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HelenZ
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I know I should stay away from google right now....

but I'm using it for some reassurance and hopefully not to scare the crap out of myself! I figured I would share this article I found on calculating due dates for women who have cycles longer than 28 days (mine were usually 40 days).....so in this article it says if you were to ovulate on CD28 instead of the usual CD14, you'd be 2 weeks less pregnant than you thought you were. For me, ovulation would *usually* occur on CD 26 (even though it doesn't really work with my conception date)......so I'm using this article to reassure me for now until I have more concrete info from my doctor (and to help me sleep tonight!!!). I really hope I will just wind up with a later due date, and this is not all due to problems with my pregnancy.

here's the info I found (it may be long but might be helpful to others too):


Question:
Does the number of days in a woman's cycle affect the due date. Most pregnancy due date calculators I have seen assume a 28 day cycle. Some I have seen allow you to enter cycle length. Does it really matter?

Answer:
It can do if you have a particularly short or long cycle. One of my friends has a cycle that is never longer than 21 days, and I know there are women who have cycles of 35 - 40 days too. Those extra days can make a difference to the due date, which is a little more important if doctors start making a fuss about the fact that you've gone over your 40 weeks. Yes! Most women will ovulate 12-16 days *before* the start of their period. Its the length of time before ovulation which usually varies, not after. The average cycle is supposed to be 28 days, but anywhere from 21 to 35 is pretty normal. Most pregnancy calculators use the first day of the last period as their start date and assume ovulation on day 14. If you actually ovulated on day 28, you are two weeks less pregnant than you thought! If you have an induction happy OB, you might find yourself induced before your real due date. Believe me, I ovulated on day 31 when I got pregnant - its worth battling at teh beginning to get the date calculated correctly. I'd be off to my 41 week appointment this week and declining induction had I not got it corrected. I'm actually not due for another 10 days. Your due date is 266 days after your ovulation date, which generally occurs about 14 days before the last day of your cycle. So most calculators, assuming a 28 day cycle, are assuming ovulation on day 14 and therefore just add 280 to the first day of the cycle. This estimate will be a few days off if your cycle is more or less than 28 days. If you want a more accurate guess, you can subtract 14 from the day you expected your period, then add 266 days to that date. As others have said, it can matter a *lot*. Ovulation occurs 12-16 days before conception, regardless of how long your cycle is. Assuming a 28-day cycle can result in setting a due date that's either too early or too late (though I'd much rather have a too late EDD than a too early one!). The assumption of a 28-day cycle is particularly troublesome for women like me who have very long cycles (mine are 35-45 days), since it can result in setting an EDD that is as much as 2 weeks too early. With every one of my pregnancies, my original EDD calculated by my practitioner on the blasted wheel was *way* off. With my third, for example, my due date by LMP and the wheel of fortune was 2/18/02; I knew that was well off, and an ultrasound caused that date to be bumped to 2/28/02. All I can say is that I am very thankful that early ultrasound confirmed my dating, because I'd have wound up with way too early induction for being post-dates without it.


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Posted 1/14/09 8:32 PM
 
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Posted 1/14/09 8:38 PM
 

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Re: I know I should stay away from google right now....

Have you tried using pregnology.com? It has an option to calculate your DD by using your date of conception or LMP with cycle length. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

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Posted 1/14/09 8:45 PM
 

HelenZ
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Re: I know I should stay away from google right now....

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Have you tried using pregnology.com? It has an option to calculate your DD by using your date of conception or LMP with cycle length. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



actually I just tried calculating it with 2 different websites, babycenter.com and citranatal.com......here's what they gave me:

Due date:
9/08/09

fetus age: 6 weeks 1 day Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon which isn't SO far off from the measurements today of 5w5d.....now if my stomach would stop hurting I'd really feel better!!

here's a link:

citranatal.com

Posted 1/14/09 8:49 PM
 

HelenZ
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Re: I know I should stay away from google right now....

Posted by Shelleybean11

Have you tried using pregnology.com? It has an option to calculate your DD by using your date of conception or LMP with cycle length. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



I just checked that site out! great info!!

here's what it said, based off of my cycle length:

Last menstrual period: Thu, November 20th ,2008
Ovulation date: Mon, December 15th ,2008
Conception date: Tue, December 16th ,2008
Implantation date: Wed, December 24th ,2008
Due date: Tue, September 8th ,2009
Still to go:

the implantation date makes a lot of sense to me since I felt like complete CRAP on Christmas Eve, so maybe I was having implantation pain.

Posted 1/14/09 8:52 PM
 

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Re: I know I should stay away from google right now....

Look at it this way....

The second half of your cycle is ALWAYS around 14 days...it's the first half that varies.
So, if you have a 40 day cycle it means that you are ovulating around CD26...which would make you almost 2 weeks less pregnant than you think.

Posted 1/14/09 8:53 PM
 

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OH man Helen I hope all these numbers are a good sign!!!! Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 1/14/09 8:56 PM
 

Shelleybean11
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Re: I know I should stay away from google right now....

Posted by HelenZ

Posted by Shelleybean11

Have you tried using pregnology.com? It has an option to calculate your DD by using your date of conception or LMP with cycle length. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



I just checked that site out! great info!!

here's what it said, based off of my cycle length:

Last menstrual period: Thu, November 20th ,2008
Ovulation date: Mon, December 15th ,2008
Conception date: Tue, December 16th ,2008
Implantation date: Wed, December 24th ,2008
Due date: Tue, September 8th ,2009
Still to go:

the implantation date makes a lot of sense to me since I felt like complete CRAP on Christmas Eve, so maybe I was having implantation pain.



OMG I hope that this is correct, it definitely matches up with the 5W5D your OB had said!

Posted 1/14/09 8:56 PM
 

HelenZ
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Re: I know I should stay away from google right now....

Posted by Gertyrae

Look at it this way....

The second half of your cycle is ALWAYS around 14 days...it's the first half that varies.
So, if you have a 40 day cycle it means that you are ovulating around CD26...which would make you almost 2 weeks less pregnant than you think.



that's what I had always charted my OV date as (CD26)....I guess I'm just miffed b/c I know for a fact we conceived on 12/02 (which was CD12)......I guess my cycle is just completely wacky!

Posted 1/14/09 8:57 PM
 

HelenZ
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Re: I know I should stay away from google right now....

Posted by colette

OH man Helen I hope all these numbers are a good sign!!!! Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



oh me too Colette!! I can't wait for this Beta result tomorrow, if its within the range for 6 weeks, I'll feel so much better!!!!!

Posted 1/14/09 9:00 PM
 

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Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon im praying for you. Are you still spotting? dont give up hope you will read so many success stories on here even from some girls where there doc. wanted them to schedule a d&C and baby turned out being perfectly fine. I know its hard. Friday is almost here stay strong. Im praying for you.Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 1/14/09 9:01 PM
 

HelenZ
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Re: I know I should stay away from google right now....

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Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon im praying for you. Are you still spotting? dont give up hope you will read so many success stories on here even from some girls where there doc. wanted them to schedule a d&C and baby turned out being perfectly fine. I know its hard. Friday is almost here stay strong. Im praying for you.Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



I am still spotting, but my best friend (who's a nurse) said it could actually be a little worse before getting better b/c of the internal sono today and when they checked my cervix with that big swab today (which the doctor did confirm it was ALL old blood). it's only when I wipe, and it's still just brownish, so I'm keeping the faith for now.

and yes Stephybaby fm'd me, I went back and read what she went through, and at least my doctor is holding out til my next blood test/sono on Friday.....I'd be so p issed if I felt like they were giving up on me at the first visit!

thank you so much for your prayers!!! Chat Icon

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Posted 1/14/09 9:07 PM
 

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Re: I know I should stay away from google right now....

I'm glad you found some positive hopeful info. Keep thinking positive and get lots of rest. Try not to stress your body and LO. Not too much sitting on the computer and more lying down resting touching and talking to LO. Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 1/14/09 10:59 PM
 

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Re: I know I should stay away from google right now....

Posted by HelenZ

Posted by Gertyrae

Look at it this way....

The second half of your cycle is ALWAYS around 14 days...it's the first half that varies.
So, if you have a 40 day cycle it means that you are ovulating around CD26...which would make you almost 2 weeks less pregnant than you think.



that's what I had always charted my OV date as (CD26)....I guess I'm just miffed b/c I know for a fact we conceived on 12/02 (which was CD12)......I guess my cycle is just completely wacky!



that's not necessarily true - my LP (the second half of your cycle) is only about 10-11 days. I'm a late ovulater too. The cycle I got pregnant, I don't think I ovulated until CD24 (I was temping).

How do you know for a face you conceived on CD12? Even if you're using OPK's, you could get a positive and then not ovulate, as they measure LH, which can build up in your system, but not result in ovulation at that time.

There are lots of factors that influence your date of pregnancy - sperm can live inside of you for several days and implantation can take anywhere between 6-12 days or so, on top of that, sono measurements can have an error margin of about +/- 3-4 days. There are lots of factors, and the only thing that's going to tell you for sure is another sono in a few days.

Good luck!!! Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon incidentally, Sept 8 is my birthday, so that's a great due date! Chat Icon - and stop Googling!!!!!Chat Icon

Posted 1/15/09 6:56 AM
 

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Re: I know I should stay away from google right now....

If your cycles are longer than 28 days yes it does change your EDD b.c you usually O later.

I have PCOS - and according to my LMP my EDD should have been 6/3 (my now scheduled csection date) I didn't O until something like day 24 so my cycle would have been like 40 days long - so they originally use my LMP date until they did a sono to date the pregnancy which showed that my new EDD was June 11th. So if you have irregular cycles I would not panic - if you told your OB that you are irregular or have longer cycles they should be recalculating how far along you are.Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 1/15/09 8:16 AM
 

HelenZ
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Re: I know I should stay away from google right now....

Posted by usuk2004

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Posted by Gertyrae

Look at it this way....

The second half of your cycle is ALWAYS around 14 days...it's the first half that varies.
So, if you have a 40 day cycle it means that you are ovulating around CD26...which would make you almost 2 weeks less pregnant than you think.



that's what I had always charted my OV date as (CD26)....I guess I'm just miffed b/c I know for a fact we conceived on 12/02 (which was CD12)......I guess my cycle is just completely wacky!



that's not necessarily true - my LP (the second half of your cycle) is only about 10-11 days. I'm a late ovulater too. The cycle I got pregnant, I don't think I ovulated until CD24 (I was temping).

How do you know for a face you conceived on CD12? Even if you're using OPK's, you could get a positive and then not ovulate, as they measure LH, which can build up in your system, but not result in ovulation at that time.

There are lots of factors that influence your date of pregnancy - sperm can live inside of you for several days and implantation can take anywhere between 6-12 days or so, on top of that, sono measurements can have an error margin of about +/- 3-4 days. There are lots of factors, and the only thing that's going to tell you for sure is another sono in a few days.

Good luck!!! Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon incidentally, Sept 8 is my birthday, so that's a great due date! Chat Icon - and stop Googling!!!!!Chat Icon



I wasn't using OPK's so I really don't know when I ovulated......but I do know that I conceived on Dec. 2nd (CD12) b/c I got laid off Dec. 3rd and we stopped TTC after that (figured we'd wait until I got a new job).....so Dec. 2nd was the last time I could have gotten pregnant. I'm hoping the dates still work out somehow.

Posted 1/15/09 8:33 AM
 

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Re: I know I should stay away from google right now....

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OH man Helen I hope all these numbers are a good sign!!!! Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



oh me too Colette!! I can't wait for this Beta result tomorrow, if its within the range for 6 weeks, I'll feel so much better!!!!!

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Posted 1/15/09 8:34 AM
 

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Re: I know I should stay away from google right now....

Posted by HelenZ

Posted by usuk2004

Posted by HelenZ

Posted by Gertyrae

Look at it this way....

The second half of your cycle is ALWAYS around 14 days...it's the first half that varies.
So, if you have a 40 day cycle it means that you are ovulating around CD26...which would make you almost 2 weeks less pregnant than you think.



that's what I had always charted my OV date as (CD26)....I guess I'm just miffed b/c I know for a fact we conceived on 12/02 (which was CD12)......I guess my cycle is just completely wacky!



that's not necessarily true - my LP (the second half of your cycle) is only about 10-11 days. I'm a late ovulater too. The cycle I got pregnant, I don't think I ovulated until CD24 (I was temping).

How do you know for a face you conceived on CD12? Even if you're using OPK's, you could get a positive and then not ovulate, as they measure LH, which can build up in your system, but not result in ovulation at that time.

There are lots of factors that influence your date of pregnancy - sperm can live inside of you for several days and implantation can take anywhere between 6-12 days or so, on top of that, sono measurements can have an error margin of about +/- 3-4 days. There are lots of factors, and the only thing that's going to tell you for sure is another sono in a few days.

Good luck!!! Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon incidentally, Sept 8 is my birthday, so that's a great due date! Chat Icon - and stop Googling!!!!!Chat Icon



I wasn't using OPK's so I really don't know when I ovulated......but I do know that I conceived on Dec. 2nd (CD12) b/c I got laid off Dec. 3rd and we stopped TTC after that (figured we'd wait until I got a new job).....so Dec. 2nd was the last time I could have gotten pregnant. I'm hoping the dates still work out somehow.



Okay, well that makes sense - BUT sperm can live inside of you for up to five days, so it's still possible that you conceived later than you think you did. Try not to stress too much about the dates - You could just have a late implanter! Chat Icon

Posted 1/15/09 8:57 AM
 
 

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