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School bus driver gets into fight with student...

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EckoRed81504
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School bus driver gets into fight with student...

This is disturbing. It's 10 minutes long but my jaw was dropped the whole time...

I can't believe there are people like this that drive a school bus

Posted 11/28/08 10:27 PM
 
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Re: School bus driver gets into fight with student...

I can't watch that. Those teenagers are disgusting. I would have lost my cool 2 minutes into the situation..nasty kids Chat Icon

ETA: okay, now I watched that whole thing. I had better not be the only one to see the students at fault & causing the entire blowup

Message edited 11/28/2008 10:36:13 PM.

Posted 11/28/08 10:31 PM
 

headoverheels
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Re: School bus driver gets into fight with student...

what the... ?!

i cannot believe that the bus driver put her hands on that girl, more than once, even KNOWING that there was a video camera recording everything.

she has to be psychotic.

and what was with the girl defending her mom (the bus driver) - from what i could see the girl was trying to get her phone and the driver grabbed her by the hair!

that is seriously F'd up.

ETA: why didn't the bus driver just let her off the bus? and why did she drop/throw the girl's phone? i think that caused a lot more trouble than the girl just talking on her phone and refusing to be quiet.

Message edited 11/28/2008 10:47:32 PM.

Posted 11/28/08 10:43 PM
 

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Re: School bus driver gets into fight with student...

that bus driver had NO right doing what she did...I hope she was fired immediately Chat Icon

Posted 11/28/08 10:47 PM
 

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Re: School bus driver gets into fight with student...

Posted by Mikismom

that bus driver had NO right doing what she did...I hope she was fired immediately Chat Icon



nope! the bus driver and her daughter went through a "diversion" program, neither had charges filed against her and i *believe* she kept her job. the girl, sammy taylor, is apparently the only one who was charged (with a misdemeanor).

Posted 11/28/08 10:49 PM
 

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Re: School bus driver gets into fight with student...

here is the story:

Fight Between Student & Bus Driver (Long Version)
10:17
Update!!!

Video released Thursday from a camera mounted inside a Higley Unified School District bus shows the bus driver engaging in a physical confrontation with a teenage girl.

The incident h Update!!!

Video released Thursday from a camera mounted inside a Higley Unified School District bus shows the bus driver engaging in a physical confrontation with a teenage girl.

The incident happened February 15, when 54-year-old Kim Sullivan was driving students home from Williams Field High School in Gilbert.

The video shows Sullivan stopping the bus after repeatedly warning 15-year-old Samantha Taylor to sit back in her seat and stop touching the boy in front of her.

After stopping the bus, Sullivan walked back toward Taylor's seat and asked her why she was on the bus, then told her to find another way to get to and from school.

Taylor tried to exit the bus; Sullivan tried to push her back into her seat.

Taylor repeatedly yelled at Sullivan to "stop touching me" and called her mother on her cell phone.

Sullivan said she was calling police.

The altercation escalated when Taylor handed Sullivan her phone to speak with her mother, and Sullivan tossed the phone aside.

Taylor then began screaming at Sullivan, "You punched me!" though the alleged blow was not visible on the video.

Another student trying to exit the bus, 14-year-old Cassandra Schlosser, told her mother on her cell phone that the bus driver was "like about to get in a fistfight with Sammy."

About a minute later, the confrontation turned into a full-blown physical fight when Taylor moved forward to grab her phone and Sullivan tried to push her back.

The laughs and jeers of the other students on the bus turned to gasps of shock that faded to silence as Taylor and Sullivan continued to grapple with each other. Though the two moved forward and out of range of the camera's lens, the sound of a blow being struck is clearly heard on the video.

The two moved back into view of the camera with Sullivan pulling Taylor's hair. At the same moment, Sullivan's 16-year-old daughter came running forward, screaming at Taylor to get off her mother. She grabbed two handfuls of Taylor's hair and tried to pull the girl off Sullivan.

She then told Sullivan to get off of Taylor, but continued to pull Taylor's hair in her attempts to wrestle Taylor away from her mother.

Schlosser then joined the melee, yelling at the Sullivan to get off of Taylor, a few seconds before a male student came forward and knocked Sullivan's daughter away from Taylor.

The fight continued for about another minute, ending when a tearful Taylor joined the rest of the students as they exited the bus through an emergency exit door on the side of the vehicle.

Sullivan, also in tears, then radioed her dispatcher, asking, "Where is my help that I asked for?"

A school district official told the East Valley Tribune that a school supervisor was on the way to the bus but was stuck in traffic. The official said one student called police while the incident unfolded, but the students had left the bus by the time officers arrived.

When a female student approached Sullivan after the brawl to ask if she was OK, Sullivan responded, "Yes... it's all on the tape."

On Friday, the Gilbert Police Department concluded their investigation. The police report will be forwarded to the Maricopa County Attorney's office requesting the following charged to be filed: Kim Sullivan with aggravated assault (intentional touching of a child 15 and under) and disorderly conduct; Taylor with aggravated assault and disorderly conduct; and Schlosser and Erin Sullivan with disorderly conduct.

The school district also conducted an administrative investigation in conjunction with police.

On Wednesday, the district sent a letter home to parents informing them of the incident, the Tribune reported.

Taylor, Schlosser and Sullivan's daughter were suspended, and Sullivan was placed on paid leave, according to the Tribune.

Sullivan has worked as a bus driver for the district since last June and has driven buses elsewhere before, the Tribune reported. The Higley School District is not aware of any complaints against the driver, a district official told the newspaper
Read all three of these to get a better ideal

Posted 11/28/08 10:51 PM
 

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Re: School bus driver gets into fight with student...

here is a link of where the student knows and admits she was wrong

Posted 11/28/08 10:57 PM
 

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Re: School bus driver gets into fight with student...

Chat Icon i dont think bus drivers are just allowed to let kids off mid stop, so the girl would have to sit back down....

Posted 11/28/08 11:10 PM
 

mosa77
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Re: School bus driver gets into fight with student...

im sorry but i dont see how the bus driver was at fault?? she was defending herself all she did was push the teen away from where the bus controls and steering wheel is... the teen was obnoxious and out of control the bus driver immediatly called for backup the girl repeatedly got up in the bus drivers face and all the driver did was push her away in my opinion the teenager provoked the entire situation. and if she would have let her off the bus and something happened to her then she would have taken the blame for that too in my opinion that teenager needs to learn some respect!

Posted 11/28/08 11:13 PM
 

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Re: School bus driver gets into fight with student...

I also have to *somewhat* take the side of the bus driver here.

The bus driver is responsible for those kids. They are NOT allowed off at a random stop.

Also, they are not allowed by the driver's seat where all the controls for the bus are.

The student was breaking the rules that are there to protect ALL the students by being in that area. What if she hit the gear shift or something??

May I also add that that whole "teachers/adults are not ALLOWED to put their hands on a student" is false. Is it recommended that they don't - of course- but for their OWN protection.

In NYS:

1. A parent, guardian or other person entrusted with the care and supervision of a person under the age of twenty-one or an incompetent person, and a teacher or other person entrusted with the care and supervision of a person under the age of twenty-one for a special purpose, may use physical force, but not deadly physical force, upon such person when and to the extent that he reasonably believes it necessary to maintain discipline or to promote the welfare of such person.

And also, in this case:

3. A person responsible for the maintenance of order in a common carrier of passengers, or a person acting under his direction, may use physical force when and to the extent that he reasonably believes it necessary to maintain order (and from the looks of it, there WAS NO ORDER on that bus!), but he may use deadly physical force only when he reasonably believes it necessary to prevent death or serious physical injury.

If a student is acting out and, like in this case, causing a dangerous situation for other students, the bus driver has every right to physically restrain her or remove her from the area.

Message edited 11/28/2008 11:47:59 PM.

Posted 11/28/08 11:47 PM
 

RoleModel
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Re: School bus driver gets into fight with student...

Posted by kellsbells7
In NYS:



It happened in Phoenix. Wonder if any of them had to deal with Joe Arpaio.

Posted 11/29/08 12:19 AM
 

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Re: School bus driver gets into fight with student...

Posted by RoleModel

Posted by kellsbells7
In NYS:



It happened in Phoenix. Wonder if any of them had to deal with Joe Arpaio.




DH grew up in AZ and the bus driver used to hit them with a rubber hose.

Posted 11/29/08 2:05 PM
 
 

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