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LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

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Lichi
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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

Posted by dandr10199
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I guess the island doesn't heal everyone all of the time.Chat Icon

I bet when Linus moved the Island, things reversed. Instead of healing, everyone got sick. Just a thought

ETA: Jeremy Betham was a philosopher that wrote about time travel. I bet lock uses the time travel thing at the orchid station to get off the island and is alias is...Jeremy Betham, the "inventor of time travel".

It makes sense that John would use that name as an alias... but I don't think that Ben "moved" the island... I think it time traveled as well as Locke would have to get off the island.

Posted 5/30/08 12:30 PM
 
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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

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I'm hoping that they just *think* he's dead - like they're assuming he's dead because he was on the boat but maybe he made it back to the island. If they haven't had contact with anyone on the island, they would still think he's dead. Probably just wishful thinking though Chat Icon I really like Jin.



That would be nice, but that was a mighty explosion (although Jin did make it to top deck before it exploded so if he could somehow get afloat he could techincally survive (although the island did disappear, so that's a lot of floating/keeping alive after being in an explosion/sinking hot metal boat!) ...



The thing is, in that same flash forward episode Sun gives birth and we think that Jin is running to make it to the hospital in time for the delivery (buying that huge panda etc), but he was delivering it to some head honcho's daughter. And he's not married in that flash forward I believe. So maybe he did survive but lost his memory or something.

Also, remember that there's some time travel involved. When Jack's dad saw Michael, he told him "you can go now"... maybe there was some time travel involved there and they were saved??? Don't know, but I hope Jin is still alive.

Also, that scene with Des and Penny was just Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 5/30/08 12:50 PM
 

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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

Posted by MrsQ-in2007

Posted by Elbee

Posted by BlondeJD


I'm hoping that they just *think* he's dead - like they're assuming he's dead because he was on the boat but maybe he made it back to the island. If they haven't had contact with anyone on the island, they would still think he's dead. Probably just wishful thinking though Chat Icon I really like Jin.



That would be nice, but that was a mighty explosion (although Jin did make it to top deck before it exploded so if he could somehow get afloat he could techincally survive (although the island did disappear, so that's a lot of floating/keeping alive after being in an explosion/sinking hot metal boat!) ...



The thing is, in that same flash forward episode Sun gives birth and we think that Jin is running to make it to the hospital in time for the delivery (buying that huge panda etc), but he was delivering it to some head honcho's daughter. And he's not married in that flash forward I believe. So maybe he did survive but lost his memory or something.

Also, remember that there's some time travel involved. When Jack's dad saw Michael, he told him "you can go now"... maybe there was some time travel involved there and they were saved??? Don't know, but I hope Jin is still alive.

Also, that scene with Des and Penny was just Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



The scene with Jin was a flashBACK and the scene with Sun was a flashFORWARD.

Posted 5/30/08 12:57 PM
 

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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

Posted by MrsQ-in2007

The thing is, in that same flash forward episode Sun gives birth and we think that Jin is running to make it to the hospital in time for the delivery (buying that huge panda etc), but he was delivering it to some head honcho's daughter. And he's not married in that flash forward I believe. So maybe he did survive but lost his memory or something.

Also, remember that there's some time travel involved. When Jack's dad saw Michael, he told him "you can go now"... maybe there was some time travel involved there and they were saved??? Don't know, but I hope Jin is still alive.

Also, that scene with Des and Penny was just Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



That was a mix of a flash forward & a flash back. The flash forward was Sun giving birth. The flash back was for Jim, running an errand for Sun's father. I would say Jin is dead. The ship exploded & the scene right before it did he was on deck. My guess is any freighter people are dead. Swimming/floating back to the island is possible since they did back it in a small boat there & back, but I'm going to say the explosion makes it unlikely. That means Michael (who was in the hold) & Jin are dead.

Also to answer - how did Desmond get on the helicopter. When the helicopter landed to refuel, he was trying to stop them, screaming there is a bomb. But Frank (helipcopter pilot) landed anyway, patched one hole leaking gas. Desmond patched the other hole & then hopped on board as they took off.

Posted 5/30/08 1:00 PM
 

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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

Posted by Tilde

Posted by MrsQ-in2007

Posted by Elbee

Posted by BlondeJD


I'm hoping that they just *think* he's dead - like they're assuming he's dead because he was on the boat but maybe he made it back to the island. If they haven't had contact with anyone on the island, they would still think he's dead. Probably just wishful thinking though Chat Icon I really like Jin.



That would be nice, but that was a mighty explosion (although Jin did make it to top deck before it exploded so if he could somehow get afloat he could techincally survive (although the island did disappear, so that's a lot of floating/keeping alive after being in an explosion/sinking hot metal boat!) ...



The thing is, in that same flash forward episode Sun gives birth and we think that Jin is running to make it to the hospital in time for the delivery (buying that huge panda etc), but he was delivering it to some head honcho's daughter. And he's not married in that flash forward I believe. So maybe he did survive but lost his memory or something.

Also, remember that there's some time travel involved. When Jack's dad saw Michael, he told him "you can go now"... maybe there was some time travel involved there and they were saved??? Don't know, but I hope Jin is still alive.

Also, that scene with Des and Penny was just Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon



The scene with Jin was a flashBACK and the scene with Sun was a flashFORWARD.



Dangit, I thought that's what it was but then heard they were both flashFORWARDS. Chat Icon Man, that means Jin really is gone! Chat Icon

Posted 5/30/08 1:38 PM
 

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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

Posted by MrsQ-in2007

Dangit, I thought that's what it was but then heard they were both flashFORWARDS. Chat Icon Man, that means Jin really is gone! Chat Icon



i am still hoping that he is ALIVE! Who knows with this crazy island? Maybe Boone and Jin and Ana Lucia are off skipping through a meadow somewhere!

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Posted 5/30/08 1:51 PM
 

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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

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Dangit, I thought that's what it was but then heard they were both flashFORWARDS. Chat Icon Man, that means Jin really is gone! Chat Icon



i am still hoping that he is ALIVE! Who knows with this crazy island? Maybe Boone and Jin and Ana Lucia are off skipping through a meadow somewhere!

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I'll take an alive Jin and Boone but please let's keep Ana Lucia and Shannon DEAD Chat Icon

Posted 5/30/08 2:04 PM
 

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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

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I thought it was "bentham" an alias for Ben Chat Icon Really not sure....


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it is bentham i googled it but it doesn't say who it really is just that it is the person in the coffin



The guy in the coffin was john loch he used a diffrent name in the beginning when Jack and kate are talking about jermy Bentham she saids that's not even his real name.

Posted 5/30/08 2:27 PM
 

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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

ben ended up in the desert, remember? he was in the same jacket when he killed the 2 arabs on horses. i believe that is what happened after he moved the island.

what was the deal with john/jeremy? did he tell everyone to keep lying or was he telling the 6 to now tell the truth?

and the redheaded chick was born on the island, from what i gathered.

Posted 5/30/08 2:36 PM
 

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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

Posted by groovypeg



and the redheaded chick was born on the island, from what i gathered.




Do you think she is the girl that Ben was friends with when he was a boy?

Posted 5/30/08 2:46 PM
 

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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

Posted by MrsRbk

Posted by groovypeg



and the redheaded chick was born on the island, from what i gathered.




Do you think she is the girl that Ben was friends with when he was a boy?



ooh, good one!

Posted 5/30/08 2:55 PM
 

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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

i always assumed that the tombstone for jin was part of the coverup, but now it seems that sun thinks he's dead, but I don't think so (at least I hope not).

Posted 5/30/08 3:25 PM
 

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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

Posted by BlondeJD

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I thought it was a great episode - except for Jin possibly dying in the explosion.


Jin is dead. In one of the flash forward episodes when Hurley visits Sun (after she had the baby), they visit Jin's grave. The date of death on Jin's tombstone is September 22, 2004 - which is when Oceanic Flight 815 crashed - remeber they are all lying about who survived the crash.



I'm hoping that they just *think* he's dead - like they're assuming he's dead because he was on the boat but maybe he made it back to the island. If they haven't had contact with anyone on the island, they would still think he's dead. Probably just wishful thinking though Chat Icon I really like Jin.



I am hoping something like this too....like Sun will bring down her fathers company and right as he is being ruined in walks Jin laughing his a$$ off

Posted 5/30/08 4:36 PM
 

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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

Posted by groovypeg

ben ended up in the desert, remember? he was in the same jacket when he killed the 2 arabs on horses. i believe that is what happened after he moved the island.

what was the deal with john/jeremy? did he tell everyone to keep lying or was he telling the 6 to now tell the truth?

and the redheaded chick was born on the island, from what i gathered.




He was telling everyone they had to go back to the island

Posted 5/30/08 4:40 PM
 

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Posted by FeliciaDP
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I'll take an alive Jin and Boone but please let's keep Ana Lucia and Shannon DEAD Chat Icon



I'm ok with Shannon but Chat Icon Ana Lucia (u hittin that?) Chat Icon

Posted 5/30/08 4:59 PM
 

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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

Posted by MrsRbk

Do you think she is the girl that Ben was friends with when he was a boy?



Definitely! I told DH the same thing.

I really loved this episode. FINALLY ANSWERS!!!

So my question is if they ALL have to go back to the island- and that includes Walt and a dead Locke, what about Jin and Michael. Dont' they have to return? So if they have been blown to bits in the explosion, how is that going to happen?

(That's my way of hoping they are OK)

Message edited 5/30/2008 10:17:25 PM.

Posted 5/30/08 10:17 PM
 

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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

Posted by MrsQ-in2007

Posted by MrsRbk

Posted by groovypeg



and the redheaded chick was born on the island, from what i gathered.




Do you think she is the girl that Ben was friends with when he was a boy?



ooh, good one!



Call me crazy, but I think Charlotte (redheaded chick) is Ben's real daughter and he doesn't know it. That's the only loophole I can think of that wouldn't lead to Ben killing Penny in revenge for Alex's death.

They're really running out of characters to kill. A one-season moratorium on key character deaths would be great.

Posted 5/30/08 10:43 PM
 

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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

What do you think happened to Daniel and the other people who were going to the freighter?? They were caught out in the water, they saw the flash..do you think Daniel will come back???

Posted 5/31/08 8:25 AM
 

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What do you all make of the Egyptian hieroglyphics in the orchid?

Posted 5/31/08 7:04 PM
 

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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

the chick ben was friends with, what happened to her?

Posted 5/31/08 9:12 PM
 

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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

Posted by groovypeg

the chick ben was friends with, what happened to her?



Her name was Annie. Accoding to this Annie it's unknown what happened to her.

Here is another link with theories on Annie. I posted on the previous page, that I believe Charlotte was the little girl he was friends with, Annie/Charlotte

Message edited 5/31/2008 9:30:58 PM.

Posted 5/31/08 9:28 PM
 

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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

Posted by Shelly

Posted by MrsRbk

Do you think she is the girl that Ben was friends with when he was a boy?



Definitely! I told DH the same thing.

I really loved this episode. FINALLY ANSWERS!!!

So my question is if they ALL have to go back to the island- and that includes Walt and a dead Locke, what about Jin and Michael. Dont' they have to return? So if they have been blown to bits in the explosion, how is that going to happen?

(That's my way of hoping they are OK)



The actor who played Michael gave an interview to TV Guide - he found out before filming the season 4 finale that his character would die. He also stated that he would not return to the show.

Posted 5/31/08 9:39 PM
 

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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

Jacks dad told Michael, you better get going before the boat blows up. Even though it was a cut straight the boat blowing up, Michael "CAN" be alive. If Michael is alive, so is Jin since Jin got a head start and was already at the edge of the boat when it blew. Maybe Dainel picks them up i there small boat and goes back to the other remote island (if that island is not connected) or the looking glass (whatever that under water station is called)

Posted 5/31/08 9:45 PM
 

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Posted by Erlifried

Did anyone see Good Morning America this morning? They filmed two alternate endings in case word got out who was in the coffin before last night's finale....the other two endings show Sawyer and Desmond in the coffin...Desmond in the coffin would have been real interesting because we are assuming that he is going to ride off into the sunset with Penny....



I totally forgot to watch this! grrrrrr! Maybe I can find something on You Tube.

Posted 5/31/08 10:00 PM
 

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Re: LOST SHOW DISCUSSION ***SPOILERS**

Does anyone wonder why Sun is so interested in the flashfowards in Whitmore? Do you think w/ the whole time travel thing she is trying to go back in time and save her husband ?
LOL...sorry if that sounds stupid.

Posted 5/31/08 10:31 PM
 
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