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lucyloo
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Vote Aqui
I saw this at the polls tonight and it really ticks me off. If you don't know what "Vote Here" means then you have no business voting IMO.
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| Posted 11/6/07 7:45 PM |
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kellsbells7
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Re: Vote Aqui
I disagree.
It is possible that new CITIZENS (as one would have to be in order to vote...) are taking their position as new AMERICAN CITIZENS more seriously than MOST American citizens BORN HERE and actually do their research to see who the best candidates are.
Many, if not most, candidates appeal to the Spanish speaking portion of our population with information translated into Spanish. Therefore it is quite possible that these citizens are on top of all the issues but still don't have that great of a grasp on the language. IMO - I would welcome a million dedicated, civic-minded Spanish speaking citizens over 2 million lazy, apathetic native born Americans who can't even take the time to vote.
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| Posted 11/6/07 9:34 PM |
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lovemy2boys
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Re: Vote Aqui
Posted by dita
I saw this at the polls tonight and it really ticks me off. If you don't know what "Vote Here" means then you have no business voting IMO.
 A little harsh I think
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| Posted 11/6/07 9:55 PM |
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Beth
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Re: Vote Aqui
From the US Citizenship requirments....
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Applicants for naturalization must be able to read, write, speak, and understand words in ordinary usage in the English language. Applicants exempt from this requirement are those who on the date of filing:
therefore I would assume that if you are voting- you would and should be able to read "Vote Here" in english
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| Posted 11/6/07 9:59 PM |
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Message edited 11/14/2011 9:57:00 PM.
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Re: Vote Aqui
Posted by kellsbells7
I disagree.
It is possible that new CITIZENS (as one would have to be in order to vote...) are taking their position as new AMERICAN CITIZENS more seriously than MOST American citizens BORN HERE and actually do their research to see who the best candidates are.
Many, if not most, candidates appeal to the Spanish speaking portion of our population with information translated into Spanish. Therefore it is quite possible that these citizens are on top of all the issues but still don't have that great of a grasp on the language. IMO - I would welcome a million dedicated, civic-minded Spanish speaking citizens over 2 million lazy, apathetic native born Americans who can't even take the time to vote.
i agree
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lucyloo
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Don't you need to know basic english to become a citizen?
Posted by kellsbells7
I disagree.
It is possible that new CITIZENS (as one would have to be in order to vote...) are taking their position as new AMERICAN CITIZENS more seriously than MOST American citizens BORN HERE and actually do their research to see who the best candidates are.
Many, if not most, candidates appeal to the Spanish speaking portion of our population with information translated into Spanish. Therefore it is quite possible that these citizens are on top of all the issues but still don't have that great of a grasp on the language. IMO - I would welcome a million dedicated, civic-minded Spanish speaking citizens over 2 million lazy, apathetic native born Americans who can't even take the time to vote.
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| Posted 11/6/07 10:02 PM |
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lucyloo
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Posted by dita
I saw this at the polls tonight and it really ticks me off. If you don't know what "Vote Here" means then you have no business voting IMO.
A little harsh I think
No, I don't think so.
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| Posted 11/6/07 10:03 PM |
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Jessica
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i found it as a marketing approach
it appeals to the spanish community, which they know there is a lot here on the island
it appealed to me, doesnt me i cant read or write in english
just like the marketing approach of "drugs are dope"... teenagers know and understand "stupid and "dumb" but the word "dope" appeals more to them
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| Posted 11/6/07 10:04 PM |
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lucyloo
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I don't understand how you can be a citizen and not know what Vote Here means.
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| Posted 11/6/07 10:05 PM |
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lucyloo
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Posted by Jessica
i found it as a marketing approach
it appeals to the spanish community, which they know there is a lot here on the island
it appealed to me, doesnt me i cant read or write in english
just like the marketing approach of "drugs are dope"... teenagers know and understand "stupid and "dumb" but the word "dope" appeals more to them
I can see it in as marketing approach for business, that makes sense- you want to expand your customer base.
They printed signs (not the candidates to my knowledge) that said Vote Aqui which I would assume some of my tax dollars are paying for. As far as I know, to be a US Citizen you should know basic English. Vote Here is basic English.
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| Posted 11/6/07 10:10 PM |
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Goldi0218
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I speak both Spanish and English. I had no issues.
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| Posted 11/6/07 10:36 PM |
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As a first generation American and the wife of an immigrant, I know my grandparents struggled to learn English. it was their 5th language. But they couldn't get work until they learned English, so they did. When my dad came to the US, he didn't know any English. He learned from TV and the kids in the neighborhood. My mom also didn't know English when she came to the US, and she is now a retired ESL teacher. But I do believe that it is important for citizens to learn basic English.
Personally, the only thing about "vote aqui" that bothers me is that it excludes all the other people who don't speak Spanish. NY has tons of people who speak languages other than Spanish.
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Re: Vote Aqui
Posted by kellsbells7
I would welcome a million dedicated, civic-minded Spanish speaking citizens over 2 million lazy, apathetic native born Americans who can't even take the time to vote.
I 100% agree. I see nothing wrong with using language that appeals to ALL US citizens
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| Posted 11/6/07 10:39 PM |
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Posted by Shelly
Personally, the only thing about "vote aqui" that bothers me is that it excludes all the other people who don't speak Spanish. NY has tons of people who speak languages other than Spanish.
I agree completely.... I find it rather strange that in the NY metro area, foreign language = Spanish
Why is only spanish provided everywhere, and no other language? There are large NY populations who speak mandarin, cantonese, arabic, polish, russian, and various french dialects (from france, haiti, algeria...)...... just to name a few. To me it seems a bit 'selectively inclusive' to constantly and only translate into Spanish...
case in point: in stony brook U, there is a very large Chinese population, many of whom recently became citizens. While the university staff is fluent in english, their families frequently aren't, yet all voting station signs in the area are translated only into Spanish....
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Tany
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Re: Vote Aqui
I don't think there is nothing wrong with it, considering that hispanics are the largest minority group in the U.S.A.
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Mommy2Boys
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Re: Vote Aqui
I dont have a problem with people speaking different languages, however, I believe that people who live here who learn english.
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Posted by marriedinportjeff
Why is only spanish provided everywhere, and no other language? There are large NY populations who speak mandarin, cantonese, arabic, polish, russian, and various french dialects (from france, haiti, algeria...)...... just to name a few. To me it seems a bit 'selectively inclusive' to constantly and only translate into Spanish...
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Because Spanish is the second largest language in the world besides English.
Many signs in France, China, Poland, etc. have signs in English and Spanish along with the native language.
Hence the reason when you make a call now it says for English press one, for Espanol press two.
Although, I personally don't think the signs in the polls should be in Spanish and I noticed tonight that they had a woman who spoke Spanish to those who can't speak English in order to direct them.
I think it's a terrible affront to people who come from other countries that aren't spanish-speaking to this country, have to learn our language and then watch the spanish speaking get catered to.
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| Posted 11/6/07 11:29 PM |
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Posted by Gertyrae
Because Spanish is the second largest language in the world besides English.
Many signs in France, China, Poland, etc. have signs in English and Spanish along with the native language.
Hence the reason when you make a call now it says for English press one, for Espanol press two.
Although, I personally don't think the signs in the polls should be in Spanish and I noticed tonight that they had a woman who spoke Spanish to those who can't speak English in order to direct them.
I think it's a terrible affront to people who come from other countries that aren't spanish-speaking to this country, have to learn our language and then watch the spanish speaking get catered to.
I agree completely, but have to correct you on something... the most commonly spoken language in the world is mandarin, the second, is english, the third is hindustani (offical language of india), and the forth is spanish....
but I will agree that the most non-english speakers in the US likely ARE spanish-speakers.... But that doesn't mean that it's true in specific neighborhoods, and this is really what concerns me. Many local polling stations ignore local immigrant populations, and merely slap a spanish sign on the wall...... not terribly inclusive 
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Gertyrae
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Posted by marriedinportjeff
I agree completely, but have to correct you on something... the most commonly spoken language in the world is mandarin, the second, is english, the third is hindustani (offical language of india), and the forth is spanish....
Totally off topic here, but - In technical terms you are correct. But as far as people who have relocated or travel - Engilsh and Spanish are the most recognized languages.
Mandarin and Hindustani are based on the populations of those countries.
I do agree with you in some respects...although I also have to say that in Hicksville, where I work, almost all signs are in some form of Eastern language - I'm not sure which since I don't speak them, but they definitely aren't Spanish.
I think most neighborhoods do cater to their clientele and population by speaking and putting signs in the "popular" language of that area.
I don't think the polls go to the trouble, though.
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| Posted 11/6/07 11:52 PM |
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Posted by imthekevinofcindyandkevin
And people wonder why the sins of the past continue. A little intolerant if you ask me, but you didn't you just posted a racially charged topic on a public forum. Let the games begin.
Whether the sign said "Vote Aqui" or "votare qui" or "Wählen Sie hier" - I dont think this post was racially charged whatsoever.
On the contrary, since Spanish is spoken by a sizable minority I can understand why that sign was there. However, if it was written in 70 different languages, that would be a problem.
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Bxgell2
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Re: Vote Aqui
Why would you assume that a sign written in Spanish indicates the reader can't speak or read english? There are a multitude of reasons why one would put up a sign written in Spanish at the polls, other than the reason you are implicating. I'm really perplexed why the mere presence of a spanish sign would irritate you so much.
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| Posted 11/7/07 8:42 AM |
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lucyloo
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Posted by Bxgell2
Why would you assume that a sign written in Spanish indicates the reader can't speak or read english? There are a multitude of reasons why one would put up a sign written in Spanish at the polls, other than the reason you are implicating. I'm really perplexed why the mere presence of a spanish sign would irritate you so much.
Why wouldn't I assume that? Why would you have a sign in Spanish for people who speak English?
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Bxgell2
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Why would you assume that a sign written in Spanish indicates the reader can't speak or read english? There are a multitude of reasons why one would put up a sign written in Spanish at the polls, other than the reason you are implicating. I'm really perplexed why the mere presence of a spanish sign would irritate you so much.
Why wouldn't I assume that? Why would you have a sign in Spanish for people who speak English?
Ummm, I don't know, maybe because a HUGE percentage of people who live in the U.S. are not native to the U.S., and while they may speak and understand english, they also appreciate when others recognize that there's a vast number of people who live here whose first language is not english?
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