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Re: Half time show
who is beyonce?
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People being dismissive of her bringing attention to a matter that we should all be concerned about is just blissful ignorance. Whether or not the Super Bowl was the right platform, it has gotten people talking and it's not like the head honchos at the Super Bowl didn't know what she was doing, performing or wearing. It was a political statement, they allowed it, and for better or worse denying the problem exists doesn't make it go away.
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Re: Half time show
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
I think you can be pro black lives matter without being anti police. The things that have happened & continue to happen in this day and age are atrocious. And not just with cops but also with situations like Katrina.
I just don't think that any time someone speaks out against the ills of law enforcement - (and let's not kid ourselves, no establishment is without its evils, it's flaws, with room for reform and/or improvement) - that suddenly you're disrespecting an entire force, you know? You're simply speaking up for the victims and desiring to better things as a whole for everyone.
I totally agree with this.
However, I think communication is a major issue.
The "black lives matter" ideology is too often delivered in a way that damages the cause.
I did not see the halftime show - if the Giants don't make it to the Superbowl I couldn't care less - but I do think Beyonce sitting on top of a sinking police car is in poor taste.
Yes, I hold the concept of free speech as dear as anyone else. But just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
On the flip side, people who take the opposite view are very quick to label some as "anti police" when all they want is to be treated fairly.
If people on both sides made their statements more thoughtfully maybe we'd get somewhere.
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Re: Half time show
Posted by gina409
My opinion aside on the message/idea/or whatever the video is about
That is one of the stupidest songs I ever heard,and i like her Music
When my man **ck me
Good I take him
To red lobster??? This is music now??
This is exactly how I feel. After hearing about this I looked up the lyrics of the song to try & get an idea of what it is all about. Who wrote that?! I don't even understand most of what she's saying in the song! The video is a pretty clear representation of what she thinks & how she feels, but the lyrics to the song are like poorly written gibberish to me. Without going into my own thoughts & opinions, I feel like hers would have had a much bigger impact if the song had been eloquently written instead of that random nonsense.
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Re: Half time show
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
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I dont like her or her husband
I thought it was in poor taste to push the divide even further when the end of the halftime show was obviously about bringing everyone together in love
See and I interpreted that as this: we have an obvious issue with race relations in modern times, and it has been thrust in the light the last few years in law enforcement situations and catapuled via social media. Let's work to fix that problem on both sides (cops and civilians - namely, the bad apples on each side) and the the rest of us law abiding citizens and good cops all come together in love and peace to fix things as one whole. I just don't think there's a divide between cops and the public. Police are always thank and commend them and anyone in their right mind respects them and all they do. Many of us have LE in our families. We know what they sacrifice.
But can we make things better? I believe so. Can we maybe have police forces look more like the communities they serve? Can we get body cameras? More roles for police in the community to build better relations and trust? Can there be a better way that others on the force can report cops who are a using their power? Can we reevaluate the roles and use of force? It would serve to better protect cops, as well.
All the good people benefit on each side. Not looking to debate anyone , everyone has her own opinion on this but I do think it's an important topic.
Art, in any form, is open for interpretation.
This is yours and mine still stands at it was in poor taste for the venue and the message being sent as a whole.
But I can see your side as well.
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Posted by EatingMyVeggies
Mmm I don't know if I like the term anti police.
I don't think she (or most law abiding people) are anti police. I think we have some issues that need fixing regarding law enforcement - especially in regards to race matters.
I think you can be pro black lives matter without being anti police. The things that have happened & continue to happen in this day and age are atrocious. And not just with cops but also with situations like Katrina.
I just don't think that any time someone speaks out against the ills of law enforcement - (and let's not kid ourselves, no establishment is without its evils, it's flaws, with room for reform and/or improvement) - that suddenly you're disrespecting an entire force, you know? You're simply speaking up for the victims and desiring to better things as a whole for everyone.
All in all, I think those who believe in the notion of systemic racism aren't going to see an issue with beyonces video or performance.
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Posted by gina409
My opinion aside on the message/idea/or whatever the video is about
That is one of the stupidest songs I ever heard,and i like her Music
When my man **ck me
Good I take him
To red lobster??? This is music now??
Well look, let's be real. Those red lobster biscuits are damn good.
Yeah i'm no fan of her at all!
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BTW what i find interesting is at the end of the video, she drowns along with the police car.
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BTW what i find interesting is at the end of the video, she drowns along with the police car.
And I felt that was a nod to all those who suffered in Katrina and were ignored.
In one of the recent debates a candidate said "when do we ever let our own people suffer" (I'm paraphrasing) and she tweeted a pic in reference of Katrina. I think that's what went down. I'm looking it up now.
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Half time show
My issue with her and her video and performance is this. If it were the other way around, Al Sharpton and his band of cronies would be out crucifying whoever did it. I HATE double standards. I understand they want equality and fair treatment, but this is NOT the way to do it. I feel like she just further pushed the divide and didnt benefit anyone.
Plus, she USED to be such a class act. Since when does she rap and use profanity in her performances? I wish she would go back to the days of Destiny's Child.
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Re: Half time show
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
Mmm I don't know if I like the term anti police.
I don't think she (or most law abiding people) are anti police. I think we have some issues that need fixing regarding law enforcement - especially in regards to race matters.
I think you can be pro black lives matter without being anti police. The things that have happened & continue to happen in this day and age are atrocious. And not just with cops but also with situations like Katrina.
I just don't think that any time someone speaks out against the ills of law enforcement - (and let's not kid ourselves, no establishment is without its evils, it's flaws, with room for reform and/or improvement) - that suddenly you're disrespecting an entire force, you know? You're simply speaking up for the victims and desiring to better things as a whole for everyone.
All in all, I think those who believe in the notion of systemic racism aren't going to see an issue with beyonces video or performance.
Well said  .
I think it is so important to keep talking about this-- no matter how uncomfortable it might make one feel. Just imagine how the discriminated feel?
People need to realize their privilege and different microaggressions that they may do unknowingly.
That said, I never liked Beyonce's music. NMS.
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Re: Half time show
Posted by soontobemommyof2
I think the issue was what the black panthers represented, justice to the mistreating of a minority, even if violence is needed, which is so different from what Marting Luther King preached, pretty much the same thing BUT without the violence.
I think you need to read up a bit more on the Black Panthers, TBH.
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Re: Half time show
Posted by angelicd77
My issue with her and her video and performance is this. If it were the other way around, Al Sharpton and his band of cronies would be out crucifying whoever did it. I HATE double standards. I understand they want equality and fair treatment, but this is NOT the way to do it. I feel like she just further pushed the divide and didnt benefit anyone.
Plus, she USED to be such a class act. Since when does she rap and use profanity in her performances? I wish she would go back to the days of Destiny's Child.
There are plenty of performances that feature only white dancers, backup singers, etc. Do you see black people up in arms?
And furthermore, she can only be a likable entertainer as long as she lives up to white standards of acceptability? What exactly IS the correct way to "want equality and fair treatment?" They can only be equal and treated fairly if they do what white people want? It is not the sole responsibiltiy of people of color to tear down the system that was built to oppress them.
Please.
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Posted by soontobemommyof2
I think the issue was what the black panthers represented, justice to the mistreating of a minority, even if violence is needed, which is so different from what Marting Luther King preached, pretty much the same thing BUT without the violence.
I think you need to read up a bit more on the Black Panthers, TBH.
Agreed. Including and especially their 10 point program.
In my eyes, and JmO, but as long as disgusting hillbilly shit like the KKK still exists and racism exists - I have not a single damn issue with the history of the Black Panthers or the modern day Black Lives Matter movement or Beyoncé or any other system or person that has to continually fight for basic equality and for people to open their eyes.
And it's so disheartening to see people not understanding. I see it all the time - people rolling their eyes at BLM. I'll never understand it.
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Re: Half time show
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
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Posted by soontobemommyof2
I think the issue was what the black panthers represented, justice to the mistreating of a minority, even if violence is needed, which is so different from what Marting Luther King preached, pretty much the same thing BUT without the violence.
I think you need to read up a bit more on the Black Panthers, TBH.
Agreed. Including and especially their 10 point program.
In my eyes, and JmO, but as long as disgusting hillbilly shit like the KKK still exists and racism exists - I have not a single damn issue with the history of the Black Panthers or the modern day Black Lives Matter movement or Beyoncé or any other system or person that has to continually fight for basic equality and for people to open their eyes.
And it's so disheartening to see people not understanding. I see it all the time - people rolling their eyes at BLM. I'll never understand it.
There is a documentary coming up about them:
http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/films/the-black-panthers-vanguard-of-the-revolution/
I haven't seen it, and I won't be able to stream it, but I'm hoping I'll find a link to watch it somewhere online.
I'm also reading about them more now.
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Re: Half time show
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Apparently if you watch the video for the song it is very anti-police. I saw a still shot of her sitting on a sinking New Orleans police car. I won't watch it because I can't stand her (way before this controversy). Her dancers were holding up signs after the show, etc. Their outfits were a nod to the Black Panthers. There were rumors she had a police escort to the show, so people are up in arms because of the hypocrisy of that. I am so over her, have been for years. hate her entitles, queen of the world attitude, and her husband's too!
Same here. I can't stand anything about her anymore. I didn't watch it and won't.
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Re: Half time show
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Posted by EatingMyVeggies
Mmm I don't know if I like the term anti police.
I don't think she (or most law abiding people) are anti police. I think we have some issues that need fixing regarding law enforcement - especially in regards to race matters.
I think you can be pro black lives matter without being anti police. The things that have happened & continue to happen in this day and age are atrocious. And not just with cops but also with situations like Katrina.
I just don't think that any time someone speaks out against the ills of law enforcement - (and let's not kid ourselves, no establishment is without its evils, it's flaws, with room for reform and/or improvement) - that suddenly you're disrespecting an entire force, you know? You're simply speaking up for the victims and desiring to better things as a whole for everyone.
All in all, I think those who believe in the notion of systemic racism aren't going to see an issue with beyonces video or performance.
I agree.
And not for nothing - saying she should just "entertain" marginalizes and diminishes the platform that she has among her own people to discuss matters that are vital, important and necessary to them. It's not the place of any person to tell her what she should or should not be doing, that she has no right to feel how she feels, or oppress her voice.
If it's not for you, or you don't like the message, keep it moving. Chances are you'll never be on the side of police brutality anyway.
I kinda agree. People keep saying she is un-American, but, as Americans, we all have freedom of speech.
I support our police force and have many friends that are officers who are wonderful people that have my utmost respect. However, this mentality of "your with us or your against us" doesn't sit well with me.
I agree.
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Re: Half time show
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
I dont like her or her husband
I thought it was in poor taste to push the divide even further when the end of the halftime show was obviously about bringing everyone together in love
ITA
I was appalled when I saw the video for Formation even before the halftime show. For me, I'm much more uncomfortable with her objectification of African Americans, like she's stereotyping her own people?  Or was she making a statement like "What white people think we're like" : "what we're really like" IDK
The black power salute was there. The outfits were there. On purpose. and IMO, in poor taste.
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Re: Half time show
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
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Posted by soontobemommyof2
I think the issue was what the black panthers represented, justice to the mistreating of a minority, even if violence is needed, which is so different from what Marting Luther King preached, pretty much the same thing BUT without the violence.
I think you need to read up a bit more on the Black Panthers, TBH.
Agreed. Including and especially their 10 point program.
In my eyes, and JmO, but as long as disgusting hillbilly shit like the KKK still exists and racism exists - I have not a single damn issue with the history of the Black Panthers or the modern day Black Lives Matter movement or Beyoncé or any other system or person that has to continually fight for basic equality and for people to open their eyes.
And it's so disheartening to see people not understanding. I see it all the time - people rolling their eyes at BLM. I'll never understand it.
I think it really speaks to the fact that people just can't admit that there is a system of oppression in this country that has been designed to marginalize people of our communities and that by being complacent to that struggle, they are in turn upholding it.
We need to stop using derailment techniques in conversations about racism.
No more "I'm not racist but..."
Not more interrupting when people of color are sharing their experiences.
No more "if only they would just..."
No more centering the conversation around yourself.
No more "there were white slaves too..."
The whole wide world is white-centric. The norm is white-centric...whether it's toys, music, movies...white is always the default. Our society has allowed the tokenization and exploitation of minority groups for thousands of years. People of color simply don't exist to entertain you, or to be oppressed, or to be told their problems are their own fault and if they could just pull themselves up by their bootstraps then bygolly they too could live a peaceful and happy existence.
They have struggles and feelings and experiences that are completely unique to themselves and it is not the place of anyone else to tell them they are wrong. I have no business coming out of my face on social media and saying "Beyonce, you're experiences should not interfere with your art, your job is to entertain us with harmless hip hop that never has to make us think too deeply about society. Stick to Bootylicious and white people will still like you!"
We don't live in a post-racial society. It's not the job of the oppressed to dismantle the oppressive system. People need to stop being glib and thinking that "if we could all just come together" everything would be just fine." It's not that simple - oversimplifying this issue is so incredible harmful.
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Cool thanks. I just set my dvr for it
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Re: Half time show
Posted by Kitten1929
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by soontobemommyof2
I think the issue was what the black panthers represented, justice to the mistreating of a minority, even if violence is needed, which is so different from what Marting Luther King preached, pretty much the same thing BUT without the violence.
I think you need to read up a bit more on the Black Panthers, TBH.
Agreed. Including and especially their 10 point program.
In my eyes, and JmO, but as long as disgusting hillbilly shit like the KKK still exists and racism exists - I have not a single damn issue with the history of the Black Panthers or the modern day Black Lives Matter movement or Beyoncé or any other system or person that has to continually fight for basic equality and for people to open their eyes.
And it's so disheartening to see people not understanding. I see it all the time - people rolling their eyes at BLM. I'll never understand it.
I think it really speaks to the fact that people just can't admit that there is a system of oppression in this country that has been designed to marginalize people of our communities and that by being complacent to that struggle, they are in turn upholding it.
We need to stop using derailment techniques in conversations about racism.
No more "I'm not racist but..."
Not more interrupting when people of color are sharing their experiences.
No more "if only they would just..."
No more centering the conversation around yourself.
No more "there were white slaves too..."
The whole wide world is white-centric. The norm is white-centric...whether it's toys, music, movies...white is always the default. Our society has allowed the tokenization and exploitation of minority groups for thousands of years. People of color simply don't exist to entertain you, or to be oppressed, or to be told their problems are their own fault and if they could just pull themselves up by their bootstraps then bygolly they too could live a peaceful and happy existence.
They have struggles and feelings and experiences that are completely unique to themselves and it is not the place of anyone else to tell them they are wrong. I have no business coming out of my face on social media and saying "Beyonce, you're experiences should not interfere with your art, your job is to entertain us with harmless hip hop that never has to make us think too deeply about society. Stick to Bootylicious and white people will still like you!"
We don't live in a post-racial society. It's not the job of the oppressed to dismantle the oppressive system. People need to stop being glib and thinking that "if we could all just come together" everything would be just fine." It's not that simple - oversimplifying this issue is so incredible harmful.
Well said .
If I may add this microaggression link to add to your things we should not say "if only..." etc.
http://www.ucop.edu/academic-personnel-programs/_files/seminars/Tool_Recognizing_Microaggressions.pdf
And if you say you have never done any of those microaggressions, you are a liar.
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Re: Half time show
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Kitten1929
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by soontobemommyof2
I think the issue was what the black panthers represented, justice to the mistreating of a minority, even if violence is needed, which is so different from what Marting Luther King preached, pretty much the same thing BUT without the violence.
I think you need to read up a bit more on the Black Panthers, TBH.
Agreed. Including and especially their 10 point program.
In my eyes, and JmO, but as long as disgusting hillbilly shit like the KKK still exists and racism exists - I have not a single damn issue with the history of the Black Panthers or the modern day Black Lives Matter movement or Beyoncé or any other system or person that has to continually fight for basic equality and for people to open their eyes.
And it's so disheartening to see people not understanding. I see it all the time - people rolling their eyes at BLM. I'll never understand it.
I think it really speaks to the fact that people just can't admit that there is a system of oppression in this country that has been designed to marginalize people of our communities and that by being complacent to that struggle, they are in turn upholding it.
We need to stop using derailment techniques in conversations about racism.
No more "I'm not racist but..."
Not more interrupting when people of color are sharing their experiences.
No more "if only they would just..."
No more centering the conversation around yourself.
No more "there were white slaves too..."
The whole wide world is white-centric. The norm is white-centric...whether it's toys, music, movies...white is always the default. Our society has allowed the tokenization and exploitation of minority groups for thousands of years. People of color simply don't exist to entertain you, or to be oppressed, or to be told their problems are their own fault and if they could just pull themselves up by their bootstraps then bygolly they too could live a peaceful and happy existence.
They have struggles and feelings and experiences that are completely unique to themselves and it is not the place of anyone else to tell them they are wrong. I have no business coming out of my face on social media and saying "Beyonce, you're experiences should not interfere with your art, your job is to entertain us with harmless hip hop that never has to make us think too deeply about society. Stick to Bootylicious and white people will still like you!"
We don't live in a post-racial society. It's not the job of the oppressed to dismantle the oppressive system. People need to stop being glib and thinking that "if we could all just come together" everything would be just fine." It's not that simple - oversimplifying this issue is so incredible harmful.
Well said .
If I may add this microaggression link to add to your things we should not say "if only..." etc.
http://www.ucop.edu/academic-personnel-programs/_files/seminars/Tool_Recognizing_Microaggressions.pdf
And if you say you have never done any of those microaggressions, you are a liar.
This is a great link. Thanks for posting it!
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Posted by Kitten1929
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by soontobemommyof2
I think the issue was what the black panthers represented, justice to the mistreating of a minority, even if violence is needed, which is so different from what Marting Luther King preached, pretty much the same thing BUT without the violence.
I think you need to read up a bit more on the Black Panthers, TBH.
Agreed. Including and especially their 10 point program.
In my eyes, and JmO, but as long as disgusting hillbilly shit like the KKK still exists and racism exists - I have not a single damn issue with the history of the Black Panthers or the modern day Black Lives Matter movement or Beyoncé or any other system or person that has to continually fight for basic equality and for people to open their eyes.
And it's so disheartening to see people not understanding. I see it all the time - people rolling their eyes at BLM. I'll never understand it.
I think it really speaks to the fact that people just can't admit that there is a system of oppression in this country that has been designed to marginalize people of our communities and that by being complacent to that struggle, they are in turn upholding it.
We need to stop using derailment techniques in conversations about racism.
No more "I'm not racist but..."
Not more interrupting when people of color are sharing their experiences.
No more "if only they would just..."
No more centering the conversation around yourself.
No more "there were white slaves too..."
The whole wide world is white-centric. The norm is white-centric...whether it's toys, music, movies...white is always the default. Our society has allowed the tokenization and exploitation of minority groups for thousands of years. People of color simply don't exist to entertain you, or to be oppressed, or to be told their problems are their own fault and if they could just pull themselves up by their bootstraps then bygolly they too could live a peaceful and happy existence.
They have struggles and feelings and experiences that are completely unique to themselves and it is not the place of anyone else to tell them they are wrong. I have no business coming out of my face on social media and saying "Beyonce, you're experiences should not interfere with your art, your job is to entertain us with harmless hip hop that never has to make us think too deeply about society. Stick to Bootylicious and white people will still like you!"
We don't live in a post-racial society. It's not the job of the oppressed to dismantle the oppressive system. People need to stop being glib and thinking that "if we could all just come together" everything would be just fine." It's not that simple - oversimplifying this issue is so incredible harmful.
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Re: Half time show
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by Kitten1929
Posted by EatingMyVeggies
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by soontobemommyof2
I think the issue was what the black panthers represented, justice to the mistreating of a minority, even if violence is needed, which is so different from what Marting Luther King preached, pretty much the same thing BUT without the violence.
I think you need to read up a bit more on the Black Panthers, TBH.
Agreed. Including and especially their 10 point program.
In my eyes, and JmO, but as long as disgusting hillbilly shit like the KKK still exists and racism exists - I have not a single damn issue with the history of the Black Panthers or the modern day Black Lives Matter movement or Beyoncé or any other system or person that has to continually fight for basic equality and for people to open their eyes.
And it's so disheartening to see people not understanding. I see it all the time - people rolling their eyes at BLM. I'll never understand it.
I think it really speaks to the fact that people just can't admit that there is a system of oppression in this country that has been designed to marginalize people of our communities and that by being complacent to that struggle, they are in turn upholding it.
We need to stop using derailment techniques in conversations about racism.
No more "I'm not racist but..."
Not more interrupting when people of color are sharing their experiences.
No more "if only they would just..."
No more centering the conversation around yourself.
No more "there were white slaves too..."
The whole wide world is white-centric. The norm is white-centric...whether it's toys, music, movies...white is always the default. Our society has allowed the tokenization and exploitation of minority groups for thousands of years. People of color simply don't exist to entertain you, or to be oppressed, or to be told their problems are their own fault and if they could just pull themselves up by their bootstraps then bygolly they too could live a peaceful and happy existence.
They have struggles and feelings and experiences that are completely unique to themselves and it is not the place of anyone else to tell them they are wrong. I have no business coming out of my face on social media and saying "Beyonce, you're experiences should not interfere with your art, your job is to entertain us with harmless hip hop that never has to make us think too deeply about society. Stick to Bootylicious and white people will still like you!"
We don't live in a post-racial society. It's not the job of the oppressed to dismantle the oppressive system. People need to stop being glib and thinking that "if we could all just come together" everything would be just fine." It's not that simple - oversimplifying this issue is so incredible harmful.
Well said .
If I may add this microaggression link to add to your things we should not say "if only..." etc.
http://www.ucop.edu/academic-personnel-programs/_files/seminars/Tool_Recognizing_Microaggressions.pdf
And if you say you have never done any of those microaggressions, you are a liar.
Veggies, KlangKlang, Kitten...so well said!
And thanks for the link.
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soontobemommyof2
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Re: Half time show
Posted by klingklang77
Posted by soontobemommyof2
I think the issue was what the black panthers represented, justice to the mistreating of a minority, even if violence is needed, which is so different from what Marting Luther King preached, pretty much the same thing BUT without the violence.
I think you need to read up a bit more on the Black Panthers, TBH.
There is so much TBP fought for, great causes, more or less the same ideals that MLK had except the violence and I think that was what made some ppl have some issues regarding beyonce's performance/message.
I made a quick research to show u what I was referring too:
"The Black Panthers believed that the non-violent campaign ofMartin Luther King had failed and any promised changes to their lifestyle via the ‘traditional’ civil rights movement, would take too long to be implemented or simply not introduced. The language of the Black Panthers was violent as was their public stance. The two founders of the Black Panther Party were Huey Percy Newton and Bobby Seale. They preached for a “revolutionary war” but though they considered themselves an African-American party, they were willing to speak out for all those who were oppressed from whatever minority group. They were willing to use violence to get what they wanted."
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