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sleepie76
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found dog - update
I get a call today about my poster about the found dog. I explain to them that the dog had been returned.
They tell me they HAVE this dog. I drive there and yep, same dog out running for 3 days. They have had her for 2 days. I only returned her on sunday and she is already out again.
I think that family wants to keep her. I tried calling the # I had, and got no answer. I told them it was there call, as they found her. They said they would try to contact her, but Idont know.
WWYD ?
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Diana712
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Re: found dog - update
ARE YOU FRIGGIN KIDDING ME!!!!!!!! I hate to judge anyone and have these horrible feelings about anyone but I am livid.. I have to calm down! I will revisit this thread later
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| Posted 9/18/08 9:09 PM |
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sleepie76
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Re: found dog - update
Posted by dilb712
ARE YOU FRIGGIN KIDDING ME!!!!!!!! I hate to judge anyone and have these horrible feelings about anyone but I am livid.. I have to calm down! I will revisit this thread later
I felt the same way.
My conscience said return her, but the rest of me said f@@k it, atleast she would have a nice home with a great family.
The kicker - I found out she only lives 1 block away. walk around the block, call her name and look for your freakin dog.
If I lost my dog, you would hear me all night long calling her name. You would have to call the cops on me.
that dog was so freakin happy to see me. It was nice to see her again.
I said" if I take her I will return her, because I met the woman. but I think we will see her again if I do!"
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| Posted 9/18/08 10:33 PM |
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Re: found dog - update
WWYD? I would have been hesitant to give the dog back in the first place, b/c my gut istinct said they DO NOT care about her. So I would tell these new people to KEEP HER IF THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF HER.
I KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN. That lady is a bad pet owner and doesn't deserve her dog back, bottom line. Tell them what she did/said, etc, and that she clearly doesn't care.
I think these people, if they are ready to take care of a dog, should keep her. Unless of course you also want her.....hmmm? Also..NEXT time the dog gets out, it could get hit by a car or taken by someone who wants to harm the dog (punky kids, etc). The fate of this dog rests in the hands of those rescueing it, b/c the owner clearly won't provide safety for the dog, which is a PET OWNER"S RESPONSIBILITY. This cutie deserves a LOVING caring pet owner who will PROTECT her, so NO WAY, I would NOT NOT NOT call the lady again...NOT. Trust me, apparently the dog is a burden to her, she can't even keep it safe so I think you would be doing this careless nasty lady a favor.
I am livid. I personally think you will not be doing this dog justice to give her back to the lady again...I really don't. JMO
Message edited 9/19/2008 11:19:11 AM.
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| Posted 9/19/08 2:56 AM |
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Diana712
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Re: found dog - update
Ok its the next morning and I just had my coffee..
Are you in touch with the people who have the dog now?? And did they give her back yet???
If so I would probably try to speak to her.. I would let her know this is really unfair to the dog and try to make her see how horrible the consequences are going to be if this keeps happening.. This is the typical kind of dog that gets hit by a car.. I could scream right now! 
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| Posted 9/19/08 7:36 AM |
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DaniJude
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Re: found dog - update
wow - i read the whole original story (on the other thread) and thought 'that dog is going to get loose again in a second!" - then, i saw this  what a shame! that poor thing is not being cared for properly - i knew something was up when it didn't have a reaction to the owner coming to pick the dog up.
i don't know what to tell you - these people don't deserve a dog - i know that much!
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| Posted 9/20/08 12:58 AM |
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Kara
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Re: found dog - update
I honestly can't believe what I am reading on this thread, and I've read the original story, too. Yes, you give the dog back -- It's not yours and they don't seem to be abusing it.
Growing up, I had a dog that would get loose occasionally no matter what we did. We took LOTS of precautions and she still wound up getting out. She was the happy, friendly type and would GLADLY play with anyone who gave her the time of day. She once even ran into someone's house and another time jumped in a neighbor's pool. 
We did TONS of training, we did plenty of things to make sure she didn't get out - but she DID. Yes, she had tags, but on at least one occasion her collar came off before we could catch her. No, we never lost her overnight, but there were times we would lose sight of her trying to catch her. Had someone found her before we did and not tried to find us, I'd have been heartbroken. And CLEARLY there was potential for this to happen more than once.
Just because we had some problems with our dog getting out didn't mean we were horrible people, nor did it mean we didn't love the dog to death. A friend of mine had a similar issue with her family dog growing up. They loved that dog to death, too.
I honestly don't think you're in a position to decide who should have this dogs - it's not yours and it doesn't belong to the people who found it either. Not contacting the owners when you and the people who found the dog again and keeping the dog would be stealing.
If you or the person who found it thinks the family may not want the dog anymore - then ask if they would prefer to give it to one of you. If you want to teach it a lesson, take it to the animal control shelter and tell them the dog was loose without tags, but give them the owner's contact information. The owner will have to go get the dog and pay a fine. Tell AC that if the owner doesn't claim the dog, you want it.
This is honestly a situation where I'd give the owner the benefit of the doubt before stealing their dog. There are other options.
Yes, I get that running away and getting loose is bad. Yes, I get that it is dangerous... but you're not the doggie police, and I think the other person keeping the dog is wrong. If I were you and had the owner's contact information, I would call them - and pass along the contact information of the people who found the dog. It's NOT the finder's call who the dog lives with - it's the owner's call.
I GET that you and the person who found the dog are frustrated with the owners. Then offer to take the dog - but make it the owner's call.
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| Posted 9/20/08 8:23 AM |
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sleepie76
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Re: found dog - update
I tried calling the owner several times, no answer. Drove past the house, noone was home.
I thought about her all day yesterday at work and wondered if that woman called the owner.
I got off the train and drove past the house, saw some people out and was going to tell them. but decided to call the lady first and find out what was going on. Good thing I did.
The owner's aunt showed up for the dog at the woman's house with another woman, said she found a new home for the dog. As it was her neice's dog, but with 3 children under 3, she had more on her plate than she could handle and needed to rehome the dog.( which was my original suspicion when I met her - not a bad person, just didn't have the time for annabell).
SO annabel has a good home (hopefully). I was kinda sad, as I planned on calling her and saying I would keep her if she wanted. But as long as she has a loving home it's all good.
The woman keeping the dog was upset, she wanted to keep her. But I dont think she ever tried to contact the owner. Which is wrong. She said she would drive past the house that night, but I dont think she did. As she still had the dog. She was teaching her children to steal a dog, IMO.
I only had a # I kept calling.
She found name, address, school in one of her school listings.
I told her to go to the Shelter and adopt a dog in honor of Annabell.
Although, she'll probably go buy a dog.
Thanks for all your support through this.
Kara - thank you for your post. I agree.
Had the dog not been returned to its rightful owner yet, I would have run over to their house in my pj's after reading your post
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| Posted 9/20/08 10:29 AM |
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Diana712
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Re: found dog - update
Posted by Kara
I honestly can't believe what I am reading on this thread, and I've read the original story, too. Yes, you give the dog back -- It's not yours and they don't seem to be abusing it.
Growing up, I had a dog that would get loose occasionally no matter what we did. We took LOTS of precautions and she still wound up getting out. She was the happy, friendly type and would GLADLY play with anyone who gave her the time of day. She once even ran into someone's house and another time jumped in a neighbor's pool.
We did TONS of training, we did plenty of things to make sure she didn't get out - but she DID. Yes, she had tags, but on at least one occasion her collar came off before we could catch her. No, we never lost her overnight, but there were times we would lose sight of her trying to catch her. Had someone found her before we did and not tried to find us, I'd have been heartbroken. And CLEARLY there was potential for this to happen more than once.
Just because we had some problems with our dog getting out didn't mean we were horrible people, nor did it mean we didn't love the dog to death. A friend of mine had a similar issue with her family dog growing up. They loved that dog to death, too.
I honestly don't think you're in a position to decide who should have this dogs - it's not yours and it doesn't belong to the people who found it either. Not contacting the owners when you and the people who found the dog again and keeping the dog would be stealing.
If you or the person who found it thinks the family may not want the dog anymore - then ask if they would prefer to give it to one of you. If you want to teach it a lesson, take it to the animal control shelter and tell them the dog was loose without tags, but give them the owner's contact information. The owner will have to go get the dog and pay a fine. Tell AC that if the owner doesn't claim the dog, you want it.
This is honestly a situation where I'd give the owner the benefit of the doubt before stealing their dog. There are other options.
Yes, I get that running away and getting loose is bad. Yes, I get that it is dangerous... but you're not the doggie police, and I think the other person keeping the dog is wrong. If I were you and had the owner's contact information, I would call them - and pass along the contact information of the people who found the dog. It's NOT the finder's call who the dog lives with - it's the owner's call.
I GET that you and the person who found the dog are frustrated with the owners. Then offer to take the dog - but make it the owner's call.
Sorry but i totally diagree.... if you own a dog it is your responsibility to train it not to run away.. No matter what.. or keep your house fenced in if you have that kind of an animal and cant seem to train it. thats my opinion.. i am not doubting you didnt love your dog and I am sure your friend loved theres.. but this was not the case.. it was not her dog.. I agree I would not keep the dog without permission (but i would want to) I worked very very hard at making sure my dog was trained.. I put many many hours of reading and trainring into making sure she will not be a runner.. it takes alot of time and effort. and i was never ever a dog person.. if I can do it believe me anyone can..
ETA: also sometimes loving your pet is not always enough.. you have to properly care for that pet as well.
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| Posted 9/20/08 12:48 PM |
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Re: found dog - update
Posted by dilb712
Sorry but i totally diagree.... if you own a dog it is your responsibility to train it not to run away.. No matter what.. or keep your house fenced in if you have that kind of an animal and cant seem to train it. thats my opinion.. i am not doubting you didnt love your dog and I am sure your friend loved theres.. but this was not the case.. it was not her dog.. I agree I would not keep the dog without permission (but i would want to) I worked very very hard at making sure my dog was trained.. I put many many hours of reading and trainring into making sure she will not be a runner.. it takes alot of time and effort. and i was never ever a dog person.. if I can do it believe me anyone can..
ETA: also sometimes loving your pet is not always enough.. you have to properly care for that pet as well.
Thanks for your opinion, but we DID properly care for our dog, thankyouverymuch.
We had a 6' fence around the yard and she never got out from the yard. However, when you have guests over, someone winds up holding the door open too long and the dog gets out. Or the dog slips away from you. I'm sorry we weren't perfect dog owners by your definition -- but our dog was in obedience training for years -- she never learned not to run away. We were lucky that we always found her within a matter of minutes, but sometimes thing happen outside your control.
Please, I understand your concern for the proper care of animals, but guess what - things happen. We cared for that dog very well and our friends also cared for their dog very well. You don't have to believe me and I don't need to convince you. I'm perfectly content with the care that dog received. But don't tell me that a dog should NEVER get out -- b/c, honestly, things DO happen even when you take wondeful care of your pets.
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| Posted 9/20/08 7:35 PM |
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Diana712
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Re: found dog - update
Yes things do happen but if it KEEPS happening than its very irresponsible of the owner.. This was not a one time thing this dog inparticularly got out constantly.. this is what I am talking about .. thankyouverymuch. This thread is not about you and your dog growing up.. its about this dog and what was happening with this situation.. Thankyouverymuch....
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| Posted 9/20/08 8:55 PM |
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Re: found dog - update
Posted by dilb712
Yes things do happen but if it KEEPS happening than its very irresponsible of the owner.. This was not a one time thing this dog inparticularly got out constantly.. this is what I am talking about .. thankyouverymuch. This thread is not about you and your dog growing up.. its about this dog and what was happening with this situation.. Thankyouverymuch....
Sorry, I was unaware that I had to follow your specific rules for threads. My post was on topic, based on my experiences. I am also entitled to respond to what you said to me and your intimation that I didn't properly care for my dog.
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| Posted 9/21/08 9:03 AM |
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Diana712
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Re: found dog - update
Ok I can see where this is going  this was not about YOU ever.
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| Posted 9/21/08 9:16 AM |
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Re: found dog - update
Posted by Kara
I honestly can't believe what I am reading on this thread, and I've read the original story, too. Yes, you give the dog back -- It's not yours and they don't seem to be abusing it.
Abusive to me is anything that can harm or endanger your pet. Not keeping an animal safe and providing it a safe place is abusive to an animal who cannot decide how to keep itself safe.
One time, ok, fine mistakes happen but two times in a week? Obviously, based on the update, the "owner" didn't want her dog ENOUGH to find a way to make it work or keep it safe even within a FEW DAYS and she wasn't even that thankful when picking up her dog. And she even needed someone ELSE to find her dog a home...so you really can't compare the situations you describe with this particular one.
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| Posted 9/21/08 9:30 AM |
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Re: found dog - update
Posted by dilb712
Yes things do happen but if it KEEPS happening than its very irresponsible of the owner.. This was not a one time thing this dog inparticularly got out constantly.. this is what I am talking about .. thankyouverymuch. This thread is not about you and your dog growing up.. its about this dog and what was happening with this situation.. Thankyouverymuch....
I do agree, every situation is different and that doesn't mean EVERYONE whose dog ever got out falls into the same category.
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| Posted 9/21/08 9:42 AM |
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Diana712
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Re: found dog - update
Posted by Goobster
Posted by dilb712
Yes things do happen but if it KEEPS happening than its very irresponsible of the owner.. This was not a one time thing this dog inparticularly got out constantly.. this is what I am talking about .. thankyouverymuch. This thread is not about you and your dog growing up.. its about this dog and what was happening with this situation.. Thankyouverymuch....
I do agree, every situation is different and that doesn't mean EVERYONE whose dog ever got out falls into the same category.
Exactly!! of course not!! We are discussing this dog and the series of events that have occurred!! 
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| Posted 9/21/08 9:52 AM |
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Re: found dog - update
Posted by dilb712
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Posted by dilb712
Yes things do happen but if it KEEPS happening than its very irresponsible of the owner.. This was not a one time thing this dog inparticularly got out constantly.. this is what I am talking about .. thankyouverymuch. This thread is not about you and your dog growing up.. its about this dog and what was happening with this situation.. Thankyouverymuch....
I do agree, every situation is different and that doesn't mean EVERYONE whose dog ever got out falls into the same category.
Exactly!! of course not!! We are discussing this dog and the series of events that have occurred!!
What I was also just going to add...
What makes this story VERY different from the stories Kara describes about her dog growing up is the owner's LAX attitude (see OP) when OP located her and GAVE her back her "PRECIOUS beloved pet back". There are so many differences b/w the OP and Kara's posts about her own dog. They hardly seem the same to me that you can't even compare the two.
And keep in mind, the OP asked WWYD, not what is the legal thing to do so that's where most responses were coming from. Sure, bringing the dog to the shelter is the legal thing to do, but...alot of people would not want do this for many reasons, esp when the writing is on the wall that this woman clearly didn't want "her" dog enough to keep it safe and care for it, anyway.
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