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Re: Heroin on Long Island
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Naive question- how do you know it was a heroin needle? As opposed to any other kind of drug that people shoot?
We call the cops when we find them and the cops told us they were heroin. My 9 year old was riding her bike and found about 10 needles in a bike trail behind our house. I believe we live in the same town as you. Such a shame!
If we do, I live right behind that bike trail- actually my house backs the Sump that part of the bike trail runs against. I heard of drug use back there, but we are most bothered by the constant, illegal dirt bikes back there and have been working with the police on that....to not much avail, sadly
Yea the quads don't bother me. I've been here 13 years and they've always been here. Heroin needles are a bigger deal IMO.
We literally cannot use our backyard on certain days- the noise is so bad from them that you cannot hear yourself speak. Neighbors who don't have the sump as a buffer like we do get clouds of dirt kicked up so bad they can't eat outside. We are actually working with PSE&G now, as they own the property and they have installed cameras, etc.
Im glad they are listening and being proactive!
Yes I'm the neighborhood big mouth. Naturally, I freaked out because it was my kid who almost touched them. I think any parent would have the same reaction. We've been seeing police patrol a lot more down here, so that's good!
Had to come back to this post, my neighbor just told DH that there have been 6 arrests of people illegally back there in that sump/bike path so far and we are already noticing less activity back there. So the extra patrols you are seeing are apparently helping.
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Re: Heroin on Long Island
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The problem is prescription narcotics. Oxy, Vicodin and the like. People get addicted to them, then they can't get more prescriptions, or they can't afford it, so they turn to heroin. It's cheaper and easier to get.
The doctors and pharmacists really need to be monitored and maybe not give these prescriptions out so easily. Something does need to be done and It needs to start with these pills!
They are. In NYS there is something called the Prescription Monitoring Program. Physicians and Pharmacists alike must check the online database PRIOR to writing a narcotic (any control substance) prescription, and for pharmacists, this would be prior to dispensing the drug. The website updates in real time and lists EVERY controlled substance the patient fills at the pharmacy in NY. MOST doctors are VERY hesitant to write these prescriptions these days because it is so heavily monitored. Most will refer out to a pain management physician (often a neurologist) who specializes in pain management (not just drugs, but other treatments such as epidural and trigger point injections). They have patients sign contracts, they see them monthly, do monthly urine screens, etc. It's actually NOT that easy to get pain meds anymore.
Just saw this in the Daily News. Upper West Side doctor and wife arrested
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Re: Heroin on Long Island
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Naive question- how do you know it was a heroin needle? As opposed to any other kind of drug that people shoot?
We call the cops when we find them and the cops told us they were heroin. My 9 year old was riding her bike and found about 10 needles in a bike trail behind our house. I believe we live in the same town as you. Such a shame!
If we do, I live right behind that bike trail- actually my house backs the Sump that part of the bike trail runs against. I heard of drug use back there, but we are most bothered by the constant, illegal dirt bikes back there and have been working with the police on that....to not much avail, sadly
Yea the quads don't bother me. I've been here 13 years and they've always been here. Heroin needles are a bigger deal IMO.
We literally cannot use our backyard on certain days- the noise is so bad from them that you cannot hear yourself speak. Neighbors who don't have the sump as a buffer like we do get clouds of dirt kicked up so bad they can't eat outside. We are actually working with PSE&G now, as they own the property and they have installed cameras, etc.
Im glad they are listening and being proactive!
Yes I'm the neighborhood big mouth. Naturally, I freaked out because it was my kid who almost touched them. I think any parent would have the same reaction. We've been seeing police patrol a lot more down here, so that's good!
Had to come back to this post, my neighbor just told DH that there have been 6 arrests of people illegally back there in that sump/bike path so far and we are already noticing less activity back there. So the extra patrols you are seeing are apparently helping.
Great!!!
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jessnbrian
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Re: Heroin on Long Island
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Posted by Pinkisles
The problem is prescription narcotics. Oxy, Vicodin and the like. People get addicted to them, then they can't get more prescriptions, or they can't afford it, so they turn to heroin. It's cheaper and easier to get.
The doctors and pharmacists really need to be monitored and maybe not give these prescriptions out so easily. Something does need to be done and It needs to start with these pills!
They are. In NYS there is something called the Prescription Monitoring Program. Physicians and Pharmacists alike must check the online database PRIOR to writing a narcotic (any control substance) prescription, and for pharmacists, this would be prior to dispensing the drug. The website updates in real time and lists EVERY controlled substance the patient fills at the pharmacy in NY. MOST doctors are VERY hesitant to write these prescriptions these days because it is so heavily monitored. Most will refer out to a pain management physician (often a neurologist) who specializes in pain management (not just drugs, but other treatments such as epidural and trigger point injections). They have patients sign contracts, they see them monthly, do monthly urine screens, etc. It's actually NOT that easy to get pain meds anymore.
Just saw in the Daily News. Upper West Side doctor and wife arrested
Good! Thats what the PMP is supposed to do!
ETA : I find it so sad that he spent a career servicing the underprivileged with his family practice catering to Medicaid patients just to ruin his life and career like this.
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Re: Heroin on Long Island
Posted by Pinkisles
The problem is prescription narcotics. Oxy, Vicodin and the like. People get addicted to them, then they can't get more prescriptions, or they can't afford it, so they turn to heroin. It's cheaper and easier to get.
The doctors and pharmacists really need to be monitored and maybe not give these prescriptions out so easily. Something does need to be done and It needs to start with these pills!
ITA with this!! I had an injury recently where I wound up in the emergency room twice and although I was in dire pain, I refused opiates. But the Drs. were actually so quick to offer them. Second dr went through the list, oxycodine, hydrocodone, etc. Looked at me like I had 10 heads when I told him I didn't want an opiate and said well your kind of out of luck as far as pain is concerned. Same thing after I gave birth. And my husband was also injured a few times in the past few years. Different emergency rooms and drs. Same scenario and question " what do you want?" Really ??? Doctors are still way too quick to prescribe opiates despite the epidemic. I know of at least three stories of people getting hooked on pain pills this way. ETA, I agree with a previous poster that this is the start of some people getting hooked on heroin. After a while , the heroin or other illegal street drugs are cheaper and easier to get then the prescriptions.
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Re: Heroin on Long Island
Posted by Summergirl
Posted by Pinkisles
The problem is prescription narcotics. Oxy, Vicodin and the like. People get addicted to them, then they can't get more prescriptions, or they can't afford it, so they turn to heroin. It's cheaper and easier to get.
The doctors and pharmacists really need to be monitored and maybe not give these prescriptions out so easily. Something does need to be done and It needs to start with these pills!
ITA with this!! I had an injury recently where I wound up in the emergency room twice and although I was in dire pain, I refused opiates. But the Drs. were actually so quick to offer them. Second dr went through the list, oxycodine, hydrocodone, etc. Looked at me like I had 10 heads when I told him I didn't want an opiate and said well your kind of out of luck as far as pain is concerned. Same thing after I gave birth. And my husband was also injured a few times in the past few years. Different emergency rooms and drs. Same scenario and question " what do you want?" Really ??? Doctors are still way too quick to prescribe opiates despite the epidemic. I know of at least three stories of people getting hooked on pain pills this way.
I too am DEATHLY afraid of narcotics. I have kidney stones and the pain is worse than childbirth. No joke. Even then I hesitate to take a vicodin. I was crawling on the floor, writing in pain and finally broke down and took a half. I don't like the way it makes me feel, but I also fear how easy it is to get addicted. It's no joke. I would rather go the route of 800 mg of ibuprofen (4 advil if you don't have a script for it) That will take the edge off and at least it's not addictive
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Re: Heroin on Long Island
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ITA with this!! I had an injury recently where I wound up in the emergency room twice and although I was in dire pain, I refused opiates. But the Drs. were actually so quick to offer them. Second dr went through the list, oxycodine, hydrocodone, etc. Looked at me like I had 10 heads when I told him I didn't want an opiate and said well your kind of out of luck as far as pain is concerned. Same thing after I gave birth. And my husband was also injured a few times in the past few years. Different emergency rooms and drs. Same scenario and question " what do you want?" Really ??? Doctors are still way too quick to prescribe opiates despite the epidemic. I know of at least three stories of people getting hooked on pain pills this way. ETA, I agree with a previous poster that this is the start of some people getting hooked on heroin. After a while , the heroin or other illegal street drugs are cheaper and easier to get then the prescriptions.
Same here. I had surgery a few yrs ago and they wanted to give me Percocet or Vicodin and I can't take those. I told the drs I get very sick on them. They still wanted me take them just break the pill in half! I refused and they said well you're going to need something for pain. So they gave me tylenol w/codeine.
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Re: Heroin on Long Island
I too am DEATHLY afraid of narcotics. I have kidney stones and the pain is worse than childbirth. No joke. Even then I hesitate to take a vicodin. I was crawling on the floor, writing in pain and finally broke down and took a half. I don't like the way it makes me feel, but I also fear how easy it is to get addicted. It's no joke. I would rather go the route of 800 mg of ibuprofen (4 advil if you don't have a script for it) That will take the edge off and at least it's not addictive
I agree with you on everything you said.
I had a quick horrific labor with no epidural ( not by choice) and refused opiates then, and my recent injury was just as painful. I asked for motrin for part of the same reason. It is too easy to get addicted to pain pills and no one is immune.
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NervousNell
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Re: Heroin on Long Island
Posted by MsSissy
Posted by Summergirl
ITA with this!! I had an injury recently where I wound up in the emergency room twice and although I was in dire pain, I refused opiates. But the Drs. were actually so quick to offer them. Second dr went through the list, oxycodine, hydrocodone, etc. Looked at me like I had 10 heads when I told him I didn't want an opiate and said well your kind of out of luck as far as pain is concerned. Same thing after I gave birth. And my husband was also injured a few times in the past few years. Different emergency rooms and drs. Same scenario and question " what do you want?" Really ??? Doctors are still way too quick to prescribe opiates despite the epidemic. I know of at least three stories of people getting hooked on pain pills this way. ETA, I agree with a previous poster that this is the start of some people getting hooked on heroin. After a while , the heroin or other illegal street drugs are cheaper and easier to get then the prescriptions.
Same here. I had surgery a few yrs ago and they wanted to give me Percocet or Vicodin and I can't take those. I told the drs I get very sick on them. They still wanted me take them just break the pill in half! I refused and they said well you're going to need something for pain. So they gave me tylenol w/codeine.
Tylenol with Codeine is pretty much the same as Vicodin, fyi. Codeine is most definitely a narcotic
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jessnbrian
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Heroin on Long Island
Yup, codeine is... there is also guaifenesine w/ codeine (a cough syrup) that they give when you have a very serious cough (like pneumonia kind of cough, not like a regular cold cough). None of the drugs do anything for me, except dull pain I have when I'm in it, so I never got the appeal of them, recreationally. I didn't need anything but ibuprofen after my c-section, and after my gallbladder surgery, I just took regular over the counter tylenol. Every doctor I have worked for in the past 5-7 years has been VERY hesitant to prescribe narcotics... but I am also very picky about who I work for. I won't work for a bad doctor.
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Re: Heroin on Long Island
Posted by jessnbrian
Posted by Pinkisles
The problem is prescription narcotics. Oxy, Vicodin and the like. People get addicted to them, then they can't get more prescriptions, or they can't afford it, so they turn to heroin. It's cheaper and easier to get.
The doctors and pharmacists really need to be monitored and maybe not give these prescriptions out so easily. Something does need to be done and It needs to start with these pills!
They are. In NYS there is something called the Prescription Monitoring Program. Physicians and Pharmacists alike must check the online database PRIOR to writing a narcotic (any control substance) prescription, and for pharmacists, this would be prior to dispensing the drug. The website updates in real time and lists EVERY controlled substance the patient fills at the pharmacy in NY. MOST doctors are VERY hesitant to write these prescriptions these days because it is so heavily monitored. Most will refer out to a pain management physician (often a neurologist) who specializes in pain management (not just drugs, but other treatments such as epidural and trigger point injections). They have patients sign contracts, they see them monthly, do monthly urine screens, etc. It's actually NOT that easy to get pain meds anymore.
but once they are on the list and addicted there are problems because now a doctor can't prescribe but no help is offered to the person - there needs to be a way to get the person in counseling or other help once there name comes up
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Re: Heroin on Long Island
Posted by NervousNell
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Posted by Summergirl
ITA with this!! I had an injury recently where I wound up in the emergency room twice and although I was in dire pain, I refused opiates. But the Drs. were actually so quick to offer them. Second dr went through the list, oxycodine, hydrocodone, etc. Looked at me like I had 10 heads when I told him I didn't want an opiate and said well your kind of out of luck as far as pain is concerned. Same thing after I gave birth. And my husband was also injured a few times in the past few years. Different emergency rooms and drs. Same scenario and question " what do you want?" Really ??? Doctors are still way too quick to prescribe opiates despite the epidemic. I know of at least three stories of people getting hooked on pain pills this way. ETA, I agree with a previous poster that this is the start of some people getting hooked on heroin. After a while , the heroin or other illegal street drugs are cheaper and easier to get then the prescriptions.
Same here. I had surgery a few yrs ago and they wanted to give me Percocet or Vicodin and I can't take those. I told the drs I get very sick on them. They still wanted me take them just break the pill in half! I refused and they said well you're going to need something for pain. So they gave me tylenol w/codeine.
Tylenol with Codeine is pretty much the same as Vicodin, fyi. Codeine is most definitely a narcotic
Right. But it's gentler on my stomach if I needed it. I prefer to stick to motrin.
I was really just saying that even though I told them I couldn't take those 2 they still wanted to push them on me.
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Re: Heroin on Long Island
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Posted by Pinkisles
The problem is prescription narcotics. Oxy, Vicodin and the like. People get addicted to them, then they can't get more prescriptions, or they can't afford it, so they turn to heroin. It's cheaper and easier to get.
The doctors and pharmacists really need to be monitored and maybe not give these prescriptions out so easily. Something does need to be done and It needs to start with these pills!
They are. In NYS there is something called the Prescription Monitoring Program. Physicians and Pharmacists alike must check the online database PRIOR to writing a narcotic (any control substance) prescription, and for pharmacists, this would be prior to dispensing the drug. The website updates in real time and lists EVERY controlled substance the patient fills at the pharmacy in NY. MOST doctors are VERY hesitant to write these prescriptions these days because it is so heavily monitored. Most will refer out to a pain management physician (often a neurologist) who specializes in pain management (not just drugs, but other treatments such as epidural and trigger point injections). They have patients sign contracts, they see them monthly, do monthly urine screens, etc. It's actually NOT that easy to get pain meds anymore.
but once they are on the list and addicted there are problems because now a doctor can't prescribe but no help is offered to the person - there needs to be a way to get the person in counseling or other help once there name comes up
A GOOD doctor would refer the patient to counseling, but anyone who knows an addict will tell you that it doesn't matter how much help you offer the person, if they don't want the help it doesn't matter. If a doctor is following the PMP guidelines, and refusing to prescribe, my guess is that they are also referring to treatment. A person, as a side note, isn't labeled an "addict" on the website, it just shows all the filled prescriptions, it's then up to the doctor/pharmacist to use their better judgement as to whether or not to prescribe.
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DS is a police officer and literally deals with an arrest having to do with Herion daily. It's definitely an eye-opener
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Re: Heroin on Long Island
Sadly, it's not just in the school districts. There are many many more grown adults walking around on heroin every single day.
And many of them now don't even inject it, they snort it. So the old telltale sign of the junkies having track marks is no longer.
One of the biggest problems is because it is so much cheaper than pills. My husband had a kidney stone a few months back, and we had no prescription coverage for that month, since I changed jobs and was waiting for my new benefits to kick in. So, the doctor gave him a prescription for Percocet. We went to the pharmacy, and for 30 pills, the charge was $180!!! For generic Percocet. The cost on them is $0.14 each!!!!! The pharmacies think that making the cost out of control will make control the supply, but it doesn't...it keeps it out of the hands of people like my DH, who actually did need it. And heroin is about $10 a day!
And regarding the NYS program to stop prescription abuse, the requirement is on the DOCTORS to check the system BEFORE prescribing. The pharmacist CAN check if they have reason to suspect something is wrong, but they are not required to check for every single prescription. Plus, not all the prescriptions get transmitted through the system properly, through no fault of the pharmacist...the system has challenges still. I know first-hand of a prescription for myself that did not appear; and I am a pharmacist myself and know that prescriptions that have been transmitted have not shown up. When we call the state about problems with the system, we get yelled at, and discouraged from calling with problems. I also have a friend who is a pharmacist who had called many doctors when she KNEW that they were "pain management" physicians who just prescribed the same junk to the junkies all day long, and she was always told that it is ok and to dispense the med. She often refused, but the sad part is that the doctors don't even balk when they are questioned. Three of the doctors who she has questioned have been arrested already within the past year!!
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Re: Heroin on Long Island
Posted by MsSissy
Posted by jessnbrian
Posted by Pinkisles
The problem is prescription narcotics. Oxy, Vicodin and the like. People get addicted to them, then they can't get more prescriptions, or they can't afford it, so they turn to heroin. It's cheaper and easier to get.
The doctors and pharmacists really need to be monitored and maybe not give these prescriptions out so easily. Something does need to be done and It needs to start with these pills!
They are. In NYS there is something called the Prescription Monitoring Program. Physicians and Pharmacists alike must check the online database PRIOR to writing a narcotic (any control substance) prescription, and for pharmacists, this would be prior to dispensing the drug. The website updates in real time and lists EVERY controlled substance the patient fills at the pharmacy in NY. MOST doctors are VERY hesitant to write these prescriptions these days because it is so heavily monitored. Most will refer out to a pain management physician (often a neurologist) who specializes in pain management (not just drugs, but other treatments such as epidural and trigger point injections). They have patients sign contracts, they see them monthly, do monthly urine screens, etc. It's actually NOT that easy to get pain meds anymore.
Just saw this in the Daily News. Upper West Side doctor and wife arrested
So let me get this straight. I have to show my license at the pharmacy desk every time I need cold medicine containing pseudoephedrine (in case I'm making meth), but this guy can write over 20,000 prescriptions for narcotics and no one is monitoring that? How ass backwards is that?
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Re: Heroin on Long Island
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I agree that it is everywhere - but I find more people like to point fingers at more economically diverse or culturally diverse towns before they will admit there's a problem in their own backyard. Everyone wants to point fingers because it sucks to really think that we live in an expensive area with exorbitant taxes and yet heroin is running rampant. But it is.
It is cheaper and easier to get, and the high is supposedly so addicting that it's incredibly easy to get hooked. I have heard of everyone from the downtrodden bullied teen to the high powered CEO succumbing to the addiction.
We absolutely need specialized drug task forces to focus on where it is coming from and how it is so easily spreading.
"Good" district or not.
I actually hear less about heroin in the diverse neighborhoods than I do in wealthier/white areas. I was thrilled when there was a massive bust a few months back near me... however it seems as though the fight has slowed. There is a town meeting next week regarding this at one of the local churches. I'm glad that our community doesn't ignore it...
I read an article recently that said that the diverse towns don't have this problem as much as the wealthier towns. Apparently, the thought is that these communities and their children have seen what drug addiction has done to the generations before them and the wealthier communities now and the ones dealing with it more. And to PP's point, the pills that are prescribed by Dr's get people addicted and since heroin is cheap that is what they resort to in the end.
I live in a middle class neighborhood that is loaded with heroine. I work in a lower class area that has even more crack and heroine addictions ( even the parents of my students) and I have heard that cocaine is often the drug of choice in upper class neighborhoods. Illegal drugs are everywhere. Can you post the link to the article, please? I think middle class neighborhoods are no worse than the lower or upper. But heroine is a very addictive and dangerous drug. We are presently raising awareness in our community.
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Re: Heroin on Long Island
People are getting heroin over anything else bc of its price. That's the only reason heroin is out of control now. They start with pills from the dr and then when dr won't give it to them anymore, they buy the pills on the street. That can be very expensive. They switch to heroin bc it's the same high for a fraction of the price. Now you can be high all day everyday and still have $ to spare.
It's not just in "rich towns". It's in every town. Teach your children to be leaders and not followers. A lot of kids start bc their friends did.
When I was growing up, I never followed the crowd. I had family members who were heroin addicts and my parents pointed out what those drugs did to you. Hid nothing from me. I KNEW I didn't want to end up like them. So when my friends were doing anything heavier then a joint or a few blues, I backed off and found better friends.
It starts at home.
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Re: Heroin on Long Island
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
People are getting heroin over anything else bc of its price. That's the only reason heroin is out of control now. They start with pills from the dr and then when dr won't give it to them anymore, they buy the pills on the street. That can be very expensive. They switch to heroin bc it's the same high for a fraction of the price. Now you can be high all day everyday and still have $ to spare.
It's not just in "rich towns". It's in every town. Teach your children to be leaders and not followers. A lot of kids start bc their friends did.
When I was growing up, I never followed the crowd. I had family members who were heroin addicts and my parents pointed out what those drugs did to you. Hid nothing from me. I KNEW I didn't want to end up like them. So when my friends were doing anything heavier then a joint or a few blues, I backed off and found better friends.
It starts at home.
Agree! I understand wanting to shelter kids but when they get to a certain age they need to understand and be aware.
The title of this post made me laugh. Heroin has been all over for years now. Some neighborhoods are better at cleaning up the mess in the park than others. The wealthier towns have the luxury of doing it at a home. My stepson goes to school in one of the best school districts in NJ and those kids in his HS do some serious drugs. They have the money for it. I feel like where I grew up, you were most likely going to drink and smoke pot when you were school age or sell the drugs. The use of coccaine and harder drugs usually came later. However, I feel like in those "great" schools, even private schools is where you will find these drugs running rampant.
I make sure to talk to my stepson about how drugs affected my like and dh and I always warn him about teenage pregnancy. We threaten that he doesn't want to struggle life his parents did. It's like the learn from our mistakes and not repeat them approach.
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