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DaniJude
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Thank you Pope Francis!
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Francis’ annulment changes stress prompt decisions, power of local bishops
Joshua J. McElwee | Sep. 8, 2015
VATICAN CITY -- Pope Francis has substantially and significantly altered the process for those seeking annulments of marriages in the Catholic church, eliminating sometimes lengthy and redundant judicial procedures and empowering local bishops to make judgments on their own in “particularly evident” cases.
The changes -- announced at the Vatican Tuesday with release of two formal documents signed by the pope known as motu proprios -- reflect a decided and new shift in delegating power from the church’s central command to local prelates around the world.
They also may represent the most public difference yet between Francis and his predecessors John Paul II and Benedict XVI, who had widely sought to limit the number of annulments in fear of creating a sort of back-door divorce process for Catholics.
In a short introduction to the new changes, Francis explains that he wanted to balance the church’s timeless worry to provide for the salvation of souls with “the enormous number of faithful that … too often are detached from the juridical structures of the Church at the cause of physical or moral distance.”
“In total harmony with these desires, I have decided to give with this Motu proprio arrangements that do not favor the nullifying of marriages but the promptness of the processes,” states Francis, so that “the heart of the faithful that wait for the clarification of their state may not be oppressed for a long time by the darkness of doubt.”
An annulment in the Catholic church is a decree from a church tribunal that a marriage between two persons was invalidly contracted. Such a decree is often sought by persons who are seeking to celebrate a different marriage.
The changes announced by Francis modify the procedures for obtaining annulments in two key ways: Eliminating a sometimes lengthy process requiring a second judgment on all annulment decisions and allowing local bishops a so-called “shorter” process to personally judge on cases considered particularly straightforward.
The changes also, in a new take on a since-abandoned practice, allow any first appeals of annulment decisions to be made at the local level instead of at the Vatican. Appeals from smaller dioceses will now be made at metropolitan archdioceses, which are the archdioceses that are normally closest to the diocese in question.
In his introductory letter for the decree altering the processes for the Latin-rite church -- the church community most recognizable throughout the world as Roman Catholic --the pontiff states that he recognizes the new procedures, especially those allowing decisions by bishops, might worry those concerned about Catholic teaching on the indissolubility of marriage.
But the pope says he wanted to offer the new process to bishops so that it can “be applied in cases in which the accused nullity of the marriage is sustained by arguments particularly evident.”
“It has not escaped me how an abbreviated judgment might put at risk the principle of indissolubility of marriage,” the pope continues. “Indeed, for this I wanted that in this process the judge would be composed of the bishop, that in the strength of his pastoral office is, with Peter, the best guarantee of Catholic unity in the faith and discipline.”
The Vatican announced the changes Tuesday by releasing the two official documents, given the Latin names of Mitis Iudex Dominus Iesus ("The Meek Judge, The Lord Jesus") and Mitis et misericors Iesus ("The Meek and Merciful Jesus").
The first document addresses and modifies the annulment procedure for the Latin-rite Code of Canon Law; the second for the canons governing the Eastern-rite Catholic churches. Both texts are currently available only in Latin and Italian.
The changes, signed by Francis on Aug. 15, are to go into effect Dec. 8, the opening day of the upcoming Jubilee Holy Year for Mercy and the 50th anniversary of the closing of the Second Vatican Council.
Francis’ decree for the Latin rite churches effectively updates and changes canons 1679-1691 in the church’s Code of Canon Law. The pope also attached to that decree 20 new “procedural rules” for bishops dealing with annulment cases, saying he wanted to offer them as “other instruments” for tools in their work on those matters.
Among other significant changes in the decrees: Francis also mandates that annulment procedures be made free of charge around the world, and also asks that bishops create some sort of structure in their dioceses that can guide and help separated Catholics considering divorce and/or annulment.
In his attached “procedural rules,” Francis gives examples of when a bishop might be able to decide an annulment on his own authority without using the normal process of the church tribunal.
Included in those examples: When there was a clear lacking of faith on the part of one of the persons consenting to the marriage, when one person was in another undisclosed relationship at the time of marriage, or when one party procured an abortion -- indicating that they were not open to the procreation of life.
Francis states in his preface to the Latin-rite decree that he hopes bishops will be close to the annulment processes in their dioceses so that they can offer “a sign of conversion of the ecclesiastical structures, and do not leave the judicial function in matrimonial matters completely delegated to the offices of the curia.”
The pontiff also states that he is allowing appeals of annulment decisions to be made to the metropolitan archdioceses as “a distinctive sign of the synodality of the Church.”
Announcement of the changes of the annulment procedures comes less than a month before the opening of a special global meeting of Catholic bishops, known as a synod, at the Vatican Oct. 4-25.
Francis has called two back-to-back synods for 2014 and 2015, to focus on issues facing families in contemporary society. The discussions have centered partly on the Catholic church’s pastoral practice towards those who have divorced and remarried without first obtaining annulments, who are currently prohibited from taking communion in the church.
Reform of the annulment process also comes with unusual speed for the Vatican, as the pope only first appointed a commission to study the matter in August 2014.
Francis states in his preface to the Latin-rite decree that he is partly making the changes to the annulment process on the suggestion of the bishops at the 2014 synod, who he says “requested more rapid and accessible processes.”
The pontiff’s decision to remove the until-now necessary, and sometimes lengthy, second judgment on all annulment decisions echoes an ability the U.S. Catholic bishops had from 1970-83, when they were allowed by the Vatican to dispense that obligation for certain cases.
That ability -- which was sharply criticized by some at the Vatican who thought the U.S. bishops were applying the dispensation too liberally -- was removed with the publication of the 1983 edition of the Code of Canon Law.
The number of annulment procedures initiated in the U.S. has dropped sharply in recent decades. According to the Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate (CARA) at Georgetown University, the processes initiated in the U.S. went from 60,691 in 1984 to 23,302 in 2014.
At a Vatican press conference announcing the annulment changes Tuesday, one church prelate said they represented the most substantial changes to the church's marriage law in centuries.
Msgr. Pio Vito Pinto, dean of the Vatican's highest appellate court, said they are probably the biggest changes to the church's marriage law since the pontificate of Pope Benedict XIV, who led the Catholic church from 1740-1758.
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I have rarely shared the deeper sentiments behind my divorce and specific details of that ordeal but today I feel compelled to do so a little because of this news. I really want to rejoice! I don't know about anyone else but, for me, this news brought tears to my eyes and a renewed sense of hope and belief in my faith. I was born Catholic, I had hoped to die Catholic. When I was married ten years ago, I believed the person I was marrying to be a certain way. He told me so. Those things turned out to be lies - a lot of lies. The behaviors then exhibited by my then-spouse showed such a lack of faith, morality, etc. We had mutually agreed upon things like having a certain amount of children, among other things - those things he said turned out to not be truthful.
Looking back, I find it nearly impossible to sift through everything he told me and find any truth at all, actually. Trying to find a truthful statement over our ten years is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. It breaks my heart even now. It was so painful for myself and my family. I went "down the rabbit hole" for a long time - so depressed at my reality. I hated myself and my behavior for a while there. Being that it was so important for me to marry in the church -- knowing that it got so bad for me that, for my own health and well being, I had to divorce made me feel "abandoned" by my faith. Like they had turned their back on me in many ways. Being divorced I can no longer remarry in the Catholic church -- so my quest for obtaining the life I had ORIGINALLY set out to have became next to impossible. Being divorced I could no longer receive Holy Communion when I attend Mass with my loved ones. Being divorced I could no longer be buried in a Catholic cemetery. Many of these things really started to weigh heavily on me. The overwhelming cost of even trying to OBTAIN an annulment, before, was enough to put many people off from even attempting it. Because, in essence, you could lay out all that money and waste all that time and have it be rejected. Most of the requests were rejected. Now, the cost is free aside from a minimal administrative fee. The process is much faster, and the possible outcome is much more reliable.
There are many things about the Catholic church I don't agree with -- Their feelings on people who are gay are probably the number one thing. But, for me, I feel as though a lot of that interpretation stuff is left to the individual person. This is my faith, I was born this, my family is this way and I'll make up my own mind about how I feel about others -- and I feel very strongly in that Jesus is/was an open, loving, and accepting person. The Jesus that I believe in would love everyone, no matter what. And believe in the good in all people who are good. So, I don't get worked up about the "not eating meat on Friday's during Lent" and the whole gay marriage and gay acceptance thing. For me, I think there are a lot of changes that need to be made and I feel like this -- and this new Pope -- are a BIG step in the right direction for my faith.
And a step that is monumental. This change that he made, it is the biggest change in over 300 years! I mean, that's huge. It isn't something I ever thought I'd see in my lifetime! I remember being a little girl and just wanting to be an alter "boy" -- I wanted to be an attendant during Mass. But I couldn't because I was a girl. That was not allowed then. That changed, at some point, while I was growing up. I thought, OK, progress. But that was small progress -- this is HUGE progress.
I think, if this is a sign of things to come then we are moving in a great direction.
I really wish I could meet the Pope now so I could tell him how much I appreciate his kindness and how he seems to be so empathetic. I know it is probably hard to meet him but wishful thinking
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Thank you Pope Francis!
I can't say it as elegantly as you did but I share your sentiments!
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Mill188
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Re: Thank you Pope Francis!
I actually have mixed emotions about this.
As an adult (albeit one who has never been divorced), I applaud the Pope's efforts to streamline what everyone believes to be a corrupt, long and tedious process.
The rules about what a divorced Catholic can and can't do have been softened over the years. A divorced Catholic who has not remarried is still a Catholic in "good standing" and has no prohibitions about what they can and cannot do. About the only thing a divorced Catholic who has remarried cannot do is receive Eucharist or be a godparent. You can be buried in a Catholic cemetery and have a full funeral mass regardless of your status.
I do not agree with any of prohibitions. I believe in a loving and forgiving God. I do not think if you are divorced and remarried you should be denied any of God's grace or the sacraments (with the exception of another marriage in the Church).
HOWEVER, as an adult child of parents who were annulled and as a practicing Catholic (and a product of Catholic school), I find it extremely hypocritical. According to the Church, my parents' marriage was not a sacramental, valid marriage. Their annulment was very easy to obtain and was granted without question - 20 years AFTER they divorced when my father wanted to remarry for the third time. This happened when my siblings and I were adults. My parents were married for 15 years before they divorced.
I do not believe annulments should be any easier to obtain nor do I think the process should be streamlined or simplified especially where children are involved.
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DaniJude
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Re: Thank you Pope Francis!
I didn't know i also couldn't be a godparent!!!
That's awful!!! OMG I didn't think it could get worse!
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Re: Thank you Pope Francis!
This could get ugly real fast. IMHO.
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Posted 9/9/15 2:34 PM |
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Thank you Pope Francis!
School me a bit. I'm not Catholic.
Does it say all this stuff in the bible? About not divorcing but if you do, you have to sit out on things?
If it's not... Then where does this all come from? These rules, I mean. I always hear "only God can judge" and that sounds great, but ...it never sounds like that plays out in real life. Is it the church? And if so, why are they the authority and not the bible?
Lots of little questions, not all have to be answered. Just would like a general answer.
To the OP, I'm glad you found peace with this coming out.
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Posted 9/9/15 2:35 PM |
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Re: Thank you Pope Francis!
Posted by DaniJude
I didn't know i also couldn't be a godparent!!!
That's awful!!! OMG I didn't think it could get worse!
Maybe it depends on the church? I think I read here or maybe elsewhere that it depends on the specific church you attend. Or maybe that was to baptize if you weren't practicing or part of a certain church. I can't recall. Either way, I would look into it. And not give up hope.
Like I said, I'm not catholic but this new Pope seems very progressive and it seems it's going over well.
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Mill188
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Re: Thank you Pope Francis!
You can serve as a "witness" to a baptism. Much like any non-Catholic. Only one godparent must be Catholic.
Again, a divorced Catholic can be a godparent. A divorced Catholic who has remarried without an annulment cannot.
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Posted 9/9/15 2:43 PM |
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Mill188
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Re: Thank you Pope Francis!
Posted by ineedababynow
This could get ugly real fast. IMHO.
Doesn't need to get ugly. I respect DaniJude's position and if she has some peace from the Pope's directive, that's great.
As an adult child of annulled parents, I have a hard time with making an annulment easier to obtain.
If my parents' marriage never existed, how could I and my siblings be here and all of us are pretty staunch practicing Catholics. I have an issue reconciling that in my own head.
That being said, I do really like Pope Francis.
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Thank you Pope Francis!
Mill,
I know you know more than I would. I did a quick Google to kind of read up on it and maybe I interpreted your statement wrong but are you saying that annulments are like the church acting like the marriage never existed? Because one of these bullet points says the opposite.
https://www.archbalt.org/about-us/marriage-tribunal/upload/Doc_12_myths_about_marriage_annulments_in_the_Catholic_Church.pdf
I may have incorrectly interpreted what you said though. And I know you know way more than I do about Catholicism. :)
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Re: Thank you Pope Francis!
I have a question. How does the church know you got a divorce?
Lets say you wanted to be a Godparent or get buried in a Catholic cemetery. How would they know you got divorced and remarried?
Do they really look this stuff up with the state?
I dont' recall them doing any investigation into me or my sister when we were Godparents for each other's children. We just named each other as Godparents- no questions asked. How would they know if I was divorced and remarried?
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Mill188
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Re: Thank you Pope Francis!
It used to be that it was as if the marriage never existed.
Now, it has been changed so that we are not the product of a "sacramental" marriage.
As a practicing Catholic, I struggle with that. It may not have been a good marriage (and trust me, my parents are better off divorced), but to say God was not present when they took their vows (which is the way the priest explained it to my siblings and I when we were questioned during the annulment proceedings), is BS. My siblings and I all feel the same about it - it is actually hurtful to the 3 of us.
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DaniJude
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Re: Thank you Pope Francis!
Posted by ineedababynow
This could get ugly real fast. IMHO.
Oh stop! It certainly shouldn't.
If someone doesn't think I deserve to be able to get remarried in the church that's totally fine. It doesn't bother me. Believe me, no one can condemn me more than I condemn myself!! If someone is happy for me then cool beans. I would never be offended.
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DaniJude
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Re: Thank you Pope Francis!
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
School me a bit. I'm not Catholic.
Does it say all this stuff in the bible? About not divorcing but if you do, you have to sit out on things?
If it's not... Then where does this all come from? These rules, I mean. I always hear "only God can judge" and that sounds great, but ...it never sounds like that plays out in real life. Is it the church? And if so, why are they the authority and not the bible?
Lots of little questions, not all have to be answered. Just would like a general answer.
To the OP, I'm glad you found peace with this coming out.
See like that's the thing --- a lot of this shit isn't in the bible. And then a lot of what IS in the bible is open to interpretation. And that's a matter of how someone perceives what they read. A lot of the "rules" that came about as time went on are man made! So that's why it can be so frustrating. Kwim??
That and before, if you had the money, the annulment was usually granted no problem :-/
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DaniJude
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Re: Thank you Pope Francis!
Nell -- for me the biggest issue is remarrying in the church and then not being considered as living in sin if I am a divorced catholic who is remarried outside the church.
Meaning since I'm divorced after having been married in the church and I remarry at say, a vineyard, the church sees it as me cheating on my first husband for the rest of my life 
So this way, if it is annulled I'm not considered a sinner who is going to hell and I can still be godmother to my sisters children and othe loved ones' kids... And the way they check the whole marriage thing is that in the Catholic Church it was recorded when I was married --- on the same record as my baptism, communion, and confirmation. So if I went to go get married again they would see it and probably burn me at the stake 
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NervousNell
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Posted by DaniJude
Nell -- for me the biggest issue is remarrying in the church and then not being considered as living in sin if I am a divorced catholic who is remarried outside the church.
Meaning since I'm divorced after having been married in the church and I remarry at say, a vineyard, the church sees it as me cheating on my first husband for the rest of my life 
So this way, if it is annulled I'm not considered a sinner who is going to hell and I can still be godmother to my sisters children and othe loved ones' kids... And the way they check the whole marriage thing is that in the Catholic Church it was recorded when I was married --- on the same record as my baptism, communion, and confirmation. So if I went to go get married again they would see it and probably burn me at the stake  \
Yes I totally get that part. I'm Catholic as well so I know the rules about divorce, or not getting married in a church at all, etc.
I was curious as to how they would know you were divorced if you went for something less significant than a wedding- let's say to be a Godparent.
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DaniJude
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Re: Thank you Pope Francis!
They can request that form to be seen.
When my son was christened they didn't. They just went on the "honor system" bc my sister was the godmother and teaches religious instruction lol. But usually they ask. And they use that form detailing your sacraments to check. Hmm I guess they wouldn't have knowledge of me being divorced unless I said so.
Mums the word 
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Thank you Pope Francis!
As a Jew, this is fascinating to me. From my point of view as a divorcee, it does seem like a great step in the right direction.
In comparison, I got a "get" or a Jewish Divorce from my first marriage but obviously a different process. The essential part of the get is that the husband agrees to the wife that "you are hereby permitted to all men" and it means that the laws of adultery no longer apply. The get also returns all legal rights that a husband holds in regard to his wife (because technically, the man owns the woman in a Jewish marriage). In the same way that you couldn't get married in a Catholic Church without an annulment, I couldn't "technically" be remarried in the Jewish religion without one (though apparently my rabbi didn't care if I had one or not).
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Posted by DaniJude
Nell -- for me the biggest issue is remarrying in the church and then not being considered as living in sin if I am a divorced catholic who is remarried outside the church.
Meaning since I'm divorced after having been married in the church and I remarry at say, a vineyard, the church sees it as me cheating on my first husband for the rest of my life 
So this way, if it is annulled I'm not considered a sinner who is going to hell and I can still be godmother to my sisters children and othe loved ones' kids... And the way they check the whole marriage thing is that in the Catholic Church it was recorded when I was married --- on the same record as my baptism, communion, and confirmation. So if I went to go get married again they would see it and probably burn me at the stake 
From what I understand, if your spouse is unfaithful to you, that is the only reason God will allow a divorce. I read about this after my divorce. Jesus said I tell you anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness and marries another woman commits adultery. Of course this applies both ways. I don't know your reasons for divorcing your husband, but in the case of fidelity you should be ok. In all other cases, abuse, mental or physical...it should be on a case by case by the church.
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Thank you Pope Francis!
I really don' want to get in a religious debate but the whole thing is absolute BS. I am a Catholic and divorced and remarried and have no intention of getting an annulment so I can be a "true Catholic". I can murder someone and get forgiven but I can't leave a marriage that wasn't working without jumping through hoops and paying a fee. It's BS. Just because I didn't stay in a marriage does not mean my morals are any different or my faith is any different and I do not feel I should need to proof that to the Church with a piece of paper.
And you can be a godparent. I am one and was never asked about my marriage and this was a very conservative church my nephew was baptized in. My child was also baptized even though I am in an "unholy" union with my husband.
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Posted by NervousNell
Posted by DaniJude
Nell -- for me the biggest issue is remarrying in the church and then not being considered as living in sin if I am a divorced catholic who is remarried outside the church.
Meaning since I'm divorced after having been married in the church and I remarry at say, a vineyard, the church sees it as me cheating on my first husband for the rest of my life 
So this way, if it is annulled I'm not considered a sinner who is going to hell and I can still be godmother to my sisters children and othe loved ones' kids... And the way they check the whole marriage thing is that in the Catholic Church it was recorded when I was married --- on the same record as my baptism, communion, and confirmation. So if I went to go get married again they would see it and probably burn me at the stake  \
Yes I totally get that part. I'm Catholic as well so I know the rules about divorce, or not getting married in a church at all, etc.
I was curious as to how they would know you were divorced if you went for something less significant than a wedding- let's say to be a Godparent.
They can request certain paperwork and they can look it up. To be honest I think most don't. It is just more work for them. Show them your birthcertificate and you are good to go.
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I'm happy to hear this too though you are wrong about not being able to be buried in a catholic cemetery. My mother was divorced before she married my dad (they were not married in the church and she never received an annulment) and is buried in a catholic cemetery.
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Posted 9/9/15 5:33 PM |
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Re: Thank you Pope Francis!
Posted by DaniJude
I didn't know i also couldn't be a godparent!!!
That's awful!!! OMG I didn't think it could get worse!
That is really, truly going to depend upon the church. It's in the Catholic teaching (see the link below) that a person who was married in the Catholic church, divorced, AND then remarried outside of the church cannot be a godparent. However, we all know some churches bend the rules...
I know plenty of people who are godparents, and they have never been asked to provide anything about their marriage. I'm going to be a godmother for the first time, and I was asked to provide proof that I was married in a Roman Catholic church; but I have literally never heard of anyone else even asked. I've heard of people not asked for proof of anything...not even baptism.
Just wanted to add...I think Pope Francis is really moving in the right direction...I hope whoever eventually follows him keeps it going. We could see some serious changes in our lifetimes.
This link may help provide more clarity: Information on Divorced Catholics
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Re: Thank you Pope Francis!
Posted by oldtimerocknroll
Posted by DaniJude
I didn't know i also couldn't be a godparent!!!
That's awful!!! OMG I didn't think it could get worse!
That is really, truly going to depend upon the church. It's in the Catholic teaching (see the link below) that a person who was married in the Catholic church, divorced, AND then remarried outside of the church cannot be a godparent. However, we all know some churches bend the rules...
I know plenty of people who are godparents, and they have never been asked to provide anything about their marriage. I'm going to be a godmother for the first time, and I was asked to provide proof that I was married in a Roman Catholic church; but I have literally never heard of anyone else even asked. I've heard of people not asked for proof of anything...not even baptism.
Just wanted to add...I think Pope Francis is really moving in the right direction...I hope whoever eventually follows him keeps it going. We could see some serious changes in our lifetimes.
This link may help provide more clarity: Information on Divorced Catholics
Yes, certain churches won't even inquire and you could be a godparent still.
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Re: Thank you Pope Francis!
Posted by NervousNell
I have a question. How does the church know you got a divorce?
Lets say you wanted to be a Godparent or get buried in a Catholic cemetery. How would they know you got divorced and remarried?
Do they really look this stuff up with the state?
I dont' recall them doing any investigation into me or my sister when we were Godparents for each other's children. We just named each other as Godparents- no questions asked. How would they know if I was divorced and remarried?
Just like your baptism, communion & confirmation are recorded, so is your marriage. When you go for an annulment, your "home" church gets notified and it goes in the book. I use to work in a church rectory and I remember doing this every now and again. I'm trying to remember if when a divorce happened if we were notified, but I can't recall. We had in the safe every baptism book, confirmation book and communion book that was ever done since the church was opened. It's actually pretty awesome to see.
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