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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
Well the state guidance recommends certain populations being prioritized for in person learning. Younger grades, students with disabilities, English language learners, low income students.
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
I think this is a horrible idea.
I can go remote but, I am swamped in the spring and fall. During the spring I would work from 7am-10pm taking breaks to scream at my kids, teach my kids and eat. Maybe laundry.
It was horrible and stressful.
The summer has been better as the workload has been lower and I don't have to teach thankfully.
Ok. That’s for you. I know a lot of people who went remote and don’t want their kids to go back at all. That’s why I thought of that
Maybe word it differently. Those who are ok with having their kids go remote keep it that way leaving more room available to those who just can’t. I mean I can see the inconvenience with work but some people literally will have to lose Their jobs or they’ll be a lot of kids staying home alone.
Eta: has everyone lost the ability to be kind? “I think this is a horrible idea”
Not - no. That won’t work because A, B & C. Where has common courtesy and kindness gone? Serious question though
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KarenK122
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
I think this is a horrible idea.
I can go remote but, I am swamped in the spring and fall. During the spring I would work from 7am-10pm taking breaks to scream at my kids, teach my kids and eat. Maybe laundry.
It was horrible and stressful.
The summer has been better as the workload has been lower and I don't have to teach thankfully.
Ok. That’s for you. I know a lot of people who went remote and don’t want their kids to go back at all. That’s why I thought of that
Maybe word it differently. Those who are ok with having their kids go remote keep it that way leaving more room available to those who just can’t. I mean I can see the inconvenience with work but some people literally will have to lose Their jobs or they’ll be a lot of kids staying home alone.
I think that while it sounds like a good plan that it will not work. There would be a whole issue with FAPE. In no way can in person teaching compare to online teaching, especially in the younger grades. You would be giving the children that are in school an unfair advantage over the rest. Also, if you are going to allow two programs to run (one fully remote and one fully in school) you are going to have to double the amount of teachers unless they are going to allow videos to be one in the classroom which than goes against privacy laws. There is no good solution : (.
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LuckyStar
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
I think this is a horrible idea.
I can go remote but, I am swamped in the spring and fall. During the spring I would work from 7am-10pm taking breaks to scream at my kids, teach my kids and eat. Maybe laundry.
It was horrible and stressful.
The summer has been better as the workload has been lower and I don't have to teach thankfully.
Ok. That’s for you. I know a lot of people who went remote and don’t want their kids to go back at all. That’s why I thought of that
Maybe word it differently. Those who are ok with having their kids go remote keep it that way leaving more room available to those who just can’t. I mean I can see the inconvenience with work but some people literally will have to lose Their jobs or they’ll be a lot of kids staying home alone.
Eta: has everyone lost the ability to be kind? “I think this is a horrible idea”
Not - no. That won’t work because A, B & C. Where has common courtesy and kindness gone? Serious question though
I actually think it’s a great idea though you would have to get teachers to agree.
My workload is too demanding to do from home while helping my almost kindergartener with remote learning. I could physically work from home if I had to but it’s irrelevant because I spent 2.5 months holed up in my dining room. Either DH or I would make DD lunch and dinner depending on who wasn’t on a call. He and I frequently didn’t eat until 10pm.
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PhyllisNJoe
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by KarenK122
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
I think this is a horrible idea.
I can go remote but, I am swamped in the spring and fall. During the spring I would work from 7am-10pm taking breaks to scream at my kids, teach my kids and eat. Maybe laundry.
It was horrible and stressful.
The summer has been better as the workload has been lower and I don't have to teach thankfully.
Ok. That’s for you. I know a lot of people who went remote and don’t want their kids to go back at all. That’s why I thought of that
Maybe word it differently. Those who are ok with having their kids go remote keep it that way leaving more room available to those who just can’t. I mean I can see the inconvenience with work but some people literally will have to lose Their jobs or they’ll be a lot of kids staying home alone.
I think that while it sounds like a good plan that it will not work. There would be a whole issue with FAPE. In no way can in person teaching compare to online teaching, especially in the younger grades. You would be giving the children that are in school an unfair advantage over the rest. Also, if you are going to allow two programs to run (one fully remote and one fully in school) you are going to have to double the amount of teachers unless they are going to allow videos to be one in the classroom which than goes against privacy laws. There is no good solution : (.
Yea. you’re right. I assumed red tape would be a big issue but I didn’t even consider the disadvantage To those learning at home vs in the classroom.
I just feel so much for everyone dealing with this. Though, I’m not personally, some I Know and love Is and that feeling of helplessness is really weighing on everyone. And I can’t help but feel it with them. If it goes remote, How do you choose between working and providing for your family or your kid getting an education ? What do you do with your children? This virus has been going on here since March, I wish they had better plans for families by now for this situation.
I’m sorry :(
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Sash
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
I think this is a horrible idea.
I can go remote but, I am swamped in the spring and fall. During the spring I would work from 7am-10pm taking breaks to scream at my kids, teach my kids and eat. Maybe laundry.
It was horrible and stressful.
The summer has been better as the workload has been lower and I don't have to teach thankfully.
Ok. That’s for you. I know a lot of people who went remote and don’t want their kids to go back at all. That’s why I thought of that
Maybe word it differently. Those who are ok with having their kids go remote keep it that way leaving more room available to those who just can’t. I mean I can see the inconvenience with work but some people literally will have to lose Their jobs or they’ll be a lot of kids staying home alone.
Eta: has everyone lost the ability to be kind? “I think this is a horrible idea”
Not - no. That won’t work because A, B & C. Where has common courtesy and kindness gone? Serious question though
The problem is when you are remote, some kids still need your guidance. Such as my son who is 11. So you have to sacrifice productivity at work or your child's education, which, to me is so unfair.
However, I did think about what you said. Even though my son has focus issues and needs the extra time, I will sacrifice his spot for a kid who 100% needs to be in school because he/she has disabilities as well or parents who both need to physically go to work and can't afford childcare. It will suck and be stressful but I would do it.
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mrsrainbow
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by Sash
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
I think this is a horrible idea.
I can go remote but, I am swamped in the spring and fall. During the spring I would work from 7am-10pm taking breaks to scream at my kids, teach my kids and eat. Maybe laundry.
It was horrible and stressful.
The summer has been better as the workload has been lower and I don't have to teach thankfully.
Ok. That’s for you. I know a lot of people who went remote and don’t want their kids to go back at all. That’s why I thought of that
Maybe word it differently. Those who are ok with having their kids go remote keep it that way leaving more room available to those who just can’t. I mean I can see the inconvenience with work but some people literally will have to lose Their jobs or they’ll be a lot of kids staying home alone.
Eta: has everyone lost the ability to be kind? “I think this is a horrible idea”
Not - no. That won’t work because A, B & C. Where has common courtesy and kindness gone? Serious question though
The problem is when you are remote, some kids still need your guidance. Such as my son who is 11. So you have to sacrifice productivity at work or your child's education, which, to me is so unfair.
However, I did think about what you said. Even though my son has focus issues and needs the extra time, I will sacrifice his spot for a kid who 100% needs to be in school because he/she has disabilities as well or parents who both need to physically go to work and can't afford childcare. It will suck and be stressful but I would do it.
That's the prevailing thought behind what a lot of progressive parents are thinking. And it's completely unfair - and the government and corporations and politicians who have sucked the money out of education and kept salaries down so people can't afford to make equitable choices.
If someone has a luxury or privelige to afford staying home/private teaching or childcare, would you still send your child to school when that spot could go to someone in dire need? It's gonna be a huge ethical debate.
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valentinesbaby
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
Then you are back to trying to work and be your kids teacher. I have no clue how parents have and will do that. My kid is older and I helped after work and I was exhausted by then and couldn’t imagine how I would do that while working at the same time.
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JennP
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
My school was tossing around something like this. Opting in or out.
We're an small alternative high school in Brooklyn with a somewhat higher staff student ratio than usual so we might have been able to make the teacher portion work.
I don't recall what specifically took it off the table but I really like the idea in theory.
This would entail too many logistical issues on the island though. I.e. a Brooklyn high school doesn't have to worry about transportation.
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ali120206
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
I think this is a horrible idea.
I can go remote but, I am swamped in the spring and fall. During the spring I would work from 7am-10pm taking breaks to scream at my kids, teach my kids and eat. Maybe laundry.
It was horrible and stressful.
The summer has been better as the workload has been lower and I don't have to teach thankfully.
Ok. That’s for you. I know a lot of people who went remote and don’t want their kids to go back at all. That’s why I thought of that
Maybe word it differently. Those who are ok with having their kids go remote keep it that way leaving more room available to those who just can’t. I mean I can see the inconvenience with work but some people literally will have to lose Their jobs or they’ll be a lot of kids staying home alone.
Eta: has everyone lost the ability to be kind? “I think this is a horrible idea”
Not - no. That won’t work because A, B & C. Where has common courtesy and kindness gone? Serious question though
I am sorry - I didn't mean to be unkind. It was a horrible experience for my family so I really don't think that since I can stay home my kids should too. I am seeing now the mental toll this has taken on them too. It's just too much.
But, in all honesty there isn't any good solution at this point.
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valentinesbaby
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
I think this is a horrible idea.
I can go remote but, I am swamped in the spring and fall. During the spring I would work from 7am-10pm taking breaks to scream at my kids, teach my kids and eat. Maybe laundry.
It was horrible and stressful.
The summer has been better as the workload has been lower and I don't have to teach thankfully.
Ok. That’s for you. I know a lot of people who went remote and don’t want their kids to go back at all. That’s why I thought of that
Maybe word it differently. Those who are ok with having their kids go remote keep it that way leaving more room available to those who just can’t. I mean I can see the inconvenience with work but some people literally will have to lose Their jobs or they’ll be a lot of kids staying home alone.
Eta: has everyone lost the ability to be kind? “I think this is a horrible idea”
Not - no. That won’t work because A, B & C. Where has common courtesy and kindness gone? Serious question though
I am sorry - I didn't mean to be unkind. It was a horrible experience for my family so I really don't think that since I can stay home my kids should too. I am seeing now the mental toll this has taken on them too. It's just too much.
But, in all honesty there isn't any good solution at this point.
I think it was horrible for most and probably almost all families.
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PhyllisNJoe
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
I think this is a horrible idea.
I can go remote but, I am swamped in the spring and fall. During the spring I would work from 7am-10pm taking breaks to scream at my kids, teach my kids and eat. Maybe laundry.
It was horrible and stressful.
The summer has been better as the workload has been lower and I don't have to teach thankfully.
Ok. That’s for you. I know a lot of people who went remote and don’t want their kids to go back at all. That’s why I thought of that
Maybe word it differently. Those who are ok with having their kids go remote keep it that way leaving more room available to those who just can’t. I mean I can see the inconvenience with work but some people literally will have to lose Their jobs or they’ll be a lot of kids staying home alone.
Eta: has everyone lost the ability to be kind? “I think this is a horrible idea”
Not - no. That won’t work because A, B & C. Where has common courtesy and kindness gone? Serious question though
I am sorry - I didn't mean to be unkind. It was a horrible experience for my family so I really don't think that since I can stay home my kids should too. I am seeing now the mental toll this has taken on them too. It's just too much.
But, in all honesty there isn't any good solution at this point.
Thank you.
I really hope there is a solution that works for most. It’s such a ****** situation
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PhyllisNJoe
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by valentinesbaby
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
I think this is a horrible idea.
I can go remote but, I am swamped in the spring and fall. During the spring I would work from 7am-10pm taking breaks to scream at my kids, teach my kids and eat. Maybe laundry.
It was horrible and stressful.
The summer has been better as the workload has been lower and I don't have to teach thankfully.
Ok. That’s for you. I know a lot of people who went remote and don’t want their kids to go back at all. That’s why I thought of that
Maybe word it differently. Those who are ok with having their kids go remote keep it that way leaving more room available to those who just can’t. I mean I can see the inconvenience with work but some people literally will have to lose Their jobs or they’ll be a lot of kids staying home alone.
Eta: has everyone lost the ability to be kind? “I think this is a horrible idea”
Not - no. That won’t work because A, B & C. Where has common courtesy and kindness gone? Serious question though
I am sorry - I didn't mean to be unkind. It was a horrible experience for my family so I really don't think that since I can stay home my kids should too. I am seeing now the mental toll this has taken on them too. It's just too much.
But, in all honesty there isn't any good solution at this point.
I think it was horrible for most and probably almost all families.
I wonder if you talk to people like this IRL? I’m gonna go with no
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
According to the patch, there has been a surge in new cases in Suffolk County from July 4th mingling. Curious to see how high it will get in the next few days...
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PitterPatter11
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by BaysideForever
According to the patch, there has been a surge in new cases in Suffolk County from July 4th mingling. Curious to see how high it will get in the next few days...
Same thing near me in Albany.
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valentinesbaby
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by valentinesbaby
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
I think this is a horrible idea.
I can go remote but, I am swamped in the spring and fall. During the spring I would work from 7am-10pm taking breaks to scream at my kids, teach my kids and eat. Maybe laundry.
It was horrible and stressful.
The summer has been better as the workload has been lower and I don't have to teach thankfully.
Ok. That’s for you. I know a lot of people who went remote and don’t want their kids to go back at all. That’s why I thought of that
Maybe word it differently. Those who are ok with having their kids go remote keep it that way leaving more room available to those who just can’t. I mean I can see the inconvenience with work but some people literally will have to lose Their jobs or they’ll be a lot of kids staying home alone.
Eta: has everyone lost the ability to be kind? “I think this is a horrible idea”
Not - no. That won’t work because A, B & C. Where has common courtesy and kindness gone? Serious question though
I am sorry - I didn't mean to be unkind. It was a horrible experience for my family so I really don't think that since I can stay home my kids should too. I am seeing now the mental toll this has taken on them too. It's just too much.
But, in all honesty there isn't any good solution at this point.
I think it was horrible for most and probably almost all families.
I wonder if you talk to people like this IRL? I’m gonna go with no
Are you upset that she said it was horrible? It WAS. I have 2 kids and IME from elementary to college it just did not work.
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PhyllisNJoe
My Box Is Broken
Member since 6/11 9145 total posts
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by valentinesbaby
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by valentinesbaby
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
I think this is a horrible idea.
I can go remote but, I am swamped in the spring and fall. During the spring I would work from 7am-10pm taking breaks to scream at my kids, teach my kids and eat. Maybe laundry.
It was horrible and stressful.
The summer has been better as the workload has been lower and I don't have to teach thankfully.
Ok. That’s for you. I know a lot of people who went remote and don’t want their kids to go back at all. That’s why I thought of that
Maybe word it differently. Those who are ok with having their kids go remote keep it that way leaving more room available to those who just can’t. I mean I can see the inconvenience with work but some people literally will have to lose Their jobs or they’ll be a lot of kids staying home alone.
Eta: has everyone lost the ability to be kind? “I think this is a horrible idea”
Not - no. That won’t work because A, B & C. Where has common courtesy and kindness gone? Serious question though
I am sorry - I didn't mean to be unkind. It was a horrible experience for my family so I really don't think that since I can stay home my kids should too. I am seeing now the mental toll this has taken on them too. It's just too much.
But, in all honesty there isn't any good solution at this point.
I think it was horrible for most and probably almost all families.
I wonder if you talk to people like this IRL? I’m gonna go with no
Are you upset that she said it was horrible? It WAS. I have 2 kids and IME from elementary to college it just did not work.
I was / am annoyed that people have forgotten to be kind to each other. if I think something is HORRIBLE , I don’t say exactly that because that’s an asshole remark to make to someone who is trying to be helpful. She and I are good. My comment was to you. Again.. pretty sure your reply would be different if we were face to face. Seems some people forget manners when speaking from behind a screen.
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valentinesbaby
LIF Adult
Member since 2/20 900 total posts
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by valentinesbaby
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by valentinesbaby
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
I think this is a horrible idea.
I can go remote but, I am swamped in the spring and fall. During the spring I would work from 7am-10pm taking breaks to scream at my kids, teach my kids and eat. Maybe laundry.
It was horrible and stressful.
The summer has been better as the workload has been lower and I don't have to teach thankfully.
Ok. That’s for you. I know a lot of people who went remote and don’t want their kids to go back at all. That’s why I thought of that
Maybe word it differently. Those who are ok with having their kids go remote keep it that way leaving more room available to those who just can’t. I mean I can see the inconvenience with work but some people literally will have to lose Their jobs or they’ll be a lot of kids staying home alone.
Eta: has everyone lost the ability to be kind? “I think this is a horrible idea”
Not - no. That won’t work because A, B & C. Where has common courtesy and kindness gone? Serious question though
I am sorry - I didn't mean to be unkind. It was a horrible experience for my family so I really don't think that since I can stay home my kids should too. I am seeing now the mental toll this has taken on them too. It's just too much.
But, in all honesty there isn't any good solution at this point.
I think it was horrible for most and probably almost all families.
I wonder if you talk to people like this IRL? I’m gonna go with no
Are you upset that she said it was horrible? It WAS. I have 2 kids and IME from elementary to college it just did not work.
I was / am annoyed that people have forgotten to be kind to each other. if I think something is HORRIBLE , I don’t say exactly that because that’s an asshole remark to make to someone who is trying to be helpful. She and I are good. My comment was to you. Again.. pretty sure your reply would be different if we were face to face. Seems some people forget manners when speaking from behind a screen.
Would I say an idea is horrible? Absolutely but I would continue with saying why and my experiences.
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| Posted 7/14/20 11:21 AM |
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PhyllisNJoe
My Box Is Broken
Member since 6/11 9145 total posts
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Phyllis
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by valentinesbaby
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by valentinesbaby
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by valentinesbaby
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
I think this is a horrible idea.
I can go remote but, I am swamped in the spring and fall. During the spring I would work from 7am-10pm taking breaks to scream at my kids, teach my kids and eat. Maybe laundry.
It was horrible and stressful.
The summer has been better as the workload has been lower and I don't have to teach thankfully.
Ok. That’s for you. I know a lot of people who went remote and don’t want their kids to go back at all. That’s why I thought of that
Maybe word it differently. Those who are ok with having their kids go remote keep it that way leaving more room available to those who just can’t. I mean I can see the inconvenience with work but some people literally will have to lose Their jobs or they’ll be a lot of kids staying home alone.
Eta: has everyone lost the ability to be kind? “I think this is a horrible idea”
Not - no. That won’t work because A, B & C. Where has common courtesy and kindness gone? Serious question though
I am sorry - I didn't mean to be unkind. It was a horrible experience for my family so I really don't think that since I can stay home my kids should too. I am seeing now the mental toll this has taken on them too. It's just too much.
But, in all honesty there isn't any good solution at this point.
I think it was horrible for most and probably almost all families.
I wonder if you talk to people like this IRL? I’m gonna go with no
Are you upset that she said it was horrible? It WAS. I have 2 kids and IME from elementary to college it just did not work.
I was / am annoyed that people have forgotten to be kind to each other. if I think something is HORRIBLE , I don’t say exactly that because that’s an asshole remark to make to someone who is trying to be helpful. She and I are good. My comment was to you. Again.. pretty sure your reply would be different if we were face to face. Seems some people forget manners when speaking from behind a screen.
Would I say an idea is horrible? Absolutely but I would continue with saying why and my experiences.
“ I think it was horrible for most and probably almost all families.”
So if you and I were standing across from one another and I mentioned what I said here, that would be your reply?
I’m gonna go with a big fat no. Unless you’re naturally rude , but in my experience with LIF, people are very different IRL as opposed to here.
Doesn’t matter I guess. Just makes me feel less bad when people tear into you sometimes here.
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| Posted 7/14/20 11:27 AM |
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soontobemommyof2
My boys...my everything <3
Member since 4/15 3635 total posts
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
I think this is a horrible idea.
I can go remote but, I am swamped in the spring and fall. During the spring I would work from 7am-10pm taking breaks to scream at my kids, teach my kids and eat. Maybe laundry.
It was horrible and stressful.
The summer has been better as the workload has been lower and I don't have to teach thankfully.
Ok. That’s for you. I know a lot of people who went remote and don’t want their kids to go back at all. That’s why I thought of that
Maybe word it differently. Those who are ok with having their kids go remote keep it that way leaving more room available to those who just can’t. I mean I can see the inconvenience with work but some people literally will have to lose Their jobs or they’ll be a lot of kids staying home alone.
Eta: has everyone lost the ability to be kind? “I think this is a horrible idea”
Not - no. That won’t work because A, B & C. Where has common courtesy and kindness gone? Serious question though
I am sorry - I didn't mean to be unkind. It was a horrible experience for my family so I really don't think that since I can stay home my kids should too. I am seeing now the mental toll this has taken on them too. It's just too much.
But, in all honesty there isn't any good solution at this point.
I know exactly what u mean. Last June when mandated vaccines became law with the abolition of religious exemptions, I knew I had to prepare very quickly to start homeschooling in Sep. Well those 3 months were not sufficient at all. I often felt frustrated, full of anxiety, worried, often questioned myself if I was doing enough, resentful with the system because we were put in a position we didn’t wanna be to begin with. Even though all I heard were successful stories from families that had actually homeschooled, it was a very, very difficult time to navigate with my family (and it somewhat still is). I think I felt that way cause homeschool wasn’t something we wanted to do. So I really feel for all these families that will be going through this because none of it is fair.
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| Posted 7/14/20 11:53 AM |
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mommy2be716
LIF Adult
Member since 1/16 2921 total posts
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
I think this is a horrible idea.
I can go remote but, I am swamped in the spring and fall. During the spring I would work from 7am-10pm taking breaks to scream at my kids, teach my kids and eat. Maybe laundry.
It was horrible and stressful.
The summer has been better as the workload has been lower and I don't have to teach thankfully.
Ok. That’s for you. I know a lot of people who went remote and don’t want their kids to go back at all. That’s why I thought of that
Maybe word it differently. Those who are ok with having their kids go remote keep it that way leaving more room available to those who just can’t. I mean I can see the inconvenience with work but some people literally will have to lose Their jobs or they’ll be a lot of kids staying home alone.
Eta: has everyone lost the ability to be kind? “I think this is a horrible idea”
Not - no. That won’t work because A, B & C. Where has common courtesy and kindness gone? Serious question though
I actually think it’s a great idea though you would have to get teachers to agree.
My workload is too demanding to do from home while helping my almost kindergartener with remote learning. I could physically work from home if I had to but it’s irrelevant because I spent 2.5 months holed up in my dining room. Either DH or I would make DD lunch and dinner depending on who wasn’t on a call. He and I frequently didn’t eat until 10pm.
It is a great idea, and the DOE is doing this. Parents are being given the option to keep kids home if they don't want them going in. They are considered "group D: FT remote students"... My union rep just emailed it out to us last night. We are choosing the option to have a group A and a group B. Group A comes Mon, Tues Wed one week, Group B comes Thurs/Fri. The Next week, Group B comes Mon, Thurs, Fri and Group A comes Tues and Wed. Group C is full-time remote. We are working out how to film ourselves while in school to post for the groups at home that day or have some sort of plan in place to support the learning at home.
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valentinesbaby
LIF Adult
Member since 2/20 900 total posts
Name:
Valentines
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by valentinesbaby
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by valentinesbaby
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by valentinesbaby
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
I think this is a horrible idea.
I can go remote but, I am swamped in the spring and fall. During the spring I would work from 7am-10pm taking breaks to scream at my kids, teach my kids and eat. Maybe laundry.
It was horrible and stressful.
The summer has been better as the workload has been lower and I don't have to teach thankfully.
Ok. That’s for you. I know a lot of people who went remote and don’t want their kids to go back at all. That’s why I thought of that
Maybe word it differently. Those who are ok with having their kids go remote keep it that way leaving more room available to those who just can’t. I mean I can see the inconvenience with work but some people literally will have to lose Their jobs or they’ll be a lot of kids staying home alone.
Eta: has everyone lost the ability to be kind? “I think this is a horrible idea”
Not - no. That won’t work because A, B & C. Where has common courtesy and kindness gone? Serious question though
I am sorry - I didn't mean to be unkind. It was a horrible experience for my family so I really don't think that since I can stay home my kids should too. I am seeing now the mental toll this has taken on them too. It's just too much.
But, in all honesty there isn't any good solution at this point.
I think it was horrible for most and probably almost all families.
I wonder if you talk to people like this IRL? I’m gonna go with no
Are you upset that she said it was horrible? It WAS. I have 2 kids and IME from elementary to college it just did not work.
I was / am annoyed that people have forgotten to be kind to each other. if I think something is HORRIBLE , I don’t say exactly that because that’s an asshole remark to make to someone who is trying to be helpful. She and I are good. My comment was to you. Again.. pretty sure your reply would be different if we were face to face. Seems some people forget manners when speaking from behind a screen.
Would I say an idea is horrible? Absolutely but I would continue with saying why and my experiences.
“ I think it was horrible for most and probably almost all families.”
So if you and I were standing across from one another and I mentioned what I said here, that would be your reply?
I’m gonna go with a big fat no. Unless you’re naturally rude , but in my experience with LIF, people are very different IRL as opposed to here.
Doesn’t matter I guess. Just makes me feel less bad when people tear into you sometimes here.
I honestly don’t think anyone teared into you with that comment but it sounds like you do. I have heard a lot worse, especially in a work setting so things like that don’t bother me.
Yes, I would say my opinion, BUT, again, I would give my reasons.
There are so many different scenarios with families and there is no cut and dry but having gone through this and talking with all different families, the staying home thing is not going to work for so many reasons. Unfortunately this might be our reality and I honestly feel horrible for families who have to figure this out. I know you don’t have kids and mine are older so it doesn’t have as much of an impact on us but I have no clue what I would have done years ago.
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JennP
LIF Adult
Member since 10/06 3986 total posts
Name:
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by valentinesbaby
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
I think this is a horrible idea.
I can go remote but, I am swamped in the spring and fall. During the spring I would work from 7am-10pm taking breaks to scream at my kids, teach my kids and eat. Maybe laundry.
It was horrible and stressful.
The summer has been better as the workload has been lower and I don't have to teach thankfully.
Ok. That’s for you. I know a lot of people who went remote and don’t want their kids to go back at all. That’s why I thought of that
Maybe word it differently. Those who are ok with having their kids go remote keep it that way leaving more room available to those who just can’t. I mean I can see the inconvenience with work but some people literally will have to lose Their jobs or they’ll be a lot of kids staying home alone.
Eta: has everyone lost the ability to be kind? “I think this is a horrible idea”
Not - no. That won’t work because A, B & C. Where has common courtesy and kindness gone? Serious question though
I am sorry - I didn't mean to be unkind. It was a horrible experience for my family so I really don't think that since I can stay home my kids should too. I am seeing now the mental toll this has taken on them too. It's just too much.
But, in all honesty there isn't any good solution at this point.
I think it was horrible for most and probably almost all families.
I wonder if you talk to people like this IRL? I’m gonna go with no
Wow, I read this so differently.
I thought she was agreeing with ali that the experience was horrible for most families. NOT that your idea was horrible.
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| Posted 7/14/20 2:36 PM |
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Bonsai
LIF Toddler
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by JennP
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by valentinesbaby
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
I think this is a horrible idea.
I can go remote but, I am swamped in the spring and fall. During the spring I would work from 7am-10pm taking breaks to scream at my kids, teach my kids and eat. Maybe laundry.
It was horrible and stressful.
The summer has been better as the workload has been lower and I don't have to teach thankfully.
Ok. That’s for you. I know a lot of people who went remote and don’t want their kids to go back at all. That’s why I thought of that
Maybe word it differently. Those who are ok with having their kids go remote keep it that way leaving more room available to those who just can’t. I mean I can see the inconvenience with work but some people literally will have to lose Their jobs or they’ll be a lot of kids staying home alone.
Eta: has everyone lost the ability to be kind? “I think this is a horrible idea”
Not - no. That won’t work because A, B & C. Where has common courtesy and kindness gone? Serious question though
I am sorry - I didn't mean to be unkind. It was a horrible experience for my family so I really don't think that since I can stay home my kids should too. I am seeing now the mental toll this has taken on them too. It's just too much.
But, in all honesty there isn't any good solution at this point.
I think it was horrible for most and probably almost all families.
I wonder if you talk to people like this IRL? I’m gonna go with no
Wow, I read this so differently.
I thought she was agreeing with ali that the experience was horrible for most families. NOT that your idea was horrible.
Same.
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| Posted 7/14/20 5:32 PM |
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LMichele
LIF Adolescent
Member since 6/11 573 total posts
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Re: Cuomo says he wants schools to reopen in September, and that is currently the plan
Posted by mommy2be716
Posted by LuckyStar
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
Posted by ali120206
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
After seeing so much back and forth with who can work remotely to stay home and who just can’t and will be screwed ...Here’s a question that may be completely unrealistic - but running this by parents and teachers.
How about those who can go remote do that so the school has the capacity for the children who’s parents cannot? I know it sounds so simple but know there are snags. Obviously for lower income communities , usually both parents work, but maybe some busing in that instance to schools that have more room because one parent stays home or goes remote? Probably just wishful thinking because of district red tape but I feel like that would help families out so much and isn’t that what they should be considering anyway? The best way to get kids educated and allow families to still function ?
I think this is a horrible idea.
I can go remote but, I am swamped in the spring and fall. During the spring I would work from 7am-10pm taking breaks to scream at my kids, teach my kids and eat. Maybe laundry.
It was horrible and stressful.
The summer has been better as the workload has been lower and I don't have to teach thankfully.
Ok. That’s for you. I know a lot of people who went remote and don’t want their kids to go back at all. That’s why I thought of that
Maybe word it differently. Those who are ok with having their kids go remote keep it that way leaving more room available to those who just can’t. I mean I can see the inconvenience with work but some people literally will have to lose Their jobs or they’ll be a lot of kids staying home alone.
Eta: has everyone lost the ability to be kind? “I think this is a horrible idea”
Not - no. That won’t work because A, B & C. Where has common courtesy and kindness gone? Serious question though
I actually think it’s a great idea though you would have to get teachers to agree.
My workload is too demanding to do from home while helping my almost kindergartener with remote learning. I could physically work from home if I had to but it’s irrelevant because I spent 2.5 months holed up in my dining room. Either DH or I would make DD lunch and dinner depending on who wasn’t on a call. He and I frequently didn’t eat until 10pm.
It is a great idea, and the DOE is doing this. Parents are being given the option to keep kids home if they don't want them going in. They are considered "group D: FT remote students"... My union rep just emailed it out to us last night. We are choosing the option to have a group A and a group B. Group A comes Mon, Tues Wed one week, Group B comes Thurs/Fri. The Next week, Group B comes Mon, Thurs, Fri and Group A comes Tues and Wed. Group C is full-time remote. We are working out how to film ourselves while in school to post for the groups at home that day or have some sort of plan in place to support the learning at home.
So, as a teacher also, if we can’t be fully in person then I’ll take a hybrid. I feel like I can really target the needs of the students in a smaller group, especially coming off of so much lost learning during this time being remote.
And I’m not a parent, but I can only imagine the logistical nightmare a rotating schedule would cause for parents. How do you find childcare when the days it would be needed are not consistent each week?
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