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Should I raise the rent?

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alli3131
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Re: Should I raise the rent?

Posted by sameinitials

Posted by marianne13

There are several people who seem surprised that they cannot legally restrict the # of people occupying an apartment in their own house.

I believe that in NYS, you can only restrict 2 people per bedroom. So if you have a 1 bedroom apartment, you can't say "only for singles" and if you have a two bedroom, you can't say "couples only" or "no kids."

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/RPP/7/235-f

http://portal.hud.gov/hudportal/documents/huddoc?id=DOC_35681.pdf

This is why being a landlord stinks!



Yup this is all great info. To go a little further, I don't think you even legally say "no kids," even with a 1 BR.



All this goes out the window if the apt is in her home. She does not have to follow the anti discrimation laws.
It all has to do with the type of apt and in private homes is exempt

Posted 7/5/12 5:32 PM
 
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Re: Should I raise the rent?

Posted by alli3131

Posted by sameinitials

Posted by marianne13

There are several people who seem surprised that they cannot legally restrict the # of people occupying an apartment in their own house.

I believe that in NYS, you can only restrict 2 people per bedroom. So if you have a 1 bedroom apartment, you can't say "only for singles" and if you have a two bedroom, you can't say "couples only" or "no kids."

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/RPP/7/235-f

http://portal.hud.gov/hudportal/documents/huddoc?id=DOC_35681.pdf

This is why being a landlord stinks!



Yup this is all great info. To go a little further, I don't think you even legally say "no kids," even with a 1 BR.



All this goes out the window if the apt is in her home. She does not have to follow the anti discrimation laws.
It all has to do with the type of apt and in private homes is exempt



Just to expand/clarify - It's true that there are certain exceptions to the fair housing laws if someone is renting out part of their 1-4 family home and the landlord resides on site. But there are limits on that, too.

1. Certain fair housing laws that apply, in all circumstances (regardless of they type of apartment it is and regardless of whether the landlord lives there). For example, racial discrimination is never legal under any circumstances, even if the landlord is renting out part of his or her private home.

2. If a landlord chooses to engage the services of a real estate agent to rent out part of his private residence, then ALL fair housing laws must be complied with, always.

3. Keep in mind that there are not just federal and state laws, but also local laws that may differ. For example, in Nassau county, you cannot discriminate based on source of income (if you are using a real estate agent), but in Suffolk, there is no law saying you can't discriminate on source of income. So in Lindenhurst, a landlord can decide they don't want to accept a Section 8 tenant, but in Massapequa that would be illegal.

Because this is an area with a lot of potential pitfalls, I think it would be wise for any landlord who wants to bar a certain portion of the population from the apartment (e.g., no kids) to consult with a real estate attorney about their particular situation (especially if they are going to advertise their criteria for a tenant).

Posted 7/5/12 5:55 PM
 

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Re: Should I raise the rent?

Posted by Erica

My thoughts:

They want to move in together - don't give them a reason to look for another place.

If she moves out would you rent to a couple?

I see it as the same thing. I wouldn't raise at all. if there is a noticeable change in utilities, I might say when the lease is up you have to raise it.


She loves the apt to much to move out plus she has her 2 young kids everyother weekend and random days during the week- it is very convenient for her as she owns a house a few blocks away with her ex and the same school district- she was renting way out east before and it was rough plus she was paying more for less . the apt is beautiful, it is a mini house- i WOULD LIVE IN IT.

This is how I look at it with the boyfriend moving in. both are going to be saving lots of money, their expenses are now going to be cut in half at least.. I FEEL that i am supporting this on my dime as EVERYTHING is included in the rent washer dryer, i gave her a whole side (big) driveway parking hd/drv boxes, electric, etc.... of course the rent should go up.. why should they get a 2 for one on my expense? I only rented to her as it would be for a single with young kids living here part time--( she is an excellent tentant ) i am now thinking that $ 100 seems to low.

Posted 7/5/12 10:51 PM
 

evrythng4areason
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Re: Should I raise the rent?

more than 100?!?

how much is her rent to begin with?

also..if you're really concerned with it, is there a way to actually lower her rent a bit (the amount that she's paying for her portion of utilities-based on this i suppose 100 or more), and then have her put on her own for the utilities?

is it a legal apartment?

i thought legal apartments had to have a different meter for each apartment, so why couldn't she just pay her own utilities?

Posted 7/6/12 9:27 AM
 

lovemyfamily88
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Re: Should I raise the rent?

Posted by evrythng4areason

more than 100?!?

how much is her rent to begin with?

also..if you're really concerned with it, is there a way to actually lower her rent a bit (the amount that she's paying for her portion of utilities-based on this i suppose 100 or more), and then have her put on her own for the utilities?

is it a legal apartment?

i thought legal apartments had to have a different meter for each apartment, so why couldn't she just pay her own utilities?



I agree!

Posted 7/6/12 9:39 AM
 

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Re: Should I raise the rent?

Posted by lovemyfamily88

Posted by evrythng4areason

more than 100?!?

how much is her rent to begin with?

also..if you're really concerned with it, is there a way to actually lower her rent a bit (the amount that she's paying for her portion of utilities-based on this i suppose 100 or more), and then have her put on her own for the utilities?

is it a legal apartment?

i thought legal apartments had to have a different meter for each apartment, so why couldn't she just pay her own utilities?



I agree!



I think raising it by more than $100 might prompt her to start looking for a new apartment (unless you are charging such cheap rent to begin with that even after your $100 increase, this apartment is still a steal compared to similar ones in your neighborhood).

On a side note, I would definitely look into a separate meter. We have a house that we rent out and the tenants pay their own electric, heat and cooking gas. When we bought the house we originally paid for the heat until we converted to gas. One day, DH had to do something in the house during the winter and the tenants at the time had the heat on and the windows open. Chat Icon

Posted 7/6/12 10:33 AM
 
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