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mommyIam
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cbs news: bye bye baby
Anyone up to watch it?
if you didn't here is the video
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Re: cbs news: bye bye baby
Yep watching it.... It's not a particularly new or earth-shattering idea, imho, just a "packaged" grouping of ideas that many moms already do? Particularly mothers outside of the US I suspect...
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| Posted 2/10/11 11:23 PM |
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mommyIam
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Re: cbs news: bye bye baby
Posted by colette
Yep watching it.... It's not a particularly new or earth-shattering idea, imho, just a "packaged" grouping of ideas that many moms already do? Particularly mothers outside of the US I suspect...
I haven't really come across these ideas anywhere else. Maybe something about independent play here and there.
I don't think its an outside us thing, more like american upper class sahm who don't like nannies  its huge on west coast... I have yet to be invited to a private RIE party, I'm not upper enough I met one of the moms interviewd at a rie class (more than I ever spent on any class) and the RIe teacher.
I love the philosphy, but I don't follow 100%, I adapt a few things that fit our lifestyle better. For example, we use a highchair, because we like to eat together.
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| Posted 2/10/11 11:31 PM |
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Re: cbs news: bye bye baby
Yeah I think it's recycled stuff but that's ok, they say there's nothing new under the sun and I'm starting to believe it. I'd also say, really, that for a real BABY age, this works great and is really cool, but come the toddler years, and it will be impractical to maintain some of the hands-off mentality - particularly in mixed company with non-RIE parents...
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| Posted 2/10/11 11:37 PM |
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MaMaTeenie
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Re: cbs news: bye bye baby
IMO its all just to sell a few books. They didn't mention anything new, they just want to take everything to the extreme. Why not a happy medium? I have always talked to my children like they are people b/c they are people. I don't know one single parent this day in age who goo goo's and ga-ga's their kids. I let them feed them selves and experiment with things, but I also help to feed them. And so on. Like the Psychologist said. Do what feels right if they like the high chair let them sit in a high chair. Not everything has to be turned into "a method".
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| Posted 2/11/11 12:01 AM |
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mommyIam
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Re: cbs news: bye bye baby
Posted by MaMaTeenie
IMO its all just to sell a few books.
Not really, there is only one book and its cheap, the author passed away and most of the info is being carried around by her followers and posted on their blogs free for all. No need to even buy the book. The classes, though, while aren't necessary, they are a pretty penny.
They didn't mention anything new, they just want to take everything to the extreme. Why not a happy medium?
I consider myself a RIE mommy, but I take nothing to an extreme. I believe in happy mediums and I believe mommies know whats best for their babies.
Nothing new? If its nothing new, then why didn't anyone give me the advice of
"tell your baby when you leave the room, and they wont cry after you"
"don't interfere in your babies play"
"babies learn through frustration, even when they are screaming (and not just for CIO)"
"temper tantrums can be avoided if a baby feels like they are understood (even an 8m old)"
"how a baby learns to play in infancy, is how they will continue to play as toddlers"
"personality is developed in the first two years of life - independence confidence and how babies learn to learn"
"Its more than just talking at your baby, its about them understanding. They do, if you expect them to."
"babies who have choices during feeding time and given time and understand boundaries, have great table manners (even an 8m old)"
"not reaching milestones is sometimes a result of not enough floor play time"
I'm not an expert, so I apologize if anything I'm saying is a little off for exact RIE, but this is what I learned and what has worked amazing for me.
I wish I knew about it sooner, and I hope it opens eyes for some mommies who don't see it as the same old spiel.
I only discovered it when DS was 8m, and it was like night and day, 2 weeks to transition, and voila, like magic, the changes I've seen. I do not believe in "its just a phase" anymore.
This was different to me, it wasn't' the same old, a lot of the philosophy goes against the LIF grain, and when I give advice based on what I do and what works for me, I'm told its a load of cr@p. I felt this way before, now I feel its gold.
I really want more mom's to open their minds about it.
There is a wonderful blog written by, who IMO is the top RIE expert:
http://www.janetlansbury.com/ <== free!
Through her articles and through her forum, I've learned so much more about RIE than anywhere else, even the book.
Here is another blog I follow, I love this mom, she also recently discovered RIE with a infant and toddler and I love to read about her experiences
This specific article about sleep:
http://www.mamaeve.com/index.php/caring-for-baby-a-toddler/baby-a-toddler-sleep/247-how-respect-is-getting-me-more-sleep
my point is, this is not the advice I was getting on LIF, its not the advice my mom would give me, I never heard of anything like this.
Respect? "what the heck does that mean?" "what a load of cr@p" ... yep .. yep ... its amazing how it works !
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| Posted 2/11/11 12:55 AM |
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pharmcat2000
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Re: cbs news: bye bye baby
Pardon my ignorance, but what is RIE? I didn't see the news tonight, as I had to work.
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| Posted 2/11/11 2:22 AM |
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Agape08
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Re: cbs news: bye bye baby
Posted by pharmcat2000
Pardon my ignorance, but what is RIE? I didn't see the news tonight, as I had to work.
I'm wondering the same thing.
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| Posted 2/11/11 5:56 AM |
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smdl
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Re: cbs news: bye bye baby
Posted by mommyIam
Posted by MaMaTeenie
IMO its all just to sell a few books.
Not really, there is only one book and its cheap, the author passed away and most of the info is being carried around by her followers and posted on their blogs free for all. No need to even buy the book. The classes, though, while aren't necessary, they are a pretty penny.
They didn't mention anything new, they just want to take everything to the extreme. Why not a happy medium?
I consider myself a RIE mommy, but I take nothing to an extreme. I believe in happy mediums and I believe mommies know whats best for their babies.
Nothing new? If its nothing new, then why didn't anyone give me the advice of
"tell your baby when you leave the room, and they wont cry after you"
"don't interfere in your babies play"
"babies learn through frustration, even when they are screaming (and not just for CIO)"
"temper tantrums can be avoided if a baby feels like they are understood (even an 8m old)"
"how a baby learns to play in infancy, is how they will continue to play as toddlers"
"personality is developed in the first two years of life - independence confidence and how babies learn to learn"
"Its more than just talking at your baby, its about them understanding. They do, if you expect them to."
"babies who have choices during feeding time and given time and understand boundaries, have great table manners (even an 8m old)"
"not reaching milestones is sometimes a result of not enough floor play time"
I'm not an expert, so I apologize if anything I'm saying is a little off for exact RIE, but this is what I learned and what has worked amazing for me.
I wish I knew about it sooner, and I hope it opens eyes for some mommies who don't see it as the same old spiel.
I only discovered it when DS was 8m, and it was like night and day, 2 weeks to transition, and voila, like magic, the changes I've seen. I do not believe in "its just a phase" anymore.
This was different to me, it wasn't' the same old, a lot of the philosophy goes against the LIF grain, and when I give advice based on what I do and what works for me, I'm told its a load of cr@p. I felt this way before, now I feel its gold.
I really want more mom's to open their minds about it.
There is a wonderful blog written by, who IMO is the top RIE expert:
http://www.janetlansbury.com/ <== free!
Through her articles and through her forum, I've learned so much more about RIE than anywhere else, even the book.
Here is another blog I follow, I love this mom, she also recently discovered RIE with a infant and toddler and I love to read about her experiences
This specific article about sleep:
http://www.mamaeve.com/index.php/caring-for-baby-a-toddler/baby-a-toddler-sleep/247-how-respect-is-getting-me-more-sleep
my point is, this is not the advice I was getting on LIF, its not the advice my mom would give me, I never heard of anything like this.
Respect? "what the heck does that mean?" "what a load of cr@p" ... yep .. yep ... its amazing how it works !
Actually a lot of people have done that for YEARS. Just because they don't write a book or go on TV, does not mean it's a "new" concept. Not everyone talks baby talks, not everyone does CIO.
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| Posted 2/11/11 6:36 AM |
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mommyIam
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Re: cbs news: bye bye baby
Posted by Agape08
Posted by pharmcat2000
Pardon my ignorance, but what is RIE? I didn't see the news tonight, as I had to work.
I'm wondering the same thing.
From the website:
Resources for Infant Educarers (RIE) was founded in 1978 by the late educator and infant specialist Magda Gerber and pediatric neurologist Tom Forrest, M.D.
RIE is a non-profit world-wide membership organization, dedicated to improving the quality of infant care and education through teaching, supporting, and mentoring parents and caregivers.
I don't know about the membership I never had to pay anything
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| Posted 2/11/11 7:02 AM |
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mommyIam
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Re: cbs news: bye bye baby
Posted by smdl
Actually a lot of people have done that for YEARS. Just because they don't write a book or go on TV, does not mean it's a "new" concept. Not everyone talks baby talks, not everyone does CIO.
I don't care if its not a "new" concept, the coin was only termed is from 1978, the theory evolved from studies in 1950's. I never heard of this group of ideas put together and the whole notion of "respect your baby like an adult" ever!
and btw, RIE does advocate CIO, but it doesn't call it that
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| Posted 2/11/11 7:07 AM |
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smdl
I love Gary too..on a plate!
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Re: cbs news: bye bye baby
Posted by mommyIam
Posted by smdl
Actually a lot of people have done that for YEARS. Just because they don't write a book or go on TV, does not mean it's a "new" concept. Not everyone talks baby talks, not everyone does CIO.
I don't care if its not a "new" concept, the coin was only termed is from 1978, the theory evolved from studies in 1950's. I never heard of this group of ideas put together and the whole notion of "respect your baby like an adult" ever!
and btw, RIE does advocate CIO, but it doesn't call it that
Many groups can claim to be the "1st one".
I teach infant massage and teach that respect is very important. That we need to ask our babies prior to massaging them. And that concept of infant massage in the US was in the early 70's. So nothing new that we need to respect our babies.
I mean we can go back and forth in referencing books on baby and development as far as 1800's. And mostly 1900's and 1950's. Each Dr. will give you their own ideas, what we should do, not do. All based from a hand's full of books wrote very early on that dr. revive about every 50 years and call it a new concept.
But hey, if someone wants to call it a "new" concept.. so be it!
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| Posted 2/11/11 7:15 AM |
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MaMaTeenie
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Re: cbs news: bye bye baby
Posted by smdl
Actually a lot of people have done that for YEARS. Just because they don't write a book or go on TV, does not mean it's a "new" concept. Not everyone talks baby talks, not everyone does CIO.
Exactly.
Shana, I won't get into a debate about this with you because I know you are sold on it and that is fine for you, not for me.
I don't know maybe my experience taught me more than I thought, but even without it, I wouldn't have talked to my child in baby speak. I knew that too much was over stimulating, my heart told me to respect my child and to talk to them when I leave the room so they'd know I was there (I have given that advice many times.) You should interfere with your babies play sometimes and not others. You should interfere in arguments sometimes and not others.
To sell books was a generalization b/c I was too lazy to type sell book, buy classes, pay specialists yadda, yadda, yadda.
We will have to agree to disagree on this one, which is fine. Different strokes for different folks.
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| Posted 2/11/11 7:19 AM |
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MaMaTeenie
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Re: cbs news: bye bye baby
Posted by mommyIam
I have never heard whole notion of "respect your baby like an adult" ever!
(Sorry, I can't double quote on my phone)
Really? Wow, I'm surprised.
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| Posted 2/11/11 7:22 AM |
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MaMaTeenie
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Re: cbs news: bye bye baby
Posted by Agape08
Posted by pharmcat2000
Pardon my ignorance, but what is RIE? I didn't see the news tonight, as I had to work.
I'm wondering the same thing.
Its the latest parenting 'trend' or so they said. IMO there is nothing new about it, nor is it a trend, but that's the news for you.
Based around talking to your baby like you would any person, giving them choices and freedom, less is more etc. A lot more involved, but that's the short of it.
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| Posted 2/11/11 7:27 AM |
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mommyIam
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Shana
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Re: cbs news: bye bye baby
Posted by MaMaTeenie
Posted by mommyIam
I have never heard whole notion of "respect your baby like an adult" ever!
(Sorry, I can't double quote on my phone)
Really? Wow, I'm surprised.
In my family babies are little kings and queens, baby them, hold them, carry them, sleep in the same room as them, if they want in your bed, give it to them, give them everything they want, distract till the cows come home, bribe them, take them to the bathroom with you, put them in highchair/ stroller and bring them around the house as you do chores, don't ever let them cry, and make sure they see you at all times, and don't worry about spoilage till age 3-4. I honestly didn't think there was another way, and I thought this is how well adjusted children are made. I couldn't understand why it wasn't working with DS, and why other babies were so calm and happy.
I really wonder if I was the only one raised to think this way, this old/new RIE thing, has changed my world.
Posted by MaMaTeenie
We will have to agree to disagree on this one, which is fine. Different strokes for different folks.
I agree to disagree; no harm done. 
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