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octoberbride
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So, I think I may have had a chemical pg. Yesterday I had some light brown spotting, which turned into red heavier spotting, which has seemed to turn into a very painful AF (albiet a weird, early one...which never happens to me. If anything I am usually a day late as opposed to early...and I have never had cramps THIS bad). Also, once the red heavier spotting happened yesterday, I was unsure what was going on (since it didnt seem like my normal AF) so I tested and it was the faintest line ever. But this morning, it was negative again. So, I think it implanted but for whatever reason, didn't stick. As of this morning, my boobs are finally less sore than they have been in 2 weeks...so I am sure it is my symptoms going away.
We are disappointed, but from the little reading I have done, it is not uncommon for this to happen. And I could see this happening to people and them not even realizing it...bc it just seems like AF. If it weren't for all the symptoms I had this week, I probably would have thought that too.
So my questions - anyone have experience with this? Could this mean something is wrong with me or impact our future months of TTC? My cycles are very regular, and I ovulate every month. Is there a chance of this happening again? Will my next cycle be messed up? Do I start counting CD1 from yesterday, when I started spotting heavy or do I count it from when my period was supposed to come (tomorrow)? Maybe I should just use OPK's everyday next month???
Thanks!!!
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Re: Update
sorry, i have no advice.
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Posted 3/18/07 9:31 AM |
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Rycois
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Re: Update
I'm sorry If you think you had a chemical, I would def. call your doctor and schedule an appt for an exam and bloodwork.
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Posted 3/18/07 9:48 AM |
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Mrs
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Re: Update
Posted by octoberbride
So my questions - anyone have experience with this? Could this mean something is wrong with me or impact our future months of TTC? Is there a chance of this happening again? Will my next cycle be messed up? Do I start counting CD1 from yesterday, when I started spotting heavy or do I count it from when my period was supposed to come (tomorrow)? Maybe I should just use OPK's everyday next month???
Thanks!!!
First:
Second: for next month! Third: Unfortunately the probability of us 'conceiving' is only 20%. There is a 50/50 chance the egg implants, and a 50/50 change it sticks. Chem. pg are common mostly due to the formation of the egg and sperm that isn't 'right'. Its possible for this to happen every month and that is why they say to try for 6 months / 1 year b4 consulting a doctor - its about increasing the odds. Thus, even if the timing was just right for conception that is only the first step. You should, I belive, count CD 1 from the first day of heavy period. In my optinion -there is no need to see a doctor, just try next month
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Posted 3/18/07 10:11 AM |
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Re: Update
Was this your first month TTC? The only reason that i ask is because last month was my first month and i was just so in tune with my body that i thought for sure i was preggo. My boobs were horribly sore also and other strange things were happening. in the end i got AF a day late. I think that a lot of the "symptoms" I was experiencing were probably things that happen all the time, but I was just unaware because in the past I wasnt thinking about getting pregnant. The only weird thing is the faint line you got last night.... I never got anything even close to a faint line on a pregnancy test.
If I were you I would call the doctor and ask if you should schedule an appt. It can't hurt right? If it was a chemical pregnancy I certainly dont think you have anything to worry about as far as getting pregnant is concerned. From everything I've read it seems they are fairly common and women go on to have healthy pregnancies afterwards.
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Rycois
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Re: Update
I think it's important to see a doctor b/c, not to scare you, but some women continually have chemicals. While you could have just had the one and will go on to future successful pregnancies, this could happen again, so I think it would be useful to see the doctor from the beginniing - so it's documented and discussed.
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Mrs
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Re: Update
Posted by SweetCaroline
I think it's important to see a doctor b/c, not to scare you, but some women continually have chemicals. While you could have just had the one and will go on to future successful pregnancies, this could happen again, so I think it would be useful to see the doctor from the beginniing - so it's documented and discussed.
Honestly, it won't hurt to call your doc to be safe. But I can tell you, that doctors don't follow up on one offs... if it happens once they usually tell you to wait and IF it happens again than to call. I once had my AF after 15 days, and my DH (dr) told me to wait to see if it happens again. I didn't believe him and called the OBGYN who said the same. Same thing happend when I didn't think I ovulated once.
Honestly, unless there is a pattern its not worth for them doing anything. And, Chem are VERY common if you take the odds. JMO
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Posted 3/18/07 10:28 AM |
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octoberbride
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Re: Update
Posted by Mrs
Posted by SweetCaroline
I think it's important to see a doctor b/c, not to scare you, but some women continually have chemicals. While you could have just had the one and will go on to future successful pregnancies, this could happen again, so I think it would be useful to see the doctor from the beginniing - so it's documented and discussed.
Honestly, it won't hurt to call your doc to be safe. But I can tell you, that doctors don't follow up on one offs... if it happens once they usually tell you to wait and IF it happens again than to call. I once had my AF after 15 days, and my DH (dr) told me to wait to see if it happens again. I didn't believe him and called the OBGYN who said the same. Same thing happend when I didn't think I ovulated once.
Honestly, unless there is a pattern its not worth for them doing anything. And, Chem are VERY common if you take the odds. JMO
Thanks! I am going to make an appt just in case - being its time for my annual anyway. I have been reading that 50 - 60% of first pg's end up chemical, so hopefully it's nothing more than that....but it can't hurt for me to talk to the doc!
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Posted 3/18/07 10:31 AM |
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megsm3
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Re: Update
so sorry this happened to you
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Posted 3/18/07 10:33 AM |
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octoberbride
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Posted by lululu
Was this your first month TTC? The only reason that i ask is because last month was my first month and i was just so in tune with my body that i thought for sure i was preggo. My boobs were horribly sore also and other strange things were happening. in the end i got AF a day late. I think that a lot of the "symptoms" I was experiencing were probably things that happen all the time, but I was just unaware because in the past I wasnt thinking about getting pregnant. The only weird thing is the faint line you got last night.... I never got anything even close to a faint line on a pregnancy test.
If I were you I would call the doctor and ask if you should schedule an appt. It can't hurt right? If it was a chemical pregnancy I certainly dont think you have anything to worry about as far as getting pregnant is concerned. From everything I've read it seems they are fairly common and women go on to have healthy pregnancies afterwards.
Yep - this was our first month trying. I know we conceived....so hopefully it was just by random chance that it wasn't viable..
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alexlynn7
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Re: Update
i'm so sorry from what you're saying it definitely sounds like you've had a chemical pg.
i would call your doc to inform him/her and see if an appointment is necessary. but i don't see how this would interfere with your ttc again. sure, in some cases women have many chemicals and aren't able to progress for some reason. but chemicals are also very common and happen to many normal women who are ttc at one point or another. so i wouldn't take this as a sign of fertility troubles.
for next month!!!
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Posted 3/18/07 11:18 AM |
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sorry this happened to you.... i think that something similar happened to me our first month trying - either that or i knocked my cycle out of wack becuase i was stressin so much about it! --- either way - we choose to try a couple of months without seeing a dr and not to test before 15dpo to avoid feeling this way again..... the next month we got a BFP! my advice to you is to do whatever makes you feel the most comfortable.... if thats seeing a dr you should do so --- im a big fan now of te OPK - and highly recommend them - takes most of the guess work out of the process..
good luck and to you next month!
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Superkat
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Posted 3/18/07 11:51 AM |
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octoberbride
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Re: Update
Posted by alexlynn7
i'm so sorry from what you're saying it definitely sounds like you've had a chemical pg.
i would call your doc to inform him/her and see if an appointment is necessary. but i don't see how this would interfere with your ttc again. sure, in some cases women have many chemicals and aren't able to progress for some reason. but chemicals are also very common and happen to many normal women who are ttc at one point or another. so i wouldn't take this as a sign of fertility troubles.
for next month!!!
Thanks alex...and thanks for all you help this month as I was obsessing about my symptoms during the 2ww!
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Posted 3/18/07 11:52 AM |
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Secret4Now
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Re: Update
Did you see the faint line right away? You should not look at the test sticks hours later. Speak to your doctor to be sure about what happened this month. Then try to find a way to get through the 2WW without so much worry.
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Porrruss
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Did you ever get a BFP on a pregnancy test? I don't think it can be considered a chemical unless you do.....
ETA: sorry for your stress and many to you.....
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Becky-- I am so sorry. I know you thought this was your month.
For next month.
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Posted 3/18/07 3:36 PM |
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DRMom
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Re: Update
Posted by octoberbride
So, I think I may have had a chemical pg. Yesterday I had some light brown spotting, which turned into red heavier spotting, which has seemed to turn into a very painful AF (albiet a weird, early one...which never happens to me. If anything I am usually a day late as opposed to early...and I have never had cramps THIS bad). Also, once the red heavier spotting happened yesterday, I was unsure what was going on (since it didnt seem like my normal AF) so I tested and it was the faintest line ever. But this morning, it was negative again. So, I think it implanted but for whatever reason, didn't stick. As of this morning, my boobs are finally less sore than they have been in 2 weeks...so I am sure it is my symptoms going away.
We are disappointed, but from the little reading I have done, it is not uncommon for this to happen. And I could see this happening to people and them not even realizing it...bc it just seems like AF. If it weren't for all the symptoms I had this week, I probably would have thought that too.
So my questions - anyone have experience with this? Could this mean something is wrong with me or impact our future months of TTC? My cycles are very regular, and I ovulate every month. Is there a chance of this happening again? Will my next cycle be messed up? Do I start counting CD1 from yesterday, when I started spotting heavy or do I count it from when my period was supposed to come (tomorrow)? Maybe I should just use OPK's everyday next month???
Thanks!!!
1st pregnancies commonly end in m/c. I think the # is somewhere around 50% of pregnancies end before a h/b is seen. I have been there. That being said I would do as a PP said and get a beta hcg just to make sure your body is doing what it should naturally...There is usually no reason to worry about future m/c unless you have other symptoms which it seems you don't. Did you use the same brand test the 2nd time? Also you count from the 1st day of full blood.
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alexlynn7
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Re: Update
Posted by octoberbride
Posted by alexlynn7
i'm so sorry from what you're saying it definitely sounds like you've had a chemical pg.
i would call your doc to inform him/her and see if an appointment is necessary. but i don't see how this would interfere with your ttc again. sure, in some cases women have many chemicals and aren't able to progress for some reason. but chemicals are also very common and happen to many normal women who are ttc at one point or another. so i wouldn't take this as a sign of fertility troubles.
for next month!!!
Thanks alex...and thanks for all you help this month as I was obsessing about my symptoms during the 2ww!
anytime... i completely understand the obsession.
for next month!!!!!
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Posted 3/18/07 6:33 PM |
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CityNYGirl
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Sorry this is happening to you... for next month...
IMO I don't think you had a chemical pregnancy...typical chemical pregnancy does not have any pregnancy symptoms...you said you had symptoms starting at 3DPO (I remember you posted about that) which is impossible....the Fertilized egg fails to implant therefore it does not produce enough HCG for you to experience symptoms....but it does produce some (enough) for a HPT to pick it up...you tested negative at 10DPO and 11DPO and if you were indeed pregnant it would have shown up on your test....I know a little bit about chemicals because my cousin experienced it 3 times before they realized she had immune issues....
Many times women TTC think they are pregnant (trust me, I have been there) and confuse PMS symptoms with pregnancy ones (a lot of times they are the same)...anyway, I would def go to a doctor and get a blood test done together with other tests to make sure...
Good luck!!!!
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Posted 3/19/07 8:44 AM |
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Re: Update
I'm so sorry this happened. I would call the doctor just to ease your own mind and ask any questions you may have.

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Posted 3/19/07 9:07 AM |
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DRMom
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Posted by MrsGreek
Sorry this is happening to you... for next month...
IMO I don't think you had a chemical pregnancy...typical chemical pregnancy does not have any pregnancy symptoms...you said you had symptoms starting at 3DPO (I remember you posted about that) which is impossible....the Fertilized egg fails to implant therefore it does not produce enough HCG for you to experience symptoms....but it does produce some (enough) for a HPT to pick it up...you tested negative at 10DPO and 11DPO and if you were indeed pregnant it would have shown up on your test....I know a little bit about chemicals because my cousin experienced it 3 times before they realized she had immune issues....
Many times women TTC think they are pregnant (trust me, I have been there) and confuse PMS symptoms with pregnancy ones (a lot of times they are the same)...anyway, I would def go to a doctor and get a blood test done together with other tests to make sure...
Good luck!!!!
I think you are wrong Mrs. Greek. There is no HCG produced until implantation. A "chemical" is just another word for an early miscarriage.
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Posted 3/19/07 10:32 AM |
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octoberbride
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Posted by MrsGreek
Sorry this is happening to you... for next month...
IMO I don't think you had a chemical pregnancy...typical chemical pregnancy does not have any pregnancy symptoms...you said you had symptoms starting at 3DPO (I remember you posted about that) which is impossible....the Fertilized egg fails to implant therefore it does not produce enough HCG for you to experience symptoms....but it does produce some (enough) for a HPT to pick it up...you tested negative at 10DPO and 11DPO and if you were indeed pregnant it would have shown up on your test....I know a little bit about chemicals because my cousin experienced it 3 times before they realized she had immune issues....
Many times women TTC think they are pregnant (trust me, I have been there) and confuse PMS symptoms with pregnancy ones (a lot of times they are the same)...anyway, I would def go to a doctor and get a blood test done together with other tests to make sure...
Good luck!!!!
From what I understand, my major unique symptoms (which started 8dpo, not 3dpo) were actually from a large increase in progesterone due to the fertilized egg.
Anyway, I have an appt with my dr tomorrow afternoon just to get checked out and make sure everything looks ok.
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Posted 3/19/07 10:41 AM |
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CityNYGirl
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Melijane, I fully understand your point but this is what it says about chemicals...
A chemical pregnancy is the term given to a pregnancy that ends very early in the first trimester. Chemical pregnancies are confirmed by testing for hCG, the hormones that indicate the presence of a pregnancy. These hormones are typically detected by a urine or blood pregnancy test. However, within weeks, these hCG levels begin to drop rapidly, signifying an end to the pregnancy. As a result, your baby and his amniotic sac cannot be seen on an ultrasound and a miscarriage takes place.
Diagnosis of a Chemical Pregnancy
Chemical pregnancies are primarily diagnosed through pregnancy blood tests. Throughout pregnancy, your health care provider will monitor your hCG levels to ensure that your pregnancy is moving along smoothly. If your health care provider notices a sudden lowering in your hCG levels, this may signal a miscarriage.
In order to diagnose a chemical pregnancy, you will be given a few hCG tests. After completion of a number of hCG tests, you will likely be receive an ultrasound. This ultrasound will be able to pick up any signs of life in the uterus. With a chemical pregnancy, no implantation of an embryo will be seen and no heartbeat will be heard.
Treating Chemical Pregnancy
Because the vast majority of chemical pregnancies go unnoticed, there are relatively few people who undergo treatment for the condition. Instead, most of these women go on to experience healthy, full-term babies in the future.
If you know that you are experiencing a chemical pregnancy it is a good idea to visit with your local heath care provider. It is important that your health care provider keeps an eye on your hCG levels. If you your hCG levels do not continue to decline, it is possible that a miscarriage will not take place, leading to possible health complications. For this reason, frequent monitoring by your health care provider will be necessary for a few months after a chemical pregnancy.
Women who are found to have specific causes for their chemical pregnancies may receive certain treatments in order to increase the chances of pregnancy.
Common treatments include:
fibroid surgery hormones baby aspirin
Hope this helps...
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