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Ugh. I hate playground battles.
And I hate out of control, aggressive children, and inept parents even more 
There is a girl named Avery in Alex's class. She's 3 months older than Alex, and has always been the "darling" of class - wonderful temperment, curious, sweet, adorable, etc. One problem - her parents hate to discipline her, and admit that freely. Until recently they never had a reason to, because in all honesty, she was always the sweetest little kid.
Yeah, well, for the last month or so, she has been having some SERIOUS tantrums. I mean, really, this kid rivals Alex's tantrums, and that's no small feat!  But, instead of ignoring her, or disciplining her, the parents just feed into it, and say ohhhh Avery, what's wrong, do you need a nap? do you need a snack? They coddle her, hold her and do everything but discipline.
Not really my problem until yesterday. Alex was sitting on a stair munching away on a snack when I came to pick her up. Avery wanted to get past her, so she started smacking Alex in the head, and then she proceeded to grab Alex's arm and squeeze as hard as she can. Alex starts crying - I mean real tears, not just the annoying cry. Avery gets even more aggressive, and literally starts attacking Alex. Alex tries to get away from Avery, and Avery follows her, grabbing with both hands as hard as she can, leaving red marks on Alex's arms. I sweep in, pull Avery's hands off of Alex, tell her NO very sternly, and pick up Alex to get her away, and would you believe, that little devil starts following both of us, grabbing Alex's legs while I'm holding her and squeezing so tightly that she leaves red marks on her legs! 
The worst? Avery's father was there on the playground. He didn't intervene until I started removing Avery's hands from Alex, and you know what he did? He picked her up, she started crying hysterically, and he started comforting her - he held her and rocked her and said ohhhh Avery, what's wrong? What can I do for you? Do you need to just cuddle? It's ok, everything is ok.
ARE YOU FREAKIN' KIDDING ME? Your daughter just attacked my daughter, and you're "comforting" her??? From what?! Herself?! Discipline the child!
I've never had such an urge to smack another parent upside the head as I did that moment
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Re: Ugh. I hate playground battles.
Sorry your DD had to endure such wretched behavior.
Oh, that is so freaking annoying. I would have been so livid. I HATE parents who does not discipline their kids. They need to realize that they are not doing the kids any justice by not disciplining them. And, no, I truly do not buy into that little notion about their just babies are too young to be disciplined. Discipline should be enforced at a young age IMO. 
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Re: Ugh. I hate playground battles.
Posted by BellaPaige
Sorry your DD had to endure such wretched behavior.
Oh, that is so freaking annoying. I would have been so livid. I HATE parents who does not discipline their kids. They need to realize that they are not doing the kids any justice by not disciplining them. And, no, I truly do not buy into that little notion about their just babies are too young to be disciplined. Discipline should be enforced at a young age IMO.
I agree. It's a shame because we had talked about trading off days when their school is closed, so we don't all have to miss so much work, but honestly, if this is how the parent's react to aggressive behavior, I'm not leaving Alex in their care with Avery.
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Re: Ugh. I hate playground battles.
Ewww until those parents learn that their sweet little angel has turned aggressive try to keep Alex away from her....that Avery doesn't know who she is messing with!
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Re: Ugh. I hate playground battles.
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Posted by BellaPaige
Sorry your DD had to endure such wretched behavior.
Oh, that is so freaking annoying. I would have been so livid. I HATE parents who does not discipline their kids. They need to realize that they are not doing the kids any justice by not disciplining them. And, no, I truly do not buy into that little notion about their just babies are too young to be disciplined. Discipline should be enforced at a young age IMO.
I agree. It's a shame because we had talked about trading off days when their school is closed, so we don't all have to miss so much work, but honestly, if this is how the parent's react to aggressive behavior, I'm not leaving Alex in their care with Avery.
I would not leave Alex with them as well. Anything should happen to Alex they would not speak the truth. Better be safe than sorry. That little girl needs some serious disciplining and they need to start now not later.
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Re: Ugh. I hate playground battles.
Posted by BellaPaige
Posted by Bxgell2
Posted by BellaPaige
Sorry your DD had to endure such wretched behavior.
Oh, that is so freaking annoying. I would have been so livid. I HATE parents who does not discipline their kids. They need to realize that they are not doing the kids any justice by not disciplining them. And, no, I truly do not buy into that little notion about their just babies are too young to be disciplined. Discipline should be enforced at a young age IMO.
I agree. It's a shame because we had talked about trading off days when their school is closed, so we don't all have to miss so much work, but honestly, if this is how the parent's react to aggressive behavior, I'm not leaving Alex in their care with Avery.
I would not leave Alex with them as well. Anything should happen to Alex they would not speak the truth. Better be safe than sorry. That little girl needs some serious disciplining and they need to start now not later.
Ohhh, I totally agree - DO NOT leave Alex with this family. God knows what could happen! These parents are letting there little girl take over - they are in for serious problems as she gets a little older and is even harder to control.
Please don't leave Alex with them - for her own safety.
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Re: Ugh. I hate playground battles.
Nope. I'd rather use my vacation time to stay home with Alex than leave her with them. First, I don't want her getting hurt. Second, I don't want her to learn that this kind of behavior is acceptable!
It's weird because I've never felt the mother bear instinct more than I did at that moment. I seriously wanted to rip that child's hands off of Alex and push her away and scream at her and her father. I just felt so awful for Alex that this little monster was squeezing her arms and legs so tightly that it was causing Alex pain. Oy....
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Re: Ugh. I hate playground battles.
that's unbelievable.. don't worry what comes around goes around.. they won't be coddling her during a tamtrum in 13 years that's for sure..
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Re: Ugh. I hate playground battles.
Poor Alex! This incident brings to light what a good little girl you have though. She didn't lash out and try to hit Avery back. You must be doing something right as parents
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Re: Ugh. I hate playground battles.
That is absurb! Good job to Alex for not hitting back!
And that kid is going to be in trouble when she gets older if she doens't learn boundaries now. Her little pushing episodes on the playground will turn into having no regard for rules and authority. Good luck to her parents because in 10 years, you can't pick up a rotten 13 year old and say "Do you need a hug?"
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Re: Ugh. I hate playground battles.
Now take a kid like Avery, add fifteen years to her, and just think about what teenage life will be like with her I see parents like this all the time now at school. If this happened at daycare, I would absolutely make a complaint to the teacher. Ugh, little bully!
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Re: Ugh. I hate playground battles.
What a brat!
I would've yelled at the father. You had every right to after his kid attacked yours.
Posts like this gets to me as I'm very protective of my child, but I believe in discipline as well!
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Re: Ugh. I hate playground battles.
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What a brat!
I would've yelled at the father. You had every right to after his kid attacked yours.
Posts like this gets to me as I'm very protective of my child, but I believe in discipline as well!
We did have an exchange later, as we both went into school to pick up their bags. He was carrying Avery as he was walking down the hall, and Alex was standing next to me. He said to Avery, do you want to go down and play with Alex? I said, without even thinking, "Ummm, NO!". He turned bright red, and said, "No no, you're right, I'm holding onto her".
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Re: Ugh. I hate playground battles.
OMG how awful for you little girl  Hope she's ok!
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Re: Ugh. I hate playground battles.
Posted by Bxgell2
Posted by bee
What a brat!
I would've yelled at the father. You had every right to after his kid attacked yours.
Posts like this gets to me as I'm very protective of my child, but I believe in discipline as well!
We did have an exchange later, as we both went into school to pick up their bags. He was carrying Avery as he was walking down the hall, and Alex was standing next to me. He said to Avery, do you want to go down and play with Alex? I said, without even thinking, "Ummm, NO!". He turned bright red, and said, "No no, you're right, I'm holding onto her".
good for you...sometimes I feel like parents don't get how bad their kids really are...I discipline Bella on the spot, wherever we are! DH is opposed to "embarrassing" her but I believe that any type of horrendous behavior that is ignored or coddled even once can breed more of that behavior in the future. This really seems to be "the age" that kids true colors really come out!
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Re: Ugh. I hate playground battles.
That's awful.
Try teaching Alex to yell "Play nicely!". Eventually what it will turn into is Avery will be spending lot of time alone until someone tells her, "If you want to play nicely, you can play."
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Re: Ugh. I hate playground battles.
I cannot believe some parents.
I agree..if this happened at day care I would definitley tell the teachers.
I am so sorry you and Alex went through this
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Posted by mommy2bella
good for you...sometimes I feel like parents don't get how bad their kids really are...I discipline Bella on the spot, wherever we are! DH is opposed to "embarrassing" her but I believe that any type of horrendous behavior that is ignored or coddled even once can breed more of that behavior in the future. This really seems to be "the age" that kids true colors really come out!
That's my philosophy too - I *firmly* believe that if you want to have a genuinely nice, compassionate and thoughtful child, you need to *teach* them to be that way, as early as possible. I'm not harsh, but I certainly intervene the very moment that I observe Alex behaving inappropriately. It's just beyond frustrating that other parents are so lax - it's not only harmful to my daughter, physically, but I hate that she's observing these behaviors in other children - it counteracts everything that I'm trying to teach her!
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Re: Ugh. I hate playground battles.
Posted by nrthshgrl
That's awful.
Try teaching Alex to yell "Play nicely!". Eventually what it will turn into is Avery will be spending lot of time alone until someone tells her, "If you want to play nicely, you can play."
Hmmmm... good idea. And maybe, if I teach her to say "play nicely' in front of parents of children who are NOT playing nicely, it will give them a nice, big hint!
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Re: Ugh. I hate playground battles.
Little beast How is alex today?
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| Posted 7/3/07 11:51 AM |
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Re: Ugh. I hate playground battles.
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good for you...sometimes I feel like parents don't get how bad their kids really are...I discipline Bella on the spot, wherever we are! DH is opposed to "embarrassing" her but I believe that any type of horrendous behavior that is ignored or coddled even once can breed more of that behavior in the future. This really seems to be "the age" that kids true colors really come out!
That's my philosophy too - I *firmly* believe that if you want to have a genuinely nice, compassionate and thoughtful child, you need to *teach* them to be that way, as early as possible. I'm not harsh, but I certainly intervene the very moment that I observe Alex behaving inappropriately. It's just beyond frustrating that other parents are so lax - it's not only harmful to my daughter, physically, but I hate that she's observing these behaviors in other children - it counteracts everything that I'm trying to teach her!
I know, and people STILL have that notion of not making a "public" scene If I coddle this behavior the future is a MUCH bigger scene....
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OMG - I would have gone ballistic!!!! That is so wrong - and her parents should be beaten severely.... dont they know they are handicapping their child for life by not disciplining her????
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Re: Ugh. I hate playground battles.
That poor child- she is so desperate for some boundries she is doing anything and everything to get attention. I feel so badly that she has such horrible parents.
Poor Alex for getting the brunt of the problem that day
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Re: Ugh. I hate playground battles.
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Posted by nrthshgrl
That's awful.
Try teaching Alex to yell "Play nicely!". Eventually what it will turn into is Avery will be spending lot of time alone until someone tells her, "If you want to play nicely, you can play."
Hmmmm... good idea. And maybe, if I teach her to say "play nicely' in front of parents of children who are NOT playing nicely, it will give them a nice, big hint!
Sounds like a good idea. Good for Alex for behaving so well and not hitting back.
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Posted by nrthshgrl
That's awful.
Try teaching Alex to yell "Play nicely!". Eventually what it will turn into is Avery will be spending lot of time alone until someone tells her, "If you want to play nicely, you can play."
Hmmmm... good idea. And maybe, if I teach her to say "play nicely' in front of parents of children who are NOT playing nicely, it will give them a nice, big hint!
Sounds like a good idea. Good for Alex for behaving so well and not hitting back.
Yes I agree, good for Alex. I'd be so pizzed if I were you!!!!! Sounds like you handled yourself very well!
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