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mommy2Two
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Do You Think Taxes in LI will be like CA
My taxes are $7800. I'm in suffolk county and I think my taxes are typical for my house size, land, area etc. I often wonder how much more will the taxes rise. Because my dh and I said, if the taxes hit $15,000 for this house, we are going to have to go elsewhere. My rent in my old place is starting to become the amount my taxes are costing me monthly. That's really something to think about. My avergae rate of tax increase in dollars is about $500 yearly. when do you think the taxes stay level? or never?
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Around the block from me taxes are 25 thousand on a new home.My home is almost 15 thousand a year with star.(time to move)
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I am in Suffolk and my taxes are little over $10,000
It is crazy and I most likely will try to get them lowered when I have the time to research it.
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OUr taxes are almost $8,00 for our townhouse. 
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If the government doesn't do something...LI is headed for lots of trouble say 10-15 years down the line. Forget about the home prices being unaffordable...with taxes always on the rise at about $500-$600 a year, people will be forced out.
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gregory99
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Re: Do You Think Taxes in LI will be like CA
The problem is the school system in LI. People are scared to tackle the issue, but there has to be a push for more centralized administrative services. Educators get very defensive, because on Long Island, teaching is big business. It is hard to justify the high costs of schools when superindentents are making more than 300k. The easy answer for everyone is just to pick up and leave LI.
As long as parents continue to approve school budgets, our taxes will go up. My taxes in 2003 were 7700 and now they are 9500 and I would say 90% of the increase is because of school budget increases. By next I am sure my tax bill will be over 10k.
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Maathy317
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Re: Do You Think Taxes in LI will be like CA
Posted by gregory99
The problem is the school system in LI. People are scared to tackle the issue, but there has to be a push for more centralized administrative services. Educators get very defensive, because on Long Island, teaching is big business. It is hard to justify the high costs of schools when superindentents are making more than 300k. The easy answer for everyone is just to pick up and leave LI.
As long as parents continue to approve school budgets, our taxes will go up. My taxes in 2003 were 7700 and now they are 9500 and I would say 90% of the increase is because of school budget increases. By next I am sure my tax bill will be over 10k.
You hit the nail right on the head. Unless and until school budgets are brought under control, our taxes will continue to rise with no end in sight. 67% of my taxes goes to the local school district with the majority of that being spent on salaries, pensions and benefits. That's obscene! However, people keep passing these ridiculous budgets because it's "for the benefit of the children". I have yet to see any Westinghouse Scholars or Intel Scholarship winners coming from my school district. The boards need to get a backbone and not give teachers everything they want. The teachers need to step up and start paying a large amount of their pensions and benefits. The taxpayers need to keep saying no until something is done to bring spending under control.
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hazeleyes33
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Re: Do You Think Taxes in LI will be like CA
Posted by gregory99
The problem is the school system in LI. People are scared to tackle the issue, but there has to be a push for more centralized administrative services. Educators get very defensive, because on Long Island, teaching is big business. It is hard to justify the high costs of schools when superindentents are making more than 300k. The easy answer for everyone is just to pick up and leave LI.
As long as parents continue to approve school budgets, our taxes will go up. My taxes in 2003 were 7700 and now they are 9500 and I would say 90% of the increase is because of school budget increases. By next I am sure my tax bill will be over 10k.
Sachem's school tax is NOT going up this year-yeahhh!!!!
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| Posted 10/12/07 4:38 PM |
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Posted by gregory99
The problem is the school system in LI. People are scared to tackle the issue, but there has to be a push for more centralized administrative services. Educators get very defensive, because on Long Island, teaching is big business. It is hard to justify the high costs of schools when superindentents are making more than 300k. The easy answer for everyone is just to pick up and leave LI.
As long as parents continue to approve school budgets, our taxes will go up. My taxes in 2003 were 7700 and now they are 9500 and I would say 90% of the increase is because of school budget increases. By next I am sure my tax bill will be over 10k.
Sachem's school tax is NOT going up this year-yeahhh!!!!
I live in Sachem. Hang on to that warm glow because next year they, certainly, will. The only reason they didn't go up this year is because of the extra money from the State. They, and all of the districts were warned, that this money will not be something they can count on in the future. So, while there was a break this year, it won't happen again.
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| Posted 10/12/07 5:13 PM |
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Re: Do You Think Taxes in LI will be like CA
Posted by Maathy317
You hit the nail right on the head. Unless and until school budgets are brought under control, our taxes will continue to rise with no end in sight. 67% of my taxes goes to the local school district with the majority of that being spent on salaries, pensions and benefits. That's obscene! However, people keep passing these ridiculous budgets because it's "for the benefit of the children". I have yet to see any Westinghouse Scholars or Intel Scholarship winners coming from my school district. The boards need to get a backbone and not give teachers everything they want. The teachers need to step up and start paying a large amount of their pensions and benefits. The taxpayers need to keep saying no until something is done to bring spending under control.
I agree that taxes on Long Island are way out of control, and it seems crazy that school budgets keep going up and up every year.
However, I also think it's really sad that if a budget doesn't get passed, instead of cutting the salary of the several-hundred-thousand-dollar-a-year administrators or really taking a hard look at how those dollars are being spent, the district will immediately cut music, art, afterschool activities, labs, AP classes, and all the other beneficial programs that make Long Island students well-rounded, talented, and academically competitive. So passing the budget in many ways really IS for the benefit of the children.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I was not under the impression that the high taxes were due to the school teachers getting everything they want...
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| Posted 10/12/07 5:29 PM |
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Re: Do You Think Taxes in LI will be like CA
Posted by Maathy317
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Posted by gregory99
The problem is the school system in LI. People are scared to tackle the issue, but there has to be a push for more centralized administrative services. Educators get very defensive, because on Long Island, teaching is big business. It is hard to justify the high costs of schools when superindentents are making more than 300k. The easy answer for everyone is just to pick up and leave LI.
As long as parents continue to approve school budgets, our taxes will go up. My taxes in 2003 were 7700 and now they are 9500 and I would say 90% of the increase is because of school budget increases. By next I am sure my tax bill will be over 10k.
Sachem's school tax is NOT going up this year-yeahhh!!!!
I live in Sachem. Hang on to that warm glow because next year they, certainly, will. The only reason they didn't go up this year is because of the extra money from the State. They, and all of the districts were warned, that this money will not be something they can count on in the future. So, while there was a break this year, it won't happen again.
I went to a PTA meeting with the Superintendent (who makes $200,000, not $300,000) and he has stated that they even have left over money for next year and they cut down the budget. While all we can do is wait and see if that is true, I saw the entire budget and what money went where and he did a really good on cutting down.
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Maathy317
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Re: Do You Think Taxes in LI will be like CA
Posted by JessInCA
Posted by Maathy317
You hit the nail right on the head. Unless and until school budgets are brought under control, our taxes will continue to rise with no end in sight. 67% of my taxes goes to the local school district with the majority of that being spent on salaries, pensions and benefits. That's obscene! However, people keep passing these ridiculous budgets because it's "for the benefit of the children". I have yet to see any Westinghouse Scholars or Intel Scholarship winners coming from my school district. The boards need to get a backbone and not give teachers everything they want. The teachers need to step up and start paying a large amount of their pensions and benefits. The taxpayers need to keep saying no until something is done to bring spending under control.
I agree that taxes on Long Island are way out of control, and it seems crazy that school budgets keep going up and up every year.
However, I also think it's really sad that if a budget doesn't get passed, instead of cutting the salary of the several-hundred-thousand-dollar-a-year administrators or really taking a hard look at how those dollars are being spent, the district will immediately cut music, art, afterschool activities, labs, AP classes, and all the other beneficial programs that make Long Island students well-rounded, talented, and academically competitive. So passing the budget in many ways really IS for the benefit of the children.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I was not under the impression that the high taxes were due to the school teachers getting everything they want...
When a teachers' contract is negotiated and agreed to, it is a lock.
Those numbers are all figured into the budget and if it fails, the money has to come from somewhere. So, they cut programs they know parents want and when they put it up again, the budget gets passed. My point is, if, when a contract comes up, any school board stands up and says that it is now time for teachers to pay their fair share, this problem would cease to exist or, at least, be minimized and the bulk of the budget would, actually, go to the children.
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hazeleyes33
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Re: Do You Think Taxes in LI will be like CA
Posted by Maathy317
Posted by JessInCA
Posted by Maathy317
You hit the nail right on the head. Unless and until school budgets are brought under control, our taxes will continue to rise with no end in sight. 67% of my taxes goes to the local school district with the majority of that being spent on salaries, pensions and benefits. That's obscene! However, people keep passing these ridiculous budgets because it's "for the benefit of the children". I have yet to see any Westinghouse Scholars or Intel Scholarship winners coming from my school district. The boards need to get a backbone and not give teachers everything they want. The teachers need to step up and start paying a large amount of their pensions and benefits. The taxpayers need to keep saying no until something is done to bring spending under control.
I agree that taxes on Long Island are way out of control, and it seems crazy that school budgets keep going up and up every year.
However, I also think it's really sad that if a budget doesn't get passed, instead of cutting the salary of the several-hundred-thousand-dollar-a-year administrators or really taking a hard look at how those dollars are being spent, the district will immediately cut music, art, afterschool activities, labs, AP classes, and all the other beneficial programs that make Long Island students well-rounded, talented, and academically competitive. So passing the budget in many ways really IS for the benefit of the children.
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I was not under the impression that the high taxes were due to the school teachers getting everything they want...
When a teachers' contract is negotiated and agreed to, it is a lock.
Those numbers are all figured into the budget and if it fails, the money has to come from somewhere. So, they cut programs they know parents want and when they put it up again, the budget gets passed. My point is, if, when a contract comes up, any school board stands up and says that it is now time for teachers to pay their fair share, this problem would cease to exist or, at least, be minimized and the bulk of the budget would, actually, go to the children.
While I don't think all teachers are great, I have to say that some of these teachers are just not paid enough to deal with kids like mine-lololol!!!
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| Posted 10/12/07 8:21 PM |
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Maathy317
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Re: Do You Think Taxes in LI will be like CA
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Posted by gregory99
The problem is the school system in LI. People are scared to tackle the issue, but there has to be a push for more centralized administrative services. Educators get very defensive, because on Long Island, teaching is big business. It is hard to justify the high costs of schools when superindentents are making more than 300k. The easy answer for everyone is just to pick up and leave LI.
As long as parents continue to approve school budgets, our taxes will go up. My taxes in 2003 were 7700 and now they are 9500 and I would say 90% of the increase is because of school budget increases. By next I am sure my tax bill will be over 10k.
Sachem's school tax is NOT going up this year-yeahhh!!!!
I live in Sachem. Hang on to that warm glow because next year they, certainly, will. The only reason they didn't go up this year is because of the extra money from the State. They, and all of the districts were warned, that this money will not be something they can count on in the future. So, while there was a break this year, it won't happen again.
I went to a PTA meeting with the Superintendent (who makes $200,000, not $300,000) and he has stated that they even have left over money for next year and they cut down the budget. While all we can do is wait and see if that is true, I saw the entire budget and what money went where and he did a really good on cutting down.
I will agree with you that this Superintendent is far better than that idiot Ruck. However, you can only cut back so much and for so long. Eventually, if the board does not negotiate a contract with the teachers' union that forces them to pay what they should, there will be nothing left to cut and taxes will have to go up to pay for it. I've been in this district a long time and I've seen how it's gotten to this point. Maybe I'm just cynical, but, I don't believe for one second that taxes are not going to go up, especially, now that the teachers' contract is coming up.
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hazeleyes33
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Posted by Maathy317
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Posted by Maathy317
Posted by hazeleyes33
Posted by gregory99
The problem is the school system in LI. People are scared to tackle the issue, but there has to be a push for more centralized administrative services. Educators get very defensive, because on Long Island, teaching is big business. It is hard to justify the high costs of schools when superindentents are making more than 300k. The easy answer for everyone is just to pick up and leave LI.
As long as parents continue to approve school budgets, our taxes will go up. My taxes in 2003 were 7700 and now they are 9500 and I would say 90% of the increase is because of school budget increases. By next I am sure my tax bill will be over 10k.
Sachem's school tax is NOT going up this year-yeahhh!!!!
I live in Sachem. Hang on to that warm glow because next year they, certainly, will. The only reason they didn't go up this year is because of the extra money from the State. They, and all of the districts were warned, that this money will not be something they can count on in the future. So, while there was a break this year, it won't happen again.
I went to a PTA meeting with the Superintendent (who makes $200,000, not $300,000) and he has stated that they even have left over money for next year and they cut down the budget. While all we can do is wait and see if that is true, I saw the entire budget and what money went where and he did a really good on cutting down.
I will agree with you that this Superintendent is far better than that idiot Ruck. However, you can only cut back so much and for so long. Eventually, if the board does not negotiate a contract with the teachers' union that forces them to pay what they should, there will be nothing left to cut and taxes will have to go up to pay for it. I've been in this district a long time and I've seen how it's gotten to this point. Maybe I'm just cynical, but, I don't believe for one second that taxes are not going to go up, especially, now that the teachers' contract is coming up.
I doubt they won't go up either but hopefully it won't be too much. I paid $5,300 (after star) this year so I am not too bad compared to everyone else.
I really like this superintendent too. He is young and very enthousiastic (sp?!).
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Re: Do You Think Taxes in LI will be like CA
Posted by SpiceGirl
If the government doesn't do something...LI is headed for lots of trouble say 10-15 years down the line. Forget about the home prices being unaffordable...with taxes always on the rise at about $500-$600 a year, people will be forced out.
This really scares me
I think we can find a house within our budget but I worry about what taxes will be like 30 years from now
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| Posted 10/12/07 11:00 PM |
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mommy2Two
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i definitely agree that our taxes are high due to the schools being the bulk of it. it is the same for the area i live. but i believe that my district isn't a GREAT-good school. i believe my district is good-okay school district. so why are my taxes so high?
although i have no input on the school system and voting on budget and etc...i do want to point out that i voted NO and so did everyone else i know, so how is it that it passed? who voted yes?!?? just can't win.
in a few years at this rate, i will be getting a job just to pay taxes alone.
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mommy2Two
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Posted by SpiceGirl
If the government doesn't do something...LI is headed for lots of trouble say 10-15 years down the line. Forget about the home prices being unaffordable...with taxes always on the rise at about $500-$600 a year, people will be forced out.
On another note, I am actually willing to pay the price for li homes. That doesn't bother me at all. It's the bigger house you buy, the more taxes are. so i live in a shoe.
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hazeleyes33
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Re: Do You Think Taxes in LI will be like CA
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Posted by SpiceGirl
If the government doesn't do something...LI is headed for lots of trouble say 10-15 years down the line. Forget about the home prices being unaffordable...with taxes always on the rise at about $500-$600 a year, people will be forced out.
This really scares me
I think we can find a house within our budget but I worry about what taxes will be like 30 years from now
Of course they will be much more but they only go up a little each year so we just budget for it each year. It stinks to have to put more money towards taxes but it goes with the territory of owing a home.
By my mom, people on the water were paying $400/year for 20 years. They finally evaluated the taxes and increased them to $4,000/year. They all had a fit but if they did it a little each year, it would have not made such a big deal.
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| Posted 10/13/07 8:34 AM |
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hazeleyes33
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Posted by mommy2Two
i definitely agree that our taxes are high due to the schools being the bulk of it. it is the same for the area i live. but i believe that my district isn't a GREAT-good school. i believe my district is good-okay school district. so why are my taxes so high?
although i have no input on the school system and voting on budget and etc...i do want to point out that i voted NO and so did everyone else i know, so how is it that it passed? who voted yes?!?? just can't win.
in a few years at this rate, i will be getting a job just to pay taxes alone.
Why do you not have an input in voting?
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| Posted 10/13/07 8:36 AM |
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Posted by hazeleyes33
Of course they will be much more but they only go up a little each year so we just budget for it each year. It stinks to have to put more money towards taxes but it goes with the territory of owing a home.
By my mom, people on the water were paying $400/year for 20 years. They finally evaluated the taxes and increased them to $4,000/year. They all had a fit but if they did it a little each year, it would have not made such a big deal.
well, one thing I've noticed is since prices have started to go down, the houses in our price range (asking price-wise) are starting to have taxes that are way out of our range. I've always seen houses w/ taxes that are high, but lately there seems to be a LOT more.
I know taxes go with owning a home, and that they increase, but when they are already so high, a "small" increase each year turns out to be pretty significant, especially to people who are just barely getting by on LI now. Didn't increasing the taxes from $400 to $4000 drive anyone out of that area or make their financial situation pretty tight? For example, I'm thinking of retired people who may not have a lot of income..that's a big difference. Also, $4000 is still very low!!
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| Posted 10/13/07 10:56 AM |
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hazeleyes33
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Posted by hazeleyes33
Of course they will be much more but they only go up a little each year so we just budget for it each year. It stinks to have to put more money towards taxes but it goes with the territory of owing a home.
By my mom, people on the water were paying $400/year for 20 years. They finally evaluated the taxes and increased them to $4,000/year. They all had a fit but if they did it a little each year, it would have not made such a big deal.
well, one thing I've noticed is since prices have started to go down, the houses in our price range (asking price-wise) are starting to have taxes that are way out of our range. I've always seen houses w/ taxes that are high, but lately there seems to be a LOT more.
I know taxes go with owning a home, and that they increase, but when they are already so high, a "small" increase each year turns out to be pretty significant, especially to people who are just barely getting by on LI now. Didn't increasing the taxes from $400 to $4000 drive anyone out of that area or make their financial situation pretty tight? For example, I'm thinking of retired people who may not have a lot of income..that's a big difference. Also, $4000 is still very low!!
This is in GA so that is high as my mom has an acre of land and a 2,500 square foot home and pays under $1,000/year! Most of these people could afford the taxes to go up as they all live on the water which means they are usually upper middle class people, alot of doctors, lawyers, etc.
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| Posted 10/13/07 11:39 AM |
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Message edited 10/13/2007 10:14:30 PM.
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Posted by hazeleyes33
This is in GA so that is high as my mom has an acre of land and a 2,500 square foot home and pays under $1,000/year! Most of these people could afford the taxes to go up as they all live on the water which means they are usually upper middle class people, alot of doctors, lawyers, etc.
ahh, I see what you are saying. I think I'm just learning how financially conservative I am and how that doesn't mesh well with living on LI!
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| Posted 10/13/07 11:40 AM |
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Posted by MrsD06
btw, I think it's oversimplifying things to say that teachers "need to pay their fair share". People get upset about programs that are truly "for the children" being cut b/c they see the abuse that goes on in districts and the hipocrisy of saying "we need to do this for the children".
obviously, you can look at the total budget amount, but in my experience, it's easy for districts to make it LOOK like they cut money from certain areas of the budget, and that they are saving money, but it's a numbers game and there's usually more going on than you see represented in the budget.
There is a LOT of waste going on in schools, from expanding administrative staff (Hi, I'm the Assistant to the Assistant Superintendant for school buses) to salaries/benefits of administrators and everyday waste/abuse on high levels that would make you sick to your stomach.
I don't think saying "teachers need to pay their fair share" is oversimplifying it at all. On the contrary, it brings the biggest problem right to the forefront. When the majority of any budget is for salaries, pensions and benefits and, because of this, programs are taken away when a budget is defeated, this is a HUGE problem that needs to be addressed.
You are right. There is a tremendous amount of waste on all levels and it is, definitely, a numbers game. The voters never know the whole story behind the budget. Figures are shifted constantly and more people are employed than are necessary. Taxpayers need relief and the boards need to step forward and start making that happen. They can begin when negotiating teachers' contracts. Teachers are so used to getting everything they want. They are not willing to compromise. My opinion, let them quit. Where are they going to go and make the money they do here? Nowhere. There are more than enough young teachers to replace them. It only takes one board to stand its' ground and not give in and the rest will follow. I'm waiting for that day. I won't be holding my breath.
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