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LuckyStar
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Is this a thing- daycare related

So DD's daycare sent home this evaluation booklet for me to "review." I was not told this would be coming home, nor that this was something that was done. Most of the stuff is fine but there are a few things checked off that I don't agree with, which I admit is probably why I'm so peeved at this.

I'm curious to know why a 9 month old needs a report card and even more curious as to what they think I, as her mother, am supposed to gain from this. I live with her. I know how she's developing. Furthermore, I have a pediatrician to speak with should I have any concerns. You know, someone who went to medical school. I'm not sure why it is going on record that my DD doesn't babble (she does) or feed herself (not only does she feed herself finger food, she tries to spoon feed herself).

Is this a thing? Do other daycares do this?

ETA: I just looked again and one of the "milestones" is "manipulates writing instruments." Manipulates. Writing. Instruments. Who is handing a 9 month old a motherflucking pencil?

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Posted 9/29/16 8:51 PM
 
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Is this a thing- daycare related

I have never gotten something like this and my DS has been in daycare for 2 years. I just get a daily report that says what he ate and how he napped. They usually write a little blurb about his day too "DS liked reading books and playing outside with his friends. His favorite part of the day was...."

Posted 9/29/16 9:01 PM
 

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Re: Is this a thing- daycare related

My kids get developmental checklists twice a year, usually November and May. I'm not sure what age they start though as my kids didn't start daycare until over a year old.

I get what you're saying that it might be inappropriate for a 9 month old, but for the older ages I think it's been helpful in reference to some of the "academic" tasks that I might not be noticing or doing at home.

Just wanted to add that our teachers have always stressed that they only give it a checkmark if they see the behavior at school and so we shouldn't think anything of it if they can do something but don't have a checkmark.

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Posted 9/29/16 9:16 PM
 

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Is this a thing- daycare related

I would try not to take it so much as them judging her performance and more just for information about what she's doing there. I would let them know that they should encourage her to do xyz more because she does them at home. Maybe they aren't giving her the opportunity to spoon feed herself etc? I know kids can act very differently at school vs at home so it's probably true for infants too. Maybe she doesn't babble much there because there's so much going on and she's busy talking it in. I can see how you would be taken aback and even upset but I would try to look for the positive in it.

Posted 9/29/16 9:22 PM
 

LuckyStar
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Is this a thing- daycare related

I get the daily sheets, too and those are very helpful.

I 100% understand using this for older children and would think it was odd to not have something like this for, say, 2 and up. Or if there are major developmental concerns at any age, though I would still hope that would be more of a dialogue and not something like this. I need to initial everything and then I can "challenge" anything I disagree with. It seems utterly insane to me.

Posted 9/29/16 9:26 PM
 

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Is this a thing- daycare related

I've heard of this in Montessori schools but not in regular daycares and I used to work in them and my daughter goes to one.

Posted 9/29/16 9:33 PM
 

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Re: Is this a thing- daycare related

Posted by LuckyStar

I need to initial everything and then I can "challenge" anything I disagree with. It seems utterly insane to me.



Well that's a bit much!

Posted 9/29/16 9:37 PM
 

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Never got that but if I had, it would have went right in the trash and I would have told the director not to send any more of that shitt home.
I was paying them a mortgage payment every month to watch my kid and keep their mouths shut.
Period the end.
I make the rules.
If they had am issue with it I would have taken my $1300 a month for 3 days a week elsewhere and they could go scratch.
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Posted 9/29/16 9:55 PM
 

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Re: Is this a thing- daycare related

9 months old. Oh get the fluck out of here.!!! My ds is just now getting the hang of holding a pencil ..hes 4 and in pre k!

Posted 9/29/16 9:58 PM
 

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Re: Is this a thing- daycare related

We get these once or twice a year and a parent teacher meeting. The categories are different but generally provide feedback on the child's development based on age. I find it helpful - they are with my kids 50 hours s week and can compare to other kids.

The categories on our docs seem more appropriate for their age. No one graded my baby on writing utensils!

I especially appreciate the feedback on social development for my toddler. We aren't often around a lot of kids on the weekend so it's good to know how she is handling those interactions.

Posted 9/29/16 10:02 PM
 

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Is this a thing- daycare related

We get these a couple of times a year but it didn't start until the 3s program and it is based on things they learn at school. They are assessed individually.

IMO not necessary at 9m.

Posted 9/29/16 10:19 PM
 

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Is this a thing- daycare related

At the day care I worked at years ago we did this but it was more appropriate like smiles when they see parent. The writing utensils they mean crayon paint brush etc. does she do art work there? But challenging seems a bit mucg

Posted 9/30/16 4:16 AM
 

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Re: Is this a thing- daycare related

We get it twice a year from day care along with a nice note. I appreciate it. Yes, I know what milestones my children have reached, but I also like the note as an extra insight into what my child enjoys doing at day car. They are there more than they are home with me.

Our day care has them appropriate to the age group, so my baby wouldn't have anything about writing on her eval. And if something was there that she shouldn't be doing yet, it would be blank or N/A.

Posted 9/30/16 9:17 AM
 

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Re: Is this a thing- daycare related

Posted by NYCGirl80

We get it twice a year from day care along with a nice note. I appreciate it. Yes, I know what milestones my children have reached, but I also like the note as an extra insight into what my child enjoys doing at day car. They are there more than they are home with me.

Our day care has them appropriate to the age group, so my baby wouldn't have anything about writing on her eval. And if something was there that she shouldn't be doing yet, it would be blank or N/A.




This -
I always got one, and appreciated it.
At my daycare, the staff are all educators of some degree - some all the way through PHD. I appreciated their insight, and it confirmed the idea that they were doing more than just putting my kid in a room and making sure they were alive at the end of the day for all of the $$$$$ I was paying .......

If here was something I disagreed with, I usually asked about it -
Like, your example of them telling you that she doesn't babble or feed herself, but you know that she does ......MY concern and thought would be 'why isn't she doing it all day with them?" - Are they not engaging her to GET her to babble back to them or with the other babies? Are they feeding her everything b/c it's easier and less messy and not giving her a real opportunity to feed herself? KWIM?

I really don't see any reason at all to get huffy or offended by it. And if you feel it's BS or unnecessary or ridiculous for a 9 month old (as others have said) Just toss it.

ETA - "writing utensils" are probably those fat crayons .......no one is handing a 9 month old a pencil! (and if they are you need a new daycare!)

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Posted 9/30/16 9:30 AM
 

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Re: Is this a thing- daycare related

Posted by LuckyStar



Furthermore, I have a pediatrician to speak with should I have any concerns. You know, someone who went to medical school.



Well, that is really obnoxious. But these people are good enough to watch your kid right?Chat Icon

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Posted 9/30/16 9:39 AM
 

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Is this a thing- daycare related

I did not have my son in daycare past 2 yrs old. But this would have been helpful.
They spend the majority of the day with your child. They make observations. All they are doing is letting you know their observations. It can be helpful. My son is ASD and was diagnosed at 2 yrs old but the signs were there before that. When I would talk to the daycare providers they would argue with every concern I had. It became uncomfortable. Think of it as an extra set of eyes checking on her.

Posted 9/30/16 9:46 AM
 

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Re: Is this a thing- daycare related

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Posted by LuckyStar



Furthermore, I have a pediatrician to speak with should I have any concerns. You know, someone who went to medical school.



Well, that is really obnoxious. But these people are good enough to watch your kid right?Chat Icon



I don't require an MD to watch my kid, but I do require an MD to give me advice on issues as she described above.
I don't see her comment as being obnoxious.

Posted 9/30/16 9:57 AM
 

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Re: Is this a thing- daycare related

Posted by MarisaK

Posted by NYCGirl80

We get it twice a year from day care along with a nice note. I appreciate it. Yes, I know what milestones my children have reached, but I also like the note as an extra insight into what my child enjoys doing at day car. They are there more than they are home with me.

Our day care has them appropriate to the age group, so my baby wouldn't have anything about writing on her eval. And if something was there that she shouldn't be doing yet, it would be blank or N/A.




This -
I always got one, and appreciated it.
At my daycare, the staff are all educators of some degree - some all the way through PHD. I appreciated their insight, and it confirmed the idea that they were doing more than just putting my kid in a room and making sure they were alive at the end of the day for all of the $$$$$ I was paying .......

If here was something I disagreed with, I usually asked about it -
Like, your example of them telling you that she doesn't babble or feed herself, but you know that she does ......MY concern and thought would be 'why isn't she doing it all day with them?" - Are they not engaging her to GET her to babble back to them or with the other babies? Are they feeding her everything b/c it's easier and less messy and not giving her a real opportunity to feed herself? KWIM?

I really don't see any reason at all to get huffy or offended by it. And if you feel it's BS or unnecessary or ridiculous for a 9 month old (as others have said) Just toss it.

ETA - "writing utensils" are probably those fat crayons .......no one is handing a 9 month old a pencil! (and if they are you need a new daycare!)



This how I would look at it too. Ask them about it if you have any concerns. And I immediately thought crayons when they said writing utensils. I highly doubt they meant a pencil or pen.

Posted 9/30/16 10:22 AM
 

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Re: Is this a thing- daycare related

My DD goes to a home daycare and they don't do this... I think the "challenging" thing is a little much but I wouldn't mind a note about what she is/isn't doing just so I was aware.

My DS is special needs and was not in daycare but I picked up red flags on my own, and at 18 months called Early Intervention. Since he was not compared to typical peers who knows, maybe I could have called sooner if someone else saw the signs earlier than I did.

Posted 9/30/16 10:22 AM
 

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Is this a thing- daycare related

She does not do art projects or use any writing implements whatsoever. She is 9 months old. She would likely try to eat a crayon if it were handed to her because she's busy teething, not coloring pictures.

I did not get any explanation of what was checked off. It was sent home in her bag on a day she stays late so she was picked up after the head teacher left, with a post it explaining the instructions. This was not what she enjoyed doing. This is a list of developmental milestones, some of which I personally find ridiculous for a child her age.

I certainly appreciate any feedback the teachers give me. DD crawled a bit late and I had discussed this with them repeatedly and asked their opinion. I know they see lots of kids and I value what they have to say. But if there is something they feel she should be doing, tell me. Don't send it home checked off in a booklet and tell me to initial everything and challenge what I don't agree with.

Posted 9/30/16 10:44 AM
 

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Re: Is this a thing- daycare related

Posted by LuckyStar

She does not do art projects or use any writing implements whatsoever. She is 9 months old. She would likely try to eat a crayon if it were handed to her because she's busy teething, not coloring pictures.

I did not get any explanation of what was checked off. It was sent home in her bag on a day she stays late so she was picked up after the head teacher left, with a post it explaining the instructions. This was not what she enjoyed doing. This is a list of developmental milestones, some of which I personally find ridiculous for a child her age.

I certainly appreciate any feedback the teachers give me. DD crawled a bit late and I had discussed this with them repeatedly and asked their opinion. I know they see lots of kids and I value what they have to say. But if there is something they feel she should be doing, tell me. Don't send it home checked off in a booklet and tell me to initial everything and challenge what I don't agree with.



Yeah that is excessive.
At that age, I would get a sheet saying how many times she pooped, peed, what and when she ate, and when she napped.
And maybe her mood that day and things she enjoyed.

If I were you, I would not send it back, not initial it or challenge Chat Icon it, and if they ask you where it is tell them you won't be participating.
Again- you pay them.
They can't say boo to you.
What are they going to do....suspend her from school?

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Posted 9/30/16 10:55 AM
 

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Re: Is this a thing- daycare related

Posted by LuckyStar

She does not do art projects or use any writing implements whatsoever. She is 9 months old. She would likely try to eat a crayon if it were handed to her because she's busy teething, not coloring pictures.

I did not get any explanation of what was checked off. It was sent home in her bag on a day she stays late so she was picked up after the head teacher left, with a post it explaining the instructions. This was not what she enjoyed doing. This is a list of developmental milestones, some of which I personally find ridiculous for a child her age.

I certainly appreciate any feedback the teachers give me. DD crawled a bit late and I had discussed this with them repeatedly and asked their opinion. I know they see lots of kids and I value what they have to say. But if there is something they feel she should be doing, tell me. Don't send it home checked off in a booklet and tell me to initial everything and challenge what I don't agree with.



I think your taking it a bit too personal. I would talk to them about the points you disagree with and see what they say. As people who spend almost as much time with my child as I do, I appreciate any insight they have.

Posted 9/30/16 12:29 PM
 

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Re: Is this a thing- daycare related

Posted by Michi

Posted by LuckyStar

She does not do art projects or use any writing implements whatsoever. She is 9 months old. She would likely try to eat a crayon if it were handed to her because she's busy teething, not coloring pictures.

I did not get any explanation of what was checked off. It was sent home in her bag on a day she stays late so she was picked up after the head teacher left, with a post it explaining the instructions. This was not what she enjoyed doing. This is a list of developmental milestones, some of which I personally find ridiculous for a child her age.

I certainly appreciate any feedback the teachers give me. DD crawled a bit late and I had discussed this with them repeatedly and asked their opinion. I know they see lots of kids and I value what they have to say. But if there is something they feel she should be doing, tell me. Don't send it home checked off in a booklet and tell me to initial everything and challenge what I don't agree with.



I think your taking it a bit too personal. I would talk to them about the points you disagree with and see what they say. As people who spend almost as much time with my child as I do, I appreciate any insight they have.



I agree. You don't have to agree with what they tell you, they are just saying what they see during the hours they are interacting with your child. I would be please to know they are looking out for milestones and showing interest in each child's development. I wouldn't take it as a critique of your parenting.
I certainly wouldn't worry about the 'writing utensil' comment, what 9 month old holds a crayon correctly?!!

Posted 9/30/16 12:58 PM
 

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Re: Is this a thing- daycare related

DS didn't start daycare until after 2, but he got these twice a year. I always found them helpful. If there was a milestone he was behind on, I tried to make sure I was working on it with him. If there was something I disagreed on, I emailed them or called the director during the day and we discussed it.

His daycare does have a newborn program, so i'm sure they would do the same kind of evaluation. I'd rather catch it early than find out too late that my kid has developmental delays.

Posted 9/30/16 2:43 PM
 

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Re: Is this a thing- daycare related

Posted by MarisaK

Posted by NYCGirl80

We get it twice a year from day care along with a nice note. I appreciate it. Yes, I know what milestones my children have reached, but I also like the note as an extra insight into what my child enjoys doing at day car. They are there more than they are home with me.

Our day care has them appropriate to the age group, so my baby wouldn't have anything about writing on her eval. And if something was there that she shouldn't be doing yet, it would be blank or N/A.




This -
I always got one, and appreciated it.
At my daycare, the staff are all educators of some degree - some all the way through PHD. I appreciated their insight, and it confirmed the idea that they were doing more than just putting my kid in a room and making sure they were alive at the end of the day for all of the $$$$$ I was paying .......

If here was something I disagreed with, I usually asked about it -
Like, your example of them telling you that she doesn't babble or feed herself, but you know that she does ......MY concern and thought would be 'why isn't she doing it all day with them?" - Are they not engaging her to GET her to babble back to them or with the other babies? Are they feeding her everything b/c it's easier and less messy and not giving her a real opportunity to feed herself? KWIM?

I really don't see any reason at all to get huffy or offended by it. And if you feel it's BS or unnecessary or ridiculous for a 9 month old (as others have said) Just toss it.

ETA - "writing utensils" are probably those fat crayons .......no one is handing a 9 month old a pencil! (and if they are you need a new daycare!)



I totally agree with this. I look at these sheets from my daycare as more of a test of the teachers. They spend a ton of time with my kids and I want to make sure they know exactly what is going on/skills of my DDs/what needs to be worked on.

Also - if there is an age range in the room - other kids may be using crayons. It's amazing how quickly they gather skills. My DD is over a year now but she both scribbles and eats the crayons. Chat Icon

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