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Re: DH thinks we might need to find Yogi a new home *UPATED*
I am relieved and happy to see your update!! 
I hope the suggestions here help you and that Yogi's demeanor settles down with his increased exercise! 
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Re: DH thinks we might need to find Yogi a new home *UPATED*
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I'd first like to say, thank you all for your feedback. Like all of you, the thought of even considering rehoming Yogi was very upsetting to me. I consider him my first child and I love him to death. I cried over this situation and talked to DH. I told him that under no circumstances and I willing to find Yogi a new home. I explained to him that its not Yogi that has the problem, it is us, and therefore, he should not be punished. Yogi is wonderful with our son and I want him to be able to grow up with Yogi around. I want to be able to play with Yogi in the lake every summer until he is too old to swim. I want to take him for walks, runs, to the park, swimming in my mom's pool, and lay with him on lazy Sundays. I agree that DH's excuse is NOT a real reason to rehome an animal. I didn't agree with it from the minute he told me. I acutally brought it up at dinner with my IL's when we were there the other night and my MIL and FIL went OFF on DH for even considering it.
In reaility, DH needs to learn more patience for Yogi. Yes, Yogi is demanding and, Yes, he can be annoying when he steals and we are chasing him when he has DS's toys every 5 minutes. But, we need to do what it takes to make it work.
Again, thank you all for your feedback. I hope my original post did not insinuate that this was a final decision OR that I was willing to find Yogi a new home. I just needed some feedback an support to bring back to DH. Thanks again!
OMG, I love your update and am so glad you wrote all this!!! You made my day (and Yogi's too). I am so glad your ILs even thought your DH was crazy to suggest that. So so glad. I love you!  
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| Posted 11/7/09 12:59 PM |
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Diana712
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Re: DH thinks we might need to find Yogi a new home *UPATED*
This is just so wonderful!!! I agree with you wanting your baby to grow up with Yogi.. I cant wait for mine to play with Lola!!
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| Posted 11/7/09 1:23 PM |
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lbride
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Re: DH thinks we might need to find Yogi a new home *UPATED*
I reread the update and I'm happy you reconsidered.... just an FYI our trainer said chasing the dog after he steals something is the worst idea. Then the dog considers it a game and keeps repeating the action. Our dog steals everything from the counters... we stopped chasing her and instead we squat down holding some treats in our open palms... when the dog drops the toy say "drop it" and then reward with the treats.... this will help teach the "drop it" command
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| Posted 11/7/09 4:49 PM |
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greenfreak
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Re: DH thinks we might need to find Yogi a new home *UPATED*
Good thinking Lisa, I didn't consider that.
Ours is pretty good with the 'come' command when there are no distractions. So when we are outside and he is distracted, I'm teaching him a new signal. I raise my right fist above my head. If he comes to me, he gets what's in it - a treat. I don't say anything, I call his name and do the signal and he comes.
I don't give him a treat every time. Just frequently enough to keep him guessing.
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| Posted 11/7/09 6:33 PM |
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Re: DH thinks we might need to find Yogi a new home *UPATED*
Posted by lbride
I reread the update and I'm happy you reconsidered.... just an FYI our trainer said chasing the dog after he steals something is the worst idea. Then the dog considers it a game and keeps repeating the action. Our dog steals everything from the counters... we stopped chasing her and instead we squat down holding some treats in our open palms... when the dog drops the toy say "drop it" and then reward with the treats.... this will help teach the "drop it" command
The trainer we used suggested the same thing. The only problem is that Yogi will then steal more because he knows he will get a treat once he gives up what he has stolen. I don't chase him. I just stand in one place and say "drop it." After a few times, he usually drops it. From time to time he won't. I've heard of training where you don't use food as the reinforcement. I think that would be a better bet for Yogi. He's a smart boy and knows what he needs to do in order to get a treat.
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| Posted 11/7/09 9:35 PM |
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lbride
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Re: DH thinks we might need to find Yogi a new home *UPATED*
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Posted by lbride
I reread the update and I'm happy you reconsidered.... just an FYI our trainer said chasing the dog after he steals something is the worst idea. Then the dog considers it a game and keeps repeating the action. Our dog steals everything from the counters... we stopped chasing her and instead we squat down holding some treats in our open palms... when the dog drops the toy say "drop it" and then reward with the treats.... this will help teach the "drop it" command
The trainer we used suggested the same thing. The only problem is that Yogi will then steal more because he knows he will get a treat once he gives up what he has stolen. I don't chase him. I just stand in one place and say "drop it." After a few times, he usually drops it. From time to time he won't. I've heard of training where you don't use food as the reinforcement. I think that would be a better bet for Yogi. He's a smart boy and knows what he needs to do in order to get a treat.
I'm an admitted over-treater...it's the Italian in me!
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| Posted 11/7/09 9:55 PM |
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Re: DH thinks we might need to find Yogi a new home *UPATED*
I read your update & I'm thrilled you are going to try to make things work with Yogi in your family.
I have tons of experience with GSHPointers, my Mom had an AKC breeding facility for pointers & weimaraners from the time I was 7 until I was in high school. During that time we had anywhere from 10 dogs to 25 dogs that lived with us full-time in addition to other dogs that were there for breeding or showing purposes. We had a young GSHP that won Best In Breed at Westminster one year.
Pointers by nature are very active, they can be extremely witty and sometimes sneaky or totally skittish and afraid of authority. They like repetition and consistancy and because they are "sport" dogs bad habits like stealing are appealing to them. Its a game.
I agree that yogi and your son will have a great time growing up together. I grew up with those dogs and they are loyal and protective. I wish you lots of luck!
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| Posted 11/7/09 10:18 PM |
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greenfreak
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Re: DH thinks we might need to find Yogi a new home *UPATED*
Posted by Bubbs
The only problem is that Yogi will then steal more because he knows he will get a treat once he gives up what he has stolen.
The prize for doing what you say doesn't have to be a treat. And it doesn't have to be every single time. I know some dogs have fixations on other objects like balls or tug of war toys - is that more like him?
I just stand in one place and say "drop it." After a few times, he usually drops it.
Not sure if the trainer imparted this but each time you repeat a command, you lose authority with the dog. You're letting him decide whether he's in the mood to listen to you or not. This is one of the ways DH and I are different in our dog's mind. I say SIT and if he doesn't, I stare at him and wait. He realizes that he's not going to get anywhere with me, so he does. If he's still resistant, I physically make him do whatever it is I want. Not forcefully, not with pain or anything. But I'll clip a leash on him and pull him into a SIT position if I have to. Anything to make him do what I said without repeating myself. It's not all the time, he tests me from time to time like any adolescent dog, but in general, he is much more obedient with me as a result.
There are really subtle ways (to you and me) to exert your dominance over your dog that speak loud and clear to them. Food is by far #1.
What are his feeding times like? Does he run around, excited at being fed, and jump at the bowl the second you put it down? You can train him to lay down and wait in one spot, for as long as you want, put the bowl down and not let him eat until you give him a command. If you're interested, I can tell you how to go about that.
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lbride
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Re: DH thinks we might need to find Yogi a new home *UPATED*
also, our trainer told us to keep Maggie on the leash in the house while training her... our house is too small for a 40 lb dog running around with a leash so we're getting a shorted lead instead.... we have the trainer collar as well.... this may be helpful to start doing to gain more control in the house.
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| Posted 11/8/09 10:37 AM |
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MeeshMosh
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Re: DH thinks we might need to find Yogi a new home *UPATED*
SO happy to see a great update!!!
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| Posted 11/8/09 7:02 PM |
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vicky1125
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Re: DH thinks we might need to find Yogi a new home *UPATED*
love your update!
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| Posted 11/9/09 9:35 AM |
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wo0shply
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Re: DH thinks we might need to find Yogi a new home *UPATED*
I'm so happy you're going to work with Yogi! GSPs are wonderful dogs. Good luck!
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