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beachgirl
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Re: Hands up if you are 100% Irish
If a Polish couple has a child in Ireland and raises the child in Ireland and the child never leaves Irish soil, would you refer to the child as Irish?
YEs. because the child is born and raised in Ireland. The same way I will refer to my DD as american as she was born here and mostly likely will be raised here. I have met so many americans who say they are irish and who have never even been to Ireland - they say they are irish not american. I just dont understand the reasoning behind it. Why not just say you are american and your grannys, grannys, grannys first cousin three times removed left on the boat. Be proud of who you are thats all I am saying.
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Re: Hands up if you are 100% Irish
Posted by beachgirl
If a Polish couple has a child in Ireland and raises the child in Ireland and the child never leaves Irish soil, would you refer to the child as Irish?
YEs. because the child is born and raised in Ireland. The same way I will refer to my DD as american as she was born here and mostly likely will be raised here. I have met so many americans who say they are irish and who have never even been to Ireland - they say they are irish not american. I just dont understand the reasoning behind it. Why not just say you are american and your grannys, grannys, grannys first cousin three times removed left on the boat. Be proud of who you are thats all I am saying.
Because, if someone in this country asks me "what I am" I know they are asking about my heritage and I will answer Irish. If I was in Ireland (or any other country for that matter) and someone asked me "what I am" I would answer American.
Just because I'm American born (3rd generation) and have never been to Ireland doesn't make me any less proud of my Irish heritage.
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lilacwine
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Re: Hands up if you are 100% Irish
Posted by CoopersMom01
Posted by beachgirl
If a Polish couple has a child in Ireland and raises the child in Ireland and the child never leaves Irish soil, would you refer to the child as Irish?
YEs. because the child is born and raised in Ireland. The same way I will refer to my DD as american as she was born here and mostly likely will be raised here. I have met so many americans who say they are irish and who have never even been to Ireland - they say they are irish not american. I just dont understand the reasoning behind it. Why not just say you are american and your grannys, grannys, grannys first cousin three times removed left on the boat. Be proud of who you are thats all I am saying.
Because, if someone in this country asks me "what I am" I know they are asking about my heritage and I will answer Irish. If I was in Ireland (or any other country for that matter) and someone asked me "what I am" I would answer American.
Just because I'm American born (3rd generation) and have never been to Ireland doesn't make me any less proud of my Irish heritage.
Exactly. Being American is about citizenship, not ethnicity.
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shiv
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Re: Hands up if you are 100% Irish
Posted by beachgirl
If a Polish couple has a child in Ireland and raises the child in Ireland and the child never leaves Irish soil, would you refer to the child as Irish?
YEs. because the child is born and raised in Ireland. The same way I will refer to my DD as american as she was born here and mostly likely will be raised here. I have met so many americans who say they are irish and who have never even been to Ireland - they say they are irish not american. I just dont understand the reasoning behind it. Why not just say you are american and your grannys, grannys, grannys first cousin three times removed left on the boat. Be proud of who you are thats all I am saying.
so will you not raise your daughter with the traditions of being Irish, will you not pass on to her the things you cherish the most about your culture? If someone in the US asks her what she is, would you want her to deny she is Irish?
I just don't get why people get so upset about Americans identifying with their heritage. We are all here for a reason, and it's because our families came to the US for a better life. They brought with them all their cultures and they all melded together to form the American culture we have today. There's nothing wrong with identifying with your heritage, it's part of who you are and your families background.
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Kara
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Re: Hands up if you are 100% Irish
Posted by beachgirl
If a Polish couple has a child in Ireland and raises the child in Ireland and the child never leaves Irish soil, would you refer to the child as Irish?
YEs. because the child is born and raised in Ireland. The same way I will refer to my DD as american as she was born here and mostly likely will be raised here. I have met so many americans who say they are irish and who have never even been to Ireland - they say they are irish not american. I just dont understand the reasoning behind it. Why not just say you are american and your grannys, grannys, grannys first cousin three times removed left on the boat. Be proud of who you are thats all I am saying.
It's a matter of semantics. It's in no way a matter of denouncing one's American citizenship. If an American asks me what I am, they are asking me my cultural heritage -- they aren't asking me if I'm an American. They already know I'm an American. So, I answer Irish.
If I'm overseas (Ireland or wherever), and someone asks me what I am, I tell them I am an American.
No one is denoucning their American citizenship or their American culture. This is merely a matter of semantics and common jargon in the US.
This debate is starting to border on absurd. I really don't see what the big deal is.
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MrsRivera
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Re: Hands up if you are 100% Irish
Can I throw an analogy in here?
I moved to NC almost 9 months ago, after living in NY for the first 27 years of my life. We came to live in NC so we could make a better life for ourselves and our children--so we wouldn't have to struggle to make ends meet.
Since I no longer live in NY, should I say I'm from North Carolina? Even though that's where my roots are, and that's where I'm from originally?
Because I always answer, "I'm a New Yorker".
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yankinmanc
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Re: Hands up if you are 100% Irish
Posted by MrsRivera
Can I throw an analogy in here?
I moved to NC almost 9 months ago, after living in NY for the first 27 years of my life. We came to live in NC so we could make a better life for ourselves and our children--so we wouldn't have to struggle to make ends meet.
Since I no longer live in NY, should I say I'm from North Carolina? Even though that's where my roots are, and that's where I'm from originally?
Because I always answer, "I'm a New Yorker".
But your NC born children won't say that will they???
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CAMCaps
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Re: Hands up if you are 100% Irish
87% Irish
13% English
ETA: Like pp stated - I take this more as a heritage question. When people in America ask me what I am I would say my familial heritage. If I was outside of the US, I would say American.
Message edited 3/18/2008 9:10:56 PM.
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Janice
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Re: Hands up if you are 100% Irish
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But your NC born children won't say that will they???
yup...appalachian americans there is no changing the birth certificate
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donegal419
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Re: Hands up if you are 100% Irish
Posted by CAMCaps
87% Irish
13% English
ETA: Like pp stated - I take this more as a heritage question. When people in America ask me what I am I would say my familial heritage. If I was outside of the US, I would say American.
just wondering.. . how did you come up with that breakdown of percentages? usually it's a number that can be divided by 2, 4, 8, etc. to account for parents, grandparents, etc. just curious!
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nymommy2be
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Re: Hands up if you are 100% Irish
Me!
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MrsO
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Re: Hands up if you are 100% Irish
Me!!!!!!!!! and MY Dh is off the boat :)
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