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ANewDayHasCome
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Death by text
Michelle Carter. Is anybody following this case? So horrible and she absolutely has blood on her hands.
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Sparrow
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Death by text
I only skimmed an article about it when it first came out and it made me so sick that I couldn't read any more. I have to not think about it, just too upsetting. There are no words for how terrible, vile, disgraceful of a human being she is. My heart breaks for his family.
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| Posted 6/16/17 8:33 PM |
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ANewDayHasCome
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Death by text
It's on 48 hours now. It really is sickening. She is absolutely responsible.
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| Posted 6/16/17 8:50 PM |
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Disneygirl17
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Re: Death by text
She's a sociopath. "Just do it, like I don't know why you have done it yet." I don't know how she can think she did nothing wrong.
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| Posted 6/16/17 8:59 PM |
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mommy2be716
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Death by text
It was found that she was on new medications for her own problems, and the new drug she began taking soon before conrad's death was affecting her mental state as well. They had evidence showing that she was texting his phone for weeks following his death, and said her mental state should definitely be considered in the case. While I don't disagree with any of the above posters, I wonder if these points will be considered when sentencing her
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| Posted 6/16/17 9:11 PM |
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StaceyWill
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Death by text
It is so disturbing. Reading the texts is just heartbreaking.
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| Posted 6/16/17 9:16 PM |
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ANewDayHasCome
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Re: Death by text
Posted by mommy2be716
It was found that she was on new medications for her own problems, and the new drug she began taking soon before conrad's death was affecting her mental state as well. They had evidence showing that she was texting his phone for weeks following his death, and said her mental state should definitely be considered in the case. While I don't disagree with any of the above posters, I wonder if these points will be considered when sentencing her
I'm on meds too and there is no way that's normal. She wanted the attention of the grieving girlfriend. It's like a different version of Munchausen syndrome by proxy.
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| Posted 6/16/17 9:31 PM |
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gina409
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Re: Death by text
Posted by StaceyWill
It is so disturbing. Reading the texts is just heartbreaking.
This
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| Posted 6/16/17 10:08 PM |
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drpepper318
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Re: Death by text
So sad for that boy. What a terrible thing to do to someone. I'm glad she was found responsible.
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| Posted 6/16/17 10:38 PM |
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jame0801
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Death by text
Reading the texts he was so scared to do it and had so many reservations. She could have persuaded him not to do it instead she did the opposite. It is so sickening and gut wrenching I was in tears reading the texts :(
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| Posted 6/17/17 8:36 AM |
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mnmsoinlove
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Re: Death by text
She is very very sick. Why on earth would anyone do that to another human being? She absolutely could have persuaded him not to do it, got him help or told someone. She is responsible for his death without any doubt in my mind.
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| Posted 6/17/17 8:48 AM |
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RainyDay
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Re: Death by text
Posted by jame0801
Reading the texts he was so scared to do it and had so many reservations. She could have persuaded him not to do it instead she did the opposite. It is so sickening and gut wrenching I was in tears reading the texts :(
I couldn't believe how much she was pressuring him to do it. I feel for his family.
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| Posted 6/17/17 9:16 AM |
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ANewDayHasCome
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Re: Death by text
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by jame0801
Reading the texts he was so scared to do it and had so many reservations. She could have persuaded him not to do it instead she did the opposite. It is so sickening and gut wrenching I was in tears reading the texts :(
I couldn't believe how much she was pressuring him to do it. I feel for his family.
And she knew he was dead in his car and waiting 24 hours to say anything to his family.
She's seriously ill.
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| Posted 6/17/17 10:32 AM |
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lululu
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Re: Death by text
Posted by ANewDayHasCome
Posted by mommy2be716
It was found that she was on new medications for her own problems, and the new drug she began taking soon before conrad's death was affecting her mental state as well. They had evidence showing that she was texting his phone for weeks following his death, and said her mental state should definitely be considered in the case. While I don't disagree with any of the above posters, I wonder if these points will be considered when sentencing her
I'm on meds too and there is no way that's normal. She wanted the attention of the grieving girlfriend. It's like a different version of Munchausen syndrome by proxy.
I haven't read the whole thing yet and I agree there is no excuse, however, antidepressants in teenagers can have very adverse reactions. It is not the same as a grown adult taking medication. And all people react differently to different medications. Just because you don't have that type of reaction doesn't discredit the fact that others might.
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| Posted 6/17/17 12:23 PM |
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lululu
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Re: Death by text
Honestly I just read it all and the whole thing is so sick, but it's so weird - like it almost was as if she really thought she was helping him. I don't know if I am making sense. I think she is just one sick messed up kid. I think an inpatient psychiatric stay would do her some good before she goes to prison.
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| Posted 6/17/17 12:45 PM |
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Re: Death by text
I agree the story is very disturbing and she did not help by what she sent him, and should have called the police, his family someone. However, its important to understand no one person or event causes a person to die by suicide. He himself was very disturbed and lacked coping skills. This young man had a history of suicide attempts. While I agree she played a hand, she alone is not responsible for his death.
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| Posted 6/17/17 1:55 PM |
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ChilisWife
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Re: Death by text
Posted by hmm
I agree the story is very disturbing and she did not help by what she sent him, and should have called the police, his family someone. However, its important to understand no one person or event causes a person to die by suicide. He himself was very disturbed and lacked coping skills. This young man had a history of suicide attempts. While I agree she played a hand, she alone is not responsible for his death.
I agree. Such a horrible story and it seems like she had some serious mental illness herself. What she did is horrible and I definitely think she needs to face the appropriate consequences. However, I read somewhere that she could possibly be sentenced to up to 20 years in prison. To me, that is excessive considering she was not really the proximate cause of his suicide from a strictly legal perspective. If she had provided the car or helped him in some way I would say yes but I just can't imagine being jailed for 20 years based on what you say/text.
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| Posted 6/17/17 6:03 PM |
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lululu
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Re: Death by text
Posted by ChilisWife
Posted by hmm
I agree the story is very disturbing and she did not help by what she sent him, and should have called the police, his family someone. However, its important to understand no one person or event causes a person to die by suicide. He himself was very disturbed and lacked coping skills. This young man had a history of suicide attempts. While I agree she played a hand, she alone is not responsible for his death.
I agree. Such a horrible story and it seems like she had some serious mental illness herself. What she did is horrible and I definitely think she needs to face the appropriate consequences. However, I read somewhere that she could possibly be sentenced to up to 20 years in prison. To me, that is excessive considering she was not really the proximate cause of his suicide from a strictly legal perspective. If she had provided the car or helped him in some way I would say yes but I just can't imagine being jailed for 20 years based on what you say/text.
I read that she did tell him how to do it. I just feel like in her own sick state of mind she actually thought she was helping him because he had told her how depressed he was and how he really wanted to commit suicide. I think she thought she was giving him the courage he needed to do something he really wanted to do.
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| Posted 6/18/17 8:57 AM |
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NervousNell
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Re: Death by text
Posted by hmm
I agree the story is very disturbing and she did not help by what she sent him, and should have called the police, his family someone. However, its important to understand no one person or event causes a person to die by suicide. He himself was very disturbed and lacked coping skills. This young man had a history of suicide attempts. While I agree she played a hand, she alone is not responsible for his death.
I tend to agree with this.
What she did was wrong. Of course.
But a person doesn't just commit suicide because someone tells them to or encourages them to.
It's sad all around.....
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| Posted 6/19/17 9:03 AM |
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2boys1girl
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Death by text
If you read texts for months before she tried to get him to admit to help and he refused, she told him she was tired of hearing every day that he wanted to kill himself. She offered to speak to his parents, get him into a program etc. and he refused. His mother even found searches on his computer about him wanting to commit suicide and how.
It seemed like right before the suicide something switched in her and her texts sounded like she thought she was helping him do something he truly wanted and talked about on the daily.
She also was suffering from depressing and anxiety and was on medication. Two mentally sick children does not create a good scenario. I don't believe she is the definition of a criminal. I believe she is the definition of mentally ill and deserves treatment. This is where I believe our judicial system fails people.
If my ex husband called me every day right now and said he was going to jump off a bridge I would probably give him directions to the nearest one. Am I now responsible for his death if he goes and does it? This was definitely a game changer in the legal world.
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| Posted 6/19/17 12:06 PM |
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lululu
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Re: Death by text
Posted by 2boys1girl
If you read texts for months before she tried to get him to admit to help and he refused, she told him she was tired of hearing every day that he wanted to kill himself. She offered to speak to his parents, get him into a program etc. and he refused. His mother even found searches on his computer about him wanting to commit suicide and how.
It seemed like right before the suicide something switched in her and her texts sounded like she thought she was helping him do something he truly wanted and talked about on the daily.
She also was suffering from depressing and anxiety and was on medication. Two mentally sick children does not create a good scenario. I don't believe she is the definition of a criminal. I believe she is the definition of mentally ill and deserves treatment. This is where I believe our judicial system fails people.
If my ex husband called me every day right now and said he was going to jump off a bridge I would probably give him directions to the nearest one. Am I now responsible for his death if he goes and does it? This was definitely a game changer in the legal world.
I didn't know about the texts from prior months but this is consistent with what I said - it seemed like she thought she was trying to help him. I do think it was wrong that she encouraged him instead of alerting the authorities but that goes along with wanting to help him succeed at something he seemed so desperate to want to do. I think that the verdict will be overturned on appeal or that she will never do actual jail time.
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| Posted 6/19/17 12:52 PM |
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LIRascal
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Re: Death by text
Posted by ANewDayHasCome
Posted by mommy2be716
It was found that she was on new medications for her own problems, and the new drug she began taking soon before conrad's death was affecting her mental state as well. They had evidence showing that she was texting his phone for weeks following his death, and said her mental state should definitely be considered in the case. While I don't disagree with any of the above posters, I wonder if these points will be considered when sentencing her
I'm on meds too and there is no way that's normal. She wanted the attention of the grieving girlfriend. It's like a different version of Munchausen syndrome by proxy.
ITA, my thoughts exactly.
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| Posted 6/19/17 3:29 PM |
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Re: Death by text
Posted by 2boys1girl
If you read texts for months before she tried to get him to admit to help and he refused, she told him she was tired of hearing every day that he wanted to kill himself. She offered to speak to his parents, get him into a program etc. and he refused. His mother even found searches on his computer about him wanting to commit suicide and how.
It seemed like right before the suicide something switched in her and her texts sounded like she thought she was helping him do something he truly wanted and talked about on the daily.
She also was suffering from depressing and anxiety and was on medication. Two mentally sick children does not create a good scenario. I don't believe she is the definition of a criminal. I believe she is the definition of mentally ill and deserves treatment. This is where I believe our judicial system fails people.
If my ex husband called me every day right now and said he was going to jump off a bridge I would probably give him directions to the nearest one. Am I now responsible for his death if he goes and does it? This was definitely a game changer in the legal world.
I really don't think I agree that she should be held responsible especially if all the above is true. Unless she physically helped him this is on the boy who did it to himself.
Its actually a little scary that she is being held responsible and I agree with this post so if I am fighting with someone and they said I am going to kill myself and I say go ahead and do the world a favor and this goes on for hours and days I can see myself saying for them to stop talking shiit and go do it already. So what now I am responsible for that person doing. Don't get me wrong I would feel horrible, and would probably need years of counseling but I certainly don't think I should be brought up on charges.
IMO only you can be responsible for yourself. I get some may not be strong enough to handle certain situations but that's not anyone else's fault or responsibility.
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| Posted 6/19/17 3:42 PM |
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lululu
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Re: Death by text
Posted by blu6385
Posted by 2boys1girl
If you read texts for months before she tried to get him to admit to help and he refused, she told him she was tired of hearing every day that he wanted to kill himself. She offered to speak to his parents, get him into a program etc. and he refused. His mother even found searches on his computer about him wanting to commit suicide and how.
It seemed like right before the suicide something switched in her and her texts sounded like she thought she was helping him do something he truly wanted and talked about on the daily.
She also was suffering from depressing and anxiety and was on medication. Two mentally sick children does not create a good scenario. I don't believe she is the definition of a criminal. I believe she is the definition of mentally ill and deserves treatment. This is where I believe our judicial system fails people.
If my ex husband called me every day right now and said he was going to jump off a bridge I would probably give him directions to the nearest one. Am I now responsible for his death if he goes and does it? This was definitely a game changer in the legal world.
I really don't think I agree that she should be held responsible especially if all the above is true. Unless she physically helped him this is on the boy who did it to himself.
Its actually a little scary that she is being held responsible and I agree with this post so if I am fighting with someone and they said I am going to kill myself and I say go ahead and do the world a favor and this goes on for hours and days I can see myself saying for them to stop talking shiit and go do it already. So what now I am responsible for that person doing. Don't get me wrong I would feel horrible, and would probably need years of counseling but I certainly don't think I should be brought up on charges.
IMO only you can be responsible for yourself. I get some may not be strong enough to handle certain situations but that's not anyone else's fault or responsibility.
Has anybody been charged with something similar to this but where it was a bullying situation? I feel like I have a vague memory of someone taunting another teen over and over to kill themselves and the girl finally did it. I just can't remember if the bullying girl was charged with anything.
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| Posted 6/19/17 4:24 PM |
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ANewDayHasCome
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Re: Death by text
Posted by lululu
Posted by blu6385
Posted by 2boys1girl
If you read texts for months before she tried to get him to admit to help and he refused, she told him she was tired of hearing every day that he wanted to kill himself. She offered to speak to his parents, get him into a program etc. and he refused. His mother even found searches on his computer about him wanting to commit suicide and how.
It seemed like right before the suicide something switched in her and her texts sounded like she thought she was helping him do something he truly wanted and talked about on the daily.
She also was suffering from depressing and anxiety and was on medication. Two mentally sick children does not create a good scenario. I don't believe she is the definition of a criminal. I believe she is the definition of mentally ill and deserves treatment. This is where I believe our judicial system fails people.
If my ex husband called me every day right now and said he was going to jump off a bridge I would probably give him directions to the nearest one. Am I now responsible for his death if he goes and does it? This was definitely a game changer in the legal world.
I really don't think I agree that she should be held responsible especially if all the above is true. Unless she physically helped him this is on the boy who did it to himself.
Its actually a little scary that she is being held responsible and I agree with this post so if I am fighting with someone and they said I am going to kill myself and I say go ahead and do the world a favor and this goes on for hours and days I can see myself saying for them to stop talking shiit and go do it already. So what now I am responsible for that person doing. Don't get me wrong I would feel horrible, and would probably need years of counseling but I certainly don't think I should be brought up on charges.
IMO only you can be responsible for yourself. I get some may not be strong enough to handle certain situations but that's not anyone else's fault or responsibility.
Has anybody been charged with something similar to this but where it was a bullying situation? I feel like I have a vague memory of someone taunting another teen over and over to kill themselves and the girl finally did it. I just can't remember if the bullying girl was charged with anything.
Yes they have. There was a case in nj where a college student jumped off the gw bridge when he was bullied for being gay.
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