Re: Would you go to HR?

"I agree with you, this is what my gut tells me is going to happen too. They are not there for the sole purpose of the employees. They are not there to protect the company and this boss of mine fired a woman while on maternity and rumor has it she sued the company - and won!
So if I was to bring something up, I think they wont take it lightly given his history.

Also, I've documented things that have happened in the last few months and it would't look good in his favor...he made an inappropriate sexual comment not too long ago...playfully bumps my shoulders when he sees me (like a "hey pal"), puts his hand over my hand on my mouse when he wants to see something on my computer. Like I said in my original post, there are a few things that have happened. This comment involving my toddler is what threw me over the edge!

However, all that said, I need this job, I like my job....I don't want this to go down in a bad way and then my reputation is at stake.
"


woah, this is horse of a different color. and from what you said and the documented things you have, then you need to build a case and talk to HR.
there has a to be a paper trail of inappropriate conduct, that way if someday you are wrongfully fired, you have a case and can sue or at least not lose your job.

I am far from a whistle blower but everything you wrote screams HR!!!! feeling that you might be retaliated against etc for speaking up is a major red flag.

he needs to be spoken to and take a few classes. that is the only way he will learn to keep his mouth shut and think twice.

Message edited 2/20/2015 11:08:16 AM.

Re: Would you go to HR?

Posted by nrthshgrl

Posted by ChilisWife

Posted by mrsBLT

That depends on what you'd like to happen and what you'd actually tell HR.

If you want to tell them he called you useless and actually have them look into it, speak to him about it, etc. then tell HR.

If you want to just document that he called you useless, then don't go to HR. Keep a running document yourself until you feel you're at the point where you want something done about it.

HR departments don't just "document" something. They're there to protect to the company and if someone reports something that could potentially blow up into something else, they're going to investigate it - including speaking to your boss, probably meeting with the both of you at the same time.

However, in either case, I'd document that he said the daycare/review thing, but keep it out of HR.

I agree. Just understand that going to HR does not mean you are secretly documenting something. HR will need to ask your boss about what you said. Im not saying you shouldnt report it but you should know what to expect.

For an HR perspective, I believe our job is a liaison between companies & employees. We are here to keep our company out of trouble with the law so if they're doing something illegal, yes we are here to protect them & make sure they're on the straight & narrow.

Plenty of employees complain about their bosses & vice versa. Basically it's a he said/she said and documentation is always your friend. But HR is going to ask your boss about the situation to get his point of view (including his view on why he said you are "useless".)

I agree to speak to daycare too. Also if my boss ever said my kid's daycare behavior like that was going on my review, I'd tell him then he better teach his kid how to defend himself really well.
In all seriousness, I would not want them in the same classroom & would ask about what other options there were.

Re: Would you go to HR?

Posted by sometimesmommy

Posted by nrthshgrl

Posted by ChilisWife

Posted by mrsBLT

That depends on what you'd like to happen and what you'd actually tell HR.

If you want to tell them he called you useless and actually have them look into it, speak to him about it, etc. then tell HR.

If you want to just document that he called you useless, then don't go to HR. Keep a running document yourself until you feel you're at the point where you want something done about it.

HR departments don't just "document" something. They're there to protect to the company and if someone reports something that could potentially blow up into something else, they're going to investigate it - including speaking to your boss, probably meeting with the both of you at the same time.

However, in either case, I'd document that he said the daycare/review thing, but keep it out of HR.

I agree. Just understand that going to HR does not mean you are secretly documenting something. HR will need to ask your boss about what you said. Im not saying you shouldnt report it but you should know what to expect.

For an HR perspective, I believe our job is a liaison between companies & employees. We are here to keep our company out of trouble with the law so if they're doing something illegal, yes we are here to protect them & make sure they're on the straight & narrow.

Plenty of employees complain about their bosses & vice versa. Basically it's a he said/she said and documentation is always your friend. But HR is going to ask your boss about the situation to get his point of view (including his view on why he said you are "useless".)

I agree to speak to daycare too. Also if my boss ever said my kid's daycare behavior like that was going on my review, I'd tell him then he better teach his kid how to defend himself really well.
In all seriousness, I would not want them in the same classroom & would ask about what other options there were.

And there is the key--HR will ask the boss. As someone who worked in HR I will say that most people I've encountered come to HR with expectations different than what may happen. Its not only the employees perspective that is analyzed but the boss as well. Once you start peeling back the layers, you ever know what you may find. Its not to scare anyone but HR is not a therapist. It is there to protect company FIRST along with legal. And that doesnt always mean a work environment have to be ideal. Sometimes the answer can be deal with your boss or get another job.

Re: Would you go to HR?

Yes so its on record. Jerk!

Re: Would you go to HR?

Posted by JennCo

Posted by sometimesmommy

Posted by nrthshgrl

Posted by ChilisWife

Posted by mrsBLT

That depends on what you'd like to happen and what you'd actually tell HR.

If you want to tell them he called you useless and actually have them look into it, speak to him about it, etc. then tell HR.

If you want to just document that he called you useless, then don't go to HR. Keep a running document yourself until you feel you're at the point where you want something done about it.

HR departments don't just "document" something. They're there to protect to the company and if someone reports something that could potentially blow up into something else, they're going to investigate it - including speaking to your boss, probably meeting with the both of you at the same time.

However, in either case, I'd document that he said the daycare/review thing, but keep it out of HR.

I agree. Just understand that going to HR does not mean you are secretly documenting something. HR will need to ask your boss about what you said. Im not saying you shouldnt report it but you should know what to expect.

For an HR perspective, I believe our job is a liaison between companies & employees. We are here to keep our company out of trouble with the law so if they're doing something illegal, yes we are here to protect them & make sure they're on the straight & narrow.

Plenty of employees complain about their bosses & vice versa. Basically it's a he said/she said and documentation is always your friend. But HR is going to ask your boss about the situation to get his point of view (including his view on why he said you are "useless".)

I agree to speak to daycare too. Also if my boss ever said my kid's daycare behavior like that was going on my review, I'd tell him then he better teach his kid how to defend himself really well.
In all seriousness, I would not want them in the same classroom & would ask about what other options there were.

And there is the key--HR will ask the boss. As someone who worked in HR I will say that most people I've encountered come to HR with expectations different than what may happen. Its not only the employees perspective that is analyzed but the boss as well. Once you start peeling back the layers, you ever know what you may find. Its not to scare anyone but HR is not a therapist. It is there to protect company FIRST along with legal. And that doesnt always mean a work environment have to be ideal. Sometimes the answer can be deal with your boss or get another job.

I appreciate the HR perspective, thank you! This is my concern, if i come to them with all these things that have occurred in the last few months, they are definetely going to go to him, right? Then what, I'm stuck in an uncomfortable situation?

How does that usually play out from your experience? I can't see how it CAN'T be awkward!