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dandr10199
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Re: The wedding's off -- see you in court!
Posted by Shelly
Posted by Kara
Actually, in contracts law, an engagement ring was something given for a promise of marriage. If the promise of marriage no longer exists the ring must be returned - in most jurisidctions.
That's the law in New York.
Even if it is given as a gift at Christmas?
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Re: The wedding's off -- see you in court!
They are 21 and can afford that ring, I think they should give it to me - I need the $ more! 
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| Posted 10/19/07 4:10 PM |
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dooodles
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Re: The wedding's off -- see you in court!
Normally I would say an engagement ring is a gift (one that I personally would return)
HOWEVER, "Castellano has threatened to sell or destroy the 3.23-carat ring, even though the couple agreed the ring would be returned to Kuehnen if their engagement was ever broken off, the complaint says.
If she agreed to return the ring if their engagement was broken - then she should live up to her words. Emotions and bad ones at that are making these decisions.
Not going to end nicely
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| Posted 10/19/07 4:10 PM |
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Shelly
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Re: The wedding's off -- see you in court!
Posted by dandr10199
Posted by Shelly
Posted by Kara
Actually, in contracts law, an engagement ring was something given for a promise of marriage. If the promise of marriage no longer exists the ring must be returned - in most jurisidctions.
That's the law in New York.
Even if it is given as a gift at Christmas?
Well the attorney would have to argue that it was a Christmas gift, not an engagement ring.
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| Posted 10/19/07 4:14 PM |
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babymakes3
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Re: The wedding's off -- see you in court!
Posted by Christine
I agree with Emily post -- the ring should go back unless it's an heirloom from the bride's family.
I agree. It should be given back regardless if the proposal was on/near Christmas.
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| Posted 10/19/07 4:21 PM |
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codybear
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Re: The wedding's off -- see you in court!
Being a lawyer, I think bright line rules never work in law.
I was previously engaged, and I kept the ring. Initially he wanted it back, but I would have fought him for it. He eventually came to the realization that for him to get the ring back and walk away scott free wouldn't have been fair and he just let it go.
In the end, the cost to me and my family for lost deposits etc was worth about 1/2 the cost of the ring. The other things he stuck me with that are still costing me money to this day, cost me way more than the other half.
He came out ahead. If he had fought me on keeping the ring, I would have sued him for every penny I lost on everything else and it would have been downright ugly, I'll admit and I'm confident I would have won on most id not all of it. He got off easy, bottom line. I'm still picking up the pieces (financially not emotionally)
Of course, my ring wasn't worth as much as this couple. It wasn't a family heirloom etc.
I think no judgment can be made until all the fact surrounding the incident come to light.
Message edited 10/19/2007 4:34:20 PM.
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| Posted 10/19/07 4:33 PM |
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angnick
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Re: The wedding's off -- see you in court!
i would return the ring, but if the guy gave me a hard time like cheated on me or what not i would keep it a bit longer make him sweat then give it out;
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| Posted 10/19/07 4:36 PM |
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nrthshgrl
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Re: The wedding's off -- see you in court!
Posted by codybearI think no judgment can be made until all the fact surrounding the incident come to light.
See that's what the reporters need to be reporting...
Where did he get that kind of money?
Who cheated on who?
Signed,
I live in a tabloid world.
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| Posted 10/19/07 4:38 PM |
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smdl
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Re: The wedding's off -- see you in court!
Posted by Shelly
Posted by Kara
Actually, in contracts law, an engagement ring was something given for a promise of marriage. If the promise of marriage no longer exists the ring must be returned - in most jurisidctions.
That's the law in New York.
Judge Judy ruled on that once.
I needs to be return UNLESS it was given at Christmas or birthday, then it's concidered a gift and does not need to be returned.
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| Posted 10/19/07 4:44 PM |
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Faithx2
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Re: The wedding's off -- see you in court!
Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH
Posted by nrthshgrl
Posted by MrsT
First off, how does a 21 year old afford a $48,800 engagement ring
She's the grandaughter of Paul Castellano (gunned down mob boss). So um...maybe he works in the stock market?
I was just about to ask... Is this the Castellano "family"... the infamous one?
If that's the case, I have no comment.
I'm desperate for a new pair of shoes but not cement ones
Exactly
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CkGm
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Re: The wedding's off -- see you in court!
I can't see keeping the ring- unless he stuck her with the cost of a wedding and ran off at the last minute. Other than that- no way.
I broke off an engagement and returned the ring pronto.
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| Posted 10/19/07 5:15 PM |
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cutie
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Re: The wedding's off -- see you in court!
Did anyone notice that the article just says a $48,000 ring - not a ring that he paid $48,000 for - I wonder if that amount is the appraised value, or what he actually paid.
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| Posted 10/19/07 7:07 PM |
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Diane
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Re: The wedding's off -- see you in court!
Posted by curliegirl
I believe I learned in college that an engagement ring is a form of a contract, and that contract is marriage.
No marriage, ring goes back to the purchaser. The contract has been broken.
YES!!!! I learned that on Judge Judy
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| Posted 10/19/07 7:20 PM |
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nyteacher13
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Re: The wedding's off -- see you in court!
Posted by BabyAvocado
Also... a $50k engagement ring from a 21-yr-old? Must be nice... 
Yea, I'm too caught up on this point! What 21 year old has 50K for a ring? Trump's nephew or something?  
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| Posted 10/19/07 9:01 PM |
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nyteacher13
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Re: The wedding's off -- see you in court!
Posted by cutie
Did anyone notice that the article just says a $48,000 ring - not a ring that he paid $48,000 for - I wonder if that amount is the appraised value, or what he actually paid.
ha! regardless!!! Appraised for 50k or not, it STILL has to be worth in the 20 thousand $ area... I don't know about you, but my ring is LOVELY and it was DEFINITELY not 20k... 
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| Posted 10/19/07 9:02 PM |
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SweetestOfPeas
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Re: The wedding's off -- see you in court!
Posted by imthecindyofcindyandkevin
The ring was given to her in exchange for her hand in marriage, IMO no marriage=no ring.
ITA
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