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HeathKernandez
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Help a parent?

I am SLOOOOOOOWLY becoming more & more confused while trying to help my 3rd grader with his math homework. (3rd GRADE!!! I KNOW!!!)

I eventually figure it out, but when you just have one example to go by, and an 8 year old who says 'I don't know..' when you ask him if you've learned it in class...

I can't imagine how much worse it's going to get.

Are there any math for dummies type books, that I can buy each year to FAMILIARIZE myself with what he is learning?

Thankfully, he does very well in math... I just feel so STUPID when he does come to me for help and it looks like Chinese...

an example would be that he was supposed to multiply 51x85 right... Well, I know how to multiply. but they WANTED him to write it like this:
(50 x 80) 4000
(50 x 5) 250
(80 x 1) 80
(1 x 5) 5
4335

I don't know if my memory is THAT SHOT, but I don't remember multiplying that way. Luckily I found an example and was able to figure *it* out... and he did well... but I would like to know what is coming as far as what he is learning.

also...can't hurt my OWN intelligence, ya know.

Message edited 4/2/2009 9:32:38 AM.

Posted 4/2/09 9:16 AM
 

mathteach
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Re: Help a parent?

I am soooo sorry. Unfortunately, this is the "new math" you've heard so much about. No, it's not new, but you're right. we never did this. On a smaller scale yes:

Ex: 105 * 8= (100*8) + (5*8)

The only advice I can offer is to try and google the textbook company they are using and check for companion sites.

I **think that city schools are using Everyday Math

GL & HTH

Posted 4/2/09 3:01 PM
 

MissJones
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Re: Help a parent?

Are you in NYC schools? If so, you can always ask. Does he have a student reference book? If so, he should bring that home and it's a good resource.

Posted 4/2/09 5:19 PM
 

trish71407
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Re: Help a parent?

If this is Everyday Math, which it sounds like it might be, they have a reference book, not a textbook. Maybe you can have your son bring it home with his homework. It will give you examples and explain the problems. I believe on the homework it tells you the reference pages.

Posted 4/3/09 9:06 AM
 

donegal419
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Re: Help a parent?

um..... he is doing this in THIRD grade? yes, as a teacher i understand what he is doing, but if that was his math for third grade, i think that's a bit much unless he is in some sort of advanced math class. yes, i know i teach special ed. so i am used to kids on a lower level, but fifth graders do that in my school.

Posted 4/3/09 1:37 PM
 

HeathKernandez
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Re: Help a parent?

Posted by MissJones

Are you in NYC schools? If so, you can always ask. Does he have a student reference book? If so, he should bring that home and it's a good resource.



yes. He is. I have that book. I was just wondering if there were any more types.

thanks everyone for their help!

Posted 4/3/09 7:27 PM
 

HeathKernandez
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Re: Help a parent?

Posted by donegal419

um..... he is doing this in THIRD grade? yes, as a teacher i understand what he is doing, but if that was his math for third grade, i think that's a bit much unless he is in some sort of advanced math class. yes, i know i teach special ed. so i am used to kids on a lower level, but fifth graders do that in my school.



not in an advanced class... in a nyc public school

Posted 4/3/09 7:28 PM
 

VirginiaDeb
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Re: Help a parent?

Ahh, yes, that's the new way they're teaching it!

I just learned it myself from a 4th grader I'm teaching.

It works for some, but not for all kids.

Posted 4/3/09 7:59 PM
 

mommyago
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Re: Help a parent?

there are other types of doing multiplication so beware haha...next up is lattice multiplication (but i actually really like this way) where they multiply in boxes then add down the diagonal

Posted 4/3/09 9:23 PM
 

Porrruss
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Re: Help a parent?

Posted by KeithHernandez

I am SLOOOOOOOWLY becoming more & more confused while trying to help my 3rd grader with his math homework. (3rd GRADE!!! I KNOW!!!)

I eventually figure it out, but when you just have one example to go by, and an 8 year old who says 'I don't know..' when you ask him if you've learned it in class...

I can't imagine how much worse it's going to get.

Are there any math for dummies type books, that I can buy each year to FAMILIARIZE myself with what he is learning?

Thankfully, he does very well in math... I just feel so STUPID when he does come to me for help and it looks like Chinese...

an example would be that he was supposed to multiply 51x85 right... Well, I know how to multiply. but they WANTED him to write it like this:
(50 x 80) 4000
(50 x 5) 250
(80 x 1) 80
(1 x 5) 5
4335

I don't know if my memory is THAT SHOT, but I don't remember multiplying that way. Luckily I found an example and was able to figure *it* out... and he did well... but I would like to know what is coming as far as what he is learning.

also...can't hurt my OWN intelligence, ya know.



Dude..... that's the *devil's math*Chat Icon

Posted 4/4/09 12:47 PM
 

Athee
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Re: Help a parent?

The way I taught this math was like this and a lot of the students liked it this way. (Multiplication wrestling)

51x 85

First stretch out the numbers:

50 +1 x 80 +5

now 50+ 1 is one team and 80+5 is another in a wrestling match.

50 has to battle out the 80 first and then the five:

sooo
50x 80= 4,000
50x 5= 250

now the next opponent (1) has to battle out the team so

1x 80= 80
1x5= 5

add all:

4000+250+80+5= 4,335


Next up is lattice. That one is WAY out there BUT very popular with my students.

Message edited 4/4/2009 2:31:40 PM.

Posted 4/4/09 2:30 PM
 

HeathKernandez
Our Ron is an awesome Ron

Member since 4/07

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baby fish mouth

Re: Help a parent?

Posted by Athee

The way I taught this math was like this and a lot of the students liked it this way. (Multiplication wrestling)

51x 85

First stretch out the numbers:

50 +1 x 80 +5

now 50+ 1 is one team and 80+5 is another in a wrestling match.

50 has to battle out the 80 first and then the five:

sooo
50x 80= 4,000
50x 5= 250

now the next opponent (1) has to battle out the team so

1x 80= 80
1x5= 5

add all:

4000+250+80+5= 4,335


Next up is lattice. That one is WAY out there BUT very popular with my students.



my head just exploded Chat Icon Chat Icon

thanks for the advice, I'll try this with DS.

Posted 4/7/09 3:33 PM
 

maggiebaby75
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Re: Help a parent?

Yeah...it's called the partial products algorithm and I am knee deep in it right now! Tell your kid to bring home the student reference book everynight. Also if this is homelinks hw there is a parent page that explains hwo to do the hw with your child.

Posted 4/7/09 5:07 PM
 

Athee
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A

Re: Help a parent?





my head just exploded Chat Icon Chat Icon

thanks for the advice, I'll try this with DS.



I know right!!! lol FM me if you need any more help!

Posted 4/7/09 8:21 PM
 
 

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