set bones as soon as possible?

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What he did was wrong and ridiculous, but on another note, there are WAY too many people who use the ER as their personal doctor.

Every time I have been at the ER with a real emergency, there are people there with sore throats, sinus infections, etc
I mean come on.
Go to freaking Stat Health for that stuff!

I was reading that some hospital somewhere or maybe it was an insurance company, was going to start fining people if they used the ER for things like that.
I think that's a great idea.

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Well, he's obviously a doctor in addition to his Congress gig, so....oh, wait, just NO!

I agree that people shouldn't use the ER for routine things, but maybe for some there isn't an easily accessible urgent care place or their insurance doesn't work with one that is? I'm sure that is certainly not all the time, but maybe that's why in some cases. It does make it more expensive for everyone when people do that though.

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when DS fell off the slide at daycare, I rushed him to the pediatrician, it was late in the day. he had no cuts or bleeding but he was in a lot of pain at the top of his arm.

the dr. couldnt tell if it was what they called nursemaids elbow (I think thats what it was), fractured or dislocated b/c DS was saying the pain was down towards the elbow. it wasnt broken b/c he could still move it, but I brought him to the hospital the next morning for xrays.
Dr said to wait until the morning and see how it was when he got up.

he fractured his humerous. so I can see maybe why they waited. but using that as a base to change healthcare doesnt make sense.

also, people do use the ER for ridiculous stuff.

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Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by NervousNell

What he did was wrong and ridiculous, but on another note, there are WAY too many people who use the ER as their personal doctor.

Every time I have been at the ER with a real emergency, there are people there with sore throats, sinus infections, etc
I mean come on.
Go to freaking Stat Health for that stuff!

I was reading that some hospital somewhere or maybe it was an insurance company, was going to start fining people if they used the ER for things like that.
I think that's a great idea.

I cannot even imagine, if I stepped foot in the ER with my high deductible insurance plan it would cost me an arm and leg. People actually do this?!?!?! Ridiculous!

Congressman's

My coworker did this. Too cheap to take the kid to the dr. Had a broken bone for a few days then decided it was time to go after the kid wouldn't stop complaining.

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Posted by Straightarrow

Posted by Hofstra26

Posted by NervousNell

What he did was wrong and ridiculous, but on another note, there are WAY too many people who use the ER as their personal doctor.

Every time I have been at the ER with a real emergency, there are people there with sore throats, sinus infections, etc
I mean come on.
Go to freaking Stat Health for that stuff!

I was reading that some hospital somewhere or maybe it was an insurance company, was going to start fining people if they used the ER for things like that.
I think that's a great idea.

I cannot even imagine, if I stepped foot in the ER with my high deductible insurance plan it would cost me an arm and leg. People actually do this?!?!?! Ridiculous!

It is because a hospital can't turn anyone away and I am willing to bet that they don't have insurance.

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He shoudlnt use it as an excuse to change healthcare but for a broken arm the ER won't do anything they will splinter it up and make you see a Orthopedic.

DD broke her wrist; before I was sure I was going to take her to Urgent care or the ER that night but she stop complaining and said didn't hurt as much. Next morning it swelled up went to my ped who sent me to the Ortho turned out it was broken.


Then recently DD hurt her finger she didn't cry about it and told me an hour after it happened. This was on saturday by sunday it was swollen and bruised, which is a sign that it could be broken. I didn't bother taking her to the ER or urgent care cause I knew they would just send me to the Ortho if it was.

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Um.. I sorta did the same thing.

So she was fine and all then all of a sudden she wasn't. She couldn't put weight on her foot. It was horrible. So I wrapped it up, iced it and put her to bed with pain relievers. I had no idea what was going on.

I was NOT taking her to an ER.

The next day I made seem like it was nothing to see if she was faking it. She forgot. Well she did until she put weight on it and collapse like a deck of cards. That proved to me it was legit and I took her to work with me. I had a ton of very important meetings and work but slipped out to take her to doctor.

They ended up sending us to a hospital for xrays. I felt like an arse for it. But thankfully it wasn't broken just a bad sprain and she was forced to stay off it for 6 weeks. Still. I don't regret not taking her to the ER.

I broke my arm. Thought I could fly. It hurt, a shocking pain, but not like you'd think. I broke both bones in the arm. My mother sent me to my room. It was three days before my brother threatened her with police and only then did I got to the doc because blood poisoning had started.

Coworker here just took his son for surgery yesterday to repair a broken finger. It has been broken for a week. He was stepped on by a cleat, it got swollen but they didn't realize it was anything. He's 13. But it was hurting and swollen so they finally took him to see a doc and found out it was infected. Which is dangerous and he was on an IV Drip to find the infection before they could go in and repair the nerve damage yesterday. He'll be fine.

Point is. Broken bones aren't always compound fractures with parts sticking out of the flesh. Not saying all are hairline either (mine wasn't). But a broken bone sometimes isn't obvious is all.

I wouldn't judge a parent.

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Posted by Xelindrya

Um.. I sorta did the same thing.

So she was fine and all then all of a sudden she wasn't. She couldn't put weight on her foot. It was horrible. So I wrapped it up, iced it and put her to bed with pain relievers. I had no idea what was going on.

I was NOT taking her to an ER.

The next day I made seem like it was nothing to see if she was faking it. She forgot. Well she did until she put weight on it and collapse like a deck of cards. That proved to me it was legit and I took her to work with me. I had a ton of very important meetings and work but slipped out to take her to doctor.

They ended up sending us to a hospital for xrays. I felt like an arse for it. But thankfully it wasn't broken just a bad sprain and she was forced to stay off it for 6 weeks. Still. I don't regret not taking her to the ER.

I broke my arm. Thought I could fly. It hurt, a shocking pain, but not like you'd think. I broke both bones in the arm. My mother sent me to my room. It was three days before my brother threatened her with police and only then did I got to the doc because blood poisoning had started.

Coworker here just took his son for surgery yesterday to repair a broken finger. It has been broken for a week. He was stepped on by a cleat, it got swollen but they didn't realize it was anything. He's 13. But it was hurting and swollen so they finally took him to see a doc and found out it was infected. Which is dangerous and he was on an IV Drip to find the infection before they could go in and repair the nerve damage yesterday. He'll be fine.

Point is. Broken bones aren't always compound fractures with parts sticking out of the flesh. Not saying all are hairline either (mine wasn't). But a broken bone sometimes isn't obvious is all.

I wouldn't judge a parent.

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Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by Xelindrya

Um.. I sorta did the same thing.

So she was fine and all then all of a sudden she wasn't. She couldn't put weight on her foot. It was horrible. So I wrapped it up, iced it and put her to bed with pain relievers. I had no idea what was going on.

I was NOT taking her to an ER.

The next day I made seem like it was nothing to see if she was faking it. She forgot. Well she did until she put weight on it and collapse like a deck of cards. That proved to me it was legit and I took her to work with me. I had a ton of very important meetings and work but slipped out to take her to doctor.

They ended up sending us to a hospital for xrays. I felt like an arse for it. But thankfully it wasn't broken just a bad sprain and she was forced to stay off it for 6 weeks. Still. I don't regret not taking her to the ER.

I broke my arm. Thought I could fly. It hurt, a shocking pain, but not like you'd think. I broke both bones in the arm. My mother sent me to my room. It was three days before my brother threatened her with police and only then did I got to the doc because blood poisoning had started.

Coworker here just took his son for surgery yesterday to repair a broken finger. It has been broken for a week. He was stepped on by a cleat, it got swollen but they didn't realize it was anything. He's 13. But it was hurting and swollen so they finally took him to see a doc and found out it was infected. Which is dangerous and he was on an IV Drip to find the infection before they could go in and repair the nerve damage yesterday. He'll be fine.

Point is. Broken bones aren't always compound fractures with parts sticking out of the flesh. Not saying all are hairline either (mine wasn't). But a broken bone sometimes isn't obvious is all.

I wouldn't judge a parent.

A parent making a decision is vastly different than a lawmaker, in a timeframe where universal healthcare could be in a state of change, makes a statement like this.

I would never play Monday quarterback with a parent and their kid. We've all made decision that in hind-sight, we might have made a different decision. I've made plenty of those. However, I would not suggest that other people do the same thing that I did, nor imply that I might use my position to make it a policy.

Congressman's

As usual (and expected), this politician has backpedaled and said "he made a poor choice of words."

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Posted by stinger

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by Xelindrya

Um.. I sorta did the same thing.

So she was fine and all then all of a sudden she wasn't. She couldn't put weight on her foot. It was horrible. So I wrapped it up, iced it and put her to bed with pain relievers. I had no idea what was going on.

I was NOT taking her to an ER.

The next day I made seem like it was nothing to see if she was faking it. She forgot. Well she did until she put weight on it and collapse like a deck of cards. That proved to me it was legit and I took her to work with me. I had a ton of very important meetings and work but slipped out to take her to doctor.

They ended up sending us to a hospital for xrays. I felt like an arse for it. But thankfully it wasn't broken just a bad sprain and she was forced to stay off it for 6 weeks. Still. I don't regret not taking her to the ER.

I broke my arm. Thought I could fly. It hurt, a shocking pain, but not like you'd think. I broke both bones in the arm. My mother sent me to my room. It was three days before my brother threatened her with police and only then did I got to the doc because blood poisoning had started.

Coworker here just took his son for surgery yesterday to repair a broken finger. It has been broken for a week. He was stepped on by a cleat, it got swollen but they didn't realize it was anything. He's 13. But it was hurting and swollen so they finally took him to see a doc and found out it was infected. Which is dangerous and he was on an IV Drip to find the infection before they could go in and repair the nerve damage yesterday. He'll be fine.

Point is. Broken bones aren't always compound fractures with parts sticking out of the flesh. Not saying all are hairline either (mine wasn't). But a broken bone sometimes isn't obvious is all.

I wouldn't judge a parent.

A parent making a decision is vastly different than a lawmaker, in a timeframe where universal healthcare could be in a state of change, makes a statement like this.

I would never play Monday quarterback with a parent and their kid. We've all made decision that in hind-sight, we might have made a different decision. I've made plenty of those. However, I would not suggest that other people do the same thing that I did, nor imply that I might use my position to make it a policy.

Exactly. ACA is about prevention. When you prevent (by getting screening, vaccines, using birth control, see your doctor annually, eat right, stay physically active, etc) and have health care that covers most of the above you STAY OUT of the ER. When you are past the preventable stages you cost everyone more money.

The waiting to fix a broken bone isnt the issue

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