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NervousNell
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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by Sash

Posted by NervousNell

I actually was just reading something about how the Spanish Flu never really went away. It just mutated into a less deadly strain of the flu.

"What’s even more remarkable about the 1918 flu, say infectious disease experts, is that it never really went away. After infecting an estimated 500 million people worldwide in 1918 and 1919 (a third of the global population), the H1N1 strain that caused the Spanish flu receded into the background and stuck around as the regular seasonal flu."


So yes, the goal with any of these viruses, even ones that cause deadly pandemics is for them to weaken over time.



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Posted 12/28/21 10:28 AM
 
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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by PitterPatter11

People on this thread make it seem like no one has Covid currently and that testing is ridiculous. I have barely known anyone with Covid in the last two years. In the last two weeks, I have personally at least a DOZEN of people with Covid. This doesn’t include all the people on my FB feed who have posted that they have Covid.



What is your point? Because you didn’t know anyone who had Covid before this surge, it didn’t happen? Because all your family who tested was symptomatic, no one is testing out of nonsense and overwhelming testing sites? Or is your point to give opposite examples of what is actually happening! It’s on the news, no one is making this up.

Also maybe your circle was the one who quarantined and isolated longer than usual, so it would make sense your little bubble is contracting Covid now. Especially since the vaccine only helps with symptoms and side effects. It’s really not rocket science. So you are seeing it now but doesn’t mean people haven’t been getting Covid in droves since 2020.

It happened last fall, it happened this fall in 2021 and guess what? Despite your little sample set of examples it will happen again next fall.

I know many people who got Covid last year (unvaccinated) and this year many of my vaccinated family and friends are getting it.

Message edited 12/28/2021 10:34:24 AM.

Posted 12/28/21 10:33 AM
 

Sash
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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by Sash

Posted by NervousNell

I actually was just reading something about how the Spanish Flu never really went away. It just mutated into a less deadly strain of the flu.

"What’s even more remarkable about the 1918 flu, say infectious disease experts, is that it never really went away. After infecting an estimated 500 million people worldwide in 1918 and 1919 (a third of the global population), the H1N1 strain that caused the Spanish flu receded into the background and stuck around as the regular seasonal flu."


So yes, the goal with any of these viruses, even ones that cause deadly pandemics is for them to weaken over time.



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Posted 12/28/21 10:35 AM
 

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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by Sash

Posted by PitterPatter11

People on this thread make it seem like no one has Covid currently and that testing is ridiculous. I have barely known anyone with Covid in the last two years. In the last two weeks, I have personally at least a DOZEN of people with Covid. This doesn’t include all the people on my FB feed who have posted that they have Covid.



What is your point? Because you didn’t know anyone who had Covid before this surge, it didn’t happen? Because all your family who tested was symptomatic, no one is testing out of nonsense and overwhelming testing sites? Or is your point to give opposite examples of what is actually happening! It’s on the news, no one is making this up.

Also maybe your circle was the one who quarantined and isolated longer than usual, so it would make sense your little bubble is contracting Covid now. Especially since the vaccine only helps with symptoms and side effects. It’s really not rocket science. So you are seeing it now but doesn’t mean people haven’t been getting Covid in droves since 2020.

It happened last fall, it happened this fall in 2021 and guess what? Despite your little sample set of examples it will happen again next fall.

I know many people who got Covid last year (unvaccinated) and this year many of my vaccinated family and friends are getting it.




Funny how 99% of the people I know with covid now or just had it were vaccinated. But you know, it's those selfish unvaccinated people.

Posted 12/28/21 10:38 AM
 

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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by NervousNell

Well if it's evolving into something that feels like allergies or a cold and lasts a day or 2 than disappears than that's a good thing



Exactly. That is the goal that this virus is nothing more than a cold and that is what it appears to be with MOST cases now.




The goal???? How is this a goal? And what exactly have you don’t to achieve this goal?



Since viruses never go away, yes, the goal is to have them become milder as time goes on so that you can live with them and walk amongst them and live a normal life. Like we did prior to 2020.
The goal can't be to have Covid not exist. Because that will never happen.
Even the vaccines don't stop the spread or stop people from getting it
So isn't the goal for it to be manageable?
If not, than what IS the goal?



Clearly the goal is to continue living in fear and cause panic and mass hysteria every Covid/Flu season.

Posted 12/28/21 10:41 AM
 

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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by Sash

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by NervousNell

Well if it's evolving into something that feels like allergies or a cold and lasts a day or 2 than disappears than that's a good thing



Exactly. That is the goal that this virus is nothing more than a cold and that is what it appears to be with MOST cases now.




The goal???? How is this a goal? And what exactly have you don’t to achieve this goal?



Since viruses never go away, yes, the goal is to have them become milder as time goes on so that you can live with them and walk amongst them and live a normal life. Like we did prior to 2020.
The goal can't be to have Covid not exist. Because that will never happen.
Even the vaccines don't stop the spread or stop people from getting it
So isn't the goal for it to be manageable?
If not, than what IS the goal?



Clearly the goal is to continue living in fear and cause panic and mass hysteria every Covid/Flu season.



That is what it seems to be happening, on this board and elsewhere. Sad as anxiety only enhances your immune system to break down and cause you to get sick.

Posted 12/28/21 10:47 AM
 

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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by Sash

Posted by PitterPatter11

People on this thread make it seem like no one has Covid currently and that testing is ridiculous. I have barely known anyone with Covid in the last two years. In the last two weeks, I have personally at least a DOZEN of people with Covid. This doesn’t include all the people on my FB feed who have posted that they have Covid.



What is your point? Because you didn’t know anyone who had Covid before this surge, it didn’t happen? Because all your family who tested was symptomatic, no one is testing out of nonsense and overwhelming testing sites? Or is your point to give opposite examples of what is actually happening! It’s on the news, no one is making this up.

Also maybe your circle was the one who quarantined and isolated longer than usual, so it would make sense your little bubble is contracting Covid now. Especially since the vaccine only helps with symptoms and side effects. It’s really not rocket science. So you are seeing it now but doesn’t mean people haven’t been getting Covid in droves since 2020.

It happened last fall, it happened this fall in 2021 and guess what? Despite your little sample set of examples it will happen again next fall.

I know many people who got Covid last year (unvaccinated) and this year many of my vaccinated family and friends are getting it.



I do know people who got it before now but not in this magnitude in a very short period of time like 3 weeks. One of them being my son this fall so I’m not in some little bubble. Everyone in my family is an essential worker - nurses, cops, teachers, grocery store workers - so everyone has been around people this entire time not isolated in their home.

I do believe people are testing without symptoms but I think many people have actual symptoms or have a known exposure.

Posted 12/28/21 10:57 AM
 

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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by PitterPatter11

Posted by Sash

Posted by PitterPatter11

People on this thread make it seem like no one has Covid currently and that testing is ridiculous. I have barely known anyone with Covid in the last two years. In the last two weeks, I have personally at least a DOZEN of people with Covid. This doesn’t include all the people on my FB feed who have posted that they have Covid.



What is your point? Because you didn’t know anyone who had Covid before this surge, it didn’t happen? Because all your family who tested was symptomatic, no one is testing out of nonsense and overwhelming testing sites? Or is your point to give opposite examples of what is actually happening! It’s on the news, no one is making this up.

Also maybe your circle was the one who quarantined and isolated longer than usual, so it would make sense your little bubble is contracting Covid now. Especially since the vaccine only helps with symptoms and side effects. It’s really not rocket science. So you are seeing it now but doesn’t mean people haven’t been getting Covid in droves since 2020.

It happened last fall, it happened this fall in 2021 and guess what? Despite your little sample set of examples it will happen again next fall.

I know many people who got Covid last year (unvaccinated) and this year many of my vaccinated family and friends are getting it.



I do know people who got it before now but not in this magnitude in a very short period of time like 3 weeks. One of them being my son this fall so I’m not in some little bubble. Everyone in my family is an essential worker - nurses, cops, teachers, grocery store workers - so everyone has been around people this entire time not isolated in their home.

I do believe people are testing without symptoms but I think many people have actual symptoms or have a known exposure.




Weren't you the one that said that you didn't leave your home for a very long time?

Posted 12/28/21 11:02 AM
 

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Re: Covid at home test kits

The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.

Posted 12/28/21 11:06 AM
 

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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by Sash

Posted by PitterPatter11

People on this thread make it seem like no one has Covid currently and that testing is ridiculous. I have barely known anyone with Covid in the last two years. In the last two weeks, I have personally at least a DOZEN of people with Covid. This doesn’t include all the people on my FB feed who have posted that they have Covid.



What is your point? Because you didn’t know anyone who had Covid before this surge, it didn’t happen? Because all your family who tested was symptomatic, no one is testing out of nonsense and overwhelming testing sites? Or is your point to give opposite examples of what is actually happening! It’s on the news, no one is making this up.

Also maybe your circle was the one who quarantined and isolated longer than usual, so it would make sense your little bubble is contracting Covid now. Especially since the vaccine only helps with symptoms and side effects. It’s really not rocket science. So you are seeing it now but doesn’t mean people haven’t been getting Covid in droves since 2020.

It happened last fall, it happened this fall in 2021 and guess what? Despite your little sample set of examples it will happen again next fall.

I know many people who got Covid last year (unvaccinated) and this year many of my vaccinated family and friends are getting it.




Funny how 99% of the people I know with covid now or just had it were vaccinated. But you know, it's those selfish unvaccinated people.



But the unvaccinated are the ones filling the hospital beds so when the unvaccinated have overwhelmed the hospitals and there are no more beds- where do those with strokes or heart attacks go?

Posted 12/28/21 11:08 AM
 

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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by CookiePuss

The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.



I don't follow the numbers everyday anymore but they never will give you the breakdown of people who are vaccinated or unvaccinated in the hospital or died.

I can tell you from the people I know, the unvaccinated who got it didn't have it any worse than the vaccinated. I know that is not always true but many people are hypochondriacs and will run to the hospital for anything so those people are taking up beds that could be used for others.

Posted 12/28/21 11:09 AM
 

Sash
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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by PitterPatter11

Posted by Sash

Posted by PitterPatter11

People on this thread make it seem like no one has Covid currently and that testing is ridiculous. I have barely known anyone with Covid in the last two years. In the last two weeks, I have personally at least a DOZEN of people with Covid. This doesn’t include all the people on my FB feed who have posted that they have Covid.



What is your point? Because you didn’t know anyone who had Covid before this surge, it didn’t happen? Because all your family who tested was symptomatic, no one is testing out of nonsense and overwhelming testing sites? Or is your point to give opposite examples of what is actually happening! It’s on the news, no one is making this up.

Also maybe your circle was the one who quarantined and isolated longer than usual, so it would make sense your little bubble is contracting Covid now. Especially since the vaccine only helps with symptoms and side effects. It’s really not rocket science. So you are seeing it now but doesn’t mean people haven’t been getting Covid in droves since 2020.

It happened last fall, it happened this fall in 2021 and guess what? Despite your little sample set of examples it will happen again next fall.

I know many people who got Covid last year (unvaccinated) and this year many of my vaccinated family and friends are getting it.



I do know people who got it before now but not in this magnitude in a very short period of time like 3 weeks. One of them being my son this fall so I’m not in some little bubble. Everyone in my family is an essential worker - nurses, cops, teachers, grocery store workers - so everyone has been around people this entire time not isolated in their home.

I do believe people are testing without symptoms but I think many people have actual symptoms or have a known exposure.



Many people have symptoms but not the majority who were testing, which was the whole point of this thread and what we are actually discussing.

Posted 12/28/21 11:12 AM
 

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Re: Covid at home test kits

You can absolutely find numbers of those who have died and the status of their vaccination.

Link

I am sure you can find more detailed information if you research it.

Posted 12/28/21 11:14 AM
 

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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by PitterPatter11

Posted by Sash

Posted by PitterPatter11

People on this thread make it seem like no one has Covid currently and that testing is ridiculous. I have barely known anyone with Covid in the last two years. In the last two weeks, I have personally at least a DOZEN of people with Covid. This doesn’t include all the people on my FB feed who have posted that they have Covid.



What is your point? Because you didn’t know anyone who had Covid before this surge, it didn’t happen? Because all your family who tested was symptomatic, no one is testing out of nonsense and overwhelming testing sites? Or is your point to give opposite examples of what is actually happening! It’s on the news, no one is making this up.

Also maybe your circle was the one who quarantined and isolated longer than usual, so it would make sense your little bubble is contracting Covid now. Especially since the vaccine only helps with symptoms and side effects. It’s really not rocket science. So you are seeing it now but doesn’t mean people haven’t been getting Covid in droves since 2020.

It happened last fall, it happened this fall in 2021 and guess what? Despite your little sample set of examples it will happen again next fall.

I know many people who got Covid last year (unvaccinated) and this year many of my vaccinated family and friends are getting it.



I do know people who got it before now but not in this magnitude in a very short period of time like 3 weeks. One of them being my son this fall so I’m not in some little bubble. Everyone in my family is an essential worker - nurses, cops, teachers, grocery store workers - so everyone has been around people this entire time not isolated in their home.

I do believe people are testing without symptoms but I think many people have actual symptoms or have a known exposure.




Weren't you the one that said that you didn't leave your home for a very long time?



In the spring of 2020, I stayed home. Since everyone was suppose to. I’ve been working in person since September 2020. My son has been attending in person school and doing travel soccer including indoor seasons, since fall of 2020. My little family has probably been more cautious than others but my brothers and sisters not so much.

Posted 12/28/21 11:16 AM
 

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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by CookiePuss

The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.



I don't follow the numbers everyday anymore but they never will give you the breakdown of people who are vaccinated or unvaccinated in the hospital or died.

I can tell you from the people I know, the unvaccinated who got it didn't have it any worse than the vaccinated. I know that is not always true but many people are hypochondriacs and will run to the hospital for anything so those people are taking up beds that could be used for others.



using the people you know as a basis is limited and bias and does not help to show a real picture.

Posted 12/28/21 11:16 AM
 

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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by CookiePuss

You can absolutely find numbers of those who have died and the status of their vaccination.

Link

I am sure you can find more detailed information if you research it.



Thanks. I was speaking more of the breakdown of local hospitals who claim they are overwhelmed.

Posted 12/28/21 11:17 AM
 

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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by CookiePuss

The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.



This is obviously off topic.. but I don’t know, I went for surgery on Wednesday, one of the biggest well known hospitals in NJ and it wasn’t overwhelmed. My grandfather is in the hospital in FL, no craziness going on in his hospital. I wish people would define the #s when they say overwhelm. And provide facts of these overwhelmed hospitals. When I think overwhelmed, I’m thinking 2020 start of pandemic. I keep hearing this blanket statement of “overwhelmed hosptials”, but don’t see where this is happening.

Now, If we get back on topic, doctor offices and testing sites are overwhelmed because of the hysteria of useless testing.

Posted 12/28/21 11:18 AM
 

windyweather21
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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by PitterPatter11

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by PitterPatter11

Posted by Sash

Posted by PitterPatter11

People on this thread make it seem like no one has Covid currently and that testing is ridiculous. I have barely known anyone with Covid in the last two years. In the last two weeks, I have personally at least a DOZEN of people with Covid. This doesn’t include all the people on my FB feed who have posted that they have Covid.



What is your point? Because you didn’t know anyone who had Covid before this surge, it didn’t happen? Because all your family who tested was symptomatic, no one is testing out of nonsense and overwhelming testing sites? Or is your point to give opposite examples of what is actually happening! It’s on the news, no one is making this up.

Also maybe your circle was the one who quarantined and isolated longer than usual, so it would make sense your little bubble is contracting Covid now. Especially since the vaccine only helps with symptoms and side effects. It’s really not rocket science. So you are seeing it now but doesn’t mean people haven’t been getting Covid in droves since 2020.

It happened last fall, it happened this fall in 2021 and guess what? Despite your little sample set of examples it will happen again next fall.

I know many people who got Covid last year (unvaccinated) and this year many of my vaccinated family and friends are getting it.



I do know people who got it before now but not in this magnitude in a very short period of time like 3 weeks. One of them being my son this fall so I’m not in some little bubble. Everyone in my family is an essential worker - nurses, cops, teachers, grocery store workers - so everyone has been around people this entire time not isolated in their home.

I do believe people are testing without symptoms but I think many people have actual symptoms or have a known exposure.




Weren't you the one that said that you didn't leave your home for a very long time?



In the spring of 2020, I stayed home. Since everyone was suppose to. I’ve been working in person since September 2020. My son has been attending in person school and doing travel soccer including indoor seasons, since fall of 2020. My little family has probably been more cautious than others but my brothers and sisters not so much.



So your brothers and sisters were not but they only just got sick now? Are they vaccinated?

Posted 12/28/21 11:22 AM
 

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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by CookiePuss

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by CookiePuss

The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.



I don't follow the numbers everyday anymore but they never will give you the breakdown of people who are vaccinated or unvaccinated in the hospital or died.

I can tell you from the people I know, the unvaccinated who got it didn't have it any worse than the vaccinated. I know that is not always true but many people are hypochondriacs and will run to the hospital for anything so those people are taking up beds that could be used for others.



using the people you know as a basis is limited and bias and does not help to show a real picture.



Agreed and I have said that already.

Posted 12/28/21 11:23 AM
 

windyweather21
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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by Sash

Posted by CookiePuss

The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.



This is obviously off topic.. but I don’t know, I went for surgery on Wednesday, one of the biggest well known hospitals in NJ and it wasn’t overwhelmed. My grandfather is in the hospital in FL, no craziness going on in his hospital. I wish people would define the #s when they say overwhelm. And provide facts of these overwhelmed hospitals. When I think overwhelmed, I’m thinking 2020 start of pandemic. I keep hearing this blanket statement of “overwhelmed hosptials”, but don’t see where this is happening.

Now, If we get back on topic, doctor offices and testing sites are overwhelmed because of the hysteria of useless testing.



"Now, If we get back on topic, doctor offices and testing sites are overwhelmed because of the hysteria of useless testing."

YES

Posted 12/28/21 11:24 AM
 

NervousNell
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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by Sash

Posted by NervousNell

Posted by mommy2devin

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by NervousNell

Well if it's evolving into something that feels like allergies or a cold and lasts a day or 2 than disappears than that's a good thing



Exactly. That is the goal that this virus is nothing more than a cold and that is what it appears to be with MOST cases now.




The goal???? How is this a goal? And what exactly have you don’t to achieve this goal?



Since viruses never go away, yes, the goal is to have them become milder as time goes on so that you can live with them and walk amongst them and live a normal life. Like we did prior to 2020.
The goal can't be to have Covid not exist. Because that will never happen.
Even the vaccines don't stop the spread or stop people from getting it
So isn't the goal for it to be manageable?
If not, than what IS the goal?



Clearly the goal is to continue living in fear and cause panic and mass hysteria every Covid/Flu season.



I'm starting to see that this is truly the goal.
Why, I don't know.
Signed,
The captain.

Posted 12/28/21 11:28 AM
 

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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by CookiePuss

You can absolutely find numbers of those who have died and the status of their vaccination.

Link

I am sure you can find more detailed information if you research it.



U do realize that vaccinated people who have only received one shot or have not yet gotten the booster can be considered unvaccinated, right?

Message edited 12/28/2021 11:32:41 AM.

Posted 12/28/21 11:29 AM
 

CookiePuss
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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by Sash

Posted by CookiePuss

The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.



This is obviously off topic.. but I don’t know, I went for surgery on Wednesday, one of the biggest well known hospitals in NJ and it wasn’t overwhelmed. My grandfather is in the hospital in FL, no craziness going on in his hospital. I wish people would define the #s when they say overwhelm. And provide facts of these overwhelmed hospitals. When I think overwhelmed, I’m thinking 2020 start of pandemic. I keep hearing this blanket statement of “overwhelmed hosptials”, but don’t see where this is happening.

Now, If we get back on topic, doctor offices and testing sites are overwhelmed because of the hysteria of useless testing.



I believe it's the concern that the trend can overwhelm the hospitals fairly quickly.
ETA: I am social with a few doctors and nurses that are in the ER. They are dreading what they feel is coming. One does Urgent Care work as well and she was sharing how overwhelming things have gotten in the last couple of weeks because of increasing CoVid cases and Flu A cases. Now they test first for CoVid and if that is negative - they test for the flu and it's usually one or the other.

Message edited 12/28/2021 11:54:01 AM.

Posted 12/28/21 11:31 AM
 

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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by soontobemommyof2

Posted by CookiePuss

You can absolutely find numbers of those who have died and the status of their vaccination.

Link

I am sure you can find more detailed information if you research it.



U do realized that many vaccinated people who have only received one shot or have not yet gotten the booster can be considered unvaccinated, right?



Yes I do. The link I provided even breaks that down in the data.

Posted 12/28/21 11:32 AM
 

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Re: Covid at home test kits

Posted by CookiePuss

Posted by windyweather21

Posted by CookiePuss

The vaccine helps to minimize the need for hospitalization and death.
If the hospital beds are full of CoVid patients - a majority of hospitalizations and death are of the unvaccinated - what happens to those in car crashes, strokes, heart attacks when there are no more beds because of what I stated above?
So, while the vaccines have not helped in stopping the transmission - it has been helpful is lowering sickness to avoid death and hospitalization.



I don't follow the numbers everyday anymore but they never will give you the breakdown of people who are vaccinated or unvaccinated in the hospital or died.

I can tell you from the people I know, the unvaccinated who got it didn't have it any worse than the vaccinated. I know that is not always true but many people are hypochondriacs and will run to the hospital for anything so those people are taking up beds that could be used for others.



using the people you know as a basis is limited and bias and does not help to show a real picture.



Also skewed since hospitals are not admitting those that don’t require admission. So they aren’t taking up beds by running to the hospital as you claim.

Posted 12/28/21 12:05 PM
 
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