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Re: Trump is a patronizing a$$hole fool.

Posted by MarisaK

I am NO Trum supporter ......but, HOW would HE have access to classified information?



Both candidates are briefed with classified info before they are elected.

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Re: Trump is a patronizing a$$hole fool.

Posted by MarisaK

I am NO Trum supporter ......but, HOW would HE have access to classified information?



Fair point but doesn't that make his blatant lying more egregious? You know there's a solid 50% of people who will read an article or watch a video where he says these things and they'll totally believe anything he spews.

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Posted 8/4/16 2:51 PM
 

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Re: Trump is a patronizing a$$hole fool.

Posted by klingklang77

Posted by MarisaK

I am NO Trum supporter ......but, HOW would HE have access to classified information?



Both candidates are briefed with classified info before they are elected.



REALLY ??? Wow - that is scary.

Posted 8/4/16 2:52 PM
 

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Re: Trump is a patronizing a$$hole fool.

Posted by MarisaK

I am NO Trum supporter ......but, HOW would HE have access to classified information?



Traditionally, the candidates from each party get "classified" briefings after their official nomination, and Election Day.

The level of classified information is usually very high-level, without a lot of detail, but it is still sensitive information.

Current and former government officials said the briefings were broad overviews of how American spy agencies see the state of the world, similar to the briefing that James R. Clapper Jr., the director of national intelligence, gives to Congress each year. The briefings will contain top secret information, but the candidates are given no information about covert action programs or the identities of intelligence sources.

Posted 8/4/16 2:53 PM
 

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Re: Trump is a patronizing a$$hole fool.

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Posted by MarisaK

I am NO Trum supporter ......but, HOW would HE have access to classified information?



Fair point but doesn't that make his blatant lying more egregious? You know there's a solid 50% of people who will read an article or watch a video where he says these things and they'll totally believe anything he spews.

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Oh absolutely - that's MY point. I was thinking to immediately assume he was lying b/c why would HE have classified information? But another poster said both candidates have access

Posted 8/4/16 2:54 PM
 

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Re: Trump is a patronizing a$$hole fool.

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by MarisaK

I am NO Trum supporter ......but, HOW would HE have access to classified information?



Traditionally, the candidates from each party get "classified" briefings after their official nomination, and Election Day.

The level of classified information is usually very high-level, without a lot of detail, but it is still sensitive information.

Current and former government officials said the briefings were broad overviews of how American spy agencies see the state of the world, similar to the briefing that James R. Clapper Jr., the director of national intelligence, gives to Congress each year. The briefings will contain top secret information, but the candidates are given no information about covert action programs or the identities of intelligence sources.



Interesting ......Thank you!

Posted 8/4/16 2:54 PM
 

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Re: Trump is a patronizing a$$hole fool.

Posted by MarisaK

Posted by eroxgirl

Posted by MarisaK

I am NO Trum supporter ......but, HOW would HE have access to classified information?



Fair point but doesn't that make his blatant lying more egregious? You know there's a solid 50% of people who will read an article or watch a video where he says these things and they'll totally believe anything he spews.

We are so f*(ked in this country. Chat Icon



Oh absolutely - that's MY point. I was thinking to immediately assume he was lying b/c why would HE have classified information? But another poster said both candidates have access



I learn so much on this board.. fascinating. And terrifying.

Posted 8/4/16 3:02 PM
 

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Re: Trump is a patronizing a$$hole fool.

Posted by eroxgirl

Posted by MarisaK

Posted by eroxgirl

Posted by MarisaK

I am NO Trum supporter ......but, HOW would HE have access to classified information?



Fair point but doesn't that make his blatant lying more egregious? You know there's a solid 50% of people who will read an article or watch a video where he says these things and they'll totally believe anything he spews.

We are so f*(ked in this country. Chat Icon



Oh absolutely - that's MY point. I was thinking to immediately assume he was lying b/c why would HE have classified information? But another poster said both candidates have access



I learn so much on this board.. fascinating. And terrifying.




From a CBS Article:

"CBS News asked several U.S. government sources to point us to the video. None knew of any such video. Did he see it in his first intelligence briefing?
No, he did not. Trump has yet to start receiving intelligence briefings. "[T]hose security briefings haven't started yet," his campaign chairman, Paul Manafort told Fox News' "Happening Now."

CBS News then asked the Trump campaign to identify the video Trump was talking about. A spokesperson pointed us to a clip that had aired on Fox News earlier in the day and said "He was referring to the B-roll footage in almost every broadcast."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fact-check-donald-trump-see-money-pouring-off-a-plane-in-iran/

Posted 8/4/16 4:31 PM
 

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Re: Trump is a patronizing a$$hole fool.

He's doubling down on this "top secret video" he saw...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-iran-video_us_57a3a58fe4b056bad214f633?


Donald Trump on Thursday repeated his false claim that he had watched a video of money being unloaded from a plane at an airport in Iran ? after his campaign acknowledged that such footage doesn’t exist.

“It was interesting because a tape was made, you saw that? With the airplane coming in?” Trump asked the crowd at a rally in Portland, Maine. “Nice plane. And the airplane coming and the money coming off, I guess. That was given to us, has to be, by the Iranians.

“And you know why the tape was given to us? Because they want to embarrass our country, and they want to embarrass our president,” Trump said.

It was the second time in two days that the Republican nominee for president claimed to have seen Iranian video of money being unloaded from a U.S. plane. He first made the claim Wednesday morning, during a rally in Daytona Beach, Florida, and said the video he had seen was “top secret.”

Trump’s spokeswoman told The Washington Post early Thursday that the candidate had actually seen publicly available footage of American citizens disembarking from a plane in Geneva in January. Spokeswoman Hope Hicks didn’t explain why Trump claimed the video was top secret Iranian military footage.



"If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself." - Joseph Goebbels

Posted 8/5/16 8:18 AM
 

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Re: Trump is a patronizing a$$hole fool.

Posted by GoldenRod

He's doubling down on this "top secret video" he saw...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-iran-video_us_57a3a58fe4b056bad214f633?


Donald Trump on Thursday repeated his false claim that he had watched a video of money being unloaded from a plane at an airport in Iran ? after his campaign acknowledged that such footage doesn’t exist.

“It was interesting because a tape was made, you saw that? With the airplane coming in?” Trump asked the crowd at a rally in Portland, Maine. “Nice plane. And the airplane coming and the money coming off, I guess. That was given to us, has to be, by the Iranians.

“And you know why the tape was given to us? Because they want to embarrass our country, and they want to embarrass our president,” Trump said.

It was the second time in two days that the Republican nominee for president claimed to have seen Iranian video of money being unloaded from a U.S. plane. He first made the claim Wednesday morning, during a rally in Daytona Beach, Florida, and said the video he had seen was “top secret.”

Trump’s spokeswoman told The Washington Post early Thursday that the candidate had actually seen publicly available footage of American citizens disembarking from a plane in Geneva in January. Spokeswoman Hope Hicks didn’t explain why Trump claimed the video was top secret Iranian military footage.



"If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself." - Joseph Goebbels



And now he is backtracking!!!

Article

Something is VERY wrong with this man. He completely fabricated a story, repeated it for two days, and is now saying what he saw was something completely different. This isn't even comical anymore, it is bizarre and scary.

Posted 8/5/16 9:29 AM
 

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Trump is a patronizing a$$hole fool.

I really want to know what the deal is. I'm wondering if he has a really bad speech writer - Maybe someone on his own campaign out to hurt him. Or did he really release something classified and has to cover up? Or is he getting dementia? I hope not, that would be sad, but if so, I hope he drops out.

Posted 8/5/16 10:16 AM
 

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Re: Trump is a patronizing a$$hole fool.

Posted by pumpkinmom

I really want to know what the deal is. I'm wondering if he has a really bad speech writer - Maybe someone on his own campaign out to hurt him. Or did he really release something classified and has to cover up? Or is he getting dementia? I hope not, that would be sad, but if so, I hope he drops out.



He repeatedly says he hates teleprompters (even though he does use them on occasion), so I don't think he's reading his speeches verbatim, even when he does get one.
According to several sources, neither he nor Hillary are getting classified briefings yet, so he's not releasing actual classified info.
I don't think it's dementia. He's been behaving this way for decades at least. There's plenty of documentation from lots of sources about his actions and behavior.

Posted 8/5/16 10:22 AM
 

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Trump is a patronizing a$$hole fool.




This sucks for people like me.. I'm definitely not voting for HRC but I can't vote for this fool either.


I keep hoping that America is on one big episode of pranked.

Posted 8/5/16 10:25 AM
 

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Re: Trump is a patronizing a$$hole fool.

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by pumpkinmom

I really want to know what the deal is. I'm wondering if he has a really bad speech writer - Maybe someone on his own campaign out to hurt him. Or did he really release something classified and has to cover up? Or is he getting dementia? I hope not, that would be sad, but if so, I hope he drops out.



He repeatedly says he hates teleprompters (even though he does use them on occasion), so I don't think he's reading his speeches verbatim, even when he does get one.
According to several sources, neither he nor Hillary are getting classified briefings yet, so he's not releasing actual classified info.
I don't think it's dementia. He's been behaving this way for decades at least. There's plenty of documentation from lots of sources about his actions and behavior.



Didn't Obama say yesterday that both candidates received classified info?

Message edited 8/5/2016 10:52:12 AM.

Posted 8/5/16 10:51 AM
 

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Re: Trump is a patronizing a$$hole fool.

Posted by stinger

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by pumpkinmom

I really want to know what the deal is. I'm wondering if he has a really bad speech writer - Maybe someone on his own campaign out to hurt him. Or did he really release something classified and has to cover up? Or is he getting dementia? I hope not, that would be sad, but if so, I hope he drops out.



He repeatedly says he hates teleprompters (even though he does use them on occasion), so I don't think he's reading his speeches verbatim, even when he does get one.
According to several sources, neither he nor Hillary are getting classified briefings yet, so he's not releasing actual classified info.
I don't think it's dementia. He's been behaving this way for decades at least. There's plenty of documentation from lots of sources about his actions and behavior.



Didn't Obama say yesterday that both candidates received classified info?



They're eligible, and Obama said he personally wouldn't prevent either candidate from receiving intel, but he would leave the exact info up to other people to figure out what to let each candidate know.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/nominations-bestowed-presidential-candidates-receive-classified-briefings/

Based on this page, it looks like they might start getting info next week, if they want.

Posted 8/5/16 11:11 AM
 

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Re: Trump is a patronizing a$$hole fool.

Posted by pumpkinmom

I really want to know what the deal is. I'm wondering if he has a really bad speech writer - Maybe someone on his own campaign out to hurt him. Or did he really release something classified and has to cover up? Or is he getting dementia? I hope not, that would be sad, but if so, I hope he drops out.



I really think there is something wrong with Trump. During his speeches he has a very difficult time conveying his thoughts in complete and well thought out sentences. Then I read a transcript of an interview that Trump had with The Washington Post and it is just so much worst reading what he says than hearing it. It really shows how he has a very difficult time focusing and speaking in an articulate and coherent way. He really doesn't make any sense.


Washington Post Transcript

Posted 8/5/16 11:19 AM
 

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Trump is a patronizing a$$hole fool.

Patton Oswalt posted this on his FB page and I thought it was interesting:

Patton Oswalt
10 hrs ·

Had a long talk with a therapist friend of mine this morning. It basically focused on Trump, and this sickness that seems to be in the air.

He reminded me (and I’d forgotten, from reading Rick Perlstein’s BEFORE THE STORM) of something called “The Goldwater Rule.”

When Barry Goldwater was running in ’64, against LBJ, a survey was sent to numerous psychiatrists, asking them to “diagnose” Goldwater. As the campaign went on Barry Goldwater’s speeches became more and more erratic and insane. Remember — Goldwater got the nomination on the strength of his rapid, frightening, stadium-packing crowds (Madison Square Garden, for chrissakes). The GOP establishment wanted nothing to do with him. They knew was crazy. They knew he’d implode. And he openly detested them. The GOP wanted Rockefeller, who couldn’t fill a phone booth.

Not every psychiatrist who received the survey answered it but a lot of them did and they soberly assessed Goldwater to be paranoid, grandiose and unstable.

After the election, in which Goldwater was destroyed, Goldwater’s handlers sued the psychiatrists. They settled for some undisclosed sum outside of court.

And that’s when “The Goldwater Rule” was established. It’s an unwritten rule among mental health professionals in which a diagnosis of a public figure should not be offered based on observation of their public behavior. Unless a one-on-one analysis can be made, they stay silent.

This is ironic now, said my friend, since Trump is so obviously insane and dangerous. Narcissistic, borderline personality, and anti-social. “All of these are obvious,” he explained to me. “A first year resident can see this.”

He then pointed out something even creepier...and ultimately hopeful.

In life, overall, there are two groups.

Predator and prey.

Predators can only survive if they DON'T play fair. In the wild, it’s why cheetahs go after the older gazelles, or the wounded gazelles, or the slower gazelles. They never challenge the alpha. What would be the point. It's too much work.

In society, predators triumph by causing fear in their prey, and then promising to protect the prey from the fear they’ve created. Thus, Trump’s followers. Human predators never go after the confident, stable and powerful. Again, too much work.

But here’s the hopeful part — predators ONLY have that one strategy. They can win if you respond to it, or attack it head on.

If Hillary tries to out-frighten or out-bully Trump, he wins. He’ll crush her.

But if she stays calm, and stays on message, and keeps hammering one or two points that everyone can agree on, then Trump has to keep sticking his neck further and further out. He has to think up crazier and crazier ways to scare people. And that means him eventually blurting out “******” or “****” or God knows what. I honestly can't think of what's left for him to spew, at this point.

Hillary’s been judo-ing predators her whole career. Ken Starr, and Gingrich, and Comey and the head of the FBI. And none of those guys operate at the lunatic pitch that Trump operates at.

The GOP knows this. That’s why they’ve stopped trying to reach Trump. They’re going to let him melt down these next few weeks until they look like sober heroes for stepping in and replacing him. They can’t step in now or they look like assholes. Or cowards.

Does Trump even speak to his people one-on-one anymore? I bet he just watches TV and scrolls the internet for alerts about himself. That’s probably why the people around him keep denouncing what he’s saying without pulling their endorsement. The denouncements in the press are the only way Trump will see them. His middle man is now his own ego.

We are living in a horror movie written by comedians and performed by maniacs using megaphones.

Sorry this wasn't funnier. I'm still working on that. I'll get there.

Posted 8/5/16 11:37 AM
 

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Re: Trump is a patronizing a$$hole fool.

Posted by jellybean78




This sucks for people like me.. I'm definitely not voting for HRC but I can't vote for this fool either.


I keep hoping that America is on one big episode of pranked.



All I can say is that I urge you, if you can, to vote for HRC if it looks like it might be close in the state you live in.

A vote for Johnson is also a vote for Trump. The alternative for voting against HRC is a vote for Trump.

All I ask is that you think about it, and if at election day you feel you can vote for her to prevent Trump for winning, I ask you to consider it.

Posted 8/5/16 11:46 AM
 

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Re: Trump is a patronizing a$$hole fool.

Posted by Funkybutt

Patton Oswalt posted this on his FB page and I thought it was interesting:

Patton Oswalt
10 hrs ·

Had a long talk with a therapist friend of mine this morning. It basically focused on Trump, and this sickness that seems to be in the air.

He reminded me (and I’d forgotten, from reading Rick Perlstein’s BEFORE THE STORM) of something called “The Goldwater Rule.”

When Barry Goldwater was running in ’64, against LBJ, a survey was sent to numerous psychiatrists, asking them to “diagnose” Goldwater. As the campaign went on Barry Goldwater’s speeches became more and more erratic and insane. Remember — Goldwater got the nomination on the strength of his rapid, frightening, stadium-packing crowds (Madison Square Garden, for chrissakes). The GOP establishment wanted nothing to do with him. They knew was crazy. They knew he’d implode. And he openly detested them. The GOP wanted Rockefeller, who couldn’t fill a phone booth.

Not every psychiatrist who received the survey answered it but a lot of them did and they soberly assessed Goldwater to be paranoid, grandiose and unstable.

After the election, in which Goldwater was destroyed, Goldwater’s handlers sued the psychiatrists. They settled for some undisclosed sum outside of court.

And that’s when “The Goldwater Rule” was established. It’s an unwritten rule among mental health professionals in which a diagnosis of a public figure should not be offered based on observation of their public behavior. Unless a one-on-one analysis can be made, they stay silent.

This is ironic now, said my friend, since Trump is so obviously insane and dangerous. Narcissistic, borderline personality, and anti-social. “All of these are obvious,” he explained to me. “A first year resident can see this.”

He then pointed out something even creepier...and ultimately hopeful.

In life, overall, there are two groups.

Predator and prey.

Predators can only survive if they DON'T play fair. In the wild, it’s why cheetahs go after the older gazelles, or the wounded gazelles, or the slower gazelles. They never challenge the alpha. What would be the point. It's too much work.

In society, predators triumph by causing fear in their prey, and then promising to protect the prey from the fear they’ve created. Thus, Trump’s followers. Human predators never go after the confident, stable and powerful. Again, too much work.

But here’s the hopeful part — predators ONLY have that one strategy. They can win if you respond to it, or attack it head on.

If Hillary tries to out-frighten or out-bully Trump, he wins. He’ll crush her.

But if she stays calm, and stays on message, and keeps hammering one or two points that everyone can agree on, then Trump has to keep sticking his neck further and further out. He has to think up crazier and crazier ways to scare people. And that means him eventually blurting out “******” or “****” or God knows what. I honestly can't think of what's left for him to spew, at this point.

Hillary’s been judo-ing predators her whole career. Ken Starr, and Gingrich, and Comey and the head of the FBI. And none of those guys operate at the lunatic pitch that Trump operates at.

The GOP knows this. That’s why they’ve stopped trying to reach Trump. They’re going to let him melt down these next few weeks until they look like sober heroes for stepping in and replacing him. They can’t step in now or they look like assholes. Or cowards.

Does Trump even speak to his people one-on-one anymore? I bet he just watches TV and scrolls the internet for alerts about himself. That’s probably why the people around him keep denouncing what he’s saying without pulling their endorsement. The denouncements in the press are the only way Trump will see them. His middle man is now his own ego.

We are living in a horror movie written by comedians and performed by maniacs using megaphones.

Sorry this wasn't funnier. I'm still working on that. I'll get there.



very interesting

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