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joenick
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I am so bummed! Any suggestions?
Me and the kids finally got the DH on board to get an inground pool. 
Called a company to come for an estimate. The guy barely stepped out of his truck and shook his head.
He said there is "no way" to get an excavator in my yard.
I have a detached garage, but it is connected to my house by a breezeway. Not sure if you can see it to the left of the photo:
He said with hand excavation, the pool would be $36,500
That doesn't include any electrical upgrades, burying wires (LIPA) and of course, the masonry.
I just called another company and explained the entry situation. He said he doesn't have machinery that would fit either.
I am sooooo upset.
Besides removing the garage (which the pool guy actually suggested...um...NO) or removing the breezeway which would result in us having to completely reside the house (on that side since it's notched in) and completely re-roofing the garage...do you have any suggestions?
I think we might just have to go with an above ground pool and make a really nice deck around it.
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Re: I am so bummed! Any suggestions?
aw that stinks
unfortunately i dont have any suggestions for you unless, like you said, you detach the breezeway temporarily but that would be costly- how friendly are you with your neighbors? jk
an above ground pool with a deck around it is really nice though- and think of the positives- youll save a ton of money on masonry work and its maintenance and your taxes wont go up!
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| Posted 7/26/12 12:55 PM |
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neener1211
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Re: I am so bummed! Any suggestions?
I would do the above ground pool.
Thnks of all the pluses:
No expensive liners to replace when they go bad.
Taxes won't go up.
You can take it down when you determine you no longer want it without expensive fill in costs.
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| Posted 7/26/12 12:57 PM |
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NoStressMom
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Re: I am so bummed! Any suggestions?
you could do a nice semi in ground pool
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| Posted 7/26/12 1:08 PM |
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JennasMom
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Re: I am so bummed! Any suggestions?
Posted by NoStressMom
you could do a nice semi in ground pool[/QUOTE
This!!
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| Posted 7/26/12 1:16 PM |
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joenick
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Re: I am so bummed! Any suggestions?
Yes...I think a semi inground with a deck is what we'll have to get.
HOPEFULLY that still won't cause a problem for excavation...but since it's less to dig, hopefully hand excavation will cost less.
I was looking online for some ideas for decking. I'm not sure what I want. I'd love to match my front stoop with the stacked stone, but I can't find any pictures online for what I imagine in my head. LOL!
If you see any pics...PLEASE POST!!!!!!
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| Posted 7/26/12 1:27 PM |
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Re: I am so bummed! Any suggestions?
Posted by joenick
Yes...I think a semi inground with a deck is what we'll have to get.
HOPEFULLY that still won't cause a problem for excavation...but since it's less to dig, hopefully hand excavation will cost less.
I was looking online for some ideas for decking. I'm not sure what I want. I'd love to match my front stoop with the stacked stone, but I can't find any pictures online for what I imagine in my head. LOL!
If you see any pics...PLEASE POST!!!!!!
We just had a semi inground pool installed 2 weeks ago and they brought in a backhoe to excavate - but it wasn't a huge backhoe, so maybe it would fit though your beezeway. Haven't installed the deck yet, but if you google semi-inground pool decks you'll get lots of pics.
ETA: is there a fence on the other side of your yard (to the right) that you could take down to get the equipment into the yard?
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| Posted 7/26/12 1:41 PM |
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joenick
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Re: I am so bummed! Any suggestions? Pics inside
Unfortunately, there's no other way into my yard. I'm completely fenced in and the only other possible entry point is from my neighbor's side but she has a wheelchair ramp and trees. 
I've been googling semi-ingroun pool decks all day. I've seen some interesting ideas:
I like the stone steps here but I would do stacked stone to match the front of my house:
Thought this looked interesting:
This with stacked stone:
chilltocam...what pool company did you use? Did you go to their showroom or did someone come out to you to measure first? Did they apply for the permits? Any info, I would GREATLY appreciate!
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| Posted 7/26/12 2:22 PM |
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Re: I am so bummed! Any suggestions?
Posted by joenick
Yes...I think a semi inground with a deck is what we'll have to get.
HOPEFULLY that still won't cause a problem for excavation...but since it's less to dig, hopefully hand excavation will cost less.
I was looking online for some ideas for decking. I'm not sure what I want. I'd love to match my front stoop with the stacked stone, but I can't find any pictures online for what I imagine in my head. LOL!
If you see any pics...PLEASE POST!!!!!!
For a semi-inground, they may be able to just use a Bobcat, which is less than 8' wide. they have mini-bobcats which are just under 3' wide.
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| Posted 7/26/12 2:25 PM |
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joenick
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Re: I am so bummed! Any suggestions?
Oooo...a mini-bobcat is just the trick. The opening between the garage- house and the height of the breezeway is 5 ft wide and 6.5 feet high. A mini bobcat would work!
Maybe now I can get excited again!
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| Posted 7/26/12 2:30 PM |
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I am so bummed! Any suggestions?
I guess bobcat was what I meant, not backhoe. Whatever it is they used, it might fit through the breezeway. We got our pool from Dunrite in Bohemia. We went to the showroom and told them what size pool we wanted and picked out the liner. Then they sent someone out to check out the yard and discuss the placement of the pool. Dunrite was great to deal with but they subcontracted the installation which was a bit of a nightmare. (FM me if you want details). Apparently Dunrite no longer uses that subcontractor because of what happened at our house and Dunrite has been great to deal with and did the right thing after we had problems.
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| Posted 7/26/12 2:59 PM |
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joenick
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Re: I am so bummed! Any suggestions?
Posted by chilltocam
I guess bobcat was what I meant, not backhoe. Whatever it is they used, it might fit through the breezeway. We got our pool from Dunrite in Bohemia. We went to the showroom and told them what size pool we wanted and picked out the liner. Then they sent someone out to check out the yard and discuss the placement of the pool. Dunrite was great to deal with but they subcontracted the installation which was a bit of a nightmare. (FM me if you want details). Apparently Dunrite no longer uses that subcontractor because of what happened at our house and Dunrite has been great to deal with and did the right thing after we had problems.
Did you have to get a permit? Did Dunrite do all the permit applications and filings for you? Do you have any pics you can FM? And I'd love to hear the installation story, if you are willing to share. Thanks!
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| Posted 7/26/12 3:16 PM |
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Re: I am so bummed! Any suggestions?
Posted by joenick
Posted by chilltocam
I guess bobcat was what I meant, not backhoe. Whatever it is they used, it might fit through the breezeway. We got our pool from Dunrite in Bohemia. We went to the showroom and told them what size pool we wanted and picked out the liner. Then they sent someone out to check out the yard and discuss the placement of the pool. Dunrite was great to deal with but they subcontracted the installation which was a bit of a nightmare. (FM me if you want details). Apparently Dunrite no longer uses that subcontractor because of what happened at our house and Dunrite has been great to deal with and did the right thing after we had problems.
Did you have to get a permit? Did Dunrite do all the permit applications and filings for you? Do you have any pics you can FM? And I'd love to hear the installation story, if you are willing to share. Thanks!
We didn't need a permit (or if we did, didn't get one) - not sure if that differs by Town. they also said that as long as its only 2 feet into the ground, there's no increase in taxes. I will FM you the installation story. I don't have any pics right now (and am leaving on vaca tomorrow, so not sure if I can get to it later), but right now we have a pool (oval, 30' x 15') and a backyard that is just all dirt (but we had other work done too - new fence, grading the yard and sprinklers)
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Re: I am so bummed! Any suggestions?
Why not do a pool that's half in the ground, with a deck around? I really like those.
eta- like the pics you posted
It's a LOT less digging required.
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Re: I am so bummed! Any suggestions?
Posted by neener1211
I would do the above ground pool.
Thnks of all the pluses:
No expensive liners to replace when they go bad.
Taxes won't go up.
You can take it down when you determine you no longer want it without expensive fill in costs.
ITA
You can do a beautiful deck. Use the extra money on a great vacation:)
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| Posted 7/26/12 6:48 PM |
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joenick
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Re: I am so bummed! Any suggestions?
Very true...I think you all convinced me. Above or semi-inground with a beautiful deck is the way to go.
Now...do I do this the right away and apply for permits, inspection, LIPA (bury wires) and all that jazz...or just do it?
Do most people get permits for above and semi-ingrounds?
What to do? 
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Re: I am so bummed! Any suggestions?
I just have to say that those pics you posted of the semi-inground pools are GORGEOUS!!!
Hmm, now you have me thinking about my own backyard!!!!!!!
Good luck & please post "after" pics!!! 
Eta: I live upstate so I'm not sure if it's different, but I know that my town does require a permit for an above ground pool.
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I am so bummed! Any suggestions?
Those pictures are gorgeous! You can't go wrong with something like that. Now I want to do that with my AGP!
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| Posted 7/26/12 8:56 PM |
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Re: I am so bummed! Any suggestions?
I love the second pic you posted. But I would want a bit more deck all around so the kids can get out on all sides if they want to.
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| Posted 7/29/12 3:32 AM |
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Re: I am so bummed! Any suggestions?
Posted by joenick
Very true...I think you all convinced me. Above or semi-inground with a beautiful deck is the way to go.
Now...do I do this the right away and apply for permits, inspection, LIPA (bury wires) and all that jazz...or just do it?
Do most people get permits for above and semi-ingrounds?
What to do?
Do it the right way now with permits. The contractor should deal with a lot of that for you as part of the contract and it's a lot eaiser to do it now rather than having to deal with it when you try to sell.
You may be in a rush to sell some day or find that something wasn't done to code and if you wait to set things right it could be a big PITA. I think if codes change what is OK now would be grandfathered in but if you never got a permit you'd have to tear it out or upgrade to get the permit after the fact.
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